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2020-03-16 3:42:34 PM  
We certainly shouldn't have caucuses, but I'm sure there's a way to keep the primaries going.
 
2020-03-16 3:46:28 PM  
If they cancel the primaries, wouldn't they go with the present front-runner as the Democratic nominee? Think about that, Bernie?
 
2020-03-16 3:50:48 PM  
How about changing the remaining primaries to vote by mail instead?
 
2020-03-16 4:28:47 PM  

bingethinker: If they cancel the primaries, wouldn't they go with the present front-runner as the Democratic nominee? Think about that, Bernie?


Governor of Ohio: Hey we should delay the primaries due to the virus

Fark: That makes sense

Sanders: Hey we should delay the primaries due to the virus

Fark: OF COURSE he would suggest that
 
2020-03-16 5:15:59 PM  
Gargle my balls subby

Large public gatherings are not safe right now
 
2020-03-16 5:17:42 PM  
I guess that could be the case but the bottom line is that it's a good idea in light of the bigger picture.
 
2020-03-16 5:18:16 PM  

stan unusual: How about changing the remaining primaries all elections to vote by mail instead?


FTFY
 
2020-03-16 5:18:29 PM  
I'm actually quite sure he would, Subby. He's been saying the same things for 40 years whether it has benefitted him or not.
 
2020-03-16 5:18:37 PM  
Bernie: I think it would be better not to give my supporters the plague.

Fark: Can you believe how self-serving this corrupt socialist is?
 
2020-03-16 5:18:47 PM  
For the love of god, postpone the primaries.
 
2020-03-16 5:19:42 PM  
Should be state by state. If Early Voting has covered a large portion of the State's electorate, changing the date of the primary may not be necessary.
 
2020-03-16 5:19:54 PM  
Bernie, SFTU.  Don't give Trump ideas.
 
2020-03-16 5:21:13 PM  
This is so easily solved but no state will do it. Just send all registered voters an absentee ballot. Done and done.
 
2020-03-16 5:23:44 PM  
I'm inclined to believe the ONLY GUY who said that he would step down and not force a Brokered Convention if he didn't win enough flat out to be declared the winner.
 
2020-03-16 5:24:12 PM  

lilbjorn: Bernie, SFTU.  Don't give Trump ideas.


The story would have to appear on Fox.
 
2020-03-16 5:25:37 PM  
Hey WHY JUST NOT GIFT THE NOMINATION TO THE DISTINGUISHED INDEPENDENT GENTLEMAN!

Yeah, that's the ticket!
 
2020-03-16 5:25:44 PM  
Not a fan of Bernie by any means but he is right here - if the primaries go forward as scheduled a lot of people will get sick/die that could otherwise have avoided it.

I wouldn't ever support moving the national election in November, but the primaries are different, and we are early enough in this outbreak that drastic actions can have a drastic impact.
 
2020-03-16 5:27:06 PM  
Why not call for vote by mail instead of just ending democracy?
 
2020-03-16 5:29:04 PM  
Maybe Bernie should be more like old Joe:

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But yeah, let's beat up on Bernie.
 
2020-03-16 5:30:38 PM  

ginandbacon: Why not call for vote by mail instead of just ending democracy?


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2020-03-16 5:31:43 PM  

ginandbacon: Why not call for vote by mail instead of just ending democracy?


Four states, including my own, already hold all votes by mail.  It works very well, no reason we can't do it nationwide.  There are other benefits too, but I'm not going to list them all now.

Everything you could want to know about the process:
https://www.ncsl.org/research/electio​n​s-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.asp​x
 
2020-03-16 5:31:45 PM  
so, lets ditch the primaries. We could even go as far as not doing the debates in the general. Then maybe only count early votes, you know, since that one idiot upstream suggests that they likely represent your entire state.

All of that culminated in postponing the general an the election for POTUS and thats how we got Emperor Trump.
 
2020-03-16 5:35:03 PM  
Since he has no realistic pathway to victory, he should do the right thing and drop out, so the remaining primaries become unnecessary/academic.

I mean, if he's so concerned about the members of a party he steadfastly refused to join for thirty years, but thinks he should lead.
 
2020-03-16 5:35:41 PM  
Just agree to split the remaining delegates based on the current percentage split. This would actually benefit Sanders, since he's currently behind and that tends to result in a downward trend as the primary moves forward.
So this would actually leave Biden at like 1715 delegates, Bernie gets 1412 and Tulsi with her .69 percent gets her an extra 15 to her two. So she beats Amy Klobuchar and is automatically made president.
 
2020-03-16 5:36:14 PM  
They should be postponed. And states should immediately switch over to mail-in ballots by default (optional show up on voting day). We need this for the presidential election too, because sars-cov-2 could be moderated by the summer, only to come back as a much bigger wave in the fall.

Republicans hate mail-in ballots because it means more working folks can vote.
 
2020-03-16 5:37:12 PM  

Codenamechaz: bingethinker: If they cancel the primaries, wouldn't they go with the present front-runner as the Democratic nominee? Think about that, Bernie?

Governor of Ohio: Hey we should delay the primaries due to the virus

Fark: That makes sense

Sanders: Hey we should delay the primaries due to the virus

Fark: OF COURSE he would suggest that


No farking shiat.
 
2020-03-16 5:37:45 PM  
They don't have to delay the primaries completely, just make the primary elections happen over multiple days, like having people with last names starting with A-E go on one day, F-J go on the next day, K-O on the next, P-T on the next, then lastly U-Z on the fifth day. It's not a perfect solution but would help prevent the spread of this virus while preserving our elections because we can't sacrifice our democracy (especially with the malignant idiots currently in charge).
 
2020-03-16 5:38:19 PM  
The governor of Ohio might have a better argument if he hadn't waited until 18 hours before the polls open to propose shutting them down.

If anything, I'd rather see states LENGTHEN the election day to 3 or 4 days, and ask that people show up in a window based on the first letter of your last name.

A-E tomorrow,
F-K Wed
and so on.

That would cut down on crowd sizes and length of times in line.

Maybe that doesn't work, I dunno. But there are options besides postponing them. Because just when would be a good time? August? October? When?
 
2020-03-16 5:39:59 PM  

zombietheclown: I'm inclined to believe the ONLY GUY who said that he would step down and not force a Brokered Convention if he didn't win enough flat out to be declared the winner.


Bernie could end the primaries right now. He could suspend his campaign, he knows he can't make up the difference and catch up to Biden, so if he really cared about people then he would suspend his campaign now and not wait for the slaughter tomorrow.
 
2020-03-16 5:42:05 PM  

jonnyh: Maybe Bernie should be more like old Joe:

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But yeah, let's beat up on Bernie.


Bernie has no chance to win. If he really cared about the public he would suspend his campaign, but he doesn't really care just trying to drag things out to give trump more time to prepare for Joe.
 
2020-03-16 5:44:04 PM  
I hope the 70 year olds that are working the polls are wearing some serious PPE.

That's not a joke, they really should.
 
2020-03-16 5:45:13 PM  

BMFPitt: I hope the 70 year olds that are working the polls are wearing some serious PPE.

That's not a joke, they really should.


They are actually getting younger people for the polls. So the old people won't be as exposed.
 
2020-03-16 5:45:13 PM  

punkwrestler: zombietheclown: I'm inclined to believe the ONLY GUY who said that he would step down and not force a Brokered Convention if he didn't win enough flat out to be declared the winner.

Bernie could end the primaries right now. He could suspend his campaign, he knows he can't make up the difference and catch up to Biden, so if he really cared about people then he would suspend his campaign now and not wait for the slaughter tomorrow.


There are downballot races to be decided.
 
2020-03-16 5:47:25 PM  

aleister_greynight: Four states, including my own, already hold all votes by mail.


My biggest concern with vote-by-mail (and it's also a problem with fancy blockchain e-voting systems) is that the voter can use the system to prove they voted a certain way. This permits attack vectors around vote buying/voter intimidation. Sure, that's illegal, but people do illegal things all the time. (This is also why photography should be prohibited in polling places, and usually is)

punkwrestler: He could suspend his campaign, he knows he can't make up the difference and catch up to Biden


He's like a few hundred delegates behind. With a lot of unassigned delegates, he may be even closer. He's not polling well, sure, but maybe he's not polling well because people are claiming he's so far behind that he could never catch up, which is in fact, a lie.

I'll vote blue, no matter who, but Biden is going to get slaughtered by Trump in November. You have to remember: MAGAts don't vote based on policy. They vote based on anger. And Trump is the expression of their anger. Mark my words: the economic disaster and the pandemic will only strengthen their resolve. Pretty much the only way he loses is if COVID kills enough of them before then.
 
2020-03-16 5:48:34 PM  

BMFPitt: I hope the 70 year olds that are working the polls are wearing some serious PPE.

That's not a joke, they really should.


Maybe a plea should be put out to have millennials volunteer to work work at the polling pla.....

I can't do that with a straight face. Just can't.
 
2020-03-16 5:48:41 PM  
Bernie is actually a pretty consistent straight forward guy.  So yes, I'm also sure he would say the same thing if he was winning.
 
2020-03-16 5:50:03 PM  

t3knomanser: I'll vote blue, no matter who, but Biden is going to get slaughtered by Trump in November. You have to remember: MAGAts don't vote based on policy. They vote based on anger. And Trump is the expression of their anger. Mark my words: the economic disaster and the pandemic will only strengthen their resolve. Pretty much the only way he loses is if COVID kills enough of them before then.


You think there isn't anger pulling Dems to the pulls this year?
 
2020-03-16 5:50:26 PM  
If Bernie gave a shiat about this country, he'd drop out now and take the problem off the table. He has no chance of winning and all staying in does is further erode confidence in our institutions.
 
2020-03-16 5:50:34 PM  

Dafatone: punkwrestler: zombietheclown: I'm inclined to believe the ONLY GUY who said that he would step down and not force a Brokered Convention if he didn't win enough flat out to be declared the winner.

Bernie could end the primaries right now. He could suspend his campaign, he knows he can't make up the difference and catch up to Biden, so if he really cared about people then he would suspend his campaign now and not wait for the slaughter tomorrow.

There are downballot races to be decided.


There are some states that split off the presidential primary and moved it forward to try to get more pull. Those could be recombined. I don't know if any of them are left though.
 
2020-03-16 5:51:16 PM  

stan unusual: How about changing the remaining primaries to vote by mail instead?


Not to mention changing the convention to some setup that isn't in-person.
 
2020-03-16 5:52:09 PM  
He probably would. I'm not sure it would help, though, unless the postponing is just to set up a vote by mail system. It's not at all clear that large gatherings will be safe anytime soon. We could be in this mess through the November election.
 
2020-03-16 5:52:21 PM  
Oh, thank goodness. We hadn't had a two minutes hate for a while. I was starting to worry about the mods.
 
2020-03-16 5:53:08 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: You think there isn't anger pulling Dems to the pulls this year?


I don't think the Democratic party is leveraging that in the slightest, no. I think they're actively trying to tamp down the anger in their rank-and-file members to continue to position themselves as the "steady hand on the tiller", the "mature leader". Y'know, the stuff that played real good in 2016.
 
2020-03-16 5:53:37 PM  

t3knomanser: You have to remember: MAGAts don't vote based on policy. They vote based on anger. And Trump is the expression of their anger.


They're also not numerous enough for him to win with just them. They can get him to 35%, maybe.
 
2020-03-16 5:54:34 PM  

Dafatone: punkwrestler: zombietheclown: I'm inclined to believe the ONLY GUY who said that he would step down and not force a Brokered Convention if he didn't win enough flat out to be declared the winner.

Bernie could end the primaries right now. He could suspend his campaign, he knows he can't make up the difference and catch up to Biden, so if he really cared about people then he would suspend his campaign now and not wait for the slaughter tomorrow.

There are downballot races to be decided.


Those aren't usually on the same dates as the POTUS ones. A lot of states have 2 separate elections.
 
2020-03-16 5:55:46 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: BMFPitt: I hope the 70 year olds that are working the polls are wearing some serious PPE.

That's not a joke, they really should.

Maybe a plea should be put out to have millennials volunteer to work work at the polling pla.....

I can't do that with a straight face. Just can't.


They call them volunteers, but they still get paid.

There are a lot of millenns that could use an extra day's worth of work.
 
2020-03-16 5:57:09 PM  
If he actually gave a flying fark about the pandemic he would drop out. But he doesn't. He's proven that all he cares about is himself.

At this point, staying in the race is going to mean that people are gonna go to vote and contract/spread the virus. I think his conduct is despicable

DROP OUT NOW YOU farkEE
 
2020-03-16 5:57:32 PM  
It's really not a good idea to have hoards of people standing in line, sometimes for hours, in close proximity, which helps spread the coronavirus.

Because just think if today's situation, or worse, persisted until November.  At that time, people would laud the president if he postponed elections, for public safety.

I'm all for biting the bullet now, so we don't have to bite the Trump dick later.
 
2020-03-16 5:58:40 PM  

t3knomanser: aleister_greynight: Four states, including my own, already hold all votes by mail.

My biggest concern with vote-by-mail (and it's also a problem with fancy blockchain e-voting systems) is that the voter can use the system to prove they voted a certain way. This permits attack vectors around vote buying/voter intimidation. Sure, that's illegal, but people do illegal things all the time. (This is also why photography should be prohibited in polling places, and usually is)

punkwrestler: He could suspend his campaign, he knows he can't make up the difference and catch up to Biden

He's like a few hundred delegates behind. With a lot of unassigned delegates, he may be even closer. He's not polling well, sure, but maybe he's not polling well because people are claiming he's so far behind that he could never catch up, which is in fact, a lie.

I'll vote blue, no matter who, but Biden is going to get slaughtered by Trump in November. You have to remember: MAGAts don't vote based on policy. They vote based on anger. And Trump is the expression of their anger. Mark my words: the economic disaster and the pandemic will only strengthen their resolve. Pretty much the only way he loses is if COVID kills enough of them before then.


That's will also strengthen the resolve in democrats in case you haven't heard number in the democratic primary are way up and they are way up for Biden. Biden has energized people to vote for him more than Bernie has energized his shrinking base.
 
2020-03-16 5:59:25 PM  

NobleHam: They can get him to 35%, maybe.


That depends on turnout, doesn't it. Also, don't forget, Republicans will vote for anything with an R, or maybe they won't vote. No Republican is going to vote for the Democrat. MAGAts will vote. Republicans probably will. Democrats usually don't (not entirely their fault- voter suppression is real).
 
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