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2020-03-16 1:17:11 PM  
The headline is painful to read. Are you trying to make fun of her? The nurse is right.


FTA: "We got back and my muscles ached, my bones ached and my joints ached really bad," Merck said. "It felt like someone was stabbing me with an ice pick and I was like, 'I wonder if I have the flu.'"

Viral pneumonia.

Influenza virus, rhinovirus, coronavirus,... can all cause viral pneumonia.

/Had viral pneumonia in 2009 due to H1N1.
/Bedridden for 2 days.
 
2020-03-16 3:29:37 PM  
How long does covid knock you down for?
 
2020-03-16 4:03:46 PM  

Mantour: The headline is painful to read. Are you trying to make fun of her? The nurse is right.


FTA: "We got back and my muscles ached, my bones ached and my joints ached really bad," Merck said. "It felt like someone was stabbing me with an ice pick and I was like, 'I wonder if I have the flu.'"

Viral pneumonia.

Influenza virus, rhinovirus, coronavirus,... can all cause viral pneumonia.

/Had viral pneumonia in 2009 due to H1N1.
/Bedridden for 2 days.


Bacterial pneumonia likes sneaking in opportunistically, too
 
2020-03-16 4:04:22 PM  

vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?

I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me downHe drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink
He sings the songs that remind him of the good times
He sings the songs that remind him of the best times
(Oh Danny Boy, Danny Boy, Danny Boy)
 
2020-03-16 4:06:49 PM  

The_Sponge: vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me down
I get knocked down, but I get up again
You are never gonna keep me downHe drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink
He sings the songs that remind him of the good times
He sings the songs that remind him of the best times
(Oh Danny Boy, Danny Boy, Danny Boy)


I still prefer Homer's version: "I get knocked down, I get knocked down again. You're never gonna knock me out!"
 
2020-03-16 4:07:17 PM  
Well she didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.
 
2020-03-16 4:09:23 PM  
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2020-03-16 4:11:41 PM  

Mantour: The headline is painful to read. Are you trying to make fun of her? The nurse is right.


FTA: "We got back and my muscles ached, my bones ached and my joints ached really bad," Merck said. "It felt like someone was stabbing me with an ice pick and I was like, 'I wonder if I have the flu.'"

Viral pneumonia.

Influenza virus, rhinovirus, coronavirus,... can all cause viral pneumonia.

/Had viral pneumonia in 2009 due to H1N1.
/Bedridden for 2 days.


Back sometime around 2000-2004 somewhere in there Seattle had a really bad flu year.  Started in October or so and I caught it right at the beginning, asked to be let go to go home early soon as it hit me one day at work and was refused, ended up blowing up at a co-worker a few hours later, got told to take the rest of the week off then let go.  Frankly I was grateful.  I spent a week flat on my back.  Still felt like hell another week after that when I dragged my ass in for last paycheck.  By that point work was a ghost town.  I laughed...then groaned and went home and went back to bed again.
 
2020-03-16 4:20:09 PM  
Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.
 
2020-03-16 4:20:53 PM  

vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?


I think 2 weeks. I seem to recall that when you've been diagnosed with it, you're supposed to isolate for 2 weeks.
 
2020-03-16 4:21:00 PM  
Oh cool, I wonder what the top comment is on this informative Fox News article.
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2020-03-16 4:21:03 PM  

vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?


We have a saying about the flu in general...
"7 days coming, 7 days going."
 
2020-03-16 4:23:05 PM  

AeAe: vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?

I think 2 weeks. I seem to recall that when you've been diagnosed with it, you're supposed to isolate for 2 weeks.


Negative. You're supposed to isolate for two weeks if you SUSPECT you have it.

Once you have it, it's 2 negative tests separated by at least 24 hours.

/or 24 hours asymptomatic, if you can't get tested
//I've heard that people who have severe illness but recover are down for about six weeks
///milder cases range from weeks to a few days
 
2020-03-16 4:23:36 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.


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2020-03-16 4:25:44 PM  

BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Too slow. I got to post explosive diarrhea first.
 
2020-03-16 4:27:24 PM  

BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Every. Damn. Sunday.
 
2020-03-16 4:27:39 PM  

BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Mommy, why is that person sitting on a baseball bat?
 
2020-03-16 4:28:00 PM  

Peki: AeAe: vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?

I think 2 weeks. I seem to recall that when you've been diagnosed with it, you're supposed to isolate for 2 weeks.

Negative. You're supposed to isolate for two weeks if you SUSPECT you have it.

Once you have it, it's 2 negative tests separated by at least 24 hours.

/or 24 hours asymptomatic, if you can't get tested
//I've heard that people who have severe illness but recover are down for about six weeks
///milder cases range from weeks to a few days


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Good clarification, thx.
 
2020-03-16 4:28:30 PM  

BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Thanks, I knew about most of these but that one was new to me.  Is that kind of like how if you sneeze during clinical testing of a restless leg syndrome medication they have to report it?  How do they know it's not caused by something else, like a med reaction?  The other ones make a lot more sense, because this isn't the stomach flu.
 
2020-03-16 4:29:14 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

[Fark user image 425x431]

Thanks, I knew about most of these but that one was new to me.  Is that kind of like how if you sneeze during clinical testing of a restless leg syndrome medication they have to report it?  How do they know it's not caused by something else, like a med reaction?  The other ones make a lot more sense, because this isn't the stomach flu.


Yeah, nice graphic, by the way.  I needed to know what diarrhea looked like.
 
2020-03-16 4:29:37 PM  

uttertosh: BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Every. Damn. Sunday.


Gotta pace yourself
 
2020-03-16 4:33:24 PM  

BafflerMeal: uttertosh: BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Every. Damn. Sunday.

Gotta pace yourself


I sure can't make it to Wednesday like I used to. Gettin old, lol! ;)
 
2020-03-16 4:37:16 PM  
Sounds pretty much like the flu I had a couple of weeks ago, minus the nausea. Everything hurt and I was either freezing or burning up. Slept for about 2 days and have been improving ever since. Still have a bit of a coughing problem.
 
2020-03-16 4:38:26 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

[Fark user image 425x431]

Thanks, I knew about most of these but that one was new to me.  Is that kind of like how if you sneeze during clinical testing of a restless leg syndrome medication they have to report it?  How do they know it's not caused by something else, like a med reaction?  The other ones make a lot more sense, because this isn't the stomach flu.


Hard to say. It s constellation of symptoms drawn from a spreadsheet. Later days may tell us *why* but it could be just rare individual reactions. However the virus is present in multiple area of the body including the intestines. So some people may simply be more sensitive to it's presence.
 
2020-03-16 4:44:00 PM  
My understanding of Cov-19 is that it is like a very mild cold that settles into your lungs, becomes pneumonia and finshes you off without hours of diagnosis.

I've had that sort of thing all my life, as I am a "honker", a victim of life-long bronchial pneumonia. So everyday is like a day in Spring -- with a potentially fatal twist.

How I made it to 58, I do not know, but I hope to become a burden on society until I am 100 years older than that again.

I think I have a chance--it's always the feeble ones that live forever. Take Trump's mind ... please!
 
2020-03-16 4:44:29 PM  

BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

[Fark user image 425x431]

Thanks, I knew about most of these but that one was new to me.  Is that kind of like how if you sneeze during clinical testing of a restless leg syndrome medication they have to report it?  How do they know it's not caused by something else, like a med reaction?  The other ones make a lot more sense, because this isn't the stomach flu.

Hard to say. It s constellation of symptoms drawn from a spreadsheet. Later days may tell us *why* but it could be just rare individual reactions. However the virus is present in multiple area of the body including the intestines. So some people may simply be more sensitive to it's presence.


Thanks.  From Wednesday to Saturday I had this nagging fatigue I almost never get.  It almost felt like I'd slept on my pillow wrong all night.  No headache, cough, fever, sneezing, sore throat.  I did have some mild diarrhea yesterday, but hell, that could have been from the takeout pizza from the night before.  I have no idea what it was.  I know what I'm hoping it wasn't.  Maybe it was an adjustment to being stuck inside so much.  I'm normally very active.
 
2020-03-16 4:55:14 PM  
judging from the way you're all stockpiling toilet paper, i would have assumed explosive uncontrollable unending diarrhea is to be expected.
 
2020-03-16 4:59:47 PM  

thy crotch: judging from the way you're all stockpiling toilet paper, i would have assumed explosive uncontrollable unending diarrhea is to be expected.


Joke's on you, I stockpiled cat food instead.

/meow gotta eat too
 
2020-03-16 5:00:09 PM  
Don't read the comments. I mean it, don't! OK fine, go ahead. But I warned you!
 
2020-03-16 5:01:25 PM  

justanothersumguy: vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?

We have a saying about the flu in general...
"7 days coming, 7 days going."


No No No No.     2 weeks is how long you need to isolate if you have been exposed to determine if you ARE going to get sick.  If you HAVE COVID-19 you are going to be sick for one to two MONTHS before you test clear of the illness and can return to the public.
 
2020-03-16 5:07:03 PM  

dbaggins: justanothersumguy: vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?

We have a saying about the flu in general...
"7 days coming, 7 days going."

No No No No.     2 weeks is how long you need to isolate if you have been exposed to determine if you ARE going to get sick.  If you HAVE COVID-19 you are going to be sick for one to two MONTHS before you test clear of the illness and can return to the public.


IF you can get tested.

They haven't said wtf to do if you self-isolate, get sick, but can't get tested for covid-19. How long do you farking stay in your house THEN?
 
2020-03-16 5:07:05 PM  
I've had bad influenza.  Two weeks of feeling like death, bone deep pain, and being to weak to get out of bed to pee. Followed by a couple weeks of being excessively weak. I've also had pneumonia twice. I don't really feel like combining the two.
 
2020-03-16 5:14:06 PM  

majestic: Sounds pretty much like the flu I had a couple of weeks ago, minus the nausea. Everything hurt and I was either freezing or burning up. Slept for about 2 days and have been improving ever since. Still have a bit of a coughing problem.


Same for me.  Been three weeks and finally seem to have stopped coughing up that last bit of fluid.  First flu I ever had, though, where I couldn't breathe for the first day and a half.  Didn't sleep a bit because I felt like I couldn't get any oxygen.  But the doctor said it was just the flu...
 
2020-03-16 5:15:40 PM  
Remember kids, 81% of those who are infected end up with symptoms that range from those of a mild case of the flu through the symptoms of a mild case of pneumonia.

14% of cases developed pneumonia bad enough to need oxygen.

5% of cases progressed to respiratory failure and had to be put on a ventilator.

Numbers taken from NIH.

Of course, the thing to worry about is the fact that if we don't stomp down on this quick enough we don't have enough ventilators, hospital beds, or trained healthcare workers for everybody that would need them.
 
2020-03-16 5:16:27 PM  

dbaggins: No No No No. 2 weeks is how long you need to isolate if you have been exposed to determine if you ARE going to get sick. If you HAVE COVID-19 you are going to be sick for one to two MONTHS before you test clear of the illness and can return to the public.


There is definitely some conflicting info out there then.  I won't claim this is definitive either, but recent tests show you shed virus particles (but not live virii) for very long, but culturable, active virii that can infect others may end 5-8 days after symptoms appear.  Hoping this is the case.
 
2020-03-16 5:24:45 PM  
Symptoms are different for everybody. Some people never get the cough:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/health​/​coronavirus-survivor-elizabeth-schneid​er/index.html

As of February 20, 2020 and based on 55,924 laboratory confirmed cases, typical signs and symptoms include: fever (87.9%), dry cough (67.7%), fatigue (38.1%), sputum production (33.4%), shortness of breath (18.6%), sore throat (13.9%), headache (13.6%), myalgia or arthralgia (14.8%), chills (11.4%), nausea or vomiting (5.0%), nasal congestion (4.8%), diarrhoea (3.7%), and hemoptysis (0.9%), and conjunctival congestion (0.8%).
 
2020-03-16 5:36:57 PM  
ftfa: 'she tested positive for the virus after a vacation to Hawaii, where she attended a medical conference'

Oh, that's a comfort.  Not.
 
2020-03-16 5:39:50 PM  

majestic: Sounds pretty much like the flu I had a couple of weeks ago, minus the nausea. Everything hurt and I was either freezing or burning up. Slept for about 2 days and have been improving ever since. Still have a bit of a coughing problem.


Yep, you probably had Coronavirus.

Stays in your lungs for weeks after you've "recovered" and every time you cough you are still spreading it and contagious.
 
2020-03-16 5:42:27 PM  
Lisa Merck of Crusted Butt...
 
2020-03-16 5:42:49 PM  
Sooooo...it was the flu?

Like the flu that happens every winter?

With the same symptoms and outcome as the...flu?
 
2020-03-16 5:42:52 PM  
But interesting that she & hubby were in close quarters for those 3 weeks but he appears to be disease free so far
 
2020-03-16 6:18:24 PM  

chieromancer: Sooooo...it was the flu?

Like the flu that happens every winter?

With the same symptoms and outcome as the...flu?


To an extent, although possibly significantly easier to transmit due to the incubation period and ease of transmission.  And except for the fact that the flu also still exists.  And that Mr. Burns virus door picture doesn't actually work in real life.  And that anytime we get a flu variant that shows signs of spreading fast enough to lay significant portions of the workforce on their back at the same time that's also a major issue.

So....not real sure you have a fark all of a clue what you're saying...but....yes.
 
2020-03-16 6:25:43 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: chieromancer: Sooooo...it was the flu?

Like the flu that happens every winter?

With the same symptoms and outcome as the...flu?

To an extent, although possibly significantly easier to transmit due to the incubation period and ease of transmission.  And except for the fact that the flu also still exists.  And that Mr. Burns virus door picture doesn't actually work in real life.  And that anytime we get a flu variant that shows signs of spreading fast enough to lay significant portions of the workforce on their back at the same time that's also a major issue.

So....not real sure you have a fark all of a clue what you're saying...but....yes.


--
Also - and this is notable difference- its 34x more deadly and there's no vaccine.
 
2020-03-16 6:32:04 PM  

vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?


I'll let you know. (Full disclosure - no test yet. Am going to try tomorrow.) Friday, came home from work feeling a little bit generally garbagy. No fever, no cough, other than an occasional little cough I get every spring from seasonal allergies. Felt fine the next day. Monitored temp every four awake hours. No temp all weekend, still feel fine. Went to work today, after taking temp. No fever. Tiny mild sore throat of the allergy variety. Felt fine. Sore throat increased towards the afternoon. Ditched out of work at 1. No fever. No cough. Drank water and went to bed. 5pm. Fever. 101F. Headache. Broken glass throat. Severe aches and cooooooooold. Chills. I feel like satan's butthole. Ugh.

Fun and games? I'm a barista.

/in before all the good respirators are gone.
//hope it doesn't come to that
///send Guinness ginger ale
 
2020-03-16 6:34:51 PM  

namegoeshere: vudukungfu: How long does covid knock you down for?

I'll let you know. (Full disclosure - no test yet. Am going to try tomorrow.) Friday, came home from work feeling a little bit generally garbagy. No fever, no cough, other than an occasional little cough I get every spring from seasonal allergies. Felt fine the next day. Monitored temp every four awake hours. No temp all weekend, still feel fine. Went to work today, after taking temp. No fever. Tiny mild sore throat of the allergy variety. Felt fine. Sore throat increased towards the afternoon. Ditched out of work at 1. No fever. No cough. Drank water and went to bed. 5pm. Fever. 101F. Headache. Broken glass throat. Severe aches and cooooooooold. Chills. I feel like satan's butthole. Ugh.

Fun and games? I'm a barista.

/in before all the good respirators are gone.
//hope it doesn't come to that
///send Guinness ginger ale



Sorry, Wednesday was the mild yuck day. Fine until today.
 
2020-03-16 6:36:33 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: To an extent, although possibly significantly easier to transmit due to the incubation period and ease of transmission. And except for the fact that the flu also still exists. And that Mr. Burns virus door picture doesn't actually work in real life. And that anytime we get a flu variant that shows signs of spreading fast enough to lay significant portions of the workforce on their back at the same time that's also a major issue.


And we have medically effective vaccines for the flu and herd immunity from many, many flu viruses and the morbidity rate from the flu is 10-100 times lower than COVID-19.

But yeah, totally the same as the flu.

Got the flu several years ago. I'd give it no stars, would not recommend. Have gotten a flu shot every year since then.
 
2020-03-16 6:49:24 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: BafflerMeal: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: Can someone explain why she felt nausea?  Is that from the treatment?  I've never seen this a listed as a symptom.

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Thanks, I knew about most of these but that one was new to me.  Is that kind of like how if you sneeze during clinical testing of a restless leg syndrome medication they have to report it?  How do they know it's not caused by something else, like a med reaction?  The other ones make a lot more sense, because this isn't the stomach flu.


In a local interview she described some of the herbal remedies she was taking to feel better like oregano water. So I'm not convinced her nausea was because of the virus.
 
2020-03-16 7:14:37 PM  

chieromancer: Sooooo...it was the flu?

Like the flu that happens every winter?

With the same symptoms and outcome as the...flu?


It's not the flu because the flu is influenza and this is a coronavirus, but yes, it sounds like the symptoms are similarly miserable.

If you're trying to imply it's "just the flu, therefore no big deal", then I have to ask: have you ever had the flu? Not a cold or stomach virus you called the flu, but the actual flu? It's farking awful. Sure, most people get over it eventually, but they might wish for death in the meantime. It's not something to be trifled with.
 
2020-03-16 7:55:54 PM  

This text is now purple: Mantour: The headline is painful to read. Are you trying to make fun of her? The nurse is right.


FTA: "We got back and my muscles ached, my bones ached and my joints ached really bad," Merck said. "It felt like someone was stabbing me with an ice pick and I was like, 'I wonder if I have the flu.'"

Viral pneumonia.

Influenza virus, rhinovirus, coronavirus,... can all cause viral pneumonia.

/Had viral pneumonia in 2009 due to H1N1.
/Bedridden for 2 days.

Bacterial pneumonia likes sneaking in opportunistically, too


Never experienced it in my life... You?
 
2020-03-16 7:59:05 PM  

LowbrowDeluxe: Mantour: The headline is painful to read. Are you trying to make fun of her? The nurse is right.


FTA: "We got back and my muscles ached, my bones ached and my joints ached really bad," Merck said. "It felt like someone was stabbing me with an ice pick and I was like, 'I wonder if I have the flu.'"

Viral pneumonia.

Influenza virus, rhinovirus, coronavirus,... can all cause viral pneumonia.

/Had viral pneumonia in 2009 due to H1N1.
/Bedridden for 2 days.

Back sometime around 2000-2004 somewhere in there Seattle had a really bad flu year.  Started in October or so and I caught it right at the beginning, asked to be let go to go home early soon as it hit me one day at work and was refused, ended up blowing up at a co-worker a few hours later, got told to take the rest of the week off then let go.  Frankly I was grateful.  I spent a week flat on my back.  Still felt like hell another week after that when I dragged my ass in for last paycheck.  By that point work was a ghost town. I laughed...then groaned and went home and went back to bed again.


Could have been worse; could have been zombie town.
 
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