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(NYPost)   To combat price gouging, NY state now has its own prisoner-made hand sanitizer, made with 75% prison toilet alcohol   (nypost.com) divider line
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2020-03-09 1:47:16 PM  
Because when I think sanitary, I think prisons...

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2020-03-09 2:20:49 PM  
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2020-03-09 2:36:59 PM  
Hooray for slave labor!

/s
 
2020-03-09 2:37:34 PM  
That's close enough for a repost.

T: Okay everybody, give me the good news. Tell me the canary virus has flown away

Uh, sir, it hasn't flown away. Cases have doubled in the last two days and when testing capacity ramps up we're afraid the number of cases will skyrocket.

T: So we should halt the testing right?

Uh, not exactly sir. We need to test so that we can isolate infected people and halt the spread.

T: Okay, okay, fine. And you'll do that tomorrow right?

Well it's still going to take about a week to get the production of testing kits ramped up.

T: A week? No that's too long. I'll give you two days.

We'll try to speed it up sir but there's still the issue of training.

T: No, not trains. Ship them by airmail. Fast fast fast. Ship them by FedEx. Somebody buy me some FedEx stock first.

Not trains sir, training. We need people who are qualified in lab work to do the testing.

T: Hire them. Do it now. I want them working now.

It's skilled work sir. They have to work in special facilities to handle infectious material and wear special clothing. And they need other scientific training and need to be certified.

T: No that's too much. I bet Obama did that. Too many regulations. Can we make prisoners do it?

We'll look into that sir.
I hate to bring it up sir, but there's another prob ... um ... challenge sir.

T: Oh oh. Another whistle blower? Get me that black ops guy at the CIA

No sir. It's simpler than that. It's hand sanitizer.

T: Hand sanitizer? What's that? Why do I care?

It's the supply of hand sanitizer sir. We're running out.

T: So order more. Do I have to do everything. What's wrong with you.

No, I mean the nation is running out. Everybody has started using more hand sanitizer and have bought up the supply and now we have severe shortages.

T: Have you ordered some for the White House? Make sure we have a supply.

We do sir. We've diverted a large shipment. But there's still a problem for the Nation sir.
If we want to slow the spread of the virus we want to make sure people have access to hand sanitizer.

T: So make more. Honestly, do I have to do everything?

I have talked to the manufacturers sir, and they are going to scale up production but they say it will take between 6 and 12 weeks to scale up. And they are asking for a tax break to cover the costs?

T: 6 weeks? is that good?

Well it's pretty good for them sir but it means we'll have shortages and the virus may keep spreading.

T: Then tell them to scale up tomorrow. Tell them we can't wait.

It's not that simple.

T: Yes it is. Tell them I told them to. Tell them I've got Article II. Pay overtime if they have to.

Yes sir but there's an inventory problem.

T: Of course there's an inventory problem. I'm not stupid. I went to Wharton, a very very good school. Only really smart people get to go to Wharton. They ran out of the inventory of hand sanitizer so they need to make more. Tell them to make more.

Yes sir. But it's the supply chain.

T: I thought we were  talking about hand san tee zer. What do chains have to do with it.

I mean it's about the inventory of raw material they need to make more sir. They don't have it.

T: Tell them to get it from their warehouse. Please, do I have to do everything?

Again sir, it's the "Just In Time Delivery" paradigm. They don't have a large warehouse of raw materials. They have to schedule delivery from their suppliers.

T: Then tell them to do so, order it FedEx. Did somebody buy me some FedEx stock?

That's the thing sir, their suppliers don't have a inventory either. They schedule production so that they ship material right after they make them.

T: That's stupid. Why don't they keep an inventory. Why doesn't anybody keep an inventory?

It's modern business practice sir. Saves money on building warehouses, doesn't tie up cash in inventory. It's done all over the world.

T: Well it's stupid. What's it called again.

"Just in Time Delivery" sir. Deliveries are scheduled many months in advance. It's all a complex coordinated dance.

T: Well it's no good. Tell them to pay overtime and to FedEx the shipments. Get it going.

[later at a press conference]

T: And so I've ordered testing kits to be ready tomorrow. And everybody will be getting Hand SanTeezer just in time. It's a new thing. Just End Times. When you need it, we'll get it to you just in time. We coordinated this months in advance.
 
2020-03-09 2:38:26 PM  
To be fair, that shiate will kill ANYTHING.
 
2020-03-09 2:39:21 PM  
Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?
 
2020-03-09 2:39:55 PM  
Hand-crafted lovingly from our finest inmates.
 
2020-03-09 2:41:07 PM  

gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?


Because they are repaying their debt to society.
 
2020-03-09 2:46:57 PM  
ABOUT CORCRAFT

Corcraft is the "brand name" for the Division of Correctional Industries, an entity within the NYS Department of Corrections and Community Supervision. Industries uses the manufacturing of products to assist in the department's overall mission to prepare offenders for release through skill development, work ethic, respect and responsibility.

Corcraft uses a business model to guide decisions and balance costs, market prices and other demands from both the correctional system and non-DOCCS customers. Corcraft is funded through the state budgetary process in conjunction with the passing of the DOCCS agency budget. Corcraft is funded through an Internal Services fund, and the revenue received from the sale of products and services is utilized to cover the expenses associated with operating the program.

CUSTOMERS

By law, Corcraft can only sell to government agencies at the state and local levels, schools and universities, courts, fire departments, police departments and certain not-for-profits.
 
2020-03-09 2:48:57 PM  
So the state competing with private business when they can use other people's money for supplies and free labor to sell their product.

When over supply gets you a cheap product it's a bargain. When under supply increases prices, it's called price gouging.
 
2020-03-09 2:53:55 PM  
Jesus Christ people, just wash your hands with soap and water. =|
 
2020-03-09 2:55:32 PM  

gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?


You should stay safe and not get any of it. Let the sheeple fools who believe in the Democrat Hoax die from using it.
 
2020-03-09 2:57:39 PM  
Uh it's pronounced terlet.
 
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2020-03-09 3:03:34 PM  
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2020-03-09 3:04:22 PM  

Arkanaut: Hooray for slave labor!

/s


It's not slave labor when NY does it. It's free-market capitalism.
 
2020-03-09 3:04:28 PM  
CSB:My MIL somehow got her hands on a free case of prison toothpaste (it said HIGH SECURITY, came in a see-thru container and looked like a clear gel) and gave it to everyone in her family for Christmas. (she's an odd person)

I tried it, out of curiosity, and decided once and for all that I wouldn't make it on the inside.  That stuff was nasty.
 
2020-03-09 3:08:36 PM  
Those "greedy" businesses have to comply with a ton of government regulations, like OSHA, minimum wage, paid time off, taxes, etc. Do the prisons follow the same rules? I'm betting not, so don't disdainfully sniff about how you can produce it so much cheaper. Of course you can if you can ignore all the cost-adders that a business must build into their price.
 
2020-03-09 3:16:32 PM  
So, buy up prison made sanitizer, and re-sell at price gouge prices. Got it
 
2020-03-09 3:16:55 PM  
So prison moonshine is a great hand sanitizer or is hand sanitizer a key ingredient in prison moonshine?
 
2020-03-09 3:19:08 PM  

max_pooper: gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?

Because they are repaying their debt to society.


So what you are saying is that when they get out, they'll be 100% employable and not discriminated against due to their criminal history?

Because that would mean they are paying their debt to society.
 
2020-03-09 3:20:10 PM  

Harlee: gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?

You should stay safe and not get any of it. Let the sheeple fools who believe in the Democrat Hoax die from using it.


I'll just wash my hands. It does the same thing, and it's not like it involves slave labor.
 
2020-03-09 3:21:53 PM  

akya: CSB:My MIL somehow got her hands on a free case of prison toothpaste (it said HIGH SECURITY, came in a see-thru container and looked like a clear gel) and gave it to everyone in her family for Christmas. (she's an odd person)

I tried it, out of curiosity, and decided once and for all that I wouldn't make it on the inside.  That stuff was nasty.


Well, now I'm curious.  Nasty how?  Did they just not put flavor in it or did they put gross flavor in it?  (Or are you like me and think that spearmint is gross?)

This is an important question in my life now.
 
2020-03-09 3:22:39 PM  
To be fair, prison inmates are pretty experienced in crafting alcohol.
 
2020-03-09 3:33:27 PM  

MugzyBrown: So the state competing with private business when they can use other people's money for supplies and free labor to sell their product.

When over supply gets you a cheap product it's a bargain. When under supply increases prices, it's called price gouging.


Hush now and have some of my wife's homemade apple pie.

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2020-03-09 3:33:33 PM  

gar1013: Harlee: gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?

You should stay safe and not get any of it. Let the sheeple fools who believe in the Democrat Hoax die from using it.

I'll just wash my hands. It does the same thing, and it's not like it involves slave labor.


You know, you really sound concerned about that.

CONCERN!
 
2020-03-09 3:35:28 PM  

Marine1: Arkanaut: Hooray for slave labor!

/s

It's not slave labor when NY does it. It's free-market capitalism.


You also sound concerned.

CONCERN!!!!!
 
2020-03-09 3:36:20 PM  

gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?


Pay them market rate for labor while avoiding tricks like charging them for their incarceration or raising prices at the commissary.
 
2020-03-09 3:36:33 PM  
2 Wrongs ≠ 1 Right
 
2020-03-09 3:40:24 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: akya: CSB:My MIL somehow got her hands on a free case of prison toothpaste (it said HIGH SECURITY, came in a see-thru container and looked like a clear gel) and gave it to everyone in her family for Christmas. (she's an odd person)

I tried it, out of curiosity, and decided once and for all that I wouldn't make it on the inside.  That stuff was nasty.

Well, now I'm curious.  Nasty how?  Did they just not put flavor in it or did they put gross flavor in it?  (Or are you like me and think that spearmint is gross?)

This is an important question in my life now.


I guess I'm just really acclimated to the kind of toothpaste I use regularly (Crest Outlast).

There was no real flavor.  I'd say It was like brushing your teeth with a gel made out of baking soda.  My mouth didn't feel any cleaner after using it.

/Could be because I spit it out pretty quickly.
 
2020-03-09 3:44:04 PM  
People are being dumb. I saw several empty shelves over the weekend in places where sanitizer and hand wipes should be. But you know what shelves weren't empty?

The farking bar soap.

The #1 best way to combat the spread of disease is just sitting there unpurchased, and people STILL go for the lazy, less-effective crap.

Yes, hand sanitizer is great if you have no access to water, but if you do have access to water you're always far better off just washing your farking hands with good old fashioned bar soap.

Americans are going to die because they're uneducated, lazy, "convenience means everything" farks.
 
2020-03-09 3:45:47 PM  

akya: I May Be Crazy But...: akya: CSB:My MIL somehow got her hands on a free case of prison toothpaste (it said HIGH SECURITY, came in a see-thru container and looked like a clear gel) and gave it to everyone in her family for Christmas. (she's an odd person)

I tried it, out of curiosity, and decided once and for all that I wouldn't make it on the inside.  That stuff was nasty.

Well, now I'm curious.  Nasty how?  Did they just not put flavor in it or did they put gross flavor in it?  (Or are you like me and think that spearmint is gross?)

This is an important question in my life now.

I guess I'm just really acclimated to the kind of toothpaste I use regularly (Crest Outlast).

There was no real flavor.  I'd say It was like brushing your teeth with a gel made out of baking soda.  My mouth didn't feel any cleaner after using it.

/Could be because I spit it out pretty quickly.


Huh.  Interesting.  Thanks.
 
2020-03-09 3:48:19 PM  

LegacyDL: So prison moonshine is a great hand sanitizer or is hand sanitizer a key ingredient in prison moonshine?


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2020-03-09 3:54:45 PM  
So the NY gubmint is going to cash in on the craze?
 
2020-03-09 3:58:40 PM  

WilderKWight: People are being dumb. I saw several empty shelves over the weekend in places where sanitizer and hand wipes should be. But you know what shelves weren't empty?

The farking bar soap.

The #1 best way to combat the spread of disease is just sitting there unpurchased, and people STILL go for the lazy, less-effective crap.

Yes, hand sanitizer is great if you have no access to water, but if you do have access to water you're always far better off just washing your farking hands with good old fashioned bar soap.

Americans are going to die because they're uneducated, lazy, "convenience means everything" farks.


So what should be sold out are soap and bottled water.
 
2020-03-09 4:01:34 PM  

jjorsett: Those "greedy" businesses have to comply with a ton of government regulations, like OSHA, minimum wage, paid time off, taxes, etc. Do the prisons follow the same rules? I'm betting not, so don't disdainfully sniff about how you can produce it so much cheaper. Of course you can if you can ignore all the cost-adders that a business must build into their price.


Your solution to competing with prison  labor is to remove all the regulations and let businesses treat their employees like prisoners?
 
2020-03-09 4:02:43 PM  

akya: I tried it, out of curiosity, and decided once and for all that I wouldn't make it on the inside. That stuff was nasty.


They have to provide a bare minimum product. So that's the free stuff you're getting. You can buy real brand toothpaste, tp, snacks, etc at the prison commissary at stupid markups. So just make sure you have people sending you money on the outside if you end up in jail.
 
2020-03-09 4:06:40 PM  
It's made with bread and "Orange drink"
 
2020-03-09 4:22:22 PM  

WelldeadLink: WilderKWight: People are being dumb. I saw several empty shelves over the weekend in places where sanitizer and hand wipes should be. But you know what shelves weren't empty?

The farking bar soap.

The #1 best way to combat the spread of disease is just sitting there unpurchased, and people STILL go for the lazy, less-effective crap.

Yes, hand sanitizer is great if you have no access to water, but if you do have access to water you're always far better off just washing your farking hands with good old fashioned bar soap.

Americans are going to die because they're uneducated, lazy, "convenience means everything" farks.

So what should be sold out are soap and bottled water.


Leaving (of course) more hand sanitizer for the concerned people.
 
2020-03-09 4:23:41 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: jjorsett: Those "greedy" businesses have to comply with a ton of government regulations, like OSHA, minimum wage, paid time off, taxes, etc. Do the prisons follow the same rules? I'm betting not, so don't disdainfully sniff about how you can produce it so much cheaper. Of course you can if you can ignore all the cost-adders that a business must build into their price.

Your solution to competing with prison  labor is to remove all the regulations and let businesses treat their employees like prisoners?


Winna winna chicken dinna!
 
2020-03-09 4:27:26 PM  
The sudden compassionate CONCERN for prisoner rights by conservatives in this thread is truly... remarkable.

Hmmmm.......
 
2020-03-09 7:17:33 PM  

Harlee: gar1013: Harlee: gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?

You should stay safe and not get any of it. Let the sheeple fools who believe in the Democrat Hoax die from using it.

I'll just wash my hands. It does the same thing, and it's not like it involves slave labor.

You know, you really sound concerned about that.

CONCERN!


Yeah, I believe we should treat prisoners like human beings who haven't lost all of their rights - just some of them.

But go on with your edgy self.
 
2020-03-09 7:17:56 PM  

Dinjiin: gar1013: Oh yeah, totally want to buy some government sanitizer, produced using slave labor. 🙄

How about paying them market rate for their labor?

Pay them market rate for labor while avoiding tricks like charging them for their incarceration or raising prices at the commissary.


Good points.
 
2020-03-09 7:19:28 PM  

Harlee: The sudden compassionate CONCERN for prisoner rights by conservatives in this thread is truly... remarkable.

Hmmmm.......


It's only sudden to people that haven't been paying attention.

Which President signed a bipartisan prison reform bill?
 
2020-03-10 11:24:06 AM  

gar1013: Harlee: The sudden compassionate CONCERN for prisoner rights by conservatives in this thread is truly... remarkable.

Hmmmm.......

It's only sudden to people that haven't been paying attention.

Which President signed a bipartisan prison reform bill?


Which party in NY is opposed to a wage increase for prisoners?
 
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