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2020-03-05 2:59:10 PM  
Don't go to the hospital, it's full of sick people.
 
2020-03-05 6:06:01 PM  
A hospital? What is it?
 
2020-03-05 6:07:29 PM  
I'd avoid it like the plague.
 
2020-03-05 6:11:53 PM  
Meanwhile in Korea, you can stay in your car and get tested without having to go into the hospital.
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2020-03-05 6:11:57 PM  
I avoid them because I can't afford even check and a headache pill prescribed by an out-of-network doctor in my in-network hospital.
 
2020-03-05 6:12:36 PM  
Yeah if you didnt have it before, you go to the hospital, you have it for sure after that
 
2020-03-05 6:12:46 PM  
We have a truly farked system. If you get injured, they take you where the sick people are. If I get hit by a drunk driver and die from something picked up at the hospital, I want some assurance he gets prosecuted for manslaughter.
 
2020-03-05 6:13:32 PM  
Call your hospital ER.  They will ask you to come in and wait in your car.  They will then assess you at your car. If needed they will then place a mask on you and walk you into the nearest isolation room and start testing and therapy.  Do not just walk into anywhere to be seen.  Always call
First.
 
2020-03-05 6:13:58 PM  
EMT here..  Just yesterday alone during a 12hr shift I was in 6 different hospitals. That's about average for a shift. Been doing this full time for 6 years...   I've been sick twice in six years and missed three entire days of work total (ie nothing serious) and I'm exposed to everything from C-DIFF to pneumonia, VRE, Flu, VRE in the urine, (even TB once) and beyond constantly.

There is a reason health officials keep repeating to use common sense washing your hands, using sanitizer and stop being a farking dirty virus peasant.  It works
 
2020-03-05 6:15:58 PM  

pounddawg: A hospital? What is it?


It's a big building with doctors and nurses, but that's not important right now.
 
2020-03-05 6:16:30 PM  
If you think you have Coronavirus dont go to a hospital unless you're struggling to breathe.  You're just increasing the wait time and putting health care workers at risk for no reason. Stay the fark home.
 
2020-03-05 6:17:31 PM  

pounddawg: A hospital? What is it?


A place where after few days in it your lifetime savings may disappear. You better die quickly and leave something to any loved ones.
 
2020-03-05 6:20:25 PM  

wildcardjack: We have a truly farked system. If you get injured, they take you where the sick people are. If I get hit by a drunk driver and die from something picked up at the hospital, I want some assurance he gets prosecuted for manslaughter.


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2020-03-05 6:26:32 PM  

pounddawg: A hospital? What is it?


It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
 
2020-03-05 6:26:58 PM  
TLDR: go die somewhere else.
 
2020-03-05 6:27:09 PM  
"If you're experiencing those symptoms [of coronavirus] but feel like you can manage them with over-the-counter drugs from the comfort of your home, experts say that's what you should do."

They're trying to KILL US ALL
 
2020-03-05 6:27:44 PM  
"Hi I think I have Corona Virus."
"If you didn't you do now."

wildcardjack: We have a truly farked system. If you get injured, they take you where the sick people are. If I get hit by a drunk driver and die from something picked up at the hospital, I want some assurance he gets prosecuted for manslaughter.


I'm not sure about manslaughter but you have my laughter.
 
2020-03-05 6:29:07 PM  
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2020-03-05 6:30:31 PM  

styckx: EMT here..  Just yesterday alone during a 12hr shift I was in 6 different hospitals. That's about average for a shift. Been doing this full time for 6 years...   I've been sick twice in six years and missed three entire days of work total (ie nothing serious) and I'm exposed to everything from C-DIFF to pneumonia, VRE, Flu, VRE in the urine, (even TB once) and beyond constantly.

There is a reason health officials keep repeating to use common sense washing your hands, using sanitizer and stop being a farking dirty virus peasant.  It works


Something about keeping your damn dirty hands off your face.

It's a hard habit to break.
 
2020-03-05 6:38:06 PM  
Believe me, as someone who works in one, we don't want you there either, we have enough business as it is.
 
2020-03-05 6:40:51 PM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: Meanwhile in Korea, you can stay in your car and get tested without having to go into the hospital.
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I wonder what it is like to live in a country that is not run by farking clowns.
 
2020-03-05 6:42:52 PM  
I'd have to be really darn sick to go to the hospital today.
And really anytime at all.
 
2020-03-05 6:44:30 PM  
Don't want to go to the hospital, and I really don't want to go to work. I'm a pediatrician, and I'm pretty sure that in the next 3-6 months we will be inundated with moms and dads bringing their kids in to check if they have COVID-19. If they're sick the kids are probably going to have to flu. If not just colds, and maybe COVID-19. The ones that have coronavirus are going to get me sick, and since I'm over 60 I'll be at significantly greater risk than they are.

Mind you, I'm not scared, but can't say I care for the risk. I'm not looking forward to the next couple of years, which is about how long it will be before a vaccine develops. Hope I can avoid it til then.  In the meantime I expect that COVID-19 is here to stay. We will all, eventually, be exposed. In a few years it will turn into another routine childhood disease with minor consequences, and the kids will grow up immune. It will be like chickenpox used to be, easy on the kids, tougher on the adults.
 
2020-03-05 6:44:52 PM  
I have to have ultrasound done on my wrist soon (waiting for the approval) and I'm trying to tell myself that the intersection between people who are there for an ultrasound and those there because they might be sick is gonna be pretty small.

But still, as the headline says, being anywhere near a hospital these days is problematic. Part of me just wants to get sick and get it over with - I'm healthy and I can bust out a sickness like this in a couple days. But I don't want to recklessly put myself out there to catch it.
 
2020-03-05 6:45:00 PM  
stop by Wal-Mart on the way, maybe take in a movie, not rush really.
 
2020-03-05 6:46:07 PM  

Maturin: Don't want to go to the hospital, and I really don't want to go to work. I'm a pediatrician, and I'm pretty sure that in the next 3-6 months we will be inundated with moms and dads bringing their kids in to check if they have COVID-19. If they're sick the kids are probably going to have to flu. If not just colds, and maybe COVID-19. The ones that have coronavirus are going to get me sick, and since I'm over 60 I'll be at significantly greater risk than they are.

Mind you, I'm not scared, but can't say I care for the risk. I'm not looking forward to the next couple of years, which is about how long it will be before a vaccine develops. Hope I can avoid it til then.  In the meantime I expect that COVID-19 is here to stay. We will all, eventually, be exposed. In a few years it will turn into another routine childhood disease with minor consequences, and the kids will grow up immune. It will be like chickenpox used to be, easy on the kids, tougher on the adults.


What happens if you eat an apple a day?
 
2020-03-05 6:47:59 PM  
My health provider has always had a 24/7 consulting nurse phone number, where you can ask a nurse questions about whether you should come in or not and whether there are solutions you should try before coming in. Currently, my health provider's appointment-making web pages direct patients to call first when making an appointment about anything to do with respiratory health, regardless of travel history.

You should get familiar with how to call your health provider or local hospital without using 911 to determine whether or not you should attempt to come in, to go someplace else, call 911, or stay in place and have someone come to you.
 
2020-03-05 6:49:20 PM  

Maturin: Don't want to go to the hospital, and I really don't want to go to work.


You should see about signing up with a sea captain and going on a long voyage.

\ not a cruise ship
 
2020-03-05 6:51:00 PM  

Trik: Maturin: Don't want to go to the hospital, and I really don't want to go to work. I'm a pediatrician, and I'm pretty sure that in the next 3-6 months we will be inundated with moms and dads bringing their kids in to check if they have COVID-19. If they're sick the kids are probably going to have to flu. If not just colds, and maybe COVID-19. The ones that have coronavirus are going to get me sick, and since I'm over 60 I'll be at significantly greater risk than they are.

Mind you, I'm not scared, but can't say I care for the risk. I'm not looking forward to the next couple of years, which is about how long it will be before a vaccine develops. Hope I can avoid it til then.  In the meantime I expect that COVID-19 is here to stay. We will all, eventually, be exposed. In a few years it will turn into another routine childhood disease with minor consequences, and the kids will grow up immune. It will be like chickenpox used to be, easy on the kids, tougher on the adults.

What happens if you eat an apple a day?


I implode.
 
2020-03-05 6:51:59 PM  
It's really a choice of either Boulder or Las Vegas.
 
2020-03-05 6:52:51 PM  
Mrs Alt works in a major east bay area hospital. She can home last night with a pretty farked up story about how unprepared the hospital was to handle a single, as in one, possible case of this bug. They are not ready to deal with it yet, they could not directly request testing of the patient. The doctor had to request from the hospital immunologist, who had to ask for the test from the county, who claimed they had to ask the CDC, the CDC said they probably don't have it based on the symptoms described, so no test for that person even though a couple of doctors and a county health official requested it. They are treating the patient as if it is the 19 just in case.

It is a shiat show. Two high schools in SF closed today, SF mayor telling everyone to cancel group meetings and events as a few more community transmitted cases showed up today in the bay area. Had kick ass seats for the KISS concert tomorrow night at Oracle. Refunded those a little while after the misses came home from the hospital with the above story.

The good news is Trump said people can go to work if they are sick, so I am sure that won't spread this around any worse.

Good luck out there.
 
2020-03-05 6:54:14 PM  
Don't go to the hospital. From the mortality charts, old and people with preexisting conditions are most at risk, and hospitals are filled with those. Since kids seem to be immune to dying from the coronavirus, your best bet is a Chuck-E-Cheese.
 
2020-03-05 6:59:13 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Mrs Alt works in a major east bay area hospital. She can home last night with a pretty farked up story about how unprepared the hospital was to handle a single, as in one, possible case of this bug. They are not ready to deal with it yet, they could not directly request testing of the patient. The doctor had to request from the hospital immunologist, who had to ask for the test from the county, who claimed they had to ask the CDC, the CDC said they probably don't have it based on the symptoms described, so no test for that person even though a couple of doctors and a county health official requested it. They are treating the patient as if it is the 19 just in case.


This is part of the stupidity of it all. "based on the symptoms", it's not a serious infection that is likely to need intensive intervention. And that is sensible respective to treatment of that person. But then there's how you respond to an epidemic, and there you test early and often at first to see to what extent you can control the spread. The lack of testing in mild cases just ensures that it will spread quickly.
 
2020-03-05 7:00:52 PM  

wademh: Someone Else's Alt: Mrs Alt works in a major east bay area hospital. She can home last night with a pretty farked up story about how unprepared the hospital was to handle a single, as in one, possible case of this bug. They are not ready to deal with it yet, they could not directly request testing of the patient. The doctor had to request from the hospital immunologist, who had to ask for the test from the county, who claimed they had to ask the CDC, the CDC said they probably don't have it based on the symptoms described, so no test for that person even though a couple of doctors and a county health official requested it. They are treating the patient as if it is the 19 just in case.

This is part of the stupidity of it all. "based on the symptoms", it's not a serious infection that is likely to need intensive intervention. And that is sensible respective to treatment of that person. But then there's how you respond to an epidemic, and there you test early and often at first to see to what extent you can control the spread. The lack of testing in mild cases just ensures that it will spread quickly.


Yep.
 
2020-03-05 7:26:31 PM  

pounddawg: A hospital? What is it?


it's a long metal tube, with wings
 
2020-03-05 7:38:50 PM  
So I'm reading a story about the cruise ship off of San Francisco and the fact that they don't plan on testing everyone. How stupid.

As a scientist, I need data. You want to understand this thing? It's a perfect situation for testing.

Now I would first test those who have experienced flu like symptoms, but I'd also take samples from everyone aboard that ship. And for those who volunteer, I'd take some plasma samples too because beyond testing to see who is actively shedding virus, I want this perfect lab to look to see who has been exposed and has developed antibodies.

Now if nobody shows up as having COVID19 from the highest risk patients, I ditch the plan. But somebody is really dropping the ball on a great experiment.
 
2020-03-05 7:43:21 PM  

some_beer_drinker: pounddawg: A hospital? What is it?

it's a long metal tube, with wings


No that's my wifes...   Nevermind...
 
2020-03-05 7:50:50 PM  

some_beer_drinker: pounddawg: A hospital? What is it?

it's a long metal tube, with wings


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2020-03-05 8:03:37 PM  
SO this is interesting:

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The highlighted places, with the exception of the United States, all have some form of Universal Healthcare. Notice a difference in mortality rates?

The US has a higher percentage already.

In nations where people can seek a doctor's aid without going bankrupt, the mortality rates are very low. In nations where private insurance is dominant, the mortality rate is much higher.

Think about this when you vote in your Primary, motherfarkers. Sanders' plan would put us on par with countries like France, Italy, Korea, Canada, the UK, Switzerland, Japan, and even farking Kuwait in terms of people being able to seek medical attention when they suspect they may possibly be infected.

Biden's plan would still leave millions of Americans without affordable access to health care and these people will balance paying rent against seeing a doctor for what they might just be a bad cold. Everyone in that situation understands that going to a doctor is a huge financial gamble: If it's just a cold, you're still out thousands of dollars. Go to the doctor and risk homelessness, or don't go and risk death and spreading the disease?

So they don't go, hoping it's just a cold... And then they get in an elevator with you.

Is it worth having Medicare For All to you, yet?

How about if you knew the cost?

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Look at your yearly income above. Do you pay more than the M4A tax cost in deductibles and premiums? I'm betting you do.

Work it out. Do the math. Not just the monetary math, but the COVID-19 math.
 
2020-03-05 8:13:57 PM  

H31N0US: styckx: EMT here..  Just yesterday alone during a 12hr shift I was in 6 different hospitals. That's about average for a shift. Been doing this full time for 6 years...   I've been sick twice in six years and missed three entire days of work total (ie nothing serious) and I'm exposed to everything from C-DIFF to pneumonia, VRE, Flu, VRE in the urine, (even TB once) and beyond constantly.

There is a reason health officials keep repeating to use common sense washing your hands, using sanitizer and stop being a farking dirty virus peasant.  It works

Something about keeping your damn dirty hands off your face.

It's a hard habit to break
.


My hands are cleaner than they've been in decades, and their respective fingers are better at respecting boundaries (IYKWIMAITYD).
 
2020-03-05 8:16:20 PM  
Wtf is this?  Coronavirus brought to you by 3M?
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2020-03-05 8:18:54 PM  
If you are wondering what it is like to have the CDC and the federal government descend on the ground zero of a national epidemic in today's United States, right now I'm watching the local news in the Seattle area, and the families of the patients in the Kirkland resting home are complaining that the CDC isn't coming around very much and the patients are not only not quarantined, they are not even confined to their rooms and sometimes wander around the common areas.
 
2020-03-05 8:22:39 PM  
Also, they are so understaffed and overwhelmed there that one of the families was notified that their parent had died, then was later notified that their parent was fine with no symptoms and that it was some other patient that had died, they had just made a mistake because they had so much going on.
 
2020-03-05 8:33:23 PM  
IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE CORONA VIRUS

come to the hospital

and be sure of it.

 
2020-03-05 8:37:34 PM  
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if this guy comes out and tells me to start wearing a mask, I don't know....
 
2020-03-05 8:44:27 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Mrs Alt works in a major east bay area hospital. She can home last night with a pretty farked up story about how unprepared the hospital was to handle a single, as in one, possible case of this bug. They are not ready to deal with it yet, they could not directly request testing of the patient. The doctor had to request from the hospital immunologist, who had to ask for the test from the county, who claimed they had to ask the CDC, the CDC said they probably don't have it based on the symptoms described, so no test for that person even though a couple of doctors and a county health official requested it. They are treating the patient as if it is the 19 just in case.


current gf is an NP. She's freaking out as well. Her physicians group met woth the hospital infectious doc. Standing orders are cdc criteria. Flu like symptoms AND travel to china or verified exposure only. Our state has tested 7.

Also, rapid flu is unreliable and if they test positive for flu, they quit testing although a patient can easily have more than one viral strain at a time.

She's made plans for her kid to stay with family if her hospital tests positive for the duration, and so have the intensivists she works with although kids are showing resilience.
 
2020-03-05 8:54:21 PM  

WilderKWight: SO this is interesting:

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Again, you are taking advantage of the scarcity of testing for COVID19 in the US which is grossly under-estimating the number of cases to make your point. It isn't good practice to use numbers you know are bad to make an argument. Moreover, there are already many good arguments to support universal healthcare in the US. Adding a bad argument for universal healthcare isn't helping. Bad arguments never do, they only hurt.
 
2020-03-05 8:55:14 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Had kick ass seats for the KISS concert tomorrow night at Oracle. Refunded those a little while after the misses came home from the hospital with the above story


Things are getting real.
 
2020-03-05 9:00:44 PM  

H31N0US: styckx: EMT here..  Just yesterday alone during a 12hr shift I was in 6 different hospitals. That's about average for a shift. Been doing this full time for 6 years...   I've been sick twice in six years and missed three entire days of work total (ie nothing serious) and I'm exposed to everything from C-DIFF to pneumonia, VRE, Flu, VRE in the urine, (even TB once) and beyond constantly.

There is a reason health officials keep repeating to use common sense washing your hands, using sanitizer and stop being a farking dirty virus peasant.  It works

Something about keeping your damn dirty hands off your face.

It's a hard habit to break.


cut up a jalapeno a couple times a day and rub it on your hands... you'll learn not to touch your face within a week... or you'll develop a taste for jalapeno, but still have really sore eyes.
 
2020-03-05 9:02:36 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Mrs Alt works in a major east bay area hospital. She can home last night with a pretty farked up story about how unprepared the hospital was to handle a single, as in one, possible case of this bug. They are not ready to deal with it yet, they could not directly request testing of the patient. The doctor had to request from the hospital immunologist, who had to ask for the test from the county, who claimed they had to ask the CDC, the CDC said they probably don't have it based on the symptoms described, so no test for that person even though a couple of doctors and a county health official requested it. They are treating the patient as if it is the 19 just in case.

It is a shiat show. Two high schools in SF closed today, SF mayor telling everyone to cancel group meetings and events as a few more community transmitted cases showed up today in the bay area. Had kick ass seats for the KISS concert tomorrow night at Oracle. Refunded those a little while after the misses came home from the hospital with the above story.

The good news is Trump said people can go to work if they are sick, so I am sure that won't spread this around any worse.

Good luck out there.


Shiat... Hope there isn't an outbreak in SF. We had 4 members of our IT team there last week, now they're back in their respective offices. We probably had a few dozen people from other departments working that event, too. That would be a vector to instantly contaminate almost all of our entire country, save maybe the India office.
 
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