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2020-03-05 11:28:13 AM  
Because the youths don't vote.

Old people do.

Next question?
 
2020-03-05 11:47:03 AM  
Nothing weak about Donald Trump. He is, after all, 6'3" and 243 lbs. Of course he doesn't pose for photos, as that would be improper for a President, and Trump is a stickler for propriety.  But we can use Tuzar Skipper, linebacker for the Steelers who is also 6'3" and about that weight, as a good approximation for his physical strength.

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2020-03-05 12:09:07 PM  
Are millennials killing the youth vote?
 
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2020-03-05 12:14:15 PM  
Because the average life expectancy is more than 35 and older people can be bothered to vote.
 
2020-03-05 1:04:40 PM  
Time for an upper age limit for POTUS. How about 62, as in you have to be younger than 62 on your first inauguration day. That way, if you serve two terms, you're out before you hit your 70s.

Septuagenarians have ZERO business in politics. They lack the stamina, the ability to acquire new information, and the ability to make decisions rapidly. Coffin-dodgers make good mentors, writers, teachers. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 70s? Congrats, enjoy your retirement, have fun with the grandkids, keep your roses pruned and try not to let your adult diapers leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.
 
2020-03-05 1:07:13 PM  

Frank N Stein: Are millennials killing the youth vote?


I cant wait for the Atlantic article later this year:

"Want Millennials to Vote? Serve Brunch in the Voting Line."
 
2020-03-05 1:07:23 PM  
Cause you know nowadays...it's the old man
he's got all the money
and a young man
aint' got nothin' in the world these days
he got sweet fark all!
 
2020-03-05 1:08:10 PM  
The gerontocracy is a symptom of a late-stage empire but I have to admit I don't know why.
 
2020-03-05 1:09:01 PM  
There is always Tulsi.
 
2020-03-05 1:09:06 PM  
The best part is they don't have to live very long with the consequences of their decisions.
 
2020-03-05 1:09:42 PM  
Who do you think still has that top glass? Next question.
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2020-03-05 1:11:07 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Time for an upper age limit for POTUS. How about 62, as in you have to be younger than 62 on your first inauguration day. That way, if you serve two terms, you're out before you hit your 70s.

Septuagenarians have ZERO business in politics. They lack the stamina, the ability to acquire new information, and the ability to make decisions rapidly. Coffin-dodgers make good mentors, writers, teachers. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 70s? Congrats, enjoy your retirement, have fun with the grandkids, keep your roses pruned and try not to let your adult diapers leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.


You've obviously never been involved in politics at the local level.  I think it's safe to say that most towns in America would shut down and completely cease to function if old people weren't there to serve on this board or that committee.
 
2020-03-05 1:11:53 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: The gerontocracy is a symptom of a late-stage empire but I have to admit I don't know why.


Money! Young people don't have it, and they are not going to get their hands on it until they are as old as King Charles IV of England. But the voting thing is perfectly cromulent, too. All the wrong sort of people are steered gently away from the polls.

Why are Americans so apathetic? A lifetime of training and conditiioning. Why are Americans so obese? Strike that last answer and you've got the second answer.
 
2020-03-05 1:11:53 PM  
I think the leaders in Western Europe and Canada may be younger than the US because under their parliamentary system the parties choose the leader, not the voters. What needs to happen in the US is for the party leaders to put younger people in positions of leadership and power.
 
2020-03-05 1:12:28 PM  

SirMadness: Who do you think still has that top glass? Next question.
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Visual aids help so much.
 
2020-03-05 1:12:55 PM  

tinderfitles: Frank N Stein: Are millennials killing the youth vote?

I cant wait for the Atlantic article later this year:

"Want Millennials to Vote? Serve Brunch in the Voting Line."


I'm OK with that.
 
2020-03-05 1:12:58 PM  
"White people are in charge because poor black people are too lazy to vote."
 
2020-03-05 1:13:44 PM  
Wait. You think these guys run the country? LOL

Wall Street is where it is at.
 
2020-03-05 1:14:12 PM  

Persnickety: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Time for an upper age limit for POTUS. How about 62, as in you have to be younger than 62 on your first inauguration day. That way, if you serve two terms, you're out before you hit your 70s.

Septuagenarians have ZERO business in politics. They lack the stamina, the ability to acquire new information, and the ability to make decisions rapidly. Coffin-dodgers make good mentors, writers, teachers. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 70s? Congrats, enjoy your retirement, have fun with the grandkids, keep your roses pruned and try not to let your adult diapers leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.

You've obviously never been involved in politics at the local level.  I think it's safe to say that most towns in America would shut down and completely cease to function if old people weren't there to serve on this board or that committee.


IDGAF. Shutting down would be preferable to having a bunch of senile old coots "running" things.
 
2020-03-05 1:14:34 PM  
In Canada, politicians are in better shape and younger because they have to take the stairs two or more steps at a time to escape what the press calls "a scrum". American press are too polite and milquetoasts. They are positively glowing with the privilege and perks of slinging slow balls at elderly white men.
 
2020-03-05 1:15:05 PM  
Its always been this way

We still have folks from the silent generation in office. I mean people born in the f-ing 1930s are still holding office

Money is basically the answer and incumbents have all sorts of advantages
 
2020-03-05 1:15:22 PM  
Both benches are completely shallow of experienced competent youngsters.
 
2020-03-05 1:15:29 PM  
Scrum. Sports jargon. A god-awful pile on in rugby.
 
2020-03-05 1:16:22 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: tinderfitles: Frank N Stein: Are millennials killing the youth vote?

I cant wait for the Atlantic article later this year:

"Want Millennials to Vote? Serve Brunch in the Voting Line."

I'm OK with that.


Srsly.  If I had money and/or motivation, I think I'd be looking into how to start a nonprofit voter turnout brunch truck coalition right about now.
 
2020-03-05 1:19:21 PM  
we like our leaders to be at least partially fossilized and insane.
 
2020-03-05 1:19:40 PM  

HedlessChickn: Because the youths don't vote.

Old people do.

Next question?


It's like a large portion of that demographic don't have a fixed address while attending a school they were brainwashed...employably required to attend and/or time between the three or more jobs needed to afford to live or something...

Talk to me when employers are required to have paid leave on days when voting is allowed. Or better yet, talk to me after the US adopts blanket voting rights that prevent states *cough* Republics *cough* from passive aggressively rigging elections with bullshiat partisian and racist policies.

Don't you have a "Millenials are killing X" article to get your rocks off too?
 
2020-03-05 1:19:57 PM  

gameshowhost: "White people are in charge because poor black people are too lazy to vote."


"But there are well-documented cases of voter suppression and targeted--"
"TOO LAZY TO VOTE. THEIR FAULT."
 
2020-03-05 1:20:11 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Time for an upper age limit for POTUS. How about 62, as in you have to be younger than 62 on your first inauguration day. That way, if you serve two terms, you're out before you hit your 70s.

Septuagenarians have ZERO business in politics. They lack the stamina, the ability to acquire new information, and the ability to make decisions rapidly. Coffin-dodgers make good mentors, writers, teachers. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 70s? Congrats, enjoy your retirement, have fun with the grandkids, keep your roses pruned and try not to let your adult diapers leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.


Oh you and your facts on old people... but but but you just hate old people bots coming right up.

https://time.com/4457131/why-older-pe​o​ple-shouldnt-vote-and-other-ideas-unpo​pular-with-my-parents/
Why Older People Shouldn't Vote

In surveys in the U.S. and the U.K., people over 65 - compared with people under 30 - were nearly twice as likely to be against gay marriage; twice as likely to be pro-Brexit; half as likely to support legalization of marijuana; nearly five times less likely to want to spend money on education; 60% more likely to vote for Donald Trump; and nearly 50% more likely to say immigrants have a negative impact on society, despite the fact that they are being wheeled around by them.
Democrats in general will say that old people in the WH is bad but they'll still support old bastards running the democrat party like Pelosi no matter what even if she totally ignores the real democratic party, the progressive part of the party.Want to win elections and beat the GOP at their own game? Kick the old folks with zero energy and guts and put people in their 30s and 40s in.
 
2020-03-05 1:20:18 PM  
Cause money is power, and whatever money young people with ambition manage to earn goes to pay student loans.
 
2020-03-05 1:21:15 PM  
Yes, it is true. For most governments, especially on the British adversarial legalist model, the rules of press freedom are borrowed from rugby.

In Amurika, the rules of press freedom are borrowed from ball room-dancing.

So as a Canadian I will put this very politely:  BITE ME!

It's a hard but fair check into the boards. The carpenters will have to have a look at the boards after the game, but for now they will just clean the bits of wood and player off of the ice so as to not be a skating hazard in the corner.
 
2020-03-05 1:21:24 PM  
Derek Thompson can go fark himself. He's a whiney little prick with a head full of revisionist history.

It's almost as if his sole purpose is to discourage as many Americans as possible from participating.
 
2020-03-05 1:21:35 PM  
You know who else who's old who should be fired at 70? Judges.
 
2020-03-05 1:21:54 PM  

vpb: Because the average life expectancy is more than 35 and older people can be bothered to vote.


By "Can be bothered" you mean, already have the day off, aren't running between multiple jobs while trying to pick up the kids. You want more young people to vote? Make it a holiday.
 
2020-03-05 1:21:58 PM  

HedlessChickn: Because the youths don't vote.

Old people do.

Next question?


Really it's power, money, and the system. Unless there is a literal "revolution" change takes a long time because people become invested in the systems they are changing. A person runs for office, joins an agency, et al., and starts gathering power to make changes. Unfortunately the time to gather that power makes them part of the very system that needs change. Thus large scale changes are against their interest, and only small changes are made. However these changes often are successive, slowly moving in a forward, but there can be setbacks. Someone else comes in, ends up in charge, and they were vested in the older ways they might roll back to some of the older ways. Those who come in with power and an investment in the older system, they do tend to cycle out more quickly, but the effects can linger long after they leave.

That's why Greta and her acolytes ultimately won't accomplish much, because her acolytes will become part of the systems they are seeking to change. They'll make some modifications, but by the time they have any real power they'll be too invested to make changes that are too large.
 
2020-03-05 1:22:45 PM  

SFSailor: Rev. Skarekroe: tinderfitles: Frank N Stein: Are millennials killing the youth vote?

I cant wait for the Atlantic article later this year:

"Want Millennials to Vote? Serve Brunch in the Voting Line."

I'm OK with that.

Srsly.  If I had money and/or motivation, I think I'd be looking into how to start a nonprofit voter turnout brunch truck coalition right about now.


It works in Australia.
 
2020-03-05 1:22:52 PM  

Etchy333: Nothing weak about Donald Trump. He is, after all, 6'3" and 243 lbs. Of course he doesn't pose for photos, as that would be improper for a President, and Trump is a stickler for propriety.  But we can use Tuzar Skipper, linebacker for the Steelers who is also 6'3" and about that weight, as a good approximation for his physical strength.

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Tuzar has to work out to keep that physique, Trump just naturally has the body of an Adonis. As "Doc" Ronnie Jackson indicated, he eats Big Macs and his metabolism it turns into testosterone, muscle and perfect hair.
 
2020-03-05 1:24:48 PM  

colon_pow: we like our leaders to be at least partially fossilized and insane.


I can't give more than two voteys to that, so I am giving two voteys to the posters on either side as well. They have cromulent responses also, but consider it partly overflow.

March of the Morons. A Farker introduced that short story to me. Kornbluth was aided in writing by his lovely wife, IIRC. They were a two-fer writing team. Very common in the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, etc.
 
2020-03-05 1:24:53 PM  
They have a vested interest in Fark and want to see their ROI with ad dollars due to the /pol tab.
 
2020-03-05 1:25:15 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: The gerontocracy is a symptom of a late-stage empire but I have to admit I don't know why.


Really? Because old people dont adapt to change and vote for short term ideas which wrecks the future of society leading to collapse. You cant survive the future if you dont adapt fast enough to counter the emerging threats in time.

In general, old people vote for themselves, fark everybody else. They cut education. They dont understand technology or new trends. Arent progressives. Its always been true and will always be true coontil we find a way to stay young till we die).
 
2020-03-05 1:25:18 PM  
Let the bodies hit the floor.
 
2020-03-05 1:26:16 PM  
Run or Ruin ? Younger generations need to vote for change in the system .. Term limits would be a good place to start ..
 
2020-03-05 1:26:47 PM  
Sometimes when the judges are liberals or Democrats, you want them to live forever. Or at least be too old to care what the tyrant party does to them.

Go RBG! Hang in there! If there is a God, you may be the first justice to reach 200 years young!
 
2020-03-05 1:26:49 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: gameshowhost: "White people are in charge because poor black people are too lazy to vote."

"But there are well-documented cases of voter suppression and targeted--"
"TOO LAZY TO VOTE. THEIR FAULT."


yep, and

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us​/​voting-college-suppression.html?

"LOL STUPID LAZY KIDS"
 
2020-03-05 1:27:27 PM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu:

Millennials have ZERO business in politics. They lack the focus, the ability to reject false information, and the ability to make decisions with careful forethought. Employment-dodgers make good waiters, retail clerks, prostitutes, students. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 20s? Congrats, enjoy your angst, have fun with the futility, keep your fufus clean and try not to let your snotty noses leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.

Just kidding, but I wanted to point out what an ageist dickhead you are.
 
2020-03-05 1:27:39 PM  
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2020-03-05 1:28:30 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: IDGAF. Shutting down would be preferable to having a bunch of senile old coots "running" things.


Ladies and gentleman, he's gone plaid Libertarian.

I hate to tell you this, but even if you kicked out everyone past the standard federal retirement age, it wouldn't change much at all. The system itself is resistant to change, unless there is a major upheaval like war. Even then, you'll see points of resistance to change. The reason being that by the time you have the power in the system, you have become part of the system.

I guess you could advocate that newly minted college graduates get top spots at every agency with unlimited power to make changes. I don't think that's a wise idea, but you could advocate for such a thing. Don't think you'll get away with saying "take the people in the middle spots" either, because they have at least a decade invested into the system.
 
2020-03-05 1:29:17 PM  

patcarew: Prank Call of Cthulhu:

Millennials have ZERO business in politics. They lack the focus, the ability to reject false information, and the ability to make decisions with careful forethought. Employment-dodgers make good waiters, retail clerks, prostitutes, students. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 20s? Congrats, enjoy your angst, have fun with the futility, keep your fufus clean and try not to let your snotty noses leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.

Just kidding, but I wanted to point out what an ageist dickhead you are.


Isn't ageist to want a president only xx old or less?
 
2020-03-05 1:29:43 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Time for an upper age limit for POTUS. How about 62, as in you have to be younger than 62 on your first inauguration day. That way, if you serve two terms, you're out before you hit your 70s.

Septuagenarians have ZERO business in politics. They lack the stamina, the ability to acquire new information, and the ability to make decisions rapidly. Coffin-dodgers make good mentors, writers, teachers. That's it. They DO NOT need to be trying to run things. You're in your 70s? Congrats, enjoy your retirement, have fun with the grandkids, keep your roses pruned and try not to let your adult diapers leak. For everything else, you can fark right the fark off. Don't pretend you're even remotely competent to be in an important leadership role, because you aren't.


Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 86 years old
 
2020-03-05 1:29:55 PM  
There's no Leftie like an old Leftie and the real Lefties in America are all decrepit with age, more so than Sanders.

Nothing quite like an old union shiat-disturber. For example, a young Michael Moore. But he's still disturbing the shiats and stirring up the septic tanks after all these years, although now increasingly dated and irrelevant. It all helps a little, because if you don't stir up the shiats, the methane builds up explosively.
 
2020-03-05 1:30:14 PM  
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