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2020-03-03 10:31:53 AM  
This could be a 44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, which would blow your head clean off.

Or this could be a glue gun, capable of blowing your mind by opening you up to a whole new world of crafts and an essential too in adding rhinestones, beads, fringe, and distinct charm to even that ghastly purple-striped shirt you are currently wearing.

So, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?"


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2020-03-03 11:06:39 AM  
for that price, even as a single shot, it probably jams.
 
2020-03-03 11:50:56 AM  
It's a Zip gun made in a factory instead of a garage, nothing new here that didn't also make an appearance in the first world war, except its got injection moulded plastic parts.

That's $110 of hard pass.
 
2020-03-03 11:52:07 AM  

vudukungfu: for that price, even as a single shot, it probably jams.


I'll say it jams! It bedazzled my denim jacket.
 
2020-03-03 11:54:21 AM  
That looks a lot like the device I use to shoot starter pistol blanks into mole hills. When the little fsckers trigger it the blast is enough to kill them via blunt force trauma. I guess the guy who invented the thing got the idea from IEDs used in Iraq.
 
2020-03-03 11:54:50 AM  

vudukungfu: for that price, even as a single shot, it probably jams.


Yeah, I've seen plenty of home-built guns through the years, and that thing reminds me quite a bit of the old Liberator from WW2.

Made by GM's farking headlight division, accurate only if there's a gunfight in an elevator, kick like a 454 Casull, and a trigger that leaves blood blisters in the hand when fired.

A friend of mine has several. I've shot one, and a handful of rounds left me longing for the sweet soft caress of the recoil of a Colt 45.
 
2020-03-03 12:03:32 PM  
With an economy of any decent scale you could easily produce a non-shiat firearm for that price.
It doesn't have the style of a derringer or the function of anything more than being a mass produced zip gun.

I'm not seeing a point to this, unless the CIA is back in the business of arming revolutionaries.
 
2020-03-03 12:06:39 PM  
I can buy a .38 for less than half that from Paco down the street.

And it's probably been field tested.
 
2020-03-03 12:21:31 PM  

vudukungfu: for that price, even as a single shot, it probably jams.


only if you mess up twisting the barrel back on. a "jam" occurs when a bolt/and or slide cycles and something intefers with the travel...say a shell casing fails to eject and causes a "stove pipe", or their is issue with the magazine causing a double feed.  but you can't "JAM" a gun that only has one round and no moving bolt or slide.

this is just a glorified ZIP gun. the trigger action is basically like pulling the plunger on a pinball machine.

I will say that for a "good gun to use to get a better gun" its not all bad... I've been looking at picking up a "LifeCard" but the downside is the odds of a .22 or any rimfire catridge failing is much greater than a .380 or 9mm round failing in a pinch.

though the LifeCard is way easier to conceal.
 
2020-03-03 12:22:04 PM  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP-45_L​i​berator

If it's accurate, it's probably got an edge over the Liberator.

And it's less ass-ugly than a Hi-Point.
 
2020-03-03 12:23:42 PM  

vudukungfu: for that price, even as a single shot, it probably jams.


Actually, it's more akin to these:

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Matt from Demolition Ranch got one, and tried it out:

The Cheapest Gun You Can Buy!!! and why it's not horrible...
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Verdict:   It's a decent backup to your backup, or for shooting snakes or rats with "ratshot".
 
2020-03-03 12:35:21 PM  

way south: With an economy of any decent scale you could easily produce a non-shiat firearm for that price.
It doesn't have the style of a derringer or the function of anything more than being a mass produced zip gun.

I'm not seeing a point to this, unless the CIA is back in the business of arming revolutionaries.


The only purpose I can see for this would be as an assassination tool. It is small enough to hide in arm cast.
 
2020-03-03 12:40:33 PM  
A Hi Point will run you $130 or so post tax. A Heritage 22 revolver can be had for $110 post tax. This is less useful than a Leinad derringer.
 
2020-03-03 12:44:50 PM  
"...only two parts to load and fire..."

I.e.: It's a slamfire gun.
 
2020-03-03 12:47:32 PM  

thepresence: way south: With an economy of any decent scale you could easily produce a non-shiat firearm for that price.
It doesn't have the style of a derringer or the function of anything more than being a mass produced zip gun.

I'm not seeing a point to this, unless the CIA is back in the business of arming revolutionaries.

The only purpose I can see for this would be as an assassination tool. It is small enough to hide in arm cast.


It's more a niche kind of thing.

Liberators are available still, but expensive and you don't want to shoot them, especially since they have a "lifespan" of about 50 shots.   CIA "Deer Guns" are unobtanium.

You can get reproduction Liberators, but they're about what you'd pay for a Glock:
https://vintageordnance.com/t/fp-45-l​i​berator-pistol

And you probably don't want to fire them anyway.   I've fired a "homemade" replica of one, which is far more sturdily built than an original, and it's still very unpleasant to shoot.

So this is a neat little functional replica of something like that, and as a "last ditch" sort of gun, as a "backup to your backup gun", it might have some worth given it's cheap price.

I kind of like your characterization of it as an "assassination pistol", though.   So it's too small, but I'm sure something like a Glock with a 17 round magazine is too large (legally, it is too large in my state).

So can you please tell me where I might buy that "Goldilocks Gun" that isn't too big, and isn't too small, but is "just right"?
 
2020-03-03 12:52:14 PM  

WegianWarrior: "...only two parts to load and fire..."

I.e.: It's a slamfire gun.


No, it's not a slamfire gun.  It's got a proper striker that is activate by a trigger (though not a "normal" trigger mechanism).
 
2020-03-03 12:53:37 PM  

thepresence: way south: With an economy of any decent scale you could easily produce a non-shiat firearm for that price.
It doesn't have the style of a derringer or the function of anything more than being a mass produced zip gun.

I'm not seeing a point to this, unless the CIA is back in the business of arming revolutionaries.

The only purpose I can see for this would be as an assassination tool. It is small enough to hide in arm cast.


Just like the Liberator. Contact range, kill an armed opponent, steal their (presumably good) weapon.
 
2020-03-03 12:54:10 PM  
It costs more, but a G48 suits my needs more. The cost per bullet you can shoot is about the same.
 
2020-03-03 1:04:51 PM  

Stratohead: "good gun to use to get a better gun"


that would be MasterCard
 
2020-03-03 1:06:42 PM  
The most amusing thing about the Liberator is that it, from what can be deduced from archival records, it was never really used as it was intended. After they made them, they tried to ship them over to the UK before sending them into Europe, and the logistics people pointed out that the gargantuan number of train cars and ship space needed to transport them would be more productively used shipping literally anything else.

Most were simply destroyed or thrown in the sea. Of those that did see use, the overwhelmingly vast majority were used in SE asia by local police forces (after all the japanese/colonial weapons were confiscated) to keep order before they could get more functional weapons.

Guns like this have always been gimmicks on any commercial scale.
 
2020-03-03 1:13:36 PM  

vudukungfu: Stratohead: "good gun to use to get a better gun"

that would be MasterCard


the paraphrase is from the OSS/SOE in WW2 regarding the intent of the Liberator.

catch a Nazi off guard, use your 1 round to take shoot them in the head, take their rifle.
 
2020-03-03 1:19:39 PM  

thepresence: way south: With an economy of any decent scale you could easily produce a non-shiat firearm for that price.
It doesn't have the style of a derringer or the function of anything more than being a mass produced zip gun.

I'm not seeing a point to this, unless the CIA is back in the business of arming revolutionaries.

The only purpose I can see for this would be as an assassination tool. It is small enough to hide in arm cast.


The trope for single shot weapons like this in wartime was using it to steal a better gun from the enemy.
Which assumes you can find an unwitting soldier and pop them from behind to take their gear without anyone noticing.  As a hidden firearm it's kinda big and doesn't do anything a pocket pistol couldn't do much better.

For an assassin's gun I'd think something like a welrod would be in order. Larger, but quiet enough that you can get away with the task.

I don't think the problem is sneaking a gun within range of a target so much as getting away with more than one hit.  If you're going to die anyway, you might well use a hand grenade.
 
2020-03-03 1:24:14 PM  

way south: thepresence: way south: With an economy of any decent scale you could easily produce a non-shiat firearm for that price.
It doesn't have the style of a derringer or the function of anything more than being a mass produced zip gun.

I'm not seeing a point to this, unless the CIA is back in the business of arming revolutionaries.

The only purpose I can see for this would be as an assassination tool. It is small enough to hide in arm cast.

The trope for single shot weapons like this in wartime was using it to steal a better gun from the enemy.
Which assumes you can find an unwitting soldier and pop them from behind to take their gear without anyone noticing.  As a hidden firearm it's kinda big and doesn't do anything a pocket pistol couldn't do much better.

For an assassin's gun I'd think something like a welrod would be in order. Larger, but quiet enough that you can get away with the task.

I don't think the problem is sneaking a gun within range of a target so much as getting away with more than one hit.  If you're going to die anyway, you might well use a hand grenade.


if only most grunts were young under-sexed and constantly horny.... if they were you could have women use that as a pre-text for getting in close enough to pull a head shot with a single round gun.

OH WAIT...

anyways...I think historically speaking, partisans and resistance fighters had more luck with some kind of Obrez than with the Liberator.
 
2020-03-03 1:33:31 PM  
A gun thread that's not full of shrieking pricks on both sides?  What is happening to my website!?
 
2020-03-03 1:47:27 PM  

Stratohead: if only most grunts were young under-sexed and constantly horny.... if they were you could have women use that as a pre-text for getting in close enough to pull a head shot with a single round gun.

OH WAIT...

anyways...I think historically speaking, partisans and resistance fighters had more luck with some kind of Obrez than with the Liberator.


Let me introduce you to 14-year old Freddie Oversteegen, who would lure Nazi soldiers into the woods and shoot them.

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2020-03-03 1:55:57 PM  
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2020-03-03 2:05:15 PM  

Stone Meadow: Stratohead: if only most grunts were young under-sexed and constantly horny.... if they were you could have women use that as a pre-text for getting in close enough to pull a head shot with a single round gun.

OH WAIT...

anyways...I think historically speaking, partisans and resistance fighters had more luck with some kind of Obrez than with the Liberator.

Let me introduce you to 14-year old Freddie Oversteegen,

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who would lure Nazi soldiers into the woods and shoot them.


okay then... Chris Hansen signal recalled.
 
2020-03-03 2:10:45 PM  

Stratohead: vudukungfu: Stratohead: "good gun to use to get a better gun"

that would be MasterCard

the paraphrase is from the OSS/SOE in WW2 regarding the intent of the Liberator.

catch a Nazi off guard, use your 1 round to take shoot them in the head, take their rifle.


oh. gee golly.
I did not know that, having read every book seen every movie and interviewed survivors of WWII all my life.

Wanna catch a Nazi off guard?
Vote them out of office in America!
 
2020-03-03 2:11:04 PM  

KidKorporate: A gun thread that's not full of shrieking pricks on both sides?  What is happening to my website!?


They are a curse upon this forum.
 
2020-03-03 2:34:24 PM  

zbtop: The most amusing thing about the Liberator is that it, from what can be deduced from archival records, it was never really used as it was intended. After they made them, they tried to ship them over to the UK before sending them into Europe, and the logistics people pointed out that the gargantuan number of train cars and ship space needed to transport them would be more productively used shipping literally anything else.


My understanding is that the Liberator was part of a plan to push into occupied France with help behind enemy lines. By that time the serious offense was on and the plan was abandoned as unnecessary since the war was turning.
 
2020-03-03 2:51:18 PM  
With all the reliable smallish or pocket size polymer hand guns, I really don't get gun companies trying to wheel out the next modern day version of the Liberator.  We're talking about handguns with 6 + round capacity in various calibers.

And if cost is a factor, there are plenty of pistols you can get second hand for under 200 bucks.
 
2020-03-03 3:18:10 PM  

way south: For an assassin's gun I'd think something like a welrod would be in order. Larger, but quiet enough that you can get away with the task.


Something like the Liberator is just as quiet, if used at contact range (ie., muzzle firmly against clothing/flesh).

And of course, it would be a nothingburger to make a simple suppressor to put on this thing.

Wouldn't even have to be very efficient because it's a very short barrel and the inherently slow reload rate means there is plenty of time to recover.  Use a heavy, subsonic bullet, and Robert is your parental male sibling.
 
2020-03-03 3:28:20 PM  

vudukungfu: for that price, even as a single shot, it probably jams.


It can't. I mean, it's literally impossible for it to jam.

The barrel and firing chamber are a single piece of stainless steel, and the breech has nothing but a slot to hold the round and a hole for the firing pin. If you don't seat the round properly it's not only impossible for it to fire, but it looks as if it's also impossible to reattach the barrel. There's no ejector, so if it misfired or the brass tore open the worst case would be you'd have to tug a bit to remove the barrel.

If you really want to be stupid I suppose you could seat the round properly in the breech and then fire it without reattaching the barrel. I'm not an expert but I suspect that would likely blow the brass open and spin the slug off at some random angle. Maybe you'd get some shrapnel in your hand.
 
2020-03-03 3:45:48 PM  

Sensei Can You See: If you really want to be stupid I suppose you could seat the round properly in the breech and then fire it without reattaching the barrel. I'm not an expert but I suspect that would likely blow the brass open and spin the slug off at some random angle. Maybe you'd get some shrapnel in your hand.


That's pretty much what will happen.   Matt has already tried that:

The Cheapest Gun You Can Buy!!! and why it's not horrible...
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He clamps it to a mount and fires it remotely with a string.
 
2020-03-03 3:57:52 PM  
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I'm just trying to figure out how you'd fit one of these in a pocket.
 
2020-03-03 4:02:26 PM  

Gleeman: [external-content.duckduckgo.com image 850x592]

I'm just trying to figure out how you'd fit one of these in a pocket.


I found out that when I googled Liberator there is a sex chair/bed with the same name.
 
2020-03-03 4:24:24 PM  

knbwhite: Gleeman: [external-content.duckduckgo.com image 850x592]

I'm just trying to figure out how you'd fit one of these in a pocket.

I found out that when I googled Liberator there is a sex chair/bed with the same name.


Hopefully you can get off a second time with the chair/bed, because the gun you won't.
 
2020-03-03 5:11:22 PM  
 
2020-03-03 5:39:47 PM  

Stone Meadow: Stratohead: if only most grunts were young under-sexed and constantly horny.... if they were you could have women use that as a pre-text for getting in close enough to pull a head shot with a single round gun.

OH WAIT...

anyways...I think historically speaking, partisans and resistance fighters had more luck with some kind of Obrez than with the Liberator.

Let me introduce you to 14-year old Freddie Oversteegen, who would lure Nazi soldiers into the woods and shoot them.

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Her older sister Truus did that as well.

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2020-03-04 12:01:41 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Stone Meadow: Stratohead: if only most grunts were young under-sexed and constantly horny.... if they were you could have women use that as a pre-text for getting in close enough to pull a head shot with a single round gun.

OH WAIT...

anyways...I think historically speaking, partisans and resistance fighters had more luck with some kind of Obrez than with the Liberator.

Let me introduce you to 14-year old Freddie Oversteegen, who would lure Nazi soldiers into the woods and shoot them.

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Her older sister Truus did that as well.

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With a Canadian Mk.II, I have a feeling she was doing a lot more than only just quietly luring random guys into the woods. Betting a lot of Nazi shiat blew up with her around.
 
2020-03-04 1:39:23 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Stone Meadow: Stratohead: if only most grunts were young under-sexed and constantly horny.... if they were you could have women use that as a pre-text for getting in close enough to pull a head shot with a single round gun.

OH WAIT...

anyways...I think historically speaking, partisans and resistance fighters had more luck with some kind of Obrez than with the Liberator.

Let me introduce you to 14-year old Freddie Oversteegen, who would lure Nazi soldiers into the woods and shoot them.

[Fark user image 850x638]

Her older sister Truus did that as well.

[Fark user image 660x1009]


Yep, and Freddie and Truss' friend Hannie Schaft, who paid the last full measure when she was shot by Dutch Nazis just three weeks before the end of the war. If you are dismayed by recent political events in the US read her Wiki page to regain your faith in humanity.

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