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2020-02-18 3:56:47 PM  
Yep, there are a lot of concerned citizens out there.
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2020-02-18 5:10:06 PM  
It's almost like the party elite are out of touch.
 
2020-02-18 8:29:14 PM  

Alunan: Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.


The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he mean billion but that makes even less sense somehow.


Now that there is a Bernie thread have the stars aligned for someone to explain this to me? Is this Kosher with your Murkanen?
 
2020-02-18 8:29:26 PM  
METAMUCIL FOR ALL!
 
2020-02-18 8:31:25 PM  
Now I got the shiats.  Thanks Obama Bernie.
 
2020-02-18 8:31:26 PM  
Reposted with link:

Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.

The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he meant billion but that makes even less sense somehow.
 
2020-02-18 8:31:32 PM  
inb4 people complaining that bernie won't draw enough swing voters and therefore if bernie wins trump is president for life

// swing voters are a myth, the Republican Party figured this out years ago
 
2020-02-18 8:31:42 PM  
Government mandated prophylactic laxatives?  Ya i wouldnt put it past Sanders
 
2020-02-18 8:32:40 PM  
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2020-02-18 8:34:30 PM  
I got regular with The Bern!
I start every day the socialist way
My system- it feels so great
I wanna feel that Bern all over the place!
 
2020-02-18 8:36:10 PM  

ClicheRinpoche: I got regular with The Bern!
I start every day the socialist way
My system- it feels so great
I wanna feel that Bern all over the place!


Socialism is Bernie's secret. I figured him for a prunes and Sanka kind of guy.
 
2020-02-18 8:36:33 PM  
Bernie is divisive in the same way that Obama created racial tension.
 
2020-02-18 8:37:55 PM  

Alunan: Reposted with link:

Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.

The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he meant billion but that makes even less sense somehow.


Look, people pay thousands per year for health care and health insurance. Then there are deductibles and out of pocket costs. Those will disappear under his plan. He will raise taxes, but the raise in taxes will be less than people pay for healthcare. This will also allow people to not be beholden to their employers to keep their health insurance which is a big deal.
 
2020-02-18 8:38:50 PM  

Alunan: Alunan: Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.


The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he mean billion but that makes even less sense somehow.

Now that there is a Bernie thread have the stars aligned for someone to explain this to me? Is this Kosher with your Murkanen?


Medicare for All: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Youtube 7Z2XRg3dy9k
 
2020-02-18 8:38:53 PM  
Well, I vowed after Bush II that I would never vote for a Republican. Your move, DNC, push a Republican in to save yourself from the socialist and lose all the anti-Republican voters.
 
2020-02-18 8:42:47 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: Well, I vowed after Bush II that I would never vote for a Republican. Your move, DNC, push a Republican in to save yourself from the socialist and lose all the anti-Republican voters.


Vote third party. That'll show us all!
 
2020-02-18 8:43:05 PM  
Pretty sure that repeatedly referring to him in the possessive as Bernie Sander's is the new Democrat Party.
 
2020-02-18 8:43:12 PM  

zero7717: inb4 people complaining that bernie won't draw enough swing voters and therefore if bernie wins trump is president for life

// swing voters are a myth, the Republican Party figured this out years ago


Let's hope McDonald's, Coke, and the proud manufacturers of Adderall make his life as short as possible then...
 
2020-02-18 8:43:21 PM  
Oh, is Bernie going to be the nominee? Well, that's fine. I'd have preferred Warren, but I'll vote for him in November.
 
2020-02-18 8:44:05 PM  
I'm not worried about Bernie so much, I'm worried about his followers.
 
2020-02-18 8:44:51 PM  
I could use a regular presidency
 
2020-02-18 8:46:34 PM  

red230: Alunan: Reposted with link:

Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.

The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he meant billion but that makes even less sense somehow.

Look, people pay thousands per year for health care and health insurance. Then there are deductibles and out of pocket costs. Those will disappear under his plan. He will raise taxes, but the raise in taxes will be less than people pay for healthcare. This will also allow people to not be beholden to their employers to keep their health insurance which is a big deal.


Okay but his websites have no numbers and a link to this document. Is there something more substantial I can take a look at? To see what he is projecting to be federal outlays, his tax proposals? Something I can use to compare to my current healthcare expenditures?
 
2020-02-18 8:46:37 PM  
Regular Democrats Just Aren't Worried About Bernie


Define, "regular Democrat." FTA: "Among ordinary Democrats..." AAARGH, I hate the phrase, "ordinary Americans," or "ordinary voters," or pretty much any group described as "ordinary."

I'm no "elite Democrat" so that must make me a "regular Democrat." Bernie worries me and I dislike him. So there.
 
2020-02-18 8:47:07 PM  
One of the more interesting thing about being a "plugged-in" political junkie is seeing how many of your fellow junkies have no idea that 95% of people don't give a shiat about politics beyond a very shallow, surface level.

Most average Democrat voters aren't or are barely aware that there is this big vote for the party. They're mostly fine with most of the candidates, and seem to be most fine with Bernie.

Polls like this must just chill the hearts of the establishment Dems.
 
2020-02-18 8:47:13 PM  

Millennium: I'm not worried about Bernie so much, I'm worried about his followers.


Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Oh, is Bernie going to be the nominee? Well, that's fine. I'd have preferred Warren, but I'll vote for him in November.


HOW ABOUT BOTH??  Of course he'll probably digress and pick a moderate, Buttegieg or Klo-bo as VP
 
2020-02-18 8:47:37 PM  

laxspanker13: Alunan: Alunan: Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.


The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he mean billion but that makes even less sense somehow.

Now that there is a Bernie thread have the stars aligned for someone to explain this to me? Is this Kosher with your Murkanen?

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That's why I am here asking questions, if someone could point me to his numbers and his plan I would appreciate it.
 
2020-02-18 8:47:42 PM  
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2020-02-18 8:48:29 PM  
Bernie might keep you regular, but Trump will make you constipated.

/didn't read the story
// to steal from Hitchens, if Trump was given an enema, you'd be able to bury him in a matchbox.
 
2020-02-18 8:48:39 PM  

Badmoodman: Regular Democrats Just Aren't Worried About Bernie


Define, "regular Democrat." FTA: "Among ordinary Democrats..." AAARGH, I hate the phrase, "ordinary Americans," or "ordinary voters," or pretty much any group described as "ordinary."

I'm no "elite Democrat" so that must make me a "regular Democrat." Bernie worries me and I dislike him. So there.


You're here posting about politics which means that you are, almost by definition, a weirdo.

They're talking about the overwhelming majority of people who vote in the primaries and general election who just don't obsess about politics. They're mostly comfortable with Bernie.
 
2020-02-18 8:49:06 PM  

laxspanker13: Millennium: I'm not worried about Bernie so much, I'm worried about his followers.

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Oh, is Bernie going to be the nominee? Well, that's fine. I'd have preferred Warren, but I'll vote for him in November.

HOW ABOUT BOTH??  Of course he'll probably digress and pick a moderate, Buttegieg or Klo-bo as VP


That's fine. I'll vote for that ticket. Which one? Oh either one. All good.
 
2020-02-18 8:49:43 PM  

eiger: Most average Democrat voters aren't or are barely aware that there is this big vote fight for the future of the party. They're mostly fine with most of the candidates, and seem to be most fine with Bernie.


I really farked that up.
 
2020-02-18 8:51:17 PM  

Millennium: I'm not worried about Bernie so much, I'm worried about his followers.


All that shiat about his followers is just that...shiat.


AlgaeRancher: I could use a regular presidency


After that lunatic we have now?
FSM knows we deserve it.
 
2020-02-18 8:52:27 PM  
Bernie doesn't worry me at all. He seems like a good guy. I don't really think there would be much of a difference between say a Sanders administration or a Biden administration considering congress will most likely be in the way regardless. That being said, I think Bernie has the best chance of any of the candidates at actually defeating trump. That's my number one issue.
 
2020-02-18 8:52:32 PM  

red230: Yep, there are a lot of concerned citizens out there.
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"Nobody likes him"
 
2020-02-18 8:55:12 PM  

Alunan: laxspanker13: Alunan: Alunan: Okay I am reading this from Bernie's Sander's website and I am trying to understand:

Health care is fundamentally different. If the status quo stays in place, between 2022 and 2031 the federal government will spend $59.65 trillion. According to estimates from the conservative Mercatus Center, under the Senate's Medicare for All legislation, those expenditures will drop by approximately $2 trillion.


The Federal government is spending $250 billion a year on healthcare with the status quo. I really don't understand how if nothing changes the federal government will spend 5x the current total annual budget of the United States on healthcare each year starting in 2022. I though maybe he mean billion but that makes even less sense somehow.

Now that there is a Bernie thread have the stars aligned for someone to explain this to me? Is this Kosher with your Murkanen?

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That's why I am here asking questions, if someone could point me to his numbers and his plan I would appreciate it.


https://www.politifact.com/personalit​i​es/john-oliver/
 
2020-02-18 8:56:46 PM  

LovesToSpooge: [Fark user image image 283x178]


FINALLY, a message I can get behind!
 
2020-02-18 8:56:52 PM  
Alunan:

Now that there is a Bernie thread have the stars aligned for someone to explain this to me? Is this Kosher with your Murkanen?

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2020-02-18 8:56:53 PM  
hooray, let's unify the country with a guy too radical to join a political party

people are farking stupid.  this is just left-wing 'stigginit'

vote for any of the viable dems, not this clown
 
2020-02-18 8:57:13 PM  

eiger: One of the more interesting thing about being a "plugged-in" political junkie is seeing how many of your fellow junkies have no idea that 95% of people don't give a shiat about politics beyond a very shallow, surface level.

Most average Democrat voters aren't or are barely aware that there is this big vote for the party. They're mostly fine with most of the candidates, and seem to be most fine with Bernie.

Polls like this must just chill the hearts of the establishment Dems.


At some point, if Bernie wants to win, he's gonna need those establishment dems. That will be an interesting turn of events.
 
2020-02-18 8:57:47 PM  
I am serious guys, where are the numbers, I want to know. I am not here bashing Bernie's plan, I just want someone to ballpark how much it's going to cost and how much it's going to save, and why Bernie thinks the Federal government will spend $5 trillion on healthcare in 2022 under the current system.
 
2020-02-18 8:59:24 PM  

MaliFinn: hooray, let's unify the country with a guy too radical to join a political party

people are farking stupid.  this is just left-wing 'stigginit'

vote for any of the viable dems, not this clown


Lol I'm not sure if your post is unintentionally funny but I have you the vote anyway.
 
2020-02-18 8:59:59 PM  
FTFA Q: So why all the talk of civil war?

A: Russian bots.
B: Alt-right lulz
C: GOP shiat stirring
D: All of the above

Some Sanders supporters are indeed assholes, but I've never met any of them IRL.

Plenty around here though.
 
2020-02-18 9:01:12 PM  

disco ball: eiger: One of the more interesting thing about being a "plugged-in" political junkie is seeing how many of your fellow junkies have no idea that 95% of people don't give a shiat about politics beyond a very shallow, surface level.

Most average Democrat voters aren't or are barely aware that there is this big vote for the party. They're mostly fine with most of the candidates, and seem to be most fine with Bernie.

Polls like this must just chill the hearts of the establishment Dems.

At some point, if Bernie wants to win, he's gonna need those establishment dems. That will be an interesting turn of events.


They'll vote for whoever the nominee is.  Or, they're traitors.
 
2020-02-18 9:01:44 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: MaliFinn: hooray, let's unify the country with a guy too radical to join a political party

people are farking stupid.  this is just left-wing 'stigginit'

vote for any of the viable dems, not this clown

Lol I'm not sure if your post is unintentionally funny but I have you the vote anyway.


idgaf, laugh away.  Bernie had more nice things to say about Russia than the Democratic Party but wants their nomination anyway.

fark --------------------------------------​---->>> all the way off
 
2020-02-18 9:02:00 PM  

Alunan: I am serious guys, where are the numbers, I want to know. I am not here bashing Bernie's plan, I just want someone to ballpark how much it's going to cost and how much it's going to save, and why Bernie thinks the Federal government will spend $5 trillion on healthcare in 2022 under the current system.


He doesn't have a farking clue what it's going to cost. I think it was Savannah Guthrie (?) asked him straight up and he had no answer.
 
2020-02-18 9:02:01 PM  

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I think I took some extra this morning. Too much curry the night before. Sorry.
 
2020-02-18 9:02:46 PM  

MaliFinn: hooray, let's unify the country with a guy too radical to join a political party

people are farking stupid.  this is just left-wing 'stigginit'

vote for any of the viable dems, not this clown



Bernie tends to rate highly in "would you rather vote for this particular democrat, or Trump"-type polls.
 
2020-02-18 9:03:48 PM  

IRestoreFurniture: disco ball: eiger: One of the more interesting thing about being a "plugged-in" political junkie is seeing how many of your fellow junkies have no idea that 95% of people don't give a shiat about politics beyond a very shallow, surface level.

Most average Democrat voters aren't or are barely aware that there is this big vote for the party. They're mostly fine with most of the candidates, and seem to be most fine with Bernie.

Polls like this must just chill the hearts of the establishment Dems.

At some point, if Bernie wants to win, he's gonna need those establishment dems. That will be an interesting turn of events.

They'll vote for whoever the nominee is.  Or, they're traitors.


Up against the wall then? That's a great way to win people over.
 
2020-02-18 9:04:02 PM  

disco ball: Alunan: I am serious guys, where are the numbers, I want to know. I am not here bashing Bernie's plan, I just want someone to ballpark how much it's going to cost and how much it's going to save, and why Bernie thinks the Federal government will spend $5 trillion on healthcare in 2022 under the current system.

He doesn't have a farking clue what it's going to cost. I think it was Savannah Guthrie (?) asked him straight up and he had no answer.


Well, Americans spent $3.5T on healthcare in 2018, so add inflation and an aging population to get $5T four years later.
 
2020-02-18 9:04:17 PM  

Badmoodman: Regular Democrats Just Aren't Worried About Bernie


Define, "regular Democrat." FTA: "Among ordinary Democrats..." AAARGH, I hate the phrase, "ordinary Americans," or "ordinary voters," or pretty much any group described as "ordinary."

I'm no "elite Democrat" so that must make me a "regular Democrat." Bernie worries me and I dislike him. So there.


Are Delegates "Super"? Or just regular strength?
 
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