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(AP News)   Trump's fight against corruption now includes Homeland Security waiving all contracting laws for border wall   (apnews.com) divider line
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2020-02-18 8:08:48 AM  
Trump administration says hey don't worry because the $6.1 billion in contracts to be awarded will only go to companies that they've already vetted.  And if there's anything the Trump admin will be infamous for, it's their "extreme vetting" for trustworthy employee and contractor hires.

[This is the first time waivers are applied to federal procurement rules:]
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2020-02-18 8:13:03 AM  
Government contracting rules are kinda stupid, however... this is much dumber.
 
2020-02-18 8:24:43 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Government contracting rules are kinda stupid, however... this is much dumber.


They're stupid because the process was abused time and time again, and each time an abuse was found someone said "there auguta he a law" and so a rule was made to plug it.  The process got really cumbersome but much more equitable.  Now we're going to slip back to the days of back room deals because of expediency over a solution in search of a problem.
 
2020-02-18 8:29:48 AM  

enry: NewportBarGuy: Government contracting rules are kinda stupid, however... this is much dumber.

They're stupid because the process was abused time and time again, and each time an abuse was found someone said "there auguta he a law" and so a rule was made to plug it.  The process got really cumbersome but much more equitable.  Now we're going to slip back to the days of back room deals because of expediency over a solution in search of a problem.


Oh, it's absolutely the way. Happens with regulations, unions, all kinds of things we need but wind up getting corrupted and perverted because the nature of human beings seems to be to find that loophole somewhere to get something for ourselves or to make it "easier" to do...

I sat here for 3 years trying to get our emergency drug cache re-stocked after a failure in the cooling system destroyed $3million in drugs. They f*cked it up 8 ways from Sunday trying to fix it with this contract and that contract. In the end, we have a great stockpile ready to go, but watching the sausage get made was the most frustrating and maddening experience ever.
 
2020-02-18 8:31:27 AM  
This will end exactly as everyone expects.
 
2020-02-18 8:36:47 AM  
Trump is just streamlining the process.

Now instead of all the cumbersome application, competitive bidding, environmental Impact statements, yada yada yada, all the contractor has to do is show proof that the bribe went through to one of Trump's shell companies.
 
2020-02-18 8:47:39 AM  

DrKillPatient: This will end exactly as everyone expects.


It's going to fall over again?

It's going to fall over again.
 
2020-02-18 8:49:07 AM  
Did they award the contract to that guy from Montana that got the Puerto Rico rebuilding contract?  I hear he's looking for work...
 
2020-02-18 8:53:21 AM  
Boondoggle gone to plaid.
 
2020-02-18 8:56:17 AM  
Oh, Donald is being a corrupt f*ck who only cares about lining his pockets?\

Must be a day ending in -y.
 
2020-02-18 8:56:20 AM  
He has to get up as much as he can, as fast as he can, because it's the only thing he has to run on that isn't a bald faced lie or taking credit for something someone else did.

I can't wait to see a proper presser. We haven't had one in so long....

"Can you explain how president trump keeps taking credit for a nearly decade long upturn in the market when he has only been in president for 1/3rd of that amount of time?"

"When a democrat gets elected, can we then expect a focus on the deficit, national debt and excessive self enrichment the trump regime has been taking part in?"
 
2020-02-18 8:56:54 AM  

MrBallou: Trump is just streamlining the process.

Now instead of all the cumbersome application, competitive bidding, environmental Impact statements, yada yada yada, all the contractor has to do is show proof that the bribe went through to one of Trump's shell companies.


Trump Resort and Wall Viewpoint?
 
2020-02-18 9:08:14 AM  

DrKillPatient: This will end exactly as everyone expects.


Teapot Dome 2.0?
 
2020-02-18 9:08:36 AM  
Have not yet found a list of all contracting laws waived by DHS, including not at DHS.gov.  Did find mentions that these contracting waivers are not yet listed in the Federal Register.

Did, however, find a list of environmental laws waived by DHS since 2005 specifically for the border wall:

1.National Environmental Policy Act [NEPA]
2.Endangered Species Act
3.Clean Water Act
4.National Historic Preservation Act
5.Migratory Bird Treaty Act
6.Clean Air Act
7.Archeological Resources Protection Act
8.Safe Drinking Water Act
9.Noise Control Act
10.Solid Waste Disposal Act
11.Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act
12.Archaeological and Historic Preservation Act
13.Antiquities Act
14.Historic Sites, Buildings, and Antiquities Act
15.Wild and Scenic Rivers Act
16.Farmland Protection Policy Act
17.Coastal Zone Management Act
18.Wilderness Act
19.Federal Land Policy and Management Act
20.National Wildlife Refuge System Administration Act
21.Fish and Wildlife Act of 1956
22.Fish and Wildlife Coordination Act
23.Administrative Procedure Act
24.Otay Mountain Wilderness Act of 1999
25.California Desert Protection Act [Sections 102(29) and 103 of Title I]
26.National Park Service Organic Act
27.National Park Service General Authorities Act
28.National Parks and Recreation Act of 1978 [Sections 401(7), 403, and 404]
29.Arizona Desert Wilderness Act  [Sections 301(a)-(f)]
30.Rivers and Harbors Act of 1899
31.Eagle Protection Act
32.Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act
33.American Indian Religious Freedom Act
34.Religious Freedom Restoration Act
35.National Forest Management Act of 1976
36.Multiple Use and Sustained Yield Act of 1960
37.Military Lands Withdrawal Act of 1999
38.Sikes Act
39.Arizona-Idaho Conservation Act of 1988
40.Federal Grant and Cooperative Agreement Act of 1977
41.Migratory Bird Conservation Act
42.Paleontological Resources Preservation Act
43.Federal Cave Resources Protection Act of 1988
44.National Trails System Act
45.National Wildlife Refuge System Improvement Act of 1997
46.Reclamation Project Act of 1939 [Section 10]
47.Wild Horse and Burro Act
48.An Act of Oct 30, 2000, Pub. L. 106-398, 1, 114 Stat. 1654
 
2020-02-18 9:08:54 AM  
it's 2020. how/why is The Wallstill a thing?

kids can scale it in record time, it can easily be sawed-through, and last i checked, it just kinda falls down on it's own.
 
2020-02-18 9:10:09 AM  

skribble: it's 2020. how/why is The Wall™ still a thing?

kids can scale it in record time, it can easily be sawed-through, and last i checked, it just kinda falls down on it's own.


Trump wants a monument.
 
2020-02-18 9:12:10 AM  
So it's redirecting the swamp instead of draining it?
 
2020-02-18 9:12:23 AM  
Does that affect taking people's land as well?
 
2020-02-18 9:14:41 AM  
How soon until there is a "Trump Walls Construction Co." in business which clearly is the biglyest and best wall construction company to ever exist and it would be pure idiocy to have anyone else construct the walls. And by the way, if you think otherwise, you are suffering from abject Trump Derangement Syndrome, you liberalos.
 
2020-02-18 9:15:24 AM  
This will be the biggest chapter of government corruption since the GWB admin awarded all those no-bid contracts in Iraq and they pulled out like 20 billion in cash from the treasury and somehow failed to account for like $9 billion.
 
2020-02-18 9:15:58 AM  

Flappyhead: skribble: it's 2020. how/why is The Wall™ still a thing?

kids can scale it in record time, it can easily be sawed-through, and last i checked, it just kinda falls down on it's own.

Trump wants a monument.


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this one's probably only 4 bucks
 
2020-02-18 9:16:05 AM  
It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.
 
2020-02-18 9:17:37 AM  
I've always said the wall had nothing to do with security and everything to do with paying people off.
 
2020-02-18 9:18:26 AM  
FTA: "Under the president's leadership, we are building more wall, faster than ever before," the department said in a statement.

...although of shoddier quality than ever before, and with more blatant graft than ever before.
 
2020-02-18 9:18:53 AM  

mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.


No, it really is not.
 
2020-02-18 9:21:57 AM  

NewportBarGuy: mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.

No, it really is not.


Eh.  Some people are worthless assholes.
 
2020-02-18 9:22:56 AM  

Mugato: Does that affect taking people's land as well?


i sure hope so.  it will be a lot cheaper to build those local space force garrisons without having to worry about eminent domain
 
2020-02-18 9:24:05 AM  

NewportBarGuy: mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.

No, it really is not.


I assumed he was joking. He wasn't? I'm notoriously bad at spotting trolls.
 
2020-02-18 9:25:32 AM  
Whats the over / under on ICE busting one of the construction companies for using the very same illegals they claim to be trying to keep out?
 
2020-02-18 9:25:42 AM  
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2020-02-18 9:26:08 AM  

Flappyhead: skribble: it's 2020. how/why is The Wall™ still a thing?

kids can scale it in record time, it can easily be sawed-through, and last i checked, it just kinda falls down on it's own.

Trump wants a monument.


If he wants a monument, I'd suggest something more fitting for his personality and accomplishments.

Maybe "The Trump Memorial Basement" located directly beneath the outhouse at the National Chili Cook-off?
 
2020-02-18 9:32:23 AM  

NewportBarGuy: mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.

No, it really is not.


Sure it is. The planned wall would be an environmental disaster. But Hilary wasn't very inspiring so here we are.
 
2020-02-18 9:32:26 AM  
The 10 waived laws include requirements for having open competition, justifying selections and receiving all bonding from a contractor before any work can begin.

That doesn't sound tailor made for corruption, no sir. Sounds swampy almost.

Other presidents said I was daft to build a wall on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest wall in these lands.
 
2020-02-18 9:33:16 AM  
Due to the emergency of me being late for work this morning, I've waived all the speed and traffic laws applicable to me to expedite my commute.
 
2020-02-18 9:37:32 AM  

hissatsu: The 10 waived laws include requirements for having open competition, justifying selections and receiving all bonding from a contractor before any work can begin.

That doesn't sound tailor made for corruption, no sir. Sounds swampy almost.

Other presidents said I was daft to build a wall on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show 'em. It sank into the swamp. So, I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So, I built a third one. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp, but the fourth one... stayed up! And that's what you're gonna get, lad: the strongest wall in these lands.


Was watching a documentary, the other day, about the history of the FL everglades and all the Failed attempts to drain the swamps, and all the wonderful real estate scams that involved selling swamp land to rubes with the promise that it would be drained any day now.

I guess Trump did learn a thing or two about real estate during his time in FL.
 
2020-02-18 9:43:08 AM  
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2020-02-18 9:45:23 AM  
We won't know the true cost of this farking wall until all of it is replaced with something more permanent.
 
2020-02-18 9:46:03 AM  
Ivanka have patents on superior wall building technology that requires her to be paid a fee for each foot of wall built?
 
2020-02-18 9:56:48 AM  
Building the wall is just a scam and I guarantee there are kickbacks involved to Trump.
 
2020-02-18 9:56:56 AM  
Weird. Democrats thought it was grand how Communist China could waive laws in order to weld their own citizens inside apartment buildings. But Trump wants to keep illegals out of the country and it's somehow a national disgrace.
 
2020-02-18 10:01:47 AM  
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2020-02-18 10:26:21 AM  

born_yesterday: NewportBarGuy: mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.

No, it really is not.

Eh.  Some people are worthless assholes.


Your 'ASSHOLES' are the dumbass yeehaw rednecks and racists that think that this wall is a good idea.

Also, if Trump and some of those traitorous senators get turfed this fall, thedems need to shut this boondoggle down as fast as possible.

Your country does not need a monument to racism.
 
2020-02-18 10:32:07 AM  

Mugato: Does that affect taking people's land as well?


Yes, and it doesn't matter if the property owner voted for Trump.
 
2020-02-18 11:04:49 AM  
So how long until Trump starts his contracting company? That way he can funnel the money straight to himself.
 
2020-02-18 11:12:15 AM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Weird. Democrats thought it was grand how Communist China could waive laws in order to weld their own citizens inside apartment buildings. But Trump wants to keep illegals out of the country and it's somehow a national disgrace.


There's a lot of reasons why the wall is a disgrace.
 
2020-02-18 11:14:24 AM  

NewportBarGuy: enry: NewportBarGuy: Government contracting rules are kinda stupid, however... this is much dumber.

They're stupid because the process was abused time and time again, and each time an abuse was found someone said "there auguta he a law" and so a rule was made to plug it.  The process got really cumbersome but much more equitable.  Now we're going to slip back to the days of back room deals because of expediency over a solution in search of a problem.

Oh, it's absolutely the way. Happens with regulations, unions, all kinds of things we need but wind up getting corrupted and perverted because the nature of human beings seems to be to find that loophole somewhere to get something for ourselves or to make it "easier" to do...

I sat here for 3 years trying to get our emergency drug cache re-stocked after a failure in the cooling system destroyed $3million in drugs. They f*cked it up 8 ways from Sunday trying to fix it with this contract and that contract. In the end, we have a great stockpile ready to go, but watching the sausage get made was the most frustrating and maddening experience ever.


$3 million of drugs, thats what, 10 abortion pills and 5 vaccines?
 
2020-02-18 12:07:22 PM  

mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.


I'll believe it's an emergency when business executives start getting jailed for employing illegal immigrants.
 
2020-02-18 12:20:38 PM  

stpickrell: mrmopar5287: It's an emergency. Do you think that we had a long, drawn-out contract process to build airports during WWII? Nope, Orchard Field was paved outside Chicago so Douglas could build bombers right farking now. People in Tennessee and Washington were told to "GET OUT" so we could build the Manhattan Project, and the construction contracts were on a cost-plus basis instead of some huge bidding process.

I'll believe it's an emergency when business executives start getting jailed for employing illegal immigrants.


I would enjoy that.
 
2020-02-18 12:49:46 PM  

Alien Robot: Due to the emergency of me being late for work this morning, I've waived all the speed and traffic laws applicable to me to expedite my commute.


Someone logged to Alien Robot's account who is unaware they they are supposed to support everything Trump does.
 
2020-02-18 12:51:04 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Weird. Democrats thought it was grand how Communist China could waive laws in order to weld their own citizens inside apartment buildings.


Said no one ever.

But Trump wants to keep illegals out of the country and it's somehow a national disgrace.

This won't prevent illegals and he is a national disgrace.
 
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