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(NBC News)   Trump's former Navy secretary, Richard Spencer, endorses Bloomberg for president. Because 'anyone but Trump' is starting to be a patriotic call to duty   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2020-02-07 1:53:53 PM  
NOT THAT Richard Spencer.
 
2020-02-07 2:48:20 PM  
Good.
 
2020-02-07 3:54:43 PM  
My alternative headline:  Navy Secretary Supports Drip

Snark aside, glad to see anyone break ranks and abandon the cult without needing to be deprogrammed.
 
2020-02-07 7:02:32 PM  
Starting?!? 5 long years...
Actually we're about 3 weeks off the 30th Anniversary for some of us, from when he first brought up the idea of getting into politics in that Playboy interview published March 1, 1990.
 
2020-02-07 7:49:43 PM  
Hope that more do the same

I would like to see Mattis, who is respected by many folks, make a similar endorsement
 
2020-02-07 7:50:03 PM  
Well now I'm really on the fence about voting for Donald Trump.
 
2020-02-07 7:51:22 PM  
After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.
 
2020-02-07 7:58:04 PM  
Check cleared
 
2020-02-07 8:02:44 PM  

foo monkey: Well now I'm really on the fence about voting for Donald Trump.


He might still pivot. Once he gets the latest purge over and finally gets supporting people he can trust and count on he will be better able to focus on the reasons this country elected him for.
 
2020-02-07 8:03:13 PM  

NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.


Starting to believe you're right. Biden's not gonna make it SC, and if he does, its not going to be the "firewall" all the heads have been saying for months now.
Buttiguig, Sanders and Warren aren't going to get the enthusiasm among the establishment they've been throwing behind Biden until now and Klobuchar is non-viable (she was banking heavily on making a decent showing in Iowa and fizzled out)

..so it pains me to say, yes, I absolutely could see the DNC turning to someone who was a Republican just 13 years ago.
 
2020-02-07 8:10:17 PM  

NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.


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2020-02-07 8:12:10 PM  
Gee, I guess the Evangelicals are just not as smart and quick on the uptake as the military.
 
2020-02-07 8:12:18 PM  

NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.


The Bestest: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

Starting to believe you're right. Biden's not gonna make it SC, and if he does, its not going to be the "firewall" all the heads have been saying for months now.
Buttiguig, Sanders and Warren aren't going to get the enthusiasm among the establishment they've been throwing behind Biden until now and Klobuchar is non-viable (she was banking heavily on making a decent showing in Iowa and fizzled out)

..so it pains me to say, yes, I absolutely could see the DNC turning to someone who was a Republican just 13 years ago.


I'm a registered Democratic voter and I will vote for Bloomberg in Florida. It PAINS me to see how inept and lost of touch of reality the party is.
 
2020-02-07 8:13:16 PM  

Saiga410: Check cleared


If Sanders pays for endorsements why can't Bloomberg do the same?

/This is Fark, so to ensure that there is no miscomprehension about my message, I am mocking this poster and not being serious
 
2020-02-07 8:13:25 PM  

Saiga410: Check cleared


Trump was smart. Most of his supporters worked for him on spec or for scale crisis actor's wages.
 
2020-02-07 8:13:34 PM  
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2020-02-07 8:13:44 PM  

Somacandra: NOT THAT Richard Spencer.


You know he had to say that the whole time he was there.
 
2020-02-07 8:16:26 PM  
Yet another person who no longer matters standing up and shouting in an empty room.
 
2020-02-07 8:17:52 PM  
Did that NBC News site really call their show moderator "Cuck Todd"? (I didn't change it.)

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2020-02-07 8:18:30 PM  
Nice gesture, but Republicans aren't abandoning Trump until he loses.
 
2020-02-07 8:24:12 PM  

NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.


I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.
 
2020-02-07 8:31:42 PM  

dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.


Edit: I need to clarify "outsmart." Not that Trump is smart, but he is New York crime boss shrewd. He knows how to play dirty, play all the angles to win, and play the media, and I think that the Dem opponent has to be able to beat him at his game. It won't be for someone meek.
 
2020-02-07 8:35:59 PM  

dodecahedron: dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.

Edit: I need to clarify "outsmart." Not that Trump is smart, but he is New York crime boss shrewd. He knows how to play dirty, play all the angles to win, and play the media, and I think that the Dem opponent has to be able to beat him at his game. It won't be for someone meek.


"Crime boss shrewd", ha no. He's just a man who continually fails but finds himself in a position where those with actual power and influence discover they can use him, so they save his ass.
 
2020-02-07 8:43:23 PM  

sno man: Starting?!? 5 long years...
Actually we're about 3 weeks off the 30th Anniversary for some of us, from when he first brought up the idea of getting into politics in that Playboy interview published March 1, 1990.


He gave speeches in New Hampshire in 1987. He didn't officially run until the 2000 Reform Party, but he started toying with the media in th '88 cycle.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/23/ny​r​egion/new-hampshire-speech-earns-prais​e-for-trump.html
 
2020-02-07 8:52:59 PM  

dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.


No snark here, I am genuinely curious why you think Bloomberg wont fare well in flyover country.  Could you elaborate?
 
2020-02-07 9:09:23 PM  
"This decision here is for the good of the country," she said. "Loyalty is to the country, not to a person."

Non, mon ami. L'etat c'est Trump.
 
2020-02-07 9:15:37 PM  

dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.


I thought about Warren too, and dont get me wrong, if she is the candidate I will support her, but now she seems like a less likable Hillary and well...
 
2020-02-07 9:22:26 PM  

Somacandra: NOT THAT Richard Spencer.


Sorry, why does it matter? Donald just declares sh*t illegal because he doesn't like it. Why shouldn't we argue it's illegal for him to be that f*cking stupid?

Are we still pretending that holding the moral high ground means anything? Cuz it doesn't. The sooner Democrats and liberals understand that, the better.
 
2020-02-07 9:48:19 PM  
Anyone but Trump.
 
2020-02-07 10:28:49 PM  
No, really, this time we'll get the right rich asshole!
 
2020-02-07 10:29:15 PM  
Also: more proof that Bloomberg is GOP.
 
2020-02-07 11:49:33 PM  
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2020-02-08 1:01:58 AM  
A republican endorsing a republican is news now?
 
2020-02-08 1:02:44 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Also: more proof that Bloomberg is GOP.


He was the Republican mayor of New York City.  I didn't think there were doubts about which party he belonged to.
 
2020-02-08 9:15:59 AM  

dildo tontine: dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.

No snark here, I am genuinely curious why you think Bloomberg wont fare well in flyover country.  Could you elaborate?


Without taking a lot of other things into consideration, it would just be the rich guy New York big coastal city bias, someone who can't relate to the people of the heartland just for that stereotype. And yes, Trump was rich guy NYC too, but he was on a TV show they watched and loved for years that built his brand with them, and who knew how to manipulate the media into 24/7 coverage of him. He would have his work cut out.
 
2020-02-08 10:01:20 AM  

dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.


Agreed, but I think Bloomberg's down the middle moderate tendencies may play better in the Midwest than the progressives. That disappoints me greatly as, like you, I really like Warren, but at this point getting Trump out of office is the ONLY thing that matters, and I'm starting to think Bloomberg has the best chance of doing it.
 
2020-02-08 10:26:15 AM  

tnpir: dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.

Agreed, but I think Bloomberg's down the middle moderate tendencies may play better in the Midwest than the progressives. That disappoints me greatly as, like you, I really like Warren, but at this point getting Trump out of office is the ONLY thing that matters, and I'm starting to think Bloomberg has the best chance of doing it.


I hope you are right. I'd like to see more about how he relates to people at campaign stops. On another subject, I did hear a discussion about his controversial stop and frisk policy the other day. Apparently NY conducted five million stops. He's now saying he regrets the policy. This will be a hurdle with minority voters, but none except Biden have much support from black voters at this point. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what develops.
 
2020-02-08 10:56:57 AM  

dodecahedron: tnpir: dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.

Agreed, but I think Bloomberg's down the middle moderate tendencies may play better in the Midwest than the progressives. That disappoints me greatly as, like you, I really like Warren, but at this point getting Trump out of office is the ONLY thing that matters, and I'm starting to think Bloomberg has the best chance of doing it.

I hope you are right. I'd like to see more about how he relates to people at campaign stops. On another subject, I did hear a discussion about his controversial stop and frisk policy the other day. Apparently NY conducted five million stops. He's now saying he regrets the policy. This will be a hurdle with minority voters, but none except Biden have much support from black voters at this point. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what develops.


Thanks for responding to my question above.  I am curious to see how people respond when the learn more about stop and frisk.  It could be a real problem for Bloomberg.
 
2020-02-08 11:29:59 AM  

dildo tontine: Thanks for responding to my question above.  I am curious to see how people respond when the learn more about stop and frisk.  It could be a real problem for Bloomberg.


His spokesperson had a defense that I found fairly reasonable when putting it in context for the time in NY and what was going on with regard to the crime rate. And then saying in retrospect there were things that should have been done differently. I'd like to fact check that and do a little more in depth reading.
 
2020-02-08 3:59:28 PM  

Murkanen: A republican endorsing a republican is news now?


If you think that Mr Gun Control is a Republican, have I got a bridge to sell ya.
 
2020-02-08 7:14:04 PM  
Just finished "Running Against the Devil". If you're a Democrat and still think like "Bloomberg's "stop-and-frisk" will kill him", you are the Trump campaign's biggest present.There is one and only one job for the Democrats this year: field a candidate, ANY candidate, who can beat Trump (more accurately, the Trump campaign juggernaut). Without beating Trump, any of your precious policy must-haves will remain a dream just like they are now. If Trump wins, all of his crimes and grifts will go unpunished, and the gradual transformation of the GOP to the Trump Party will continue unabated. Ignore the reality at your peril. This is make or break for the Democratic Party. Personally, right now I only see Bloomberg as having the $$$ to confront the Machine and the simple guts to confront Trump where he's weakest. But he and/or his campaign may get lazy BECAUSE he has $$$; his team has to have the fire, discipline and smarts of the Obama teams from 2008/2012.
 
2020-02-08 10:50:18 PM  

tnpir: dodecahedron: NickBob78: After New Hampshire, the DNC will go all-in on Bloomberg.

I never thought I'd say this but I think he's the only one who can get down in the trenches and fight Trump head to head. I can't say that about any of the others at this point. I was all in for Warren but given where Trump is coming from now and what he has up his sleeve between now and November, it's going to take a lot to outsmart and out-bully him. I don't think Bloomberg is going to fare very well in flyover country though. This is going to be tough, and we could very well lose it all again because of purity tests and wishful thinking.

Agreed, but I think Bloomberg's down the middle moderate tendencies may play better in the Midwest than the progressives. That disappoints me greatly as, like you, I really like Warren, but at this point getting Trump out of office is the ONLY thing that matters, and I'm starting to think Bloomberg has the best chance of doing it.


There's one little problem with your analysis; democrats playing to the middle for decades is literally why Trump could win in 2016.  If you think the racist authoritarian with a history of sexism who's running because he doesn't want to pay taxes is viable on the democratic ticket, you need to check which demographics the democrats need high turnout in to win elections.
 
2020-02-08 11:29:08 PM  

Sandelaphon: you need to check which demographics the democrats need high turnout in to win elections.


Black voters didn't turn out in meaningful numbers in 2016, and HRC still came up 3MM votes over DJT. Granted they could be important in turning many states blue if the GOTV improves, and that would be fantastic, but it's going to take more to beat trump than ideological purity issues. Bloomberg has acknowledged fault and regret in stop and frisk, for what that's worth. I can't think of another candidate right now who could go head to head with Trump and beat him at his scorched earth game. Right now we desperately have to win and that might mean compromising on a few things short term to win the war in the long run. Otherwise we will find ourselves right back at 2016's result and then we will be royally farked.
 
2020-02-09 2:29:31 AM  
cman:

If you think that Mr Gun Control is a Republican

Think?  That was his party affiliation.  He even wanted to run third party in 2016 to help Trump get elected.
 
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