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(NYPost)   Disney may be in deep Pooh.   ( divider line
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15704 clicks; posted to Main » on 29 Jan 2002 at 11:03 AM (16 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2002-01-29 11:08:53 AM  
2002-01-29 11:09:01 AM  
They need to do something soon. Eeyore's depression is getting worse.

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2002-01-29 11:12:16 AM  
Disney is the enemy.
2002-01-29 11:13:30 AM  
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Hold me piglet.....
2002-01-29 11:16:37 AM  
My septic guy once told me "There's money in Pooh." I had no idea he worked for Disney!

(Opens up the caffeine drip to full and sighs)
2002-01-29 11:17:20 AM  
I like Winnie the Pooh...and Tigger, too!
2002-01-29 11:19:01 AM  
What the hell is a pooh? I just don't get it. Shouldn't he be Winnie the Bear?

Now Mr. Hankey the Christmas Poo makes sense. He is a poo.
2002-01-29 11:20:31 AM  
Eeyore, Grivas informs me that you're depressed....

depression is a very bad thing. It's like a virus. If you don't stamp on it it spreads throughout the mind, and then one day you wake up in the morning and you ... you can't face life anymore!
2002-01-29 11:20:58 AM  
"The curious name of Winnie-the-Pooh came from Christopher Robin, from a combination of the names of a real bear and a pet swan. During the 1920s there was a black bear named "Winnie" in the London Zoo who had been the mascot for the Winnipeg regiment of the Canadian army. "Pooh" was the name of a swan in When We Were Very Young."
2002-01-29 11:21:33 AM  
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2002-01-29 11:25:16 AM  
Please please PLEASE let Disney lose...
2002-01-29 11:25:47 AM  
Consider the source. NY Post.

That is all.

-Got Spider??
2002-01-29 11:36:24 AM  
2002-01-29 11:38:17 AM  
Ahhh... Finally some good news
2002-01-29 11:41:20 AM  
Disney is evil. Just look..
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See..Nazis! I hate Nazis!

Praise Bugs.
2002-01-29 11:41:36 AM  
Tobbeb84: That picture frightened me too....I almost couldn't finish reading the article because my eyes would jump back to it, and then another part of me would wither and die....
2002-01-29 11:51:12 AM  
In the long run, it's not really going to matter. Disney has the connections - and if they can't license Pooh, they'll just license more of their other characters.

Example: Minute Maid bought licensing for Pooh and other characters from Disney on their kids juice line. If Pooh leaves, I doubt that Minute Maid will go off to the new owners of the Pooh name (who WON'T have any rights to the Disney-drawn image of Pooh) for licensing -they'll just come out with Pocahontas Punch or The Emperor's New Juice or some other Disney character.
Disney may moan and complain if they lose licensing rights, but it's not gonna bankrupt them.
2002-01-29 11:51:59 AM  
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2002-01-29 11:52:17 AM  
I hear Coca-Cola is going to buy Disney.
2002-01-29 11:53:05 AM  
Take them down.

I hate there squeaky clean image.
2002-01-29 11:53:31 AM  
I mean their
2002-01-29 11:53:59 AM  
So the basis of this lawsuit is that the Pooh characters are popular? Does the licensing agreement say something like "you get X% as long as Pooh merchandise doesn't sell more than Mickey merchandise".

Like most things from the Post, we are only seeing just a little bit of the story. Not even enough to provide a slant either way.
2002-01-29 12:01:15 PM  
"No-one has the right to pull Pooh from Disney..."

I thought pulling Pooh was a matter of private choice for consenting adults

2002-01-29 12:02:47 PM  
Here's a list of what Disney owns

Disney - Publishing

Book Publishing Imprints

Walt Disney Company Book Publishing
Hyperion Books
Miramax Books
Magazine Subsidiary Groups

ABC Publishing Group
Disney Publishing, Inc.
Diversified Publications Group
Financial Services and Medical Group
Miller Publishing Company
Magazine titles include:

Automotive Industries
Biography (with GE and Hearst)
Disney Adventures
Disney Magazine
ECN News
ESPN Magazine (distributed by Hearst)
Family Fun
Family PC
Institutional Investor
Kentucky Prairie Farmer
Los Angeles
Multichannel News
Top Famille - French family magazine
US Weekly (50%)
Video Business
Disney - Broadcasting
(includes the Capital City/ABC subsidiary)

ABC Television Network
Owned and Operated Television Stations

WLS - Chicago
WJRT - Flint
KFSN - Fresno
KTRK - Houston
KABC - Los Angeles
WABC - New York City
WPVI - Philadelphia
WTVD - Raleigh - Durham
KGO - San Francisco
WTVG - Toledo
Radio Stations

WKHX - Atlanta
WYAY - Atlanta
WDWD - Atlanta
WMVP - Chicago
WLS - Chicago
WXCD - Chicago
WBAP - Dallas
KSCS - Dallas
WDRQ - Detroit
WJR - Detroit
WPLT - Detroit
KABC - Los Angeles
KLOS - Los Angeles
KTZN - Los Angeles
KQRS - Minneapolis - St. Paul
KXXR - Minneapolis - St. Paul
KDIZ - Minneapolis - St. Paul
KZNR - Minneapolis - St. Paul
KZNT - Minneapolis - St. Paul
KZNZ - Minneapolis - ST. Paul
WABC - New York City
WPLJ - New York City
KGO - San Francisco
KSFO - San Francisco
WMAL - Washington DC
WJZW - Washington DC
WRQX - Washington DC
Radio Disney
ESPN Radio (syndicated programming)
Cable Television

The Disney Channel
Toon Disney
ESPN Inc. (80% - Hearst Corporation owns the remaining 20%) includes ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN News, ESPN Now, ESPN Extreme
Classic Sports Network (with AT&T)
A&E Television (37.5%, with Hearst and GE)
The History Channel (with Hearst and GE)
Lifetime Television (50%, with Hearst)
Lifetime Movie Network (50% with Hearst)
E! Entertainment (with Comcast and Liberty Media)
International Broadcast

The Disney Channel UK
The Disney Channel Taiwan
The Disney Channel Australia
The Disney Channel Malaysia
The Disney Channel France
The Disney Channel Middle East
The Disney Channel Italy
The Disney Channel Spain
ESPN INC. International Ventures
Sportsvision of Australia (25%)
ESPN Brazil (50%)
ESPN STAR (50%) - sports programming throughout Asia
Net STAR (33%) owners of The Sports Network of Canada
Other International Ventures
(all with minority ownership)

Tele-Munchen - German television production and distribution
RTL-2 - German television production and distribution
Hamster Productions - French television production
TV Sport of France
Tesauro of Spain
Scandinavian Broadcasting System
Japan Sports Channel
Television Production and Distribution

Buena Vista Television
Touchstone Television
Walt Disney Television
Walt Disney Television Animation (has three wholly owned production facilities outside the United States - Japan, Australia, Canada)
Disney - Movie Production and Distribution

Walt Disney Pictures
Touchstone Pictures
Hollywood Pictures
Caravan Pictures
Miramax Films
Buena Vista Home Video
Buena Vista Home Entertainment
Buena Vista International
Disney - Financial and Retail


Sid R. Bass (partial interest - crude petroleum and natural gas production)

The Disney Store - retail stores carrying related Disney merchandise. Total number of world-wide stores as of April - 660. Locations outside United States include Canada, Europe, Asia- Pacific, Latin America.
Disney - Multimedia

Walt Disney Internet Group

ABC Internet Group
Mr. Showbiz
Disney Online (web sites and content)
Disney's Daily Blast
ESPN Internet Group (60%)
Wall of Sound
Go Network (majority stake - educational toys)

Disney Interactive (develops/markets computer software, video games, CD-ROMs)

Disney - Music

Buena Vista Music Group
Hollywood Records ( popular music and soundtracks for motion pictures)
Lyric Street Records (Nashville based country music label)
Mammoth Records (popular and alternative music label)
Walt Disney Records
Disney - Theater and Sports

Theatrical Productions

Walt Disney Theatrical Productions (productions include stage version of The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, King David)
Professional Sports Franchises

Anaheim Sports, Inc.
Mighty Ducks of Anaheim (National Hockey League)
Anaheim Angels (25% general partner ownership - Major League Baseball)
Theme Parks & Resorts

Disneyland - Anaheim, CA
Disney -MGM Studios
Disneyland Paris
Disney Regional Entertainment (entertainment and theme dining in metro areas)
Disneyland Resort
Disney Vacation Club
Magic Kingdom
Tokyo Disneyland (partial ownership)
Walt Disney World - Orlando, FL
Disney's Animal Kingdom
Disney - MGM Studios
Walt Disnery World Sports Complex (golf course, auto racing track and basball complex)
Disney Cruise Line
The Disney Institute
TiVo (partial investment)

Something tells me that even if they lose this suit they will be just fine.
2002-01-29 12:06:44 PM  
Disney better watch out. I hear Pooh's attorneys have an itchy Tigger finger.
If that doesn't bring up disturbing images, nothing will.
2002-01-29 12:10:10 PM  
That's just about the scariest thing I've seen in weeks.

Still though, it's fun to imagine Disney filing for Bankruptcy alongside Enron...two giants of the most unregulated industries in the country, Utilities and the Media, on their knees begging for snacky-smores.

All what a grand time to be a Lefty.
2002-01-29 12:11:55 PM  
There's just a wealth of fascinating quotes in this article:

"incredibly popular 'Pooh's Honey Pot' ride"

"Pooh is the 'most lucrative'"

"Pooh generates as much as a quarter of Disney's total annual revenues"

"in merchandise licensing, two thirds of our revenues come from our Mickey and Pooh properties."

"do not have any right to pull Pooh from Disney"

Okay, maybe I'm a little immature, but this sure is funny to me :)
2002-01-29 12:18:42 PM  
Gee, if Disney loses their Pooh, maybe they'll have to try to make cash from original ideas. Haven't seen that in ... uhmm ... a real goddamned long time. I could be out of date on my Disney trivia, but isn't Lady and the Tramp the last original movie they made? Everything else has been re-telling of fables or other stories (usually bad re-tellings at that) or else stealing, er, I mean "borrowing" other people's ideas and using them in some spiffy new way, with music by Tim Rice or Hans Zimmer of course.

My mate showed me a site showing the anime movie that was ripped off for Atlantis. Hardly a subtle borrowing. And even though I do like The Lion King a lot, personally, even I admit there's no denying it was a rip-off of Kimba the White Lion.

And as for Pooh? If he drops off the face of the earth, that'll be fine by me. Same thing goes for Disney really, though I know the citadel of glee won't topple that easily.
2002-01-29 12:20:29 PM  
I was on Pooh's Honey Pot ride for about three minutes, but then I just had to get off. Sorry Pooh.
2002-01-29 12:24:02 PM  
Q. What was Tigger doing with his head in the toilet?
A. He was looking for Pooh!
2002-01-29 12:28:29 PM  
"Now class, when we want to say yes in French we say 'Oui-Oui"

"HAHAHAHA!! What do you say when you want to say no, poo-poo? Excuse me while I take a wicked Yes".

-Family Guy

Oh yeah, Disney is the anti-christ, die Eisner, blah, blah, blah.
2002-01-29 12:29:31 PM  
Disney mauled by Bear.

Seriously, I hope Disney gets it ass kicked. I was in a store this weekend and saw Pooh character dolls with Toy Story costumes on, i.e. Pooh as Buzz Lightyear.

I vomited and left.
2002-01-29 12:29:35 PM  
My favorite Disney joke:

Mickey and Minnie were in Divorce Court. The Judge says "Mr. Mouse, you are here to seek a divorce from Mrs. Mouse, claiming she is insane?" Mickey replied, "I didn't say she was crazy, Judge, I said she was farking Goofy."
2002-01-29 12:29:36 PM  
All you Disney haters need to get a life. Tell your kids and grandkidshow you are for shutting down the parks and kicking Mickey on the street just because they are a corporation and all that crap. Yes they need a kick in the ass once in a while but bankruptcy is just not called for. losers...
2002-01-29 12:32:55 PM  
Disney may be in deep Pooh....Pooh-Dah... Pooh-Dah
2002-01-29 12:34:10 PM  
Finiamh - Go learn about how Disney screwed Florida (and continues to do so) before assuming people suspicious of Disney have no good reasons.
2002-01-29 12:36:11 PM  
Best. Disney. Character. Ever.
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2002-01-29 12:46:57 PM  
Pooh pooh platter.
2002-01-29 12:48:15 PM  
Finiamh needs to learn to separate cute, cuddly cartoon characters from multi-national media conglomerates. It's a subtle art.
2002-01-29 12:52:03 PM  
If I avoided every corporation's products just because they did something wrong, I wouldnt eat or be able to live much now would I.
2002-01-29 12:56:18 PM  
Let Squaresoft release Kingdom Hearts first. THEN snub Disney out.
2002-01-29 12:58:34 PM  
I don't know, is Fark a multi-nation-mega-corporate-conglomerate?
2002-01-29 01:17:45 PM  
JOHNDX, she was in Roger Rabbit right? Yeah, she is a sweetie....for a cartoon, I mean...yeah, a cartoon character...that's all.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2002-01-29 01:19:54 PM  
Deserves them right. I hope they lose the right to all the anime created by that one guy [My Neighbor Totoro,Spirited Away].

2002-01-29 01:30:05 PM  
... Eskenazi and her litigator partner Bert Fields, who has never lost a case.

When did Perry Mason change his name?
2002-01-29 01:30:43 PM  
I love you the Disney lawyers say that the termination of the Pooh licensing is unjust and unfair, even though the contract with Disney says that the heirs of Pooh have every right to terminate. Lawyers are soooooooo damn funny sometimes.
2002-01-29 01:32:53 PM  
Finiamh, that's a crappy justification. You're basically saying "It's OK with me if you imprison people in sweatshops, pollute the environment, market violence to kids and/or subvert the political process, 'cause you make neat stuff."
2002-01-29 01:57:51 PM  
Interesting how Disney refers to Winnie the Pooh as ?Pooh? rather than Winnie... I wonder why?
Oh, wait, I got it figured out...
2002-01-29 02:00:48 PM  
Nothing could make me happier than to see Disney lose its ass on this.

Disney sucks. It's sucked for quite some time. Michael Eisner's avariciousness is finally coming home to roost.

Walt Disney is pissing on you, Eisner. Greedy schmuck.
2002-01-29 02:00:48 PM  
Yeah, the tick Jessica Rabbit!!!!

mmmmmm, mmmmmm, good
for a cartoon n all, ya know....
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