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(Some Guy)   Surely Moscow Mitch will help these Kentucky Coal Miners get their back pay immediately, right? Stop laughing   (wymt.com) divider line
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2020-01-13 8:56:51 PM  
Just gotta wait a liiiiiitle bit longer and the money will start trickling down. Maybe give more money to the rich?
 
2020-01-13 9:03:50 PM  
Which side are you on boys?
Which side are you on?

 
2020-01-13 9:49:02 PM  
But but freedom and unshackling people from government control! And more reasons!
 
2020-01-13 10:05:17 PM  
"We knowed if we didn't do something

God damn Kentucky.
 
2020-01-13 10:11:19 PM  
C'mon you guys, coal mining isn't about the money, it's about the friends you make along the way.
 
2020-01-13 10:38:27 PM  

jaylectricity: "We knowed if we didn't do something

God damn Kentucky.


What? You expect them to read a book?
 
2020-01-13 10:42:12 PM  

This Is Bold Text: Just gotta wait a liiiiiitle bit longer and the money will start trickling down. Maybe give more money to the rich?


Is being a coal miner __really__ that different from being a honey dipper shoveling the muck out from downstairs in an outhouse? I assure you, the trickling down is a near guarantee. In fact, I expect wealthy GOP donors would line up to assure there was trickling down for "coal" miners. They've been doing it for years.
 
2020-01-13 11:09:48 PM  
Nope, Moscow Mitch won't help them.

/I hope KY voters remember this in November.
 
2020-01-13 11:39:02 PM  

AirForceVet: Nope, Moscow Mitch won't help them.

/I hope KY voters remember this in November.


What are they gonna do? Vote for a democrat? Pffft
 
2020-01-14 12:20:48 AM  
Can they afford to, erm, contribute a million or two to his reelection campaign? Because if not he'd be more than happy to step over their corpses on his way to further destroy America.
 
2020-01-14 12:22:31 AM  
#blacklungsmatter
 
2020-01-14 12:24:30 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Which side are you on boys?
Which side are you on?


Dropkick Murphys - Which side are you on
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2020-01-14 12:27:50 AM  

fusillade762: C'mon you guys, coal mining isn't about the money, it's about the friends you make along the way.


Sure, like fibrosis in the lungs
 
2020-01-14 12:30:41 AM  
Have they considered voting for McGrath?
 
2020-01-14 12:32:42 AM  
Nothing to do with Mitch.  Typical lefties thinking.
 
2020-01-14 12:33:16 AM  
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2020-01-14 12:38:18 AM  
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2020-01-14 12:40:48 AM  

AirForceVet: Nope, Moscow Mitch won't help them.

/I hope KY voters remember this in November.


They won't.  The GOP will remind them that taxes and teh gayz are still around, which always trumps getting paid.
 
2020-01-14 12:41:40 AM  
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2020-01-14 12:43:44 AM  
Some of the employees are behind 8 days and some 1 day on their payday. They will all be paid as we don't take this lightly. They have been paid since the 16th, so we are not sure where that number is coming from. We do not work men 17 hours as stated. We work a very normal mining schedule. We value the employees greatly for their work and their future work. Given challenging markets we are focused on ensuring the longevity of the employment for all the men and women of our organization.

Some quick googling led me to find that the average is somewhere around 60 hours a week in ~10 hour shifts.  However, I'd be willing to bet that a company that can't get its shiat together well enough to maintain continuity of payroll also is probably short staffed and therefore leading to a generous amount of overtime (especially near the holidays).
 
2020-01-14 12:44:46 AM  
What are a bunch of underage kids doing digging up coal anyway?
 
2020-01-14 12:54:20 AM  
He could help them get jobs at that Russian oligarch Derpeska aluminum plant he helped get built in Kentucky, where labor is cheap and believe it or not, a Russian-owned company provides better healthcare benefits than an American-owned aluminum company.  They love Kynect, they hate Obamacare.  Idiots.
 
2020-01-14 12:55:22 AM  
If only someone would come up with a means to unify laborers under a united cause so they have some kind of power with which to deal with shenanigans like not getting paid.

But you guys, you keep voting republican, they sure do have your best interests at heart.
 
2020-01-14 1:00:07 AM  

StaleCoffee: If only someone would come up with a means to unify laborers under a united cause so they have some kind of power with which to deal with shenanigans like not getting paid.



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2020-01-14 1:00:56 AM  

fusillade762: C'mon you guys, coal mining isn't about the money, it's about the friends you make along the way.


Which is why they need to bring back child labor to coal mining. The fact that children are only allowed to work in tobacco fields, making life long friends along the way, makes it sound like salt of the earth child coal workers can't handle yo responsibility.
 
2020-01-14 1:00:56 AM  
Send in the Pinkertons
 
2020-01-14 1:01:55 AM  

StaleCoffee: If only someone would come up with a means to unify laborers under a united cause so they have some kind of power with which to deal with shenanigans like not getting paid.

But you guys, you keep voting republican, they sure do have your best interests at heart.


Well, yeah.

I feel bad for these people. They are essentially institutionalized. They don't know how to live any other way.

In any rational society, the state would pay to educate them and relocate them to an area with real jobs.

But we don't live in a rational society. We live in the United States of America, where the weathy are *encouraged* to exploit the poor at every opportunity.
 
2020-01-14 1:02:17 AM  

AirForceVet: Nope, Moscow Mitch won't help them.

/I hope KY voters remember this in November.


cheat sheet: probably not
 
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2020-01-14 1:05:47 AM  
I guess the mining company adapted the use of exposure bucks.
 
2020-01-14 1:06:02 AM  
can't pay for labor? ya done - why argue further?
 
2020-01-14 1:10:17 AM  
When is the coal miner's dotard going to weigh in?
 
2020-01-14 1:10:55 AM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Which side are you on boys?
Which side are you on?


They are on the side of traitors
 
2020-01-14 1:13:44 AM  
We value the employees greatly for their work and their future work. Given challenging markets we are focused on ensuring the longevity of the employment for all the men and women of our organization.

Translation: we don't have the money to pay them after essential expenses (including senior management salaries).
 
2020-01-14 1:16:11 AM  

jaylectricity: "We knowed if we didn't do something

God damn Kentucky.


That was my second favorite quote:

"It's around anywhere from $24 to $3,000. And some of these men they owe more than that," said another miner.

There is no way for this to make any sense.
 
2020-01-14 1:16:25 AM  

realmolo: StaleCoffee: If only someone would come up with a means to unify laborers under a united cause so they have some kind of power with which to deal with shenanigans like not getting paid.

But you guys, you keep voting republican, they sure do have your best interests at heart.

Well, yeah.

I feel bad for these people. They are essentially institutionalized. They don't know how to live any other way.

In any rational society, the state would pay to educate them and relocate them to an area with real jobs.

But we don't live in a rational society. We live in the United States of America, where the weathy are *encouraged* to exploit the poor at every opportunity.


They were offered steps towards that, the vast majority chose Donald J Trump instead.
 
2020-01-14 1:16:49 AM  
The cost of lumber, coal, concrete or iron goes up, Business finds a way to deal with it.  Labor says we haven't gotten a raise since the 70s and Business acts like Che Guevara just crapped in their Wheaties.  Why is labor expected to cost as close to nothing as possible, but expected to perform or goddammit you're fired!  And for the last 40 years labor in America has exceeded every expectation and made thousands of millionaires.  So how about a little something for the effort?
 
2020-01-14 1:20:02 AM  

wademh: This Is Bold Text: Just gotta wait a liiiiiitle bit longer and the money will start trickling down. Maybe give more money to the rich?

Is being a coal miner __really__ that different from being a honey dipper shoveling the muck out from downstairs in an outhouse? I assure you, the trickling down is a near guarantee. In fact, I expect wealthy GOP donors would line up to assure there was trickling down for "coal" miners. They've been doing it for years.


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2020-01-14 1:20:57 AM  
 
2020-01-14 1:21:50 AM  
Reminder that this is what "Ending the war on coal" looks like. Unpaid miners staging sitins for their wages. Just today Hannity was taking credit for Trump ending the war on coal and investing in Foxconn.

With this story, I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been violence on either side.
 
2020-01-14 1:23:16 AM  

gunsmack: jaylectricity: "We knowed if we didn't do something

God damn Kentucky.

That was my second favorite quote:

"It's around anywhere from $24 to $3,000. And some of these men they owe more than that," said another miner.

There is no way for this to make any sense.


Pretty sure he means $2400 to $3000. Say it his way out load as if in conversation and it sounds normal.
 
2020-01-14 1:33:00 AM  

dr_iacovone: What are a bunch of underage kids doing digging up coal anyway?


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2020-01-14 1:33:22 AM  

loudboy: gunsmack: jaylectricity: "We knowed if we didn't do something

God damn Kentucky.

That was my second favorite quote:

"It's around anywhere from $24 to $3,000. And some of these men they owe more than that," said another miner.

There is no way for this to make any sense.

Pretty sure he means $2400 to $3000. Say it his way out load as if in conversation and it sounds normal.


Assuming you're right: And some of these men they owe more than that,

So it's still not between those.
 
2020-01-14 1:38:53 AM  
That's the ticket!

This is the boot strappiness we all know and love from them. Say what you will but they are standing up for something and not being beat down and taking it as usual. They are out of lock step with the herd.

Gofir it!
 
2020-01-14 1:43:57 AM  
Is it ironic that in a state called KY the coal industry always goes in dry?
 
2020-01-14 1:47:15 AM  

gunsmack: loudboy: gunsmack: jaylectricity: "We knowed if we didn't do something

God damn Kentucky.

That was my second favorite quote:

"It's around anywhere from $24 to $3,000. And some of these men they owe more than that," said another miner.

There is no way for this to make any sense.

Pretty sure he means $2400 to $3000. Say it his way out load as if in conversation and it sounds normal.

Assuming you're right: And some of these men they owe more than that,

So it's still not between those.


Not an uncommon way to say things in unprepared discussion. This isn't a professional talking, just a guy talking off the cuff. I hear "X to Y or more" not uncommonly.

Hell, how many time's have you seen an advertisement saying "up to X% off or more"? There is even an Xkcd about it.
 
2020-01-14 1:53:12 AM  

This Is Bold Text: Just gotta wait a liiiiiitle bit longer and the money will start trickling down. Maybe give more money to the rich?


Just to be on the safe side, we should cut taxes.  This should give us some breathing room until we can cut taxes.
 
2020-01-14 1:54:47 AM  
State Senators should get involved when a dozen people have a pay cheque late by one week? Go home, subby, you're drunk.
 
2020-01-14 2:02:15 AM  

Shaggy_C: State Senators should get involved when a dozen people have a pay cheque late by one week? Go home, subby, you're drunk.


Who said anything about state senators?

I assume the comment flows more as a next step after a group of miners went to Mitch over the black lung fund in the summer and he got his photo op and left without talking to them. While various Democratic senators from Appalachia sat down to discuss matters with them.
 
2020-01-14 2:10:38 AM  

Aquapope: The cost of lumber, coal, concrete or iron goes up, Business finds a way to deal with it.  Labor says we haven't gotten a raise since the 70s and Business acts like Che Guevara just crapped in their Wheaties.  Why is labor expected to cost as close to nothing as possible, but expected to perform or goddammit you're fired!  And for the last 40 years labor in America has exceeded every expectation and made thousands of millionaires.  So how about a little something for the effort?


And that "something" will be a cold shoulder and a snort, and possibly a beating if they decide to do something foolish, like express their misery through civil disobedience instead of merely starving quietly.

Remember when Shrubya made that joke about the Haves and the Have Mores and called them his base?  That wasn't a joke, and they find poor people endlessly hilarious.
 
2020-01-14 2:41:48 AM  
Can they die off faster?
 
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