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2019-11-15 5:48:48 PM  
23 votes:
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2019-11-15 7:36:07 PM  
14 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: We Ate the Necco Wafers: I've got that sweet rhesus monkey blood in me.

So, you're full of Rhesus pieces?


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2019-11-15 5:57:32 PM  
11 votes:
Moreover, HIV testing has improved over the last several decades - tests are reliable three weeks after possible exposure now.

Wouldn't they be testing all blood anyway for HIV and lots of other things?

/ I had A LOT of blood tests done before donating a kidney and results were negative for ALL the things
// I considered getting tattoos for the Good Housekeeping seal and Underwriters Labs
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2019-11-15 5:45:56 PM  
10 votes:
I'm AB

you're all my blood bags.
 
2019-11-15 6:15:48 PM  
9 votes:
They should at least let the recipients know the sexual orientations of the donors. It's just not right to give homosexual blood to straight men. There are also increased risks to be concerned with. I mean the last time I received a transfusion, it turned out to be from a gay, and I blew five guys on my way through the parking lot.
 
2019-11-15 5:50:38 PM  
7 votes:
LGBTQnation

I thought it was LGBTQAPXRS now.
 
2019-11-15 11:39:49 PM  
6 votes:

0z79: Sensei Can You See: 0z79: just good excuses to persecute gay people;  mine was that in the absence of an effective screening apparatus, it was totally possible to take steps to keep tainted blood out of circul ...


You never closed your parenthetical.

I never opened one.

Several months later we attended another meeting for more protocol changes, these about handling sharps (electric razor heads, disposable razors, syringes and so on. They also mentioned the updated policies about donating and using blood products. This set my friend off again, but the director shut him down even faster: "This is NOT the time and place for this discussion! Surgical patients all over the country are contracting HIV from tainted blood, so your grandstanding is unprofessional. Either you get with the program here or you find another job."

You most certainly DID.


Oh, all right already. Here:

)

Happy now?
 
2019-11-15 9:58:04 PM  
6 votes:

Sensei Can You See: 0z79: just good excuses to persecute gay people;  mine was that in the absence of an effective screening apparatus, it was totally possible to take steps to keep tainted blood out of circul ...


You never closed your parenthetical.

I never opened one.


Several months later we attended another meeting for more protocol changes, these about handling sharps (electric razor heads, disposable razors, syringes and so on. They also mentioned the updated policies about donating and using blood products. This set my friend off again, but the director shut him down even faster: "This is NOT the time and place for this discussion! Surgical patients all over the country are contracting HIV from tainted blood, so your grandstanding is unprofessional. Either you get with the program here or you find another job."

You most certainly DID.
 
2019-11-15 7:10:00 PM  
6 votes:

We Ate the Necco Wafers: I've got that sweet rhesus monkey blood in me.


So, you're full of Rhesus pieces?
 
2019-11-15 6:11:32 PM  
5 votes:
I've got that sweet rhesus monkey blood in me.
 
2019-11-15 8:05:11 PM  
4 votes:
LGBTQnation is the name of my new super fabulous Erasure/VNV Nation cover band.
 
2019-11-15 6:46:16 PM  
4 votes:
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2019-11-15 6:34:08 PM  
4 votes:
An upcoming convention I'm going to is allowing the Red Cross come in to take donations. After the announcement, we had someone claim that the convention was homophobic for allowing the Red Cross access. Their argument was that *no one* should be able to donate until restrictions on his donating were lifted.
 
2019-11-15 6:10:02 PM  
4 votes:

jaytkay: Moreover, HIV testing has improved over the last several decades - tests are reliable three weeks after possible exposure now.

Wouldn't they be testing all blood anyway for HIV and lots of other things?

/ I had A LOT of blood tests done before donating a kidney and results were negative for ALL the things
// I considered getting tattoos for the Good Housekeeping seal and Underwriters Labs
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And by doing so you would be banned from donating for a time. I think it would be worth it...
 
2019-11-15 5:49:34 PM  
4 votes:
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Magic is as magic does.
 
2019-11-15 9:22:48 PM  
3 votes:

Sensei Can You See: meanmutton: As long as they are getting very specific with individual acts and behaviors, recognizing that not every sexual act has the same chance at HIV transmission, this is a good idea.

Men who engage in only oral sex with another man in a monogamous relationship absolutely dont have the same chance at HIV transmission as men who bareback bottom for random Grindr hookups, for instance. But they do need to recognize that not every sex act has the same chances of disease transmission.

I worked in a state hospital when AIDS first came on the scene. I attended a meeting at which we discussed enhanced protocol with at-risk patients for blood and body fluid handling and disposal. A guy I worked with, with whom I got along just fine and who was gay, tried to hijack the meeting by complaining about discrimination and homophobia and so on.

The clinical director shut him down and said, "Listen, those are good questions and a valuable discussion, but not here. There's a great deal we don't yet know about this virus, and we will be following these new JCAH guidelines, for your safety and our patients' safety."

Several months later we attended another meeting for more protocol changes, these about handling sharps (electric razor heads, disposable razors, syringes and so on. They also mentioned the updated policies about donating and using blood products. This set my friend off again, but the director shut him down even faster: "This is NOT the time and place for this discussion! Surgical patients all over the country are contracting HIV from tainted blood, so your grandstanding is unprofessional. Either you get with the program here or you find another job."

My friend decided to keep his job, but he and I discussed it a number of times. His position was that all these new restrictions were just good excuses to persecute gay people;  mine was that in the absence of an effective screening apparatus, it was totally possible to take steps to keep tainted blood out of circul ...


You never closed your parenthetical.
 
2019-11-15 9:29:08 PM  
2 votes:

0z79: Sensei Can You See: meanmutton: As long as they are getting very specific with individual acts and behaviors, recognizing that not every sexual act has the same chance at HIV transmission, this is a good idea.

Men who engage in only oral sex with another man in a monogamous relationship absolutely dont have the same chance at HIV transmission as men who bareback bottom for random Grindr hookups, for instance. But they do need to recognize that not every sex act has the same chances of disease transmission.

I worked in a state hospital when AIDS first came on the scene. I attended a meeting at which we discussed enhanced protocol with at-risk patients for blood and body fluid handling and disposal. A guy I worked with, with whom I got along just fine and who was gay, tried to hijack the meeting by complaining about discrimination and homophobia and so on.

The clinical director shut him down and said, "Listen, those are good questions and a valuable discussion, but not here. There's a great deal we don't yet know about this virus, and we will be following these new JCAH guidelines, for your safety and our patients' safety."

Several months later we attended another meeting for more protocol changes, these about handling sharps (electric razor heads, disposable razors, syringes and so on. They also mentioned the updated policies about donating and using blood products. This set my friend off again, but the director shut him down even faster: "This is NOT the time and place for this discussion! Surgical patients all over the country are contracting HIV from tainted blood, so your grandstanding is unprofessional. Either you get with the program here or you find another job."

My friend decided to keep his job, but he and I discussed it a number of times. His position was that all these new restrictions were just good excuses to persecute gay people;  mine was that in the absence of an effective screening apparatus, it was totally possible to take steps to keep tainted blood out of circul ...

You never closed your parenthetical.


Are you one of my alts?
 
2019-11-15 9:17:48 PM  
2 votes:

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Vulcans, hell! That's the Drazi!


You know, it's posts like this that cause unrest.

Now I feel like I have to binge watch all of Babylon 5 this weekend.
 
2019-11-16 12:08:43 AM  
1 vote:
What a depressing thread. It's almost like you all forgot that people can and do lie on these forms. If every batch of blood was tested, this would never be an issue, plain and simple. Instead, we have a lot of misinformation and fear mongering by those who seem to be stuck in the 1980s.
 
2019-11-15 9:11:38 PM  
1 vote:
It all seems a bit silly, considering the fact that HIV spread internationally because corporations were getting super-cheap blood for blood factors from prisons and inner city clinics with known drug problems, not from the gay community.
 
2019-11-15 8:53:04 PM  
1 vote:

berylman: Crustaceans get funky with the Cu2+ and go green and purple


Just like Vulcans.
 
2019-11-15 6:30:52 PM  
1 vote:
"The blood will not actually be used in a clinical setting. UNILAD says they're trying to make a point about how much blood could be donated if the gay blood ban were lifted and how safe it would be with their individualized risk assessment approach."


So this is literally just a ritual blood sacrifice, and for their purposes, the more blood sacrificed, the better.

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2019-11-15 6:10:30 PM  
1 vote:
They adjusted the mad cow restrictions a few years ago.  As long as they are being scientific about it, and erring on the side of caution, I'm ok with it.

Of course, donors carry the moral obligation to be truthful when they fill out the donation form.

That one time with the hairy guy in the bar restroom still happened, even if you've lied to yourself that it didn't really count since you were drunk and angry with your boyfriend.
 
2019-11-15 5:57:17 PM  
1 vote:

pikov.yndropov: LGBTQnation

I thought it was LGBTQAPXRS now.


Ya know, the less people the heteros discriminate against, the less people that have to be included in a group fighting for equality.
 
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