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2019-11-16 12:12:05 AM  

0z79: Sensei Can You See: 0z79: just good excuses to persecute gay people;  mine was that in the absence of an effective screening apparatus, it was totally possible to take steps to keep tainted blood out of circul ...


You never closed your parenthetical.

I never opened one.

Several months later we attended another meeting for more protocol changes, these about handling sharps (electric razor heads, disposable razors, syringes and so on. They also mentioned the updated policies about donating and using blood products. This set my friend off again, but the director shut him down even faster: "This is NOT the time and place for this discussion! Surgical patients all over the country are contracting HIV from tainted blood, so your grandstanding is unprofessional. Either you get with the program here or you find another job."

You most certainly DID.


This is a bad thread for the OCD farkers...
 
2019-11-16 12:13:47 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: JohnAnnArbor: Thosw: An upcoming convention I'm going to is allowing the Red Cross come in to take donations. After the announcement, we had someone claim that the convention was homophobic for allowing the Red Cross access. Their argument was that *no one* should be able to donate until restrictions on his donating were lifted.

Twenty years ago some jerk wrote to the campus newspaper about the current blood drive and how he was going to lie to donate because the policy was wrong in his not-medical-at-all opinion.

Whoa.  Sis they scrap the donation then?


Did, not sis.
 
2019-11-16 1:53:52 AM  
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2019-11-16 1:59:06 AM  
What if you're not gay or bi? Do you still get the gay and bi blood which turns you gay? Can you request White Christian Flat Earth blood?
 
2019-11-16 2:02:49 AM  

0z79: 3rd Burglar: pikov.yndropov: LGBTQnation

I thought it was LGBTQAPXRS now.

Ya know, the less people the heteros discriminate against, the less people that have to be included in a group fighting for equality.

It's like arguing for a "stright pride" parade. They don't NEED one, because nobody's killing them just for being straight. We LGBT people need to celebrate every year we get to be not murdered.


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Good food unites everyone together!
 
2019-11-16 8:48:22 AM  

berylman: Random side note: Interestingly the primary oxygen absorbing component of your red blood cells in heme porphyrin is capable of displaying a remarkable spectra of colors in the presence of different metals in which normal cases is iron and just blue and red.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x218] Crustaceans get funky with the Cu2+ and go green and purple


I think crustaceans use magnesium in the middle for blue blood. Put a copper in there and you get chlorophyll, which can be green or red or purple.
 
2019-11-16 9:00:24 AM  

spaceman375: berylman: Random side note: Interestingly the primary oxygen absorbing component of your red blood cells in heme porphyrin is capable of displaying a remarkable spectra of colors in the presence of different metals in which normal cases is iron and just blue and red.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x218] Crustaceans get funky with the Cu2+ and go green and purple

I think crustaceans use magnesium in the middle for blue blood. Put a copper in there and you get chlorophyll, which can be green or red or purple.


Horseshoe crabs have blue blood, but they use something totally different - hemocyanin.  Lots of nitrogen, multiple rings connected together by copper in the middle
 
2019-11-16 9:36:52 AM  

rebelyell2006: Resident Muslim: rebelyell2006: It all seems a bit silly, considering the fact that HIV spread internationally because corporations were getting super-cheap blood for blood factors from prisons and inner city clinics with known drug problems, not from the gay community.

Source?
I'd imagine if that was the case a LOT of blood transfusion patients would have gotten sick at that period. I don't recall anything like that.

/I recall patients getting sick, just not the number your scenario would allude to
//also sounds worse than a chain gang
///I trust me memory in general, but not always, hence the request

Linky. It was global.


Thank you for the link. My mind has been updated.
That is atrocious. And sad. :(
 
2019-11-16 10:55:33 AM  

slantsix: What a depressing thread. It's almost like you all forgot that people can and do lie on these forms. If every batch of blood was tested, this would never be an issue, plain and simple. Instead, we have a lot of misinformation and fear mongering by those who seem to be stuck in the 1980s.


It was my understanding that HIV could be present but undetectable in blood for the first few weeks, and that's where the risk factor comes in.
 
2019-11-16 11:39:43 AM  
There are blood tests available that will reliably screen out problems. Not all problems, just most of them.

The Red Cross is notoriously profit-driven and, for all the screaming it does about needing more donors, it doesn't like paying for either donors or testing. When it turned out that some of their blood supply was infecting Americans, they just sold the blood overseas, where there's not as much of a problem with lawsuits.
 
2019-11-16 2:41:49 PM  

slantsix: What a depressing thread. It's almost like you all forgot that people can and do lie on these forms. If every batch of blood was tested, this would never be an issue, plain and simple. Instead, we have a lot of misinformation and fear mongering by those who seem to be stuck in the 1980s.


Every batch of blood IS tested. Every single one. It's tested for Hepatitis , HIV, Syphilis, West Nile, Zika, and more.

But it's tested in batches because testing isn't cheap. My blood is mixed with samples from a dozen other donors and they are tested as a group, so if you have Hepatitis and donate anyway my blood gets dumped if my blood happens to get tested with yours.
 
2019-11-16 4:10:54 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Diogenes: The deferral period is 12 months in the U.S.

I guess I'll just keep my universal donor blood all to myself, then.

If you didn't know that it was 12 months (down from any male-male sexual contact since 1977) you weren't donating anyway so save me your false indignation.

/will have donated 100 units next year.


Oh, I knew. And I used to give regularly, before I was sexually active.  But nice humblebrag there.
 
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