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(Yahoo)   Affordable housing has finally returned to Los Angeles, where $800 gets you a "capsule" the size of a bunk in a Navy sub   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2019-11-13 2:43:09 PM  
Nonsense.   It's November, 2019.  There is no housing shortage in Los Angeles:

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2019-11-13 3:09:59 PM  
Kay Wilson packed up her life in a hurry and moved to Los Angeles... only to find that what she paid in Pennsylvania for a nice studio apartment would only get her a 2.9-square-meter box in California.

I'm the man in the box
Buried in my sh*t
Won't you come and save me?

/obscure?
 
2019-11-13 3:13:19 PM  
I see pictures of the 'boxes'.
I see pictures of the communal kitchen.
I see pictures of the communal recording studio.

I do not see pictures of the bathroom these 50 people have to share.
Perhaps that is entirely intentional.
 
2019-11-13 3:14:39 PM  
So for $400 you can hot bunk it?
 
2019-11-13 3:15:27 PM  
Proof positive that sunny has never seen a bunk in a navy sub.  That capsule would fit two to four.
 
2019-11-13 3:15:32 PM  

gonzoduke: Well, that just sounds awful. What do you do when you want to bring a bar hag home on a Friday night?


that's why people bang next to a dumpster in an alley.
 
2019-11-13 3:15:50 PM  
"They contain a single bed, a bar for hanging clothes, a few compartments for storing shoes and other items and an air vent."

That's not a vent, it's a glory hole.
 
2019-11-13 3:16:27 PM  
Better than nothing, eh?

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2019-11-13 3:18:22 PM  
No thanks, I'll stay in flyover country, which just happens to be the best place in the US to live when the results of climate change are more apparent.
 
2019-11-13 3:18:25 PM  
I think those are called hostels for backpackers...changed to apts.
 
2019-11-13 3:19:44 PM  
Wait, "Each room contains up to six capsules"
Kinda like this.. ?
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2019-11-13 3:22:37 PM  
Don't worry.  In the next 5 years, all housing problems will be solved.
 
2019-11-13 3:23:04 PM  
Among the rules: women and men sleep apart, and having sex is not an option.

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2019-11-13 3:23:55 PM  
<sarcasm>Think of how it could be far worse. Instead of paying $800/mo to smell other people's shiat and hear them bone all farking day in a property you have 0 chance of ever getting any equity in, you could be living in one of these areas. The horror.</sarcasm>

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2019-11-13 3:24:36 PM  
What is this? Housing for ants?!
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2019-11-13 3:28:49 PM  
Of course... but you should sublet those beds into AirBnbs by the night. Which is a thing.  A very good friend of mine works for UCLA. On site one week a month (roughly), remote otherwise.  Works like 60 hours the week he's there, sleeps in a glorified cult compound. Duffel of clothes and his Macbook. Then on Friday flies back to Omaha and spends three weeks in his $60,000 farm house.

It's both clever and entirely, totally nuts.
 
2019-11-13 3:36:44 PM  

MDI_BugMan: I do not see pictures of the bathroom these 50 people have to share.


Well, you know what a 5-gallon bucket in a back alley looks like, right?
 
2019-11-13 3:37:10 PM  

bekovich: Wait, "Each room contains up to six capsules"
Kinda like this.. ?
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2019-11-13 3:38:30 PM  

Walker: Kay Wilson packed up her life in a hurry and moved to Los Angeles... only to find that what she paid in Pennsylvania for a nice studio apartment would only get her a 2.9-square-meter box in California.

I'm the man in the box
Buried in my sh*t
Won't you come and save me?

/obscure?


No, not at all.
 
2019-11-13 3:53:02 PM  
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The most impressive part of this shot, to me, is that 35W isn't under construction.
 
2019-11-13 3:53:27 PM  

Walker: Kay Wilson packed up her life in a hurry and moved to Los Angeles... only to find that what she paid in Pennsylvania for a nice studio apartment would only get her a 2.9-square-meter box in California.

I'm the man in the box
Buried in my sh*t
Won't you come and save me?

/obscure?


No way, I'm a huge Soundgarden fan.
 
2019-11-13 3:57:38 PM  

gonzoduke: Well, that just sounds awful. What do you do when you want to bring a bar hag home on a Friday night?


It explicitly says sex is not an option.

No bar hags!!!
 
2019-11-13 3:58:40 PM  

shiny dagmar: "They contain a single bed, a bar for hanging clothes, a few compartments for storing shoes and other items and an air vent."

That's not a vent, it's a glory hole.


I thought maybe it was where the food pellets and water was dispensed from.
 
2019-11-13 4:04:25 PM  
This is going to become a thing much moreso. A lot of bigger cities are unaffordable. These tight communal spaces will be a thing because people in their 20s want to be in the big cities.

You take the bad with the good I guess.

But the fact that it looks like they just get a curtain instead of something closeable and/or lockable is pretty damned bad.

Also can't help but throw in, I don't feel to bad for anyone who goes to LA to get discovered or whatever.
 
2019-11-13 4:09:04 PM  
If they could offer this kind of shelter in more cities for much less money then a lot of the tent-dwellers in mid-range cities would be much safer and happier.   The feeder cities taking up their homeless population would help take the burden off the central cities.
 
2019-11-13 4:12:01 PM  

Marine1: <sarcasm>Think of how it could be far worse. Instead of paying $800/mo to smell other people's shiat and hear them bone all farking day in a property you have 0 chance of ever getting any equity in, you could be living in one of these areas. The horror.</sarcasm>



Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.
People move to and live in places that will give them the opportunities they want. You get one chance on this earth. Make it count or GTFO.
 
2019-11-13 4:12:55 PM  

chawco: This is going to become a thing much moreso. A lot of bigger cities are unaffordable. These tight communal spaces will be a thing because people in their 20s want to be in the big cities.


This is where logic would traditionally kick in.

"I can't afford to live in LA or NYC. Maybe if we, as a generation, start moving to other cities, they'll begin to obtain the features in a city that make them more desirable that are dependent on population."

I'm 28 and can tell you there's some bifurcation in what Millennials experience in large coastal cities versus what those of us in large inland cities experience. A lot of self-inflicted financial harm has been done by people going to school out of state (higher tuition) and leaving behind the support system and generational wealth of their home regions. It works for some people, but not everyone.
 
2019-11-13 4:15:14 PM  

rewind2846: Marine1: <sarcasm>Think of how it could be far worse. Instead of paying $800/mo to smell other people's shiat and hear them bone all farking day in a property you have 0 chance of ever getting any equity in, you could be living in one of these areas. The horror.</sarcasm>


Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.
People move to and live in places that will give them the opportunities they want. You get one chance on this earth. Make it count or GTFO.


I'd like to second this. Lots of dumb comment of "if it's to expensive move" to stories like this or comments of the cost of living.

If I could.move out of Toronto to somewhere with reasonable rent I would, but I can't, so here I stay.
 
2019-11-13 4:15:35 PM  
It's not even big enough to be a meat popsicle.
 
2019-11-13 4:18:09 PM  

Marine1: "I can't afford to live in LA or NYC. Maybe if we, as a generation, start moving to other cities, they'll begin to obtain the features in a city that make them more desirable that are dependent on population."


Those "other cities" have - in many cases - 50 years of catching up to do before they can even begin to compete with real cities, and not just in amenities but attitude. Are the 20-somethings willing to wait until the city they moved to in flyoverville catches up to what they want? Maybe by the time they are eligible for social security?
 
2019-11-13 4:19:27 PM  

rewind2846: Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.


Some people's desires of what to do with their lives are stupid. We spent the 80s, 90s, and 2000s worshiping celebrity culture and telling kids that they could be whatever they wanted to be, instead of making them face facts. Now they're all grown up. That's where you get people living in fire traps in Los Angeles and NYC where they can't afford basic costs of living, let alone things that could allow them to contribute economically through home ownership, starting small businesses, or saving up for retirement.

We never told these kids it was fine to work at a firm of 200 people in Milwaukee making a decent salary and put a down payment on a sensible home, and now their ambition is screwing them. There were a lot of guys at my 10 year HS reunion this summer who went to the big coastal tech firms and did well, but were completely and totally disillusioned by their 27th birthdays and came home just utterly broken not only financially, but mentally.
 
2019-11-13 4:23:01 PM  

Marine1: Some people's desires of what to do with their lives are stupid.


Some people's desires on what to do with their lives are not yours to judge.
I would rather have "I tried but I failed" as part of my life than "I didn't try because I was chickenshat".
 
2019-11-13 4:23:09 PM  

rewind2846: Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.



Neither will living in a U-Haul trailer in Los Angeles.
 
2019-11-13 4:26:07 PM  

give me doughnuts: rewind2846: Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.


Neither will living in a U-Haul trailer in Los Angeles.


Still a better chance than being in Buffalo Nuts, Wyoming. If you want something you have to go where that something is and try to get it.
 
2019-11-13 4:26:28 PM  

chawco: rewind2846: Marine1: <sarcasm>Think of how it could be far worse. Instead of paying $800/mo to smell other people's shiat and hear them bone all farking day in a property you have 0 chance of ever getting any equity in, you could be living in one of these areas. The horror.</sarcasm>


Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.
People move to and live in places that will give them the opportunities they want. You get one chance on this earth. Make it count or GTFO.

I'd like to second this. Lots of dumb comment of "if it's to expensive move" to stories like this or comments of the cost of living.

If I could.move out of Toronto to somewhere with reasonable rent I would, but I can't, so here I stay.


You can move, you choose not to.
 
2019-11-13 4:26:43 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: It's not even big enough to be a meat popsicle.


Auto-w-w-w-w-ash...
 
2019-11-13 4:27:40 PM  

give me doughnuts: rewind2846: Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.


Neither will living in a U-Haul trailer in Los Angeles.


It was worth it for the Corvette.
 
2019-11-13 4:28:51 PM  
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Just think Uncle Jed...we each get our own sleeping tube.
 
2019-11-13 4:32:24 PM  

rewind2846: give me doughnuts: rewind2846: Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.


Neither will living in a U-Haul trailer in Los Angeles.

Still a better chance than being in Buffalo Nuts, Wyoming. If you want something you have to go where that something is and try to get it.


I want to be away from self-important people that think that you can only succeed in life by moving to a coastal city and overpaying to live in conditions that resemble a 19th century tenement in the Bowery.


For some reason, Google Maps can't find Buffalo Nuts, Wyoming. Did you make a typo?
 
2019-11-13 4:33:21 PM  

gar1013: chawco: rewind2846: Marine1: <sarcasm>Think of how it could be far worse. Instead of paying $800/mo to smell other people's shiat and hear them bone all farking day in a property you have 0 chance of ever getting any equity in, you could be living in one of these areas. The horror.</sarcasm>


Will living in one of these places give them a chance to do what they want in this life? No? Then STFU.
People move to and live in places that will give them the opportunities they want. You get one chance on this earth. Make it count or GTFO.

I'd like to second this. Lots of dumb comment of "if it's to expensive move" to stories like this or comments of the cost of living.

If I could.move out of Toronto to somewhere with reasonable rent I would, but I can't, so here I stay.

You can move, you choose not to.


You are such a stupid asshat.

I can move, and abandon my career. I can move, and abandon my children, who's mother will not agree to the move and shares dual custody with me.

Yes I can do all sorts of things. I can stick my hand in a meat grinder, but ain't gonna. Cost-benefit analyses don't work out, ya see.
 
2019-11-13 4:34:01 PM  
Where the hell ELSE are all of the service drones that supply those of us who CAN afford to live here going to stay?

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2019-11-13 4:35:02 PM  
The thing about capsule hotels is, they are hotels. You don't live in them and you spend most of your time outside of them. They are super cheap.

There are places in Tokyo a person can rent for $800 a month. Not great places but not capsules either.

It's like America is no longer cheaper to live on than the rest of the developed world and we haven't noticed it.
 
2019-11-13 4:36:08 PM  

Marine1: <sarcasm>Think of how it could be far worse. Instead of paying $800/mo to smell other people's shiat and hear them bone all farking day in a property you have 0 chance of ever getting any equity in, you could be living in one of these areas. The horror.</sarcasm>


The third image down is one of my favorite shots of Minneapolis.  It was my computer desktop for a while, until I replaced it with a picture I took of City Hall and the heart of Downtown from the 15th floor patio of the Wells Fargo 550 building.

I own 1,550 square feet (split level, 3 bed, 2 bath) less than a half-hour bus ride from Downtown Minneapolis.  My mortgage payment (including property tax escrow) and HOA dues add up to less than the $800/month mentioned in TFA.
 
2019-11-13 4:40:48 PM  

rewind2846: Marine1: "I can't afford to live in LA or NYC. Maybe if we, as a generation, start moving to other cities, they'll begin to obtain the features in a city that make them more desirable that are dependent on population."

Those "other cities" have - in many cases - 50 years of catching up to do before they can even begin to compete with real cities, and not just in amenities but attitude. Are the 20-somethings willing to wait until the city they moved to in flyoverville catches up to what they want? Maybe by the time they are eligible for social security?


But if nobody moves to those cities how can they change? You can be a part of the change or you can be a mindless sheep biatching about flyover country while spending so much of you income on housing you are essentially an indentured servant.
 
2019-11-13 4:40:54 PM  
wage0048: I own 1,550 square feet (split level, 3 bed, 2 bath) less than a half-hour bus ride from Downtown Minneapolis.  My mortgage payment (including property tax escrow) and HOA dues add up to less than the $800/month mentioned in TFA.

Good on ya. You found what you wanted in Minneapolis, and chose to stay. This is what some folks here cannot grasp... if you are where you want to be and find what you want there, good. If what you want is somewhere else, then go there.
 
2019-11-13 4:42:21 PM  

rewind2846: Marine1: Some people's desires of what to do with their lives are stupid.

Some people's desires on what to do with their lives are not yours to judge.
I would rather have "I tried but I failed" as part of my life than "I didn't try because I was chickenshat".


You're going to be judged from the day you're born to the day you die, and a lot of that is based on what you choose to do with your life.

We're flushing billions down the tubes trying to solve problems associated with overcrowding and poverty in places like LA, NYC, and SF, trying to deal with problems that are ultimately just the market doing what the market is going to do. Meanwhile, we're flushing billions down the tubes trying to solve problems caused by lack of tax base and human capital in other cities. If we stopped stigmatizing being an average Joe that works towards the advancement of society as a whole, we might be able to solve these problems.
 
2019-11-13 4:43:00 PM  

Tom_Slick: But if nobody moves to those cities how can they change?


I think the question you should ask is "Why are people leaving these cities?" because that is what is happening now.
The answer to that is the answer to your question.
 
2019-11-13 4:43:32 PM  

rewind2846: wage0048: I own 1,550 square feet (split level, 3 bed, 2 bath) less than a half-hour bus ride from Downtown Minneapolis.  My mortgage payment (including property tax escrow) and HOA dues add up to less than the $800/month mentioned in TFA.

Good on ya. You found what you wanted in Minneapolis, and chose to stay. This is what some folks here cannot grasp... if you are where you want to be and find what you want there, good. If what you want is somewhere else, then go there.


What he wants is sustainable for him and our society.

What's going on in LA? That's not sustainable.
 
2019-11-13 4:46:02 PM  

Marine1: If we stopped stigmatizing being an average Joe that works towards the advancement of society as a whole, we might be able to solve these problems.


No one is "stigmatizing" anything in this thread except for the people who are doing that to young people trying to follow what they want to do with their lives, even if they fail - and most will.
Do what it is you want. If what you want is working i a factory, do that. If what you want is to be a farmer, do that. But no one should be shat on for trying to accomplish what they want to do with the one life they get.
 
2019-11-13 4:47:26 PM  

Marine1: What he wants is sustainable for him and our society.


Then I ask you, if what you want is not in Minneapolis, why would you stay?
 
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