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(The New York Times)   The simplest explanation is the correct one, Republicans stand by Trump because they like what he does   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2019-10-08 11:53:08 AM  
... but will not tolerate a democrat president doing the same shiat.
 
2019-10-08 12:25:50 PM  
What we need is a good tsunami up the Potomac to wash all the corrupt Republicans out of Congress so we can start over with people who want to govern for the people rather than just for the rich people.
 
2019-10-08 01:11:00 PM  

MrBallou: What we need is a good tsunami up the Potomac to wash all the corrupt Republicans out of Congress so we can start over with people who want to govern for the people rather than just for the rich people.


Bribery has not only been legalized, now foreign countries can get in on the game.  All the tsunamis in the world can't wash away that amount of money.  We need to criminalize the bribing of politicians.
 
2019-10-08 02:08:33 PM  
"Republican lawmakers were sent to Washington to fight for spending cuts, lower taxes and conservative judges. Why would any of them stand against a president who has delivered on each count?"

This. If it weren't for his tweets, racism, narcissism, corruption, bribery, lack of intelligence, name calling, hate rallies, trade wars and tariffs, insulting allies while embracing dictators, surrounding himself with the worse people etc., Trump would just be a successful conservative president with a good economy fueled in part by tax cuts, while dismantling the liberal programs and polices conservatives have been dreaming to do for years, coasting towards re-election. Instead he keeps tweeting himself in the foot. He is his own worse enemy.
 
2019-10-08 02:24:02 PM  
More exactingly, Republican law makers consider the levels of benefit from spending cuts, lowering taxes, and conservative judicial appointments to outweigh the harms to minor things like the rule of law and US international influence. (His furtherance of racism may also be in the net-plus column.)

Contrariwise, part of this seems likely from fear, due to their electoral base's considering the levels of their perceived benefit from spending cuts, lowering taxes, and conservative judicial appointments (and perhaps increased ability to be openly racist) to outweigh the harms to minor things like the rule of law and US international influence.

Nohow, it seems likely that hypothetical-President Pence would do at least as well on most of those as Trump has. Therefore, merely positing "they like some of the stuff Trump did, and don't care about the rest" does not seem simpler than "they fear their voter base". Which, arguably, is somewhat proper in a system of representative government; the problem seems rather that their voter base is comprised of delusional self-destructive morons.
 
2019-10-08 02:37:03 PM  
"Republican lawmakers were sent to Washington to fight for spending cuts, lower taxes and conservative judges. Why would any of them stand against a president who has delivered on each count?"

They were also sent to help out the hallowed out working class and they haven't done that.
 
2019-10-08 02:55:10 PM  
Even if they don't like what he's done their voters do
 
2019-10-08 02:57:36 PM  
"Can he win?" is all that matters.  Immorality, graft, felony, treason, embarrassment, all can be overlooked.
 
2019-10-08 02:58:54 PM  
I don't think it's that simple. They've entered a suicide pact, and the GOP operatives didn't notice when they signed at first.

And they like that he's a weak, bumbling buffoon, who they can lead by the nose and trust to run interference when they're doing something nefarious.
 
2019-10-08 02:59:21 PM  
Can we STOP linking to the NY Times? Neither adblock nor incognito work. Unless there's another way to bypass it. (besides paying, smarta$$ses)
 
2019-10-08 03:00:04 PM  
The Democrats provide them no options.
 
2019-10-08 03:01:21 PM  
Well, pretty sure it's mostly because they don't want to get on the wrong side of Fox News.  The big difference between today and Nixon-era was Nixon didn't have a powerful conservative news network to scare allies into falling into line.
 
2019-10-08 03:01:35 PM  

Destructor: The Democrats provide them no options.


You're right, Republicans would never vote for a candidate that promises to treat brown people like human beings.
 
2019-10-08 03:01:51 PM  

damageddude: Instead he keeps tweeting himself in the foot. He is his own worse enemy.


Im not ready to sign off on this take until he suffers actual consequences from his tweets at least once.

Instead he just keeps rational people on a permanent state of anxiety, while his entire party has basically become 4chan.
 
2019-10-08 03:01:57 PM  
They like what he says he is going to do. This is usually entirely different from what actually happens.
 
2019-10-08 03:02:02 PM  
Pay walled should be its own category on Fark.
 
2019-10-08 03:02:38 PM  
Hanlon's Razor...
 
2019-10-08 03:03:14 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: MrBallou: What we need is a good tsunami up the Potomac to wash all the corrupt Republicans out of Congress so we can start over with people who want to govern for the people rather than just for the rich people.

Bribery has not only been legalized, now foreign countries can get in on the game.  All the tsunamis in the world can't wash away that amount of money.  We need to criminalize the bribing of politicians.


The starting list of what a bribe actually is would be 12,000 pages long in order to cover everything. By the time it got through to being a law it would have had so many loopholes poked through it by both sides, it would look like a scarf crocheted by a 6 year old. Totally sucks that this is the way it works, and it makes one feel as if there's no point in even trying to make things better.
 
2019-10-08 03:03:35 PM  
There was a study recently that showed "sticking it to the libs" was as popular as Trump's policies among Republican voters.
 
2019-10-08 03:04:05 PM  

The Civil Engineer: Well, pretty sure it's mostly because they don't want to get on the wrong side of Fox News.  The big difference between today and Nixon-era was Nixon didn't have a powerful conservative news network to scare allies into falling into line.


And the media we do have today seem far more interested in a horse race and BSAB style reporting.
 
2019-10-08 03:06:35 PM  

SpocksEars: Can we STOP linking to the NY Times? Neither adblock nor incognito work. Unless there's another way to bypass it. (besides paying, smarta$$ses)


Here's a free version, courtesy of msn.com.
 
2019-10-08 03:07:55 PM  
What he does is draw fire from the crap that the Senate... read that as McConnell... gets away with while undermining legislative democracy. And it doesn't hurt The Cause when he rules by fiat.
 
2019-10-08 03:08:15 PM  
They see what he is getting away with: concentration camps, human trafficking, the rape of the earth and economy for profit, the rollback of civil liberties and human rights, the selling-out of our democratic allies, and plan on doing exactly that at the very next opportunity.
Only with more competence.
 
2019-10-08 03:10:41 PM  
Well, that and we're tired of the three year impeachment drumbeat from the hypocrites on the left.
 
2019-10-08 03:10:46 PM  

Moodock: ... but will not tolerate a democrat president doing the same shiat.


Republicans would gladly trample over every right we have, except for the 2nd Amendment.
 
2019-10-08 03:11:14 PM  
I would make a slight correction, subby:

They like what they can get away with while he's distracting the masses.

It's like a real life zaphod beeblebrox.
 
2019-10-08 03:11:37 PM  

MrBallou: What we need is a good tsunami up the Potomac to wash all the corrupt Republicans out of Congress so we can start over with people who want to govern for the people rather than just for the rich people.


I've got some news for you. The GOPers long in office tend to be less corrupt than the newer ones. In other words, their replacements would be even worse.
 
2019-10-08 03:11:50 PM  

emersonbiggins: And the media we do have today seem far more interested in a horse race and BSAB style reporting.


I never understood why people criticize the media for portraying the elections as "horse races." They really are. Even 2012, which Obama won handily, was only like 4%.
 
2019-10-08 03:14:39 PM  
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2019-10-08 03:15:08 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Moodock: ... but will not tolerate a democrat president doing the same shiat.

Republicans would gladly trample over every right we have, except for the 2nd Amendment.


False.  They'll trample all the fark over that.  Watch them find ways to ensure everyone not in their "base" has a felony or fails to qualify for a discount on the permit cost or some other shiat.

Reagan led gun control because some black activists showed up in Sacramento open carrying.  The 2nd Amendment can be bent into whatever it needs to be.
 
2019-10-08 03:16:06 PM  
I say someone should buy up the land right in front of that Kid Rock "finger in the air" statue, and put up a statue of tRump, leaning forward in a oversized suit like a badly posed lego figure, so that it looks like the Kid Rock finger is flipping off and awkwardly posed tRump.
 
2019-10-08 03:19:51 PM  
Trump cut spending? LOLOLOL.

$1.2 Trillion Deficit disagrees.
 
2019-10-08 03:22:22 PM  
I'm sticking with kompromat.  They're all millionaires.  They can step away anytime with their millions, their connections, their pensions, their lifetime healthcare, and get the same job they would deny Hunter Biden: sitting on their asses getting paid millions to rubber stamp corporate psychopathy.  Who cares if they get primarried?
 
2019-10-08 03:22:49 PM  
It's perfectly acceptable to just call them horrible people and wash your hands of them. I promise it reduces the stress in your daily life.
 
2019-10-08 03:25:42 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Well, that and we're tired of the three year impeachment drumbeat from the hypocrites on the left.


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2019-10-08 03:31:00 PM  

DogParkSniper: It's perfectly acceptable to just call them horrible people and wash your hands of them. I promise it reduces the stress in your daily life.


A depressing amount of democrats insist on affording them forgiveness and understanding. It will be our undoing.
 
2019-10-08 03:33:21 PM  

Moodock: ... but will not tolerate a democrat president doing the same shiat.


Democratic presidents do not rubber-stamp idiot judges picked out by the Federalist Society. Democrat presidents do not push huge tax cuts weighted to the very wealthy. Democratic presidents to not gut the EPA, Department of Education, and sell off parks.
 
2019-10-08 03:34:43 PM  

max_pooper: Destructor: The Democrats provide them no options.

You're right, Republicans would never vote for a candidate that promises to treat brown people like human beings.


Well, they're all Nazis and white supremacists. So, yeah... Am I doing this right? Great.

On the other hand, I'd like to see Warren win the primary only to see how she pivots to the center. I'm sure she has a plan for that.
 
2019-10-08 03:37:16 PM  

Catlenfell: There was a study recently that showed "sticking it to the libs" was as popular as Trump's policies among Republican voters.


otherwise known as "cutting off your nose to spite your face" because they promise cuts to healthcare and food stamps to those illegals and every one of these chuckleheads are surprised that THEYRE included in the cuts.
 
2019-10-08 03:39:22 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: DogParkSniper: It's perfectly acceptable to just call them horrible people and wash your hands of them. I promise it reduces the stress in your daily life.

A depressing amount of democrats insist on affording them forgiveness and understanding. It will be our undoing.


not this Democrat. They get to wallow in the mud pit they dug for us, but instead fell in themselves.
 
2019-10-08 03:40:23 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: DogParkSniper: It's perfectly acceptable to just call them horrible people and wash your hands of them. I promise it reduces the stress in your daily life.

A depressing amount of democrats insist on affording them forgiveness and understanding. It will be our undoing.


If you give your enemy an avenue of escape, he'll panic and rout. If you don't leave any way of escape, that same man will fight to the death like the bravest soldier that ever lived.

Every general in the ancient world knew that.
 
2019-10-08 03:48:15 PM  
Since the beginning of his presidency, the number one thing your average Republican would say in order to sound reasonable and willing to criticize him, from politicians to local "man on the street" interviews would be some variation of "I wish he wouldn't Tweet so much."

Not, "I wish he didn't believe those things."

Just that it would be nice if he broadcast those beliefs a little less.
 
2019-10-08 03:52:03 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Snatch Bandergrip: DogParkSniper: It's perfectly acceptable to just call them horrible people and wash your hands of them. I promise it reduces the stress in your daily life.

A depressing amount of democrats insist on affording them forgiveness and understanding. It will be our undoing.

If you give your enemy an avenue of escape, he'll panic and rout. If you don't leave any way of escape, that same man will fight to the death like the bravest soldier that ever lived.

Every general in the ancient world knew that.


Every general in the ancient world also knew to give them something to fear if they didn't rout.
 
2019-10-08 03:55:22 PM  

SpocksEars: Can we STOP linking to the NY Times?


No. How does 'No' work for you?
 
2019-10-08 03:57:32 PM  

SpocksEars: Can we STOP linking to the NY Times? Neither adblock nor incognito work. Unless there's another way to bypass it. (besides paying, smarta$$ses)


Toss your cookies.

In Chrome - control+shift+delete then check "cookies and other site data" then press "clear data"
 
2019-10-08 04:00:42 PM  

BoothbyTCD: SpocksEars: Can we STOP linking to the NY Times?

No. How does 'No' work for you?


Hear that from your wife a lot, do ya'?
 
2019-10-08 04:01:26 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: SpocksEars: Can we STOP linking to the NY Times? Neither adblock nor incognito work. Unless there's another way to bypass it. (besides paying, smarta$$ses)

Toss your cookies.

In Chrome - control+shift+delete then check "cookies and other site data" then press "clear data"


Thanks, Dutchie, for that USEFUL response.
 
2019-10-08 04:08:42 PM  
I have been saying this in my academic work for a number of years, we are not electing enough lawyers to Congress.
 
2019-10-08 04:10:15 PM  

damageddude: "Republican lawmakers were sent to Washington to fight for spending cuts, lower taxes and conservative judges. Why would any of them stand against a president who has delivered on each count?"

This. If it weren't for his tweets, racism, narcissism, corruption, bribery, lack of intelligence, name calling, hate rallies, trade wars and tariffs, insulting allies while embracing dictators, surrounding himself with the worse people etc., Trump would just be a successful conservative president with a good economy fueled in part by tax cuts, while dismantling the liberal programs and polices conservatives have been dreaming to do for years, coasting towards re-election. Instead he keeps tweeting himself in the foot. He is his own worse enemy.


You write well for someone who is unaware of the word "worst."
 
2019-10-08 04:12:17 PM  

Walder_Frey: I have been saying this in my academic work for a number of years, we are not electing enough lawyers to Congress.


Yeah. Maybe people who have studied the law have no business making laws. It's a recipe for disaster.
 
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