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(Medium)   This just in: JK Rowling is a TERF. I can tell because of things she never said and from seeing a few TERFs in my day. YMMV; EABOD and DIAF   (medium.com) divider line
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2019-09-17 3:06:56 PM  
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2019-09-17 3:12:41 PM  
WTF did I just read?
 
2019-09-17 3:23:36 PM  
I hope nobody KHITBASH.
 
2019-09-17 3:24:32 PM  
I thought I stopped smoking pot two weeks ago.
"Can you blow me where the pampers is?"
 
2019-09-17 3:28:58 PM  
That's a heaping mess of whargarrbal to begin with, but also from back in June.
 
2019-09-17 3:29:58 PM  
I still like her.
 
2019-09-17 3:31:13 PM  
Guilt by "association"?
 
2019-09-17 3:32:33 PM  
I tried to comprehend TFA but I have no idea what they were trying to say.
 
2019-09-17 3:33:14 PM  
Does this person realize that there are hundreds of thousands of people around the globe that "follow" Donald Trump that don't agree with him?
 
2019-09-17 3:33:34 PM  
Trans people who formally identified as male, who now identify as female, have once raped women when they identified as male, but want to be in a women's prison now that they identify as female.

And JKR is against that.

Or am I missing something?
 
2019-09-17 3:35:25 PM  

PlaidJaguar: I tried to comprehend TFA but I have no idea what they were trying to say.


TERF=Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist

They're hostile towards treating transwomen as women.

JK Rowling has a pattern of Liking and Following them, while making Republicanesque excuses for it.
 
2019-09-17 3:35:33 PM  
UK trans activists are angry with JK Rowling because she liked a tweet about Karen White, a trans prisoner housed in a women's unit who raped two actual women because she still had a man's unit.
 
2019-09-17 3:37:08 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Trans people who formally identified as male, who now identify as female, have once raped women when they identified as male, but want to be in a women's prison now that they identify as female.

And JKR is against that.

Or am I missing something?


this sounds like more of a logic question from a bad community college philosophy class rather than an actual issue.

but heck i suppose anything is possible in this century.
 
2019-09-17 3:37:49 PM  
A saint on one issue is not a saint on all issues
 
2019-09-17 3:39:05 PM  
Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists are a weird corner case of lefty politics whose thinking I just can't follow.

But here's a VLOG by philosopher turned Trans-Advocate Natalie Wynn on who and what their deal is.

TERFs
Youtube AQPWI7cEJGs
 
2019-09-17 3:40:18 PM  
TERF wars?
 
2019-09-17 3:41:06 PM  

BorgiaGinz: UK trans activists are angry with JK Rowling because she liked a tweet about Karen White, a trans prisoner housed in a women's unit who raped two actual women because she still had a man's unit.


and there you go.  I have no idea how any of that works.

but your use of the term 'unit' was funny.
 
2019-09-17 3:44:18 PM  

Boojum2k: PlaidJaguar: I tried to comprehend TFA but I have no idea what they were trying to say.

TERF=Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist

They're hostile towards treating transwomen as women.

JK Rowling has a pattern of Liking and Following them, while making Republicanesque excuses for it.


Do we just take your word for this or are you offering some kind of proof?
 
2019-09-17 3:44:42 PM  
It's not just this prisoner thing, she's done a bunch of anti-trans tweets.

Never read her books but they are just for kids, and very over-rated
 
2019-09-17 3:44:51 PM  

Magnus: Boojum2k: PlaidJaguar: I tried to comprehend TFA but I have no idea what they were trying to say.

TERF=Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist

They're hostile towards treating transwomen as women.

JK Rowling has a pattern of Liking and Following them, while making Republicanesque excuses for it.

Do we just take your word for this or are you offering some kind of proof?


It's a summary of TFA.
 
2019-09-17 3:47:09 PM  
As much as I would like to comment on LGBTQ issues, I find myself poorly uninformed upon every single nuance the group says is an outrage and would more want for gather up all of these oversensitive people and stuff them in a room and not let them out until they decide definitively what is acceptable and what is unacceptable because I can only be outraged so much.
 
2019-09-17 3:49:50 PM  

gbv23: It's not just this prisoner thing, she's done a bunch of anti-trans tweets.

Never read her books but they are just for kids, and very over-rated


I have no experience with this thing, but trust me when I tell you my opinions on this thing. I know.
 
2019-09-17 3:52:02 PM  

gbv23: It's not just this prisoner thing, she's done a bunch of anti-trans tweets.

Never read her books but they are just for kids, and very over-rated


Approves

Stewart Lee on Harry Potter Books
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2019-09-17 3:52:12 PM  
TFA: JK Rowling is transphobic AF!

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2019-09-17 3:52:15 PM  
I thought reading the headline gave my brainmeats cancer, but then I tried to read TFA and I think I blacked out for a bit.
 
2019-09-17 3:53:22 PM  

Boojum2k: Magnus: Boojum2k: PlaidJaguar: I tried to comprehend TFA but I have no idea what they were trying to say.

TERF=Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist

They're hostile towards treating transwomen as women.

JK Rowling has a pattern of Liking and Following them, while making Republicanesque excuses for it.

Do we just take your word for this or are you offering some kind of proof?

It's a summary of TFA.


Ummm.  I'm not sure your editorializing is actually covered in the article, but whatever.
 
2019-09-17 3:57:05 PM  

rjakobi: gather up all of these oversensitive people and stuff them in a room and not let them out until they decide definitively what is acceptable and what is unacceptable because I can only be outraged so much.


It's literally never going to happen. There are broad groups for whom blanket terms like gay and lesbian are 100% acceptable as a descriptor of sexuality, but gender-as-identity-vs-genetics-vs-perf​ormative-behavior literally makes anyone who doesn't fit  in the binary assignments a (I mean this non-judgmentally) snowflake in terms of their lived experience. No one CAN have the lived experience of that other person and honestly no one else has a right to tell someone how to live in that regard, so there's never going to be 100% buy-in from that subset of humans.
 
2019-09-17 3:57:30 PM  

Magnus: Boojum2k: Magnus: Boojum2k: PlaidJaguar: I tried to comprehend TFA but I have no idea what they were trying to say.

TERF=Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist

They're hostile towards treating transwomen as women.

JK Rowling has a pattern of Liking and Following them, while making Republicanesque excuses for it.

Do we just take your word for this or are you offering some kind of proof?

It's a summary of TFA.

Ummm.  I'm not sure your editorializing is actually covered in the article, but whatever.


It's a summary for Fark of TFA.
 
2019-09-17 4:05:59 PM  
To an outside observer it looks like:

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2019-09-17 4:08:29 PM  

no1curr: WTF did I just read?


Okay, what the author is tryingto do is argue that JK Rowling is actively anti-Transgender.  TERF is "Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist", which is an acronym extremely stupid people use to refer to the rather fine distinction between proponents of womens' rights who are indifferent to whether Trans women can benefit from the legal protections for women or not.  While this isn't necessarily a philosophically invalid line to draw, and the argument over whether people who never suffered the relevant systemic setbacks that diversity initiatives are intended to counter actually merit those benefits is certainly an argument you can have over a beer or whatever... in practical terms this is a group that exists solely within the minds of idiots on TUMBLR.  The sheer vanishingly diminutive slice of the population involved in crossover between feminist issues and trans issues is in practical terms more properly just handled on a case by case basis.

What the author is actually doing is trying to accuse Rowling of some kind of "leftist heresy" to raise a figurative lynch mob, on the grounds of her hitting the like button on some random article that included some sort of incidental mention of the moot nonsense above, or at least implied such in the fevered imagination of TFAuthor's obsession causing her to see it in everything, all the time.  Notably this attempt is unsuccessful, because that's farking stupid.

So... basically it's a whole lot of nothing to the point that even if I successfully explained it (which I'm not entirely sure I did, given how meaningless this is) and you successfully comprehended it, your time both reading TFA and having it explained has still been wasted in its entirety and nothing of value was gained.  I'm sorry.

// The entire TERF distinction hinges on a critical failure to even understand how nondiscrimination rules and protected classes are structured to work in the first place; typical nondiscrimination laws and civil rules in both the US and the UK provide blanket-protection to classes, so an actual male-identifying man with a Y chromosome and everything could potentially sue or seek redress for actual offenses under any law that a woman, trans or otherwise, could.  While there certainly have been exceptions... generally arguing over this would be a stupid incremental step that's automatically bypassed by the logical larger reform.  E.g. should trans women be allowed marriage rights?  Doesn't farking matter, marriage reform means that no matter what the law "really" thinks your gender is you can now get married to your partner regardless.  Problem solved, quit bothering us.
 
2019-09-17 4:10:25 PM  

Boudyro: To an outside observer it looks like:

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And still find time to oppress men. You can't explain that
 
2019-09-17 4:17:35 PM  
What the hell is an "Opinionator,"?
 
2019-09-17 4:20:25 PM  

BorgiaGinz: UK trans activists are angry with JK Rowling because she liked a tweet about Karen White, a trans prisoner housed in a women's unit who raped two actual women because she still had a man's unit.


Because we don't put men convicted of raping men in a prison with lots of other men?

// I realize this isn't you making that argument
// I am also greatly saddened every time I'm reminded that Graham Linehan (creator of The IT Crowd) is a TERF as well
 
2019-09-17 4:24:03 PM  
TERFs make me sad. If my dogs don't care about my gender identity then why should they? People are farking animals, and not in a good way.
 
2019-09-17 4:35:15 PM  

BorgiaGinz: UK trans activists are angry with JK Rowling because she liked a tweet about Karen White, a trans prisoner housed in a women's unit who raped two actual women because she still had a man's unit.


I thought transwomen were actual women.
 
2019-09-17 4:36:38 PM  
Here you go.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jk-​r​owling-transphobia-transgender/

This entire fooforaw is entirely based on liking a tweet by a person which may or may not have had anything to do with anything. I think what we have here is some internet bullying to try to force Rowling to come out in vocal support of something. This ENTIRE shiatstorm features not even one sentence or even a farking word from Rowling on the issue at hand. Just seventeen articles from angry people saying she has confirmed a stance she never out forth in the first place.

Indeed she may actually hate transgender people. Seems unlikely but hey, she ain't shy. She'll tell us if she feels strongly enough to say something about it.

Also, I have confirmed JK Rowling HATES Jammie Dodgers. I have repeatedly asked her to refute that she hates Jammie Dodgers but she continues to confirm that she does by ignoring the issue at every turn.
 
2019-09-17 4:37:25 PM  

This text is now purple: BorgiaGinz: UK trans activists are angry with JK Rowling because she liked a tweet about Karen White, a trans prisoner housed in a women's unit who raped two actual women because she still had a man's unit.

I thought transwomen were actual women.


In terms of sex or gender?
 
2019-09-17 4:37:59 PM  

geduld: TERFs make me sad. If my dogs don't care about my gender identity then why should they? People are farking animals, and not in a good way.


I'm under the impression that it's a case of "If they had a different set of struggles than me, they got in the club for free and skipped paying the dues" but I say that as someone who has mostly seen it from being in that particular corner of Tumblr sometimes.
 
2019-09-17 4:39:00 PM  

Enomai: This text is now purple: BorgiaGinz: UK trans activists are angry with JK Rowling because she liked a tweet about Karen White, a trans prisoner housed in a women's unit who raped two actual women because she still had a man's unit.

I thought transwomen were actual women.

In terms of sex or gender?


Let's go with sex, because rape isn't having unlawful gender.
 
2019-09-17 4:39:24 PM  
Author isn't vaguely famous enough to get readership for her blog.  Drags a famous author into her narrative.

A rapist trans to female, while in prison, transferring to a woman's prison would seem to be a clumsy attempt to rape more women.  I can see why the non-naive would consider this as a potential problem.

I'd think every situation that differs slightly would need to be looked at on it's own merits... so don't "whatabout me."
 
2019-09-17 4:39:52 PM  

likefunbutnot: geduld: TERFs make me sad. If my dogs don't care about my gender identity then why should they? People are farking animals, and not in a good way.

I'm under the impression that it's a case of "If they had a different set of struggles than me, they got in the club for free and skipped paying the dues" but I say that as someone who has mostly seen it from being in that particular corner of Tumblr sometimes.


You see the same turf wars between American-born blacks and African-born blacks.
 
2019-09-17 4:40:06 PM  
Is real nonsense like this that makes me understand why some people can't see Titania McGrath is a parody.


/ Poe's Law
// Free Tits!
 
2019-09-17 4:42:07 PM  
Linda Richman:  JK Rowling is neither trans exclusionary nor a radical feminist.  Discuss.
 
2019-09-17 4:44:25 PM  

likefunbutnot: geduld: TERFs make me sad. If my dogs don't care about my gender identity then why should they? People are farking animals, and not in a good way.

I'm under the impression that it's a case of "If they had a different set of struggles than me, they got in the club for free and skipped paying the dues" but I say that as someone who has mostly seen it from being in that particular corner of Tumblr sometimes.


That's my read on it but, and this is the part that always gets me into trouble, people have the right to determine their ability to reproduce or not or whether their partners have the genitals that they want to interact with. Lesbians who don't want to date pre-op transwomen aren't TERFs to me, even though they sometimes get labelled as such. Same for straight men. We don't all seem to agree on this point and then the name-calling starts.
 
2019-09-17 4:47:01 PM  

This text is now purple: likefunbutnot: geduld: TERFs make me sad. If my dogs don't care about my gender identity then why should they? People are farking animals, and not in a good way.

I'm under the impression that it's a case of "If they had a different set of struggles than me, they got in the club for free and skipped paying the dues" but I say that as someone who has mostly seen it from being in that particular corner of Tumblr sometimes.

You see the same turf wars between American-born blacks and African-born blacks.


I'm good friends with a Jamaican native who genuinely resents being lumped together with African Americans. She says she can't even explain to them why most of their assumptions about her life are wrong, like there's only one way to be black.

Not to say she isn't black and not to say transwomen aren't women. Both are just great examples of not everyone following the same path.
 
2019-09-17 4:54:47 PM  
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2019-09-17 5:00:23 PM  

Fano: A saint on one issue is not a saint on all issues


Seems nowadays that anything less than a saint on any issue is a devil on all issues.
 
2019-09-17 5:00:39 PM  

Xythero: Linda Richman:  JK Rowling is neither trans exclusionary nor a radical feminist.  Discuss.


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2019-09-17 5:01:04 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Here you go.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jk-r​owling-transphobia-transgender/

This entire fooforaw is entirely based on liking a tweet by a person which may or may not have had anything to do with anything. I think what we have here is some internet bullying to try to force Rowling to come out in vocal support of something. This ENTIRE shiatstorm features not even one sentence or even a farking word from Rowling on the issue at hand. Just seventeen articles from angry people saying she has confirmed a stance she never out forth in the first place.

Indeed she may actually hate transgender people. Seems unlikely but hey, she ain't shy. She'll tell us if she feels strongly enough to say something about it.

Also, I have confirmed JK Rowling HATES Jammie Dodgers. I have repeatedly asked her to refute that she hates Jammie Dodgers but she continues to confirm that she does by ignoring the issue at every turn.


Oh, like Glenn Beck and the girl.
 
2019-09-17 5:05:52 PM  
I find it hard to believe Rowling spendd enough time on her golden toilet to throughly vette the Twitter profiles that post an article she decided she liked while waiting for the delivery 1200 count Egyptian toilet paper she uses.
 
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