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(Yahoo)   The New York Times is in trouble for reporting something Trump said without reporting the things he really meant or the things he should have said. We can't have a newspaper running around just, like, REPORTING stuff   (yahoo.com) divider line
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2019-08-06 6:08:15 AM  
Purposefully selective reporting is one means of lying. It's sometimes called cherry picking.
Telling the story of all the times a husband brought his wife flowers and gifts and omitting the times he beat her and sent her to the hospital is not honest reporting.
 
2019-08-06 6:24:50 AM  
people are getting tired of the bullshiat and lies.  people are dead, the President clearly doesn't give a f*ck and things are getting worse, not better.

the lies aren't going to work anymore, and it won't matter what excuses the news media gives.  people want answers, and they want the federal government to do its gotdamn job.  telling them 'both sides are equally bad' is only going to make everyone even MORE angry, not less.
 
2019-08-06 6:25:26 AM  
Headlines are the best example of "the words that fit, we print." They are often misleading, untrue, or have no relationship to the actual article text. In other words,

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2019-08-06 6:35:55 AM  

wademh: Purposefully selective reporting is one means of lying. It's sometimes called cherry picking.
Telling the story of all the times a husband brought his wife flowers and gifts and omitting the times he beat her and sent her to the hospital is not honest reporting.


Bingo.
 
2019-08-06 6:49:04 AM  

wademh: Purposefully selective reporting is one means of lying. It's sometimes called cherry picking.
Telling the story of all the times a husband brought his wife flowers and gifts and omitting the times he beat her and sent her to the hospital is not honest reporting.


perfect example.
 
2019-08-06 6:53:56 AM  
I have no idea why the news media keeps giving Trump and the GOP the benefit of the doubt and/or softball headlines/coverage.  money/access?  maybe....but seems like a good way to piss off your subscriber base.  I understand that the NYT is already seeing a lot of subscribers bail on their publication and this headline hasn't even hit newsstands yet.

the problem the media has is that they have an institutional desire to walk down the middle of the road....but with the mood the country is in right now - that's an excellent way to get run over.  so how does the media balance a (largely academic and slightly esoteric) desire to stay as neutral as possible while at the same time admitting that Trump is the worst leader this country has seen since Nixon and is very probably mentally or emotionally unstable...?  Because there really is no middle ground here anymore.  There's something WRONG with trump, and we cannot ignore that fact any longer.  there's no way to cover this up, or put a positive spin on any of it.

got me man.  I just live here.
 
2019-08-06 7:11:26 AM  

Weaver95: the problem the media has is that they have an institutional desire to walk down the middle of the road....but with the mood the country is in right now - that's an excellent way to get run over.


"There's nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow line and dead armadillos" Jim Hightower
 
2019-08-06 7:23:59 AM  
This morning's USA Today quotes Trump: 'Hate has no place'..

Anyone buy it?
 
2019-08-06 7:24:26 AM  
There's no benefit of the doubt left for conservatives.
 
2019-08-06 7:32:01 AM  
This is what happens when you carry water for Twitter.  Huff Post reruns it.  Yahoo reruns your rerun.
 
2019-08-06 7:32:05 AM  
Damn NYT mods picked the worst headline. Good thing we don't have to worry about that here.
 
2019-08-06 7:33:38 AM  
It works better with a subhead: "YES, THAT TRUMP.  NO, REALLY.  STOP LAUGHING."
 
2019-08-06 7:33:39 AM  
The NYT farked up hard. The headline choice was absurd, since it took Trump's isolated statements at face value while completely ignoring the swarm of context and past statements that undermine its sentiment. It's criminally credulous.
 
2019-08-06 7:34:29 AM  
Trump is a symptom of our nation's disease, but the media is part of the actual infection.
 
2019-08-06 7:35:40 AM  
If this is why you're cancelling your NYT subscription, then you're not reading it very closely.

I'm a subscriber who's been tempted to cancel a number of times over the last couple of years.
 
2019-08-06 7:35:59 AM  
The headline was too short. It omitted ...despite long history of racism and division.
 
2019-08-06 7:37:40 AM  
The media has been cowed by decades of fake claims of bias from the right. They're willing to report 2 + 2 but are afraid of calling it 4. Which makes it easier for conmen to say it's 5.
 
2019-08-06 7:37:48 AM  
President Racist: Unity!
 
2019-08-06 7:38:58 AM  
The Republican background check bill will include extreme vetting of all media members to ensure no liberals have these jobs and can no longer corrupt our young people's minds.
 
2019-08-06 7:40:52 AM  
The NYT is a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporate media so they'll spin the story as directed. Corporations love them some Trump so don't expect the lamestream media to call him out any time soon.
 
2019-08-06 7:42:42 AM  

Weaver95: I have no idea why the news media keeps giving Trump and the GOP the benefit of the doubt and/or softball headlines/coverage.  money/access?  maybe....but seems like a good way to piss off your subscriber base.  I understand that the NYT is already seeing a lot of subscribers bail on their publication and this headline hasn't even hit newsstands yet.

the problem the media has is that they have an institutional desire to walk down the middle of the road....but with the mood the country is in right now - that's an excellent way to get run over.  so how does the media balance a (largely academic and slightly esoteric) desire to stay as neutral as possible while at the same time admitting that Trump is the worst leader this country has seen since Nixon and is very probably mentally or emotionally unstable...?  Because there really is no middle ground here anymore.  There's something WRONG with trump, and we cannot ignore that fact any longer.  there's no way to cover this up, or put a positive spin on any of it.

got me man.  I just live here.


Because people say they just want facts without spin or bias, then apply their own spin and bias to the headlines they get anyway. The media wants to walk down the center because it can't afford to be seen as biased, and expects you to read between the lines.

It's like when people complain that the media gave Trump free advertising by having him on all the time during the campaign. I could argue what they were actually doing was allowing him to repeatedly demonstrate why he wasn't fit for office, but people voted for him anyway.
 
2019-08-06 7:44:40 AM  

ElmoClyde: The NYT is a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporate media so they'll spin the story as directed. Corporations love them some Trump so don't expect the lamestream media to call him out any time soon.


See the other 99% of media for lamestream anti-Trump reporting.
 
2019-08-06 7:45:56 AM  
So the newspaper that Trumpers call fake news, prints a completely disingenuous headline that Trumpers are now rushing to defend.

We now have definitive proof that the only thing a Trumper will believe is an actual lie.
 
2019-08-06 7:47:17 AM  

eiger: If this is why you're cancelling your NYT subscription, then you're not reading it very closely.

I'm a subscriber who's been tempted to cancel a number of times over the last couple of years.


You could toss this on the pile as another reason to stop giving them money,
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/​n​y-times-apparently-thinks-there-are-so​me-good-white-supremacists/
 
2019-08-06 7:48:22 AM  

Unobtanium: Headlines are the best example of "the words that fit, we print." They are often misleading, untrue, or have no relationship to the actual article text. In other words,

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Nah fark it, just use the biggest font:

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2019-08-06 7:49:49 AM  
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(Stolen from Josh Marshall)

They keep hoping that Trump giving a measured, market-tested response to an event means he's finally come around and has settled into the role he was elected to.

Within 72 hours any criticism he received for how his words do not reflect his actions will get to him and he will disavow his statements yesterday because he is angry he isn't getting enough credit for being a statesman.
 
2019-08-06 7:50:28 AM  

Deep Contact: ElmoClyde: The NYT is a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporate media so they'll spin the story as directed. Corporations love them some Trump so don't expect the lamestream media to call him out any time soon.

See the other 99% of media for lamestream anti-Trump reporting.


So you should only report good things about Trump?
 
2019-08-06 7:51:14 AM  

Alphax: This morning's USA Today quotes Trump: 'Hate has no place'..

Anyone buy it?


Hotels
 
2019-08-06 7:52:23 AM  
So, I this what he means by "Fake News"?
 
2019-08-06 7:52:28 AM  

Grungehamster: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x1134]

(Stolen from Josh Marshall)

They keep hoping that Trump giving a measured, market-tested response to an event means he's finally come around and has settled into the role he was elected to.

Within 72 hours any criticism he received for how his words do not reflect his actions will get to him and he will disavow his statements yesterday because he is angry he isn't getting enough credit for being a statesman.


If you look at his Twitter feed today you realize that 72 hours is more like 12
 
2019-08-06 7:52:50 AM  
 New York Times headline accurately reflects the Presidents words.


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2019-08-06 7:52:53 AM  

TomTudbury: So, I this what he means by "Fake News"?


*is, not I
 
2019-08-06 7:53:23 AM  

theteacher: Alphax: This morning's USA Today quotes Trump: 'Hate has no place'..

Anyone buy it?

Hotels


(working, posting from a hotel)  Well played.
 
2019-08-06 7:54:10 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: New York Times headline accurately reflects the Presidents words.


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some of

 
2019-08-06 7:58:20 AM  
I don't have a prob with headline. I'd put the story below the fold on page 9, though.
 
2019-08-06 8:00:40 AM  

wademh: Purposefully selective reporting is one means of lying. It's sometimes called cherry picking.
Telling the story of all the times a husband brought his wife flowers and gifts and omitting the times he beat her and sent her to the hospital is not honest reporting.


Donald Trump sends Melanie flowers and/or beats her?
 
2019-08-06 8:01:36 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: New York Times headline accurately reflects the Presidents words.


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I suppose if you don't have a functioning brain, that's a fair reaction.
 
2019-08-06 8:05:47 AM  
You can cancel your subscription at any time by contacting Customer Care. If you are in the United States, please call 1-800-NYTIMES (1-800-698-4637). If you are outside of the United States, click here to find the Customer Care phone number serving your country.
 
2019-08-06 8:07:25 AM  
Just wait if the economy continues to decline, the NYT and the rest of the MSM will slowly start calling Trump out on his racism.
 
2019-08-06 8:08:14 AM  
 
2019-08-06 8:08:17 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: If you look at his Twitter feed today you realize that 72 hours is more like 12


I certainly enjoyed the part where he misspelled his own name.
Less so where he threatened Google with .. something ... if they're not nicer to him.
I guess this is how NYT get's by with just being 'fake news' and not 'very illegal'
 
2019-08-06 8:10:27 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: New York Times headline accurately reflects the Presidents words.


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someone failed to read the thread before shiatposting...

//it was you.
 
2019-08-06 8:12:37 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: New York Times headline accurately reflects the Presidents words.


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His actions are screeching on Twitter about Obama.
 
2019-08-06 8:18:49 AM  

karnal: You can cancel your subscription at any time by contacting Customer Care. If you are in the United States, please call 1-800-NYTIMES (1-800-698-4637). If you are outside of the United States, click here to find the Customer Care phone number serving your country.


To cancel your NRA membership:

If you do wish to cancel  you can do so at any time by calling 1-800-672-3888
 
2019-08-06 8:19:49 AM  
As if cancelling your subscription means anything.
 
2019-08-06 8:23:15 AM  

elminestrone: They just changed it fyi https://mobile.twitter.com/TomJoll​y/status/1158561438602027009


Well now the head doesn't go with the pic. It suggests that the mourners are doing the assailing etc.
 
2019-08-06 8:25:28 AM  
Huh. So this is what gets the New York Times to fail.
 
2019-08-06 8:25:52 AM  

BitwiseShift: karnal: You can cancel your subscription at any time by contacting Customer Care. If you are in the United States, please call 1-800-NYTIMES (1-800-698-4637). If you are outside of the United States, click here to find the Customer Care phone number serving your country.

To cancel your NRA membership:

If you do wish to cancel  you can do so at any time by calling 1-800-672-3888


Nothing to see here - just another Liberal hating on the Second Amendment
 
2019-08-06 8:27:47 AM  
The New York Times has reporter's?
 
2019-08-06 8:27:48 AM  

AsparagusFTW: As if cancelling your subscription means anything.


If enough people do it, it does
 
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