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2019-06-24 09:46:54 AM  
This is a country that building nuclear weapons or not?

Funny headline but a lot of people actually believe that backasswards stuff. They will be more than a little surprised to see how well Iran does in a war with Uncle Sam.
 
2019-06-24 10:00:11 AM  
I know America can be pretty backwards. But you've mostly moved on from slates and chalk.

/also racist headline is racist
 
2019-06-24 10:35:45 AM  
Trump ordered the cyber attack to act tough, when it's the sort of thing you really want to reserve for, you know, a real attack.  Because you can only use it once.
 
2019-06-24 10:38:54 AM  
Stuxnet says hello
 
2019-06-24 10:52:47 AM  
Two days later, Mahmoud Ahmedinejad gets doxxed.
 
2019-06-24 10:53:09 AM  
To be fair, their entire government could literally be on fire but they'd still deny it to the west...
 
2019-06-24 10:53:42 AM  

edmo: This is a country that building nuclear weapons or not?

Funny headline but a lot of people actually believe that backasswards stuff. They will be more than a little surprised to see how well Iran does in a war with Uncle Sam.


It would be preferable for them to not have those ideas challenged. They'll still believe it, it's just that a bunch of people will have died needlessly in the process.
 
2019-06-24 10:53:47 AM  
This headline is the same kind of no-thought  racist shiat we were saying about Iraq and Afghanistan when we went to liberate the shiat out of them. We're still cleaning up those messes.
 
2019-06-24 10:55:56 AM  

edmo: This is a country that building nuclear weapons or not?

Funny headline but a lot of people actually believe that backasswards stuff. They will be more than a little surprised to see how well Iran does in a war with Uncle Sam.


I think you'd be surprised how much you can do with decentralized systems if you were really no shiat serious about security.  you dont need to have the whole team on slack and github for a project to function.  and lets be real here, every government on earth knows how to build a nuke.  there's no new research being done here.  these are engineering and shop floor challenges, not development challenges.
 
2019-06-24 10:56:27 AM  
Kinda wish Mattis was still SecDef right about now
 
2019-06-24 10:56:59 AM  
I don't know.  It looks like their smart cars are pretty messed up...

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2019-06-24 10:57:12 AM  
I'm fairly certain subby hasn't left the country and doesn't realize how embarrassingly backwards the US is in the 21st century...
 
2019-06-24 11:00:30 AM  
I'm fairly certain Tehran is a pretty modern city if any of you mouth-breathers would bother to step out from under that rock.

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2019-06-24 11:01:41 AM  
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2019-06-24 11:02:11 AM  
I'm impressed at the level of rage from people over the joke in headline.

Subby gonna get shoes thrown at em.
 
2019-06-24 11:03:47 AM  

FarkBucket18: I'm fairly certain Tehran is a pretty modern city if any of you mouth-breathers would bother to step out from under that rock.

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Mouth breathers, eh?

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2019-06-24 11:04:03 AM  

Contribution Corsair: I'm impressed at the level of rage from people over the joke in headline.

Subby gonna get shoes thrown at em.


ITT: People who can't distinguish racism from Nationalism
 
2019-06-24 11:05:26 AM  
Iran: shoots down spy plane, bombs oil tankers.
US: deletes Iran's browser bookmarks and has the computer make fart noises when it boots up.

LOL I HAXX0R U!!!!
 
2019-06-24 11:05:29 AM  
Hope this doesn't mess up their delivery systems like UPasS....

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2019-06-24 11:07:02 AM  
Iran also says gays should be killed and women should wear hijab.
 
2019-06-24 11:07:04 AM  
Headline isn't racist, just a little bigoted is all. I mean, does Persian count as a race?
 
2019-06-24 11:07:57 AM  

cowgirl toffee: Hope this doesn't mess up their delivery systems like UPasS....

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Now that is hella efficient.
 
2019-06-24 11:08:53 AM  

FarkBucket18: I'm fairly certain Tehran is a pretty modern city if any of you mouth-breathers would bother to step out from under that rock.

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It was more so when the Shah was in power. That's still a travesty the Islamic Revolution occured. Google search Iran in the 70s and compare to today.
 
2019-06-24 11:09:43 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I'm fairly certain subby hasn't left the country and doesn't realize how embarrassingly backwards the US is in the 21st century...


CSB:
I currently live near Toronto and take a commuter train system (called "GO Transit") into work.   I have a little card that I tap on a machine that auto-deducts the fare from a pool of funds tied to my card (called a 'Presto' card).      When the funds fall below a certain threshold, a transaction is automatically initiated from the Presto website to get funds from my bank account.   I never have to talk to anyone ever for purchasing a ticket to travel transit.  By the way, Presto works on the buses as well.

So two years ago the wife and I visited the Boston / Salem area (stayed in Salem).   One day we decided to take the train into Boston, as per what our handy travel book said.    We get to the Salem train station... and no way to purchase tickets.   No machines, no manned wickets, nothing.   We as a person waiting about how we get tickets.  They said "You buy them on the train.  Cash only."  Ok.....

So the train arrives and we hop on.   First thing:  the interior of the train looks like something I would have rode to visit grandma back in the early 1980's.    But what blew our mind was that there was an actual Conductor, complete with little hat and change belt (!) who we had to buy tickets from.   And our tickets were some piece of paper that he he had to physically hole-punch with a tool from his belt.   The cash only part was just icing on the retro cake.

Overall, it surprised the hell out of me that a transit system servicing a major area seemed stuck hard in the mid-1980's.   I expect all those conductors will lose their jobs in a few years when someone wakes up and automates the system...  maybe.
 
2019-06-24 11:12:47 AM  

ObscureNameHere: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I'm fairly certain subby hasn't left the country and doesn't realize how embarrassingly backwards the US is in the 21st century...

CSB:
I currently live near Toronto and take a commuter train system (called "GO Transit") into work.   I have a little card that I tap on a machine that auto-deducts the fare from a pool of funds tied to my card (called a 'Presto' card).      When the funds fall below a certain threshold, a transaction is automatically initiated from the Presto website to get funds from my bank account.   I never have to talk to anyone ever for purchasing a ticket to travel transit.  By the way, Presto works on the buses as well.

So two years ago the wife and I visited the Boston / Salem area (stayed in Salem).   One day we decided to take the train into Boston, as per what our handy travel book said.    We get to the Salem train station... and no way to purchase tickets.   No machines, no manned wickets, nothing.   We as a person waiting about how we get tickets.  They said "You buy them on the train.  Cash only."  Ok.....

So the train arrives and we hop on.   First thing:  the interior of the train looks like something I would have rode to visit grandma back in the early 1980's.    But what blew our mind was that there was an actual Conductor, complete with little hat and change belt (!) who we had to buy tickets from.   And our tickets were some piece of paper that he he had to physically hole-punch with a tool from his belt.   The cash only part was just icing on the retro cake.

Overall, it surprised the hell out of me that a transit system servicing a major area seemed stuck hard in the mid-1980's.   I expect all those conductors will lose their jobs in a few years when someone wakes up and automates the system...  maybe.


If you think that's bad, just imagine what it was like to spend the summer in China and never have to use anything but my phone to purchase anything I wanted. Needed a bike to ride? Just scan a QR code with AliPay and off I go for 1 RMB. Want to buy some street food? Just scan a QR code with WeChatPay and grabbed a few skewers for a snack. 

Come back to the US and people are literally protesting cashless stores. America is inhabited by a bunch of troglodytes that - I'm quite certain - have begun to mate exclusively with vegetables.
 
2019-06-24 11:13:29 AM  

ObscureNameHere: I expect all those conductors will lose their jobs in a few years when someone wakes up and automates the system...  maybe.


And that's why it will never happen. Besides, Conductors were and still are relevant. The Democrat controlled City would rather spend money elsewhere for a system that still works. If they make any attempt to remove them and replace with automations, the Boston Dems will be in major shiat from the Blue Collar City employees.
 
2019-06-24 11:15:45 AM  

edmo: This is a country that building nuclear weapons or not?

Funny headline but a lot of people actually believe that backasswards stuff. They will be more than a little surprised to see how well Iran does in a war with Uncle Sam.


They aren't. We knew they weren't because we could give their nuclear program an unlimited rectal exam so thorough we gave them a dental cleaning at the same time. The increase in production is something they need to do in order to keep their nuclear power plants running, and is far below what they would need to build nuclear weapons. It's like a 0.15% increase or something.
 
2019-06-24 11:15:55 AM  
Iran has a top 10 cyberwarfare capability themselves, and they have used it many times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamoon​
 
2019-06-24 11:16:32 AM  

cowgirl toffee: I don't know.  It looks like their smart cars are pretty messed up...

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Suck it naysayers, Fark *is* my personal erotica site!

/I typed the quiet part out loud
 
2019-06-24 11:17:02 AM  

FarkBucket18: ObscureNameHere: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I'm fairly certain subby hasn't left the country and doesn't realize how embarrassingly backwards the US is in the 21st century...

CSB:
I currently live near Toronto and take a commuter train system (called "GO Transit") into work.   I have a little card that I tap on a machine that auto-deducts the fare from a pool of funds tied to my card (called a 'Presto' card).      When the funds fall below a certain threshold, a transaction is automatically initiated from the Presto website to get funds from my bank account.   I never have to talk to anyone ever for purchasing a ticket to travel transit.  By the way, Presto works on the buses as well.

So two years ago the wife and I visited the Boston / Salem area (stayed in Salem).   One day we decided to take the train into Boston, as per what our handy travel book said.    We get to the Salem train station... and no way to purchase tickets.   No machines, no manned wickets, nothing.   We as a person waiting about how we get tickets.  They said "You buy them on the train.  Cash only."  Ok.....

So the train arrives and we hop on.   First thing:  the interior of the train looks like something I would have rode to visit grandma back in the early 1980's.    But what blew our mind was that there was an actual Conductor, complete with little hat and change belt (!) who we had to buy tickets from.   And our tickets were some piece of paper that he he had to physically hole-punch with a tool from his belt.   The cash only part was just icing on the retro cake.

Overall, it surprised the hell out of me that a transit system servicing a major area seemed stuck hard in the mid-1980's.   I expect all those conductors will lose their jobs in a few years when someone wakes up and automates the system...  maybe.

If you think that's bad, just imagine what it was like to spend the summer in China and never have to use anything but my phone to purchase anything I wanted. Needed a bike to ride? Just ...


Some people would rather not have their cash system be completely beholden to system that can still be hacked and tracked or broken. Some people don't have to have to have a phone that you have to pay a monthly fee for the priviliege of owning and paying off a phone payment too when they are strapped for funds in the first place. Also, WeChat while it's convienent, is ALWAYS tracked by the CCP to monitor it's citizens.

Having cash gives you more freedom and privacy. Don't always assume that just because people don't do things your way doesn't mean it's bad or without it's reasons.
 
2019-06-24 11:18:46 AM  

FarkBucket18: ObscureNameHere: MusicMakeMyHeadPound: I'm fairly certain subby hasn't left the country and doesn't realize how embarrassingly backwards the US is in the 21st century...


If you think that's bad, just imagine what it was like to spend the summer in China and never have to use anything but my phone to purchase anything I wanted. Needed a bike to ride? Just ...


Ssssh!   Don't tell them about Africa either.....

https://businesstoday.co.ke/ejijipay-​i​mproves-nairobi-residents-lives-better​/
 
2019-06-24 11:19:28 AM  
ahh, fark, where someone refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple are the scourge of the planet, but will white night cultures that outright murder them
 
2019-06-24 11:21:18 AM  
News reporter to the Shah.
" Sir, what did you do when the revolution began?"
Shah. " I ran."
 
2019-06-24 11:22:00 AM  

HumanSVD: Some people would rather not have their cash system be completely beholden to system that can still be hacked and tracked or broken. Some people don't have to have to have a phone that you have to pay a monthly fee for the priviliege of owning and paying off a phone payment too when they are strapped for funds in the first place. Also, WeChat while it's convienent, is ALWAYS tracked by the CCP to monitor it's citizens.

Having cash gives you more freedom and privacy. Don't always assume that just because people don't do things your way doesn't mean it's bad or without it's reasons.


Again, don't be surprised when the rest of the world passes the US by because you're intent in keeping your antiquated ways. Just imagine how horrific the interstate system would be if we required it to be backwards compatible with horses and buggies because some people don't do things "our" way. 

Progress is inevitable. Sticking your feet in the sand and biatching because people are willing to give up privacy for convenience isn't a sustainable position to take in the 21st century and enacting laws to prevent that progress is the same backwards thinking as trying to enact legislation to save the thousands of farrier jobs that were lost with the creation of the horseless carriage.
 
2019-06-24 11:22:09 AM  

Contribution Corsair: I'm impressed at the level of rage from people over the joke in headline.



Outrage addiction needs a regular fix.
 
2019-06-24 11:25:52 AM  

Parthenogenetic: cowgirl toffee: I don't know.  It looks like their smart cars are pretty messed up...

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Suck it naysayers, Fark *is* my personal erotica site!

/I typed the quiet part out loud


This makes my little ass happy.  :)

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2019-06-24 11:32:36 AM  
Trump's idea of a cyber attack against Iran is probably to have Barron hurl insults at people he presumes to be a-rabs on cod or league of legends or whatever shiatstains play these days. He probably ended up teabagging his own corpse.
 
2019-06-24 11:33:12 AM  
Subby must be one of those Trumpers who hasn't stepped out of his bubble of ignorance in decades.

Iran's military isn't like Iraq's. It's modern and very strong. War with them would be a LOT worse than Iraq was.
 
2019-06-24 11:40:54 AM  

FarkBucket18: Sticking your feet in the sand and biatching because people are willing to give up privacy for convenience isn't a sustainable position to take in the 21st century


It absolutely is a reason to keep cash, privacy is never a bad thing. Having nicer trains is not an absolute  measurement of advancement, espescially in acountry that does not heavily rely on trains for passenger transportation with the exception of freight.

Could the system of Boston possibly spruce it up and make it a bit easier? Possibly, but until Bostonians make that a priority, it won't change, espescially when conductors do more than just punch tickets. Money has to be spent somewhere and apparently the train system isn't a priority, especially for a foreigner's convenience.

Just imagine how horrific the interstate system would be if we required it to be backwards compatible with horses and buggies because some people don't do things "our" way.

Hyperbole statments isn't making your position strong.
 
2019-06-24 11:44:02 AM  
I think trumps idea of a 'cyber attack' is someone here 'replying all' to an erroneous email.
 
2019-06-24 11:44:21 AM  
I don't get all the comments about Boston. I use the T all the time and buy the tickets on my phone with the MBTA app. Then you just flash your phone to the guy going by. Almost nobody actually gives the guy cash that I see except for a couple day trippers.
 
2019-06-24 11:45:14 AM  

Contribution Corsair: I'm impressed at the level of rage from people over the joke in headline.


Rage is entirely the wrong word for it, more like disgusted disappointment really. It's depressing. The joke is on the Mike Huckabee level of unfunny and dumb.
 
2019-06-24 11:48:48 AM  

HumanSVD: Hyperbole statments isn't making your position strong.


That isn't hyperbole. I live 5 minutes from one of the largest settlements of Amish in the country and there is a constant battle between their rights to drive their horses and buggies on public roadways and the right of motorists to travel on rural roadways at speeds 6-10x as fast. When the two meet, things don't usually end up going well for anyone involved. 

That said, Ohio has banned them from interstate highways - for both obvious and good reasons. When the Amish want to travel longer distances, they can get a Greyhound, not hold up traffic for 200 miles. 

If you want to use cash, nobody is saying you can't. However, laws that enforce restrictions on cashless businesses (see: Baltimore) are both anti-progress and stupid. Nobody should be forced to accept your antiquated methods of doing business - in the same way that we don't require CVS or the local grocery to accept gold as a method of payment. 

Nobody says you can't use gold to do your daily business transactions, but nobody forces retailers to accept it either. Same with cash. Nobody says you can't use cash to do your daily business transactions, but laws forcing stores to accept cash is just anti-progress.
 
2019-06-24 11:51:01 AM  

groovybomb: I don't get all the comments about Boston. I use the T all the time and buy the tickets on my phone with the MBTA app. Then you just flash your phone to the guy going by. Almost nobody actually gives the guy cash that I see except for a couple day trippers.


A Canadian (I'm guessing he's one since he said "live near Toronto") complained about the horrors of having to use cash on an older train system in a city he doesn't live in.

It then devolved intoa US is outdated and backwards because some countries have App payment systems, etc. As if that's a true measurement of advancement, nevermind the health and rights issues of those countries that were used as examples..
 
2019-06-24 11:51:13 AM  
"911, what's the nature of your emergency?"
"Help!  Help!  I'm being held prisoner by a man with a gun!  He says he's going to kill me!  Send the SWAT team!"
"Where are you?"
"I'm in the capital building of Iran!'
" . . . you know you're calling 911 in Washington D.C. again, don't you, Mr. Bolton?"
"Dammit!" *click*
 
2019-06-24 11:52:17 AM  

FarkBucket18: Amish in the country and there is a constant battle between their rights to drive their horses


You used one example of a small group of people that live in the us as an example of outdated, lack of progress compared to the entire country.

Yes, that's hyperbole.
 
2019-06-24 11:53:49 AM  

NateAsbestos: Stuxnet says hello


I was just about to ask how their uranium enrichment centerfuges are doing.
 
2019-06-24 11:54:19 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Iran: shoots down spy plane, bombs oil tankers.
US: deletes Iran's browser bookmarks and has the computer make fart noises when it boots up.

LOL I HAXX0R U!!!!


"bombs oil tankers"

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2019-06-24 11:54:35 AM  

HumanSVD: Also, WeChat while it's convienent, is ALWAYS tracked by the CCP to monitor it's citizens.


Pfft. You can get around that with simple money laundering. I'm told, but can't confirm, that paying for the 50-pack of pork buns from a place near Jilin will actually get you a blowjob.

My experience with China was that it was much less 1984 and more like a harried nanny state chasing after its millions of kids.
 
2019-06-24 11:54:41 AM  

FarkBucket18: but laws forcing stores to accept cash is just anti-progress.


Can't believe I forgot this one.

Why the hell is that bad? It's the currency of the country! It's literally the physical medium of the same currency being paid by phone! You're essentially are disenfranchising poorer or other people who have legal tender. Of course cash should still be accepted.

Progress my ass.
 
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