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(Eater)   A look back at the whitewashing era of Mexican, er, "Spanish food" in Los Angeles. Mexicans and Spaniards facepalm while watching gringos say how they like eating them fried corn chips with that tomato and pepper sauce   (la.eater.com) divider line
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785 clicks; posted to Food » on 15 Apr 2019 at 11:22 PM (7 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2019-04-15 11:30:04 PM  
Ja-lap-en-oes.
 
2019-04-15 11:32:15 PM  
Btw, El Cholo is still there at it's original location. And when I go there I ask for Tor Tillie Ahs.
 
2019-04-16 12:04:58 AM  
Cal-A-FORE-NA Burrr-Ito!
 
2019-04-16 12:23:53 AM  

Notabunny: Btw, El Cholo is still there at it's original location. And when I go there I ask for Tor Tillie Ahs.


Second location, actually.  The first was near where the Colliseum is now.

Not far from El Cholo is a restaurant called Broken Spanish, which serves Mexican food.  At least it seems like they're referring to the language.

Also, while we're at it, let's not forget that classic love song Spanish Eyes, about a girl who lives in Mexico.
 
2019-04-16 12:43:53 AM  
Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?
 
2019-04-16 01:04:51 AM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Cal-A-FORE-NA Burrr-Ito!


They don't really have those in LA.

/Xberto's por siempre
 
2019-04-16 01:17:25 AM  

aerojockey: Notabunny: Btw, El Cholo is still there at it's original location. And when I go there I ask for Tor Tillie Ahs.

Second location, actually.  The first was near where the Colliseum is now.

Not far from El Cholo is a restaurant called Broken Spanish, which serves Mexican food.  At least it seems like they're referring to the language.

Also, while we're at it, let's not forget that classic love song Spanish Eyes, about a girl who lives in Mexico.


My mistake. I think my first visit to El Cholo was during one of my dad's nostalgia tours of LA. (He moved there in 1957) I think I just assumed it had always been there. That said, I can't listen to My Brown Eyed Girl or Oye Como Va without wanting a little chili and lime.
 
2019-04-16 01:28:02 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?


What the pho are you talking about?
 
2019-04-16 01:28:26 AM  

Notabunny: aerojockey: Notabunny: Btw, El Cholo is still there at it's original location. And when I go there I ask for Tor Tillie Ahs.

Second location, actually.  The first was near where the Colliseum is now.

Not far from El Cholo is a restaurant called Broken Spanish, which serves Mexican food.  At least it seems like they're referring to the language.

Also, while we're at it, let's not forget that classic love song Spanish Eyes, about a girl who lives in Mexico.

My mistake. I think my first visit to El Cholo was during one of my dad's nostalgia tours of LA. (He moved there in 1957) I think I just assumed it had always been there. That said, I can't listen to My Brown Eyed Girl or Oye Como Va without wanting a little chili and lime.


I actually thought that was the original location myself, but yeah they had a little place some years before they moved to their current location.
 
2019-04-16 01:32:49 AM  

aerojockey: Notabunny: aerojockey: Notabunny: Btw, El Cholo is still there at it's original location. And when I go there I ask for Tor Tillie Ahs.

Second location, actually.  The first was near where the Colliseum is now.

Not far from El Cholo is a restaurant called Broken Spanish, which serves Mexican food.  At least it seems like they're referring to the language.

Also, while we're at it, let's not forget that classic love song Spanish Eyes, about a girl who lives in Mexico.

My mistake. I think my first visit to El Cholo was during one of my dad's nostalgia tours of LA. (He moved there in 1957) I think I just assumed it had always been there. That said, I can't listen to My Brown Eyed Girl or Oye Como Va without wanting a little chili and lime.

I actually thought that was the original location myself, but yeah they had a little place some years before they moved to their current location.


If your lucky or unlucky, you could get the nacho table.  It is close to the kitchen but when you sit there you get a free order of nachos with your order.
 
2019-04-16 02:23:13 AM  

Bonzo_1116: J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Cal-A-FORE-NA Burrr-Ito!

They don't really have those in LA.

/Xberto's por siempre


daaaa...okay
 
2019-04-16 05:39:15 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?


Maybe do care and break the pattern of passive racism. Acknowledge the person or people who made the food you liked as people with a background that exists outside the realm of "traditional" American. How else do people like that get recognized?
 
2019-04-16 07:40:38 AM  

buttermonkey: Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?

Maybe do care and break the pattern of passive racism. Acknowledge the person or people who made the food you liked as people with a background that exists outside the realm of "traditional" American. How else do people like that get recognized?


You don't understand the statmests you are quoting
 
2019-04-16 08:07:23 AM  
> Not all owners and diners found the changes in nomenclature and cultural transitions of the 20th century to be seamless. Restaurants like the shuttered Zarco on Hollywood Boulevard were slow to lose their whitewashing ways even by the middle of the century. In 1956, Zarco carried a hand-drawn image of a regal horse on its so-called Spanish menu and postcards, alongside an explanatory paragraph:

Our horseman depicts the Spaniards who brought to California the romanticism, the imagination, and the appreciation of beauty that is inherent in their race. Their contribution to the ultimate culture was basic and important in helping to transform a semi-wilderness into the complex and dynamic California of today.

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I'm surprised the article didn't relate this to Zorro who has at times been worshiped in Los Angeles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorro

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Zorro was a member of the white European Spanish land owning class in Los Angeles when it was part of Mexico.

Zorro and Spanish stood for the white civilization which elevated Mexican peon food and sanctified its consumption.
 
2019-04-16 08:15:21 AM  
A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.
 
2019-04-16 09:36:23 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?


Generic white guy comment
 
2019-04-16 09:40:25 AM  

Thosw: A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.

Old Town wasn't an option?
 
2019-04-16 09:42:59 AM  

doctorguilty: Thosw: A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.
Old Town wasn't an option?


¿no hay taco trucks en san diego?!
 
2019-04-16 09:49:00 AM  

skiinstructor: doctorguilty: Thosw: A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.
Old Town wasn't an option?

¿no hay taco trucks en san diego?!


I guess not. We went to Seaport Village *twice* that week. They were also excited to see that Claim Jumper was still in business.
 
2019-04-16 09:50:33 AM  

skiinstructor: doctorguilty: Thosw: A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.
Old Town wasn't an option?

¿no hay taco trucks en san diego?!


This happens in a lot of authentic locations too. Detroit has a Mexican town that has some great food venders and restaurants. Of course I get invited to a restaurant by a workmate and it turns out the joint was a tourist trap for the Canadians crossing the river. The locals in our party were face-palming and giving directions to better places.

Heck even here in gulf coast Texas, you have to dodge a lot of the popular places since popular does not equal good.
 
2019-04-16 09:57:25 AM  
This seems to be a big deal out there. I dated a liberal white girl from California and she would twitch every time I said "Spanish people" instead of "Latinos." I claimed Sorta Rican privilege and said "Spanish people" even more often just to fark with her.
 
2019-04-16 10:00:11 AM  

skiinstructor: doctorguilty: Thosw: A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.
Old Town wasn't an option?

¿no hay taco trucks en san diego?!


Lots, even in '08 when I was there last.
It had been seventeen years since I'd moved from San Diego, and I still remembered enough to tell Mrs. Guilty, "here, you'll love this, don't go here." We had a blast, and she finally understood why I miss better Mexican food.
 
2019-04-16 10:32:25 AM  
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Everyone knows the tacos are better in Ell Eh
 
2019-04-16 11:20:34 AM  

buttermonkey: Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?

Maybe do care and break the pattern of passive racism. Acknowledge the person or people who made the food you liked as people with a background that exists outside the realm of "traditional" American. How else do people like that get recognized?


Passive racism, HAHAHHAA, sounds like a good term to use when you want to paint someone who isn't actually racist as a racist, is that like being white supremacist adjacent?

farking loons.
 
6 days ago  

doctorguilty: Thosw: A couple of weeks ago, we had a family reunion on my wife's side in San Diego/Carlsbad. My wife and her sister (who all live in Texas) were "I can't wait to get some *real* Mexican food!"  They ended up ordering cheese enchiladas at tourist trap Seaport Village in San Diego.
Old Town wasn't an option?


Exactly.  Old Town has some decent food.  Plus the bird bath margarita's are damn tasty and you can legitimately say you just had one while feeling pretty good.
 
6 days ago  
I eat my tacos with just meat. If I wanted a salad, I would have ordered one.
 
6 days ago  

Raug the Dwarf: [img.fark.net image 850x478]

Everyone knows the tacos are better in Ell Eh


something something oral sex tacos reference
 
6 days ago  

Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?


Nope. There's a sizable number of people who think eating "authentic" food somehow makes them really awesome. If you want to see them in action, check out any thread about chipotle or sushi.
 
6 days ago  

buttermonkey: Moniker o' Shame: Personally I do not give a fark what the food is labeled as long as it is good.  Also I do not care if a white, black, Asian, or whatever race and/or ethnicity person runs a taco stand as long as the food is good.  Call the food whatever the heck you like, just make it tasty.  Have we not learned anything?

Maybe do care and break the pattern of passive racism. Acknowledge the person or people who made the food you liked as people with a background that exists outside the realm of "traditional" American. How else do people like that get recognized?


This is a parody, right?
 
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