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(The Verge)   While SpaceX may have conquered the skies, the ocean had other ideas for the Falcon heavy center booster that landed April 11th on the drone ship as 8 to 11 foot waves tossed the booster overboard   (theverge.com) divider line
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4 days ago  
You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.
 
4 days ago  

felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.


I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.
 
4 days ago  

dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.


I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.
 
4 days ago  
The "octagrabber" sounds like a Japanese sex toy.
 
4 days ago  
The obvious solution is to land center core on the water.. Once on the water it enables WTF mode.. Short for Water Traversing Falcon. Once enabled the center Merlin engine is ejected and a propeller is extended in it's place..  7,000 pounds of Delta-V batteries  will power a 300HP electric motor to power the shaft. Once back near Florida the booster will approach the beach, then stand up and just walk away while pulling down it's hat hoping no one noticed what happened..
 
4 days ago  
AHHHHH SH*T.
 
4 days ago  

UberDave: The "octagrabber" sounds like a Japanese sex toy.

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4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

styckx: The obvious solution is to land center core on the water.. Once on the water it enables WTF mode.. Short for Water Traversing Falcon. Once enabled the center Merlin engine is ejected and a propeller is extended in it's place..  7,000 pounds of Delta-V batteries  will power a 300HP electric motor to power the shaft. Once back near Florida the booster will approach the beach, then stand up and just walk away while pulling down it's hat hoping no one noticed what happened..


There is a simple solution for securing large and unwieldy metal objects to a ship, if you get to them quick enough. According to people in another thread I read about this, it's common practice to simply weld them to the deck.
 
4 days ago  
Where it will sink to Bikini Bottom, and create a home for a little ecosystem.
 
4 days ago  

wejash: dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.

I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.


Definitely. But all kinds of cool.
 
4 days ago  
Time for a redesigned drone ship with a gantry that raises up out of the deck.
 
4 days ago  

wejash: dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.

I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.


I think it's a matter of scale.    We get to the point there are 10-20 launches a month, and then we might be talking.   A large containerish ship, with underdeck storage, and a crane to lay the boosters down horizontal.  I imageine a ship that size could have a REALLY large landing deck, to make landing a bit easier.  It "sails" out at the beginning of the month, and returns after 30 days with 30 or so booster engines.

Of course, this would be offset of having a REALLY LARGE SHIP being the ground zero target for a booster explosion and taking out a LOT of hardware.    Depends on how the safety record goes I imagine.
 
4 days ago  

Reyito: Of course, this would be offset of having a REALLY LARGE SHIP being the ground zero target for a booster explosion and taking out a LOT of hardware. Depends on how the safety record goes I imagine.


Depends how many people you have on board and how big the ship is.  Eventually you hit a tipping point where what would be man the lifeboats scramble for your little barge is just a really bad damage control exercise for your giant container ship.  Assuming, you know, the thing doesn't just hit the deck at mach 5 and put a giant cartoon hole through the ship top to bottom.  You'd hope they're programmed to aim away from the landing ship if things are going that badly.
 
4 days ago  

Reyito: wejash: dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.

I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.

I think it's a matter of scale.    We get to the point there are 10-20 launches a month, and then we might be talking.   A large containerish ship, with underdeck storage, and a crane to lay the boosters down horizontal.  I imageine a ship that size could have a REALLY large landing deck, to make landing a bit easier.  It "sails" out at the beginning of the month, and returns after 30 days with 30 or so booster engines.

Of course, this would be offset of having a REALLY LARGE SHIP being the ground zero target for a booster explosion and taking out a LOT of hardware.    Depends on how the safety record goes I imagine.


Your post raised a question for me: is there a backlog of launch requests?
 
4 days ago  
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itcamefromschenectady: styckx: The obvious solution is to land center core on the water.. Once on the water it enables WTF mode.. Short for Water Traversing Falcon. Once enabled the center Merlin engine is ejected and a propeller is extended in it's place..  7,000 pounds of Delta-V batteries  will power a 300HP electric motor to power the shaft. Once back near Florida the booster will approach the beach, then stand up and just walk away while pulling down it's hat hoping no one noticed what happened..

There is a simple solution for securing large and unwieldy metal objects to a ship, if you get to them quick enough. According to people in another thread I read about this, it's common practice to simply weld them to the deck.


So all that's needed is a welding spider. That could deal with the job even in shaky situations. And will retain viewership a little longer.
 
4 days ago  

wejash: dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.

I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.


Just change the name to USS Kittypie070.
 
4 days ago  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: wejash: dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.

I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.


Just change the name to USS Kittypie070.


(roars with laughter)

And wouldn't ya know, my naming convention for my computers has been "aircraft carriers" for the past several years.
 
4 days ago  
Kind of like fishing..So it was catch and release ..
 
4 days ago  
the ship set down onthe shore of this deserted isle
with him and him
10 strippers, too
a billionaire with 3 wives
 
4 days ago  

styckx: The obvious solution is to land center core on the water.. Once on the water it enables WTF mode.. Short for Water Traversing Falcon. Once enabled the center Merlin engine is ejected and a propeller is extended in it's place..  7,000 pounds of Delta-V batteries  will power a 300HP electric motor to power the shaft. Once back near Florida the booster will approach the beach, then stand up and just walk away while pulling down it's hat hoping no one noticed what happened..


Don't give him ideas; he'll do it.
 
4 days ago  

oopsboom: Reyito: Of course, this would be offset of having a REALLY LARGE SHIP being the ground zero target for a booster explosion and taking out a LOT of hardware. Depends on how the safety record goes I imagine.

Depends how many people you have on board and how big the ship is.  Eventually you hit a tipping point where what would be man the lifeboats scramble for your little barge is just a really bad damage control exercise for your giant container ship.  Assuming, you know, the thing doesn't just hit the deck at mach 5 and put a giant cartoon hole through the ship top to bottom.  You'd hope they're programmed to aim away from the landing ship if things are going that badly.


The rockets are programmed to miss the ship by default. They only correct their course right at the end if things are going well.
 
4 days ago  

LoneVVolf: styckx: The obvious solution is to land center core on the water.. Once on the water it enables WTF mode.. Short for Water Traversing Falcon. Once enabled the center Merlin engine is ejected and a propeller is extended in it's place..  7,000 pounds of Delta-V batteries  will power a 300HP electric motor to power the shaft. Once back near Florida the booster will approach the beach, then stand up and just walk away while pulling down it's hat hoping no one noticed what happened..

Don't give him ideas; he'll do it.


I could be mistaken, but I believe they intend to refly that one booster that crashed offshore earlier this year.  There seems to be some debate over whether they can after its exposure to salt water and the impact from tipping over.
(checking)  So, no they apparently won't be reusing it any time soon.  They've Chosen B1048 instead, which has had three successful previous landings, last used on the Nusantara Satu mission earlier this year. It's unlikely to survive it's next flight.

The whole issue of reusing parts after they've been dunked in the ocean is kind of fascinating.
Originally the Dragon capsule was not going to be reusable when they switched to water landings, but it seems the team came up with waterproof covers to protect the thrusters. So they feel save enough to use them for cargo flights.
If they'd gone B1050 instead then it would have been the first time they'd reflown an entire rocket that was dunked in the sea.

/well, except for the upper stage.
/I wonder if they'll actually sacrifice a merlin and a tank or if they'll just use a weight simulator.
 
4 days ago  
Well, that answered my question.
 
3 days ago  

Kittypie070: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: wejash: dv-ous: felching pen: You're gonna need a bigger drone ship.

I don't think the USS Kitty Hawk has been scrapped yet.

I...I think maybe that might be one of those "swatting a fly with a sledgehammer" sort of solutions. Maybe?

But it would be all kinds of cool anyway.

Just change the name to USS Kittypie070.

(roars with laughter)

And wouldn't ya know, my naming convention for my computers has been "aircraft carriers" for the past several years.


Cool!  The last place I worked, the servers were named after astronomical bodies in the Solar System.  Eventually, we ran out of planets, moons, and major asteroids, and were getting down to the Gravel.
Once, we ordered two servers, and received four.  No one seemed interested in reclaiming the extras, so (since they 'didn't exist', I named them after fictional planets - Eddore and Klendathu.
Here at home, my servers are named after 'Servers' - Jarvis, Jeeves, and Alfred.  Need more kickass butlers...
 
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