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(Some Guy)   Bernie Sanders takes the lead in the horserace that is the Democratic nomination with 29%, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden at 24% (who hasn't saddled up yet)   (emersonpolling.reportablenews.com) divider line
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2019-04-15 01:25:06 PM  
1. Polls are mostly name recognition at this point.

2.

568 DAYS TO GO:
2008 Dem: Clinton led by 9 points.
2008 GOP: Giuliani led by 12 points.
2012 GOP: Romney led by 6.4 points.
2016 Dem: Clinton led by 57.7 points.
2016 GOP: Bush led by 1.8 points.https://t.co/OLynKLRaJh

- Who led? (@LedPast) April 15, 2019


3. The poll was conducted April 11-14 of Democratic Primary voters with a subset of n=356, +/- 5.2%.

Why even bother oh right clicks.
 
2019-04-15 01:31:57 PM  
Data was collected using both an Interactive Voice Response (IVR) system of landlines only (n=599) and an online panel provided by Amazon Turk (n=315).

This is interesting. Wouldn't we expect a landline poll to skewolder and more conservative?
Otoh  - The data was weighted based on a 2016 voter model of gender, age, party affiliation, region and ethnicity.
So I suppose the pollsters understand this dynamic and account for it. Either way, Go Bernie!
 
2019-04-15 01:40:22 PM  
If Bernie wins the nom, his supporters will decide they don't like him anymore.
 
2019-04-15 01:55:54 PM  
Looking for the online community's take?  Try predictit.org where Sanders, Biden and Buttigieg are all running even.
 
2019-04-15 01:55:56 PM  
Ya know who else panders to his base and alienates everyone else?


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2019-04-15 01:56:06 PM  
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2019-04-15 02:01:33 PM  
Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).
 
2019-04-15 02:02:26 PM  

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Hate is okay when dealing with whites.
 
2019-04-15 02:02:36 PM  
If I were Bernie, I'd figure that he was given the bum's rush by Hillary and her people last time around, and that's why we're suffering Trump, and at his age and with his background, what the hell else is he going to do to make life interesting - what's left of it.

The DNC would do well to buy him off this time, instead of edging him aside with superdelegate BS. Maybe offer him a solid vp position with the eventual nominee.
 
2019-04-15 02:03:36 PM  

Badmoodman: Ya know who else panders to his base and alienates everyone else?


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I don't think defending healthcare reform alienates as many Democrats as you think it does.
 
2019-04-15 02:07:39 PM  
My biggest fear is that there's going to be only one or two Third Way\Blue Dog\Clinton Democrats running against 10 or more progressive candidates. Splitting the progressive vote between 10 or more candidates while consolidating the right wing into just one or two is a sure way for the right wing of the party to win with a minority of the people supporting them. Let's be honest here, who is Biden sharing votes with? Sanders, Warren and Buttigieg all have similar policies on several issues. I'm curious if there's any other real front runners at this time that have the same policies as Biden (like no single payer\Medicare for all). Biden may be close to the top in the polls but if you add up the poll results for progressives vs the results for the Clinton Democrats I may be crazy but it looks to me like the progressives are firmly ahead. We wouldn't want someone to be elected with a minority support would we?
 
2019-04-15 02:08:09 PM  
This is bullshiat brought to you by auntie Babushka
 
2019-04-15 02:08:31 PM  

RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).


Whining about age doesn't mean much when we place so much stock in people's VP picks, dontcha know.
 
2019-04-15 02:08:31 PM  
The first primary/caucus is almost ten months away.

The first primary/caucus is almost ten months away.

The first primary/caucus is almost ten months away.

The first primary/caucus is almost ten months away.

The first primary/caucus is almost ten months away.
 
2019-04-15 02:10:58 PM  
"Hello, person who is mostly unaware of politics.  Which of these names have you heard mentioned on TV most recently?"

How informative.  FFS.
 
2019-04-15 02:11:13 PM  
People like the greedy capitalist Bernie. Not so much the hectoring collectivist Bernie.
 
2019-04-15 02:11:22 PM  
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2019-04-15 02:11:56 PM  

red230: My biggest fear is that there's going to be only one or two Third Way\Blue Dog\Clinton Democrats running against 10 or more progressive candidates. Splitting the progressive vote between 10 or more candidates while consolidating the right wing into just one or two is a sure way for the right wing of the party to win with a minority of the people supporting them. Let's be honest here, who is Biden sharing votes with? Sanders, Warren and Buttigieg all have similar policies on several issues. I'm curious if there's any other real front runners at this time that have the same policies as Biden (like no single payer\Medicare for all). Biden may be close to the top in the polls but if you add up the poll results for progressives vs the results for the Clinton Democrats I may be crazy but it looks to me like the progressives are firmly ahead. We wouldn't want someone to be elected with a minority support would we?


Splitting support with a large number of candidates didn't seem to hurt Trump's campaign.
 
2019-04-15 02:13:09 PM  

RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).


I've outright said that I refuse to support a male boomer in the primary.
 
2019-04-15 02:13:16 PM  
WTF would Bernie run as a Democrat if he hates them so much?
 
2019-04-15 02:13:46 PM  
Failed third way centrism is OK as long as a young person is the one pushing it
 
2019-04-15 02:17:57 PM  

sigdiamond2000: If Bernie wins the nom, his supporters will decide they don't like him anymore.


There's some truth to this.  Hell, there's shiat in Bernie's own voting record that had any other candidate done the same thing, his supporters would be foaming at the mouth.

Take for example, Bernie's vote to build the F-35 fighter jet. I have no issue with it; the damn thing was going to get built anyway and Bernie was just trying to bring the jobs into his state.  But if Kamala or Beto had done the same thing, the Bernie Bros would be flooding Twitter calling them traitors.
 
2019-04-15 02:20:38 PM  
It's gonna be a long six years.
 
2019-04-15 02:21:08 PM  
That's fine.

Put up or shut up Sanders. Get the votes in the primaries and win them.

I wish our primaries weren't so spread out giving earlier voting states more influence.
 
2019-04-15 02:22:16 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: 1. Polls are mostly name recognition at this point.

2.
568 DAYS TO GO:
2008 Dem: Clinton led by 9 points.
2008 GOP: Giuliani led by 12 points.
2012 GOP: Romney led by 6.4 points.
2016 Dem: Clinton led by 57.7 points.
2016 GOP: Bush led by 1.8 points.https://t.co/OLynKLRaJh
- Who led? (@LedPast) April 15, 2019

3. The poll was conducted April 11-14 of Democratic Primary voters with a subset of n=356, +/- 5.2%.

Why even bother oh right clicks.


Even so, I can't say it enough: NOT BERNIE. NOT BIDEN.
 
2019-04-15 02:22:34 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Failed third way centrism is OK as long as a young person is the one pushing it


You mean the kind that took back the House in '18?

I'm OK with that.jpg
 
2019-04-15 02:22:35 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Failed third way centrism is OK as long as a young person is the one pushing it


It's so refreshing, look at how young they are!
 
2019-04-15 02:23:34 PM  

fernt: 'd figure that he was given the bum's rush by Hillary and her people last time around, and that's why we're suffering Trump,


Funny, I thought we got Trump because of people like you who voted for him.
 
2019-04-15 02:24:16 PM  
I try not to excited about anything because when I do, it doesn't happen. It's too far away to be all "Oh Boy!" about it folks.

We have a very packed vw clown car right now and Bernie's face is smashed against the front window.
 
2019-04-15 02:24:28 PM  

Esc7: That's fine.

Put up or shut up Sanders. Get the votes in the primaries and win them.

I wish our primaries weren't so spread out giving earlier voting states more influence.


What makes you think Bernie will drop out just because he's lost the Primary?
 
2019-04-15 02:25:53 PM  

RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).


And if either Boomer gets the nomination?
 
2019-04-15 02:26:38 PM  

fernt: If I were Bernie, I'd figure that he was given the bum's rush by Hillary and her people last time around, and that's why we're suffering Trump, and at his age and with his background, what the hell else is he going to do to make life interesting - what's left of it.

The DNC would do well to buy him off this time, instead of edging him aside with superdelegate BS. Maybe offer him a solid vp position with the eventual nominee.


Superdelagates changed nothing, Sanders didn't get even get a simple majority of regular delegates you lying POS.
 
2019-04-15 02:28:10 PM  
I'll just leave this here...

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2019-04-15 02:28:15 PM  

sigdiamond2000: If Bernie wins the nom, his supporters will decide they don't like him anymore.


Russia?  They never did like him.
 
2019-04-15 02:28:43 PM  

RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).


Remember, we elected a BLACK guy named Hussein. If we can pull that off I'm sure the homosexuality and butt jokes will only be appreciated by people who were never going.to vote for a Democrat in the first place.
 
2019-04-15 02:29:38 PM  

Print'sNotDead: Esc7: That's fine.

Put up or shut up Sanders. Get the votes in the primaries and win them.

I wish our primaries weren't so spread out giving earlier voting states more influence.

What makes you think Bernie will drop out just because he's lost the Primary?


lol nothing. He whined about superdelegates existing the entire 2016 primary because they could contravene the will of the people.  But when he lost the regular delegate race he implored the superdelegates to contravene the will of the people, in his favor.
 
2019-04-15 02:30:54 PM  

ElwoodCuse: Failed third way centrism is OK as long as a young person is the one pushing it


Hell, we've got Dem farkers here the don't give a single feck about policy and would actively push to nominate Underwear Model 2020, because they're shallower than a baby pool.
 
2019-04-15 02:31:00 PM  

Print'sNotDead: I'll just leave this here...

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Over one in five Sanders supporters were complete morons.
 
2019-04-15 02:33:50 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: sigdiamond2000: If Bernie wins the nom, his supporters will decide they don't like him anymore.

Russia?  They never did like him.


Bernie hate is almost as derpy as Clinton hate, just saying.
 
2019-04-15 02:34:38 PM  

whidbey: RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).

And if either Boomer gets the nomination?


I'm gonna vote for them, obviously.  But they aren't my first choice.  If I have to choose between progressive grandpa (or grandma) and racist grandpa, the choice is obvious.

But in the primary, if I get to choose between boomer or someone younger, it will be someone younger. That is my only criteria at this point.
 
2019-04-15 02:35:44 PM  

RyansPrivates: whidbey: RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).

And if either Boomer gets the nomination?

I'm gonna vote for them, obviously.  But they aren't my first choice.  If I have to choose between progressive grandpa (or grandma) and racist grandpa, the choice is obvious.

But in the primary, if I get to choose between boomer or someone younger, it will be someone younger. That is my only criteria at this point.


I'm going to be the odd man out here and vote for the best person in the race, ok?

The one who has the best ideas.
 
2019-04-15 02:37:36 PM  

whidbey: RyansPrivates: whidbey: RyansPrivates: Can we just all agree: No Boomers (or older)?

That's my single criteria.  I'm sick of having a grandpa in office.  Obama is still younger than these candidates (he's kind of on the cusp between Boomers and Gen-X).

I'm really liking Buttigieg (too bad about the name, but if he can be as charasmatic as Obama he could do it).

And if either Boomer gets the nomination?

I'm gonna vote for them, obviously.  But they aren't my first choice.  If I have to choose between progressive grandpa (or grandma) and racist grandpa, the choice is obvious.

But in the primary, if I get to choose between boomer or someone younger, it will be someone younger. That is my only criteria at this point.

I'm going to be the odd man out here and vote for the best person in the race, ok?

The one who has the best ideas.


That's madness.

/s
 
2019-04-15 02:37:43 PM  

Esc7: Print'sNotDead: Esc7: That's fine.

Put up or shut up Sanders. Get the votes in the primaries and win them.

I wish our primaries weren't so spread out giving earlier voting states more influence.

What makes you think Bernie will drop out just because he's lost the Primary?

lol nothing. He whined about superdelegates existing the entire 2016 primary because they could contravene the will of the people.  But when he lost the regular delegate race he implored the superdelegates to contravene the will of the people, in his favor.


Which, to be fair, would be the only reason to have superdelegates.  If they are only there to rubber stamp, they serve no purpose.  If they are there as a backstop against what would be a bad choice, then why not have them "contravene"
 
2019-04-15 02:40:00 PM  
If your "only criteria" is "someone younger" please don't vote at all because you obviously care very little about any of this
 
2019-04-15 02:40:05 PM  
Bernie chose the right platform, single payer could bring together the votes to win.
 
2019-04-15 02:41:20 PM  

sigdiamond2000: If Bernie wins the nom, his supporters will decide they don't like him anymore.


If Bernie wins the nom I will be knocking on doors and doing DNC telephone banking with any free time I have available.
 
2019-04-15 02:41:33 PM  
Bernie Sanders is not, nor has he ever been, a Democrat
 
2019-04-15 02:41:44 PM  

RyansPrivates: But in the primary, if I get to choose between boomer or someone younger, it will be someone younger. That is my only criteria at this point.


Here's a question though; why is younger innately better?

I would prefer a younger person myself, but if it were between say, Biden or Beto, I'd vote Biden because I think he's better qualified.  Youth is not paramount to me, and I'm not a baby boomer (in my late 30s).
 
2019-04-15 02:41:58 PM  
It's his turn
 
2019-04-15 02:44:00 PM  

Badmoodman: Ya know who else panders to his base and alienates everyone else?


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There's a whole greenlitnlink about that.

TL;DR: he's not wrong.
 
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