Skip to content
Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Newsweek)   Former cold warrior president gives current white house occupant advice about China, says 226 years of war is enough   (newsweek.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, Jimmy Carter, President of the United States, Donald Trump, Former President Jimmy Carter, South China Sea, President Donald Trump, People's Republic of China, Gerald Ford  
•       •       •

1464 clicks; posted to Politics » on 15 Apr 2019 at 12:47 PM (7 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



38 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2019-04-15 12:15:22 PM  
"Since 1979, do you know how many times China has been at war with anybody?" Carter asked. "None. And we have stayed at war." The U.S., he noted, has only enjoyed 16 years of peace in its 242-year history, making the country "the most warlike nation in the history of the world," Carter said. This is, he said, because of America's tendency to force other nations to "adopt our American principles."

Enough said.
 
2019-04-15 12:24:18 PM  
noun: osteBeen said, made no difference then either.
i.pinimg.comView Full Size
 
2019-04-15 12:25:02 PM  
China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!
 
2019-04-15 12:26:46 PM  

The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!


He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.
 
2019-04-15 12:41:01 PM  

Barfmaker: The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!

He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.


No, what _I'm_ saying is that China has been at war a lot over the last 50 years.  We just don't call it war because, well, we don't call it war when you kill your "own" people.
 
#2
2019-04-15 12:53:16 PM  
img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2019-04-15 12:53:53 PM  
He brought this up during Sunday school? I can only imagine what people thought.

"Jimmy, I'm glad the President sees fit to consult a true Christian gentleman on such matters as how to deal with the Yellow Peril, but what has that got to do with the Gospel?"
 
2019-04-15 12:54:00 PM  

The Third Man: Barfmaker: The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!

He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.

No, what _I'm_ saying is that China has been at war a lot over the last 50 years.  We just don't call it war because, well, we don't call it war when you kill your "own" people.


Sure we do. We called it war when we were murdering all the Native Americans on "our" land. That's what most of that 226 years is.
 
2019-04-15 12:56:35 PM  
When it comes to China's economic growth overtaking the U.S., the U.S. has no one to blame but itself.
 
2019-04-15 12:58:03 PM  

The Third Man: Barfmaker: The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!

He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.

No, what _I'm_ saying is that China has been at war a lot over the last 50 years.  We just don't call it war because, well, we don't call it war when you kill your "own" people.


No because war and repression are two different things. War is already an overused term, you want to apply to every kind of state sponsored violence?

Genocide isn't the right word here either theres no systematic killing on an industrial scale with the purpose of destroying a particular group
 
2019-04-15 12:58:32 PM  

The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!


Well, the last time they were at war it was them getting the genocide end of the stick
That likely has a great deal to do with it
 
2019-04-15 12:58:33 PM  
I stopped at trump and commander-in-chief. He's a lying scumbag POS who doesn't deserve any title greater than serial liar.
 
2019-04-15 12:58:47 PM  
war makes companies money. high speed rail and bridges are socialism. everything is exactly how our corporations and elected officials want things to be.


Capitalism is more important than democracy. This is the quite part loud timeline.
 
2019-04-15 12:58:53 PM  
What are his views on the Cola Wars though?
 
2019-04-15 12:59:41 PM  

Meatsim1: The Third Man: Barfmaker: The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!

He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.

No, what _I'm_ saying is that China has been at war a lot over the last 50 years.  We just don't call it war because, well, we don't call it war when you kill your "own" people.

No because war and repression are two different things. War is already an overused term, you want to apply to every kind of state sponsored violence?

Genocide isn't the right word here either theres no systematic killing on an industrial scale with the purpose of destroying a particular group


Tibet would beg to differ, so would the Uigher
 
2019-04-15 01:00:16 PM  
If Carter were to run in 2020, I'd vote for him.
 
2019-04-15 01:00:17 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: When it comes to China's economic growth overtaking the U.S., the U.S. has no one to blame but itself.


Ehh, their 1 billion + population advantage might also have something to do with it.

They have almost a 4 to 1 population advantage over the US. All they really had to do was modernize their economy and the rest fell into place.
 
2019-04-15 01:00:38 PM  
I always liked Jimmy Carter. I share his view that America has no inherent right to force its views about government on other countries. (Now if they're stupid enough to take our foreign aid, they've compromised themselves.)

John F. Kennedy felt the same way about forcing our views on other countries, and he wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve system and we saw how that turned out.

Gen. Smedly Butler nailed it: war is a racket. Problem at this point is, it's also a 50-state jobs program. It will be hard to dismantle it, by design.
 
2019-04-15 01:01:08 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: What are his views on the Cola Wars though?


Death before Pepsi!
 
2019-04-15 01:02:16 PM  

fernt: I always liked Jimmy Carter. I share his view that America has no inherent right to force its views about government on other countries. (Now if they're stupid enough to take our foreign aid, they've compromised themselves.)

John F. Kennedy felt the same way about forcing our views on other countries, and he wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve system and we saw how that turned out.

Gen. Smedly Butler nailed it: war is a racket. Problem at this point is, it's also a 50-state jobs program. It will be hard to dismantle it, by design.


Who are you and what did you do to fernt?
 
2019-04-15 01:04:51 PM  
Is it irony that the single most badass sub we currently have is named the "Jimmy Carter"?

He is one hell of a good human being
 
2019-04-15 01:05:23 PM  

fernt: I always liked Jimmy Carter. I share his view that America has no inherent right to force its views about government on other countries. (Now if they're stupid enough to take our foreign aid, they've compromised themselves.)

John F. Kennedy felt the same way about forcing our views on other countries, and he wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve system and we saw how that turned out.

Gen. Smedly Butler nailed it: war is a racket. Problem at this point is, it's also a 50-state jobs program. It will be hard to dismantle it, by design.


WTF what med did you take this morning?
 
2019-04-15 01:06:05 PM  
"...because of America's tendency to force other nations to "adopt our American principles."

American power grows out of the barrel of a gun.
 
2019-04-15 01:14:05 PM  
The Korean war called and would like it's facts known. Also didn't China have a brief boarder war with Vietnam?

China doesn't go to war because in the last 20 years they learned it's easier to buy friends than fight enemies, something still lost on Americans.
 
2019-04-15 01:15:10 PM  
Jimmy Carter Took Call About China From Concerned Donald Trump

How did either of those happen??

img.fark.netView Full Size
 
2019-04-15 01:19:14 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: What are his views on the Cola Wars though?


Coca Cola man, through and through.

I almost said Coke man, but that's the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Fun fact, Carter's A.G. and Deputy Secretary of Defense came from Coca Cola (one was their lawyer one on their board).
 
2019-04-15 01:23:00 PM  

keldaria: Unscratchable_Itch: When it comes to China's economic growth overtaking the U.S., the U.S. has no one to blame but itself.

Ehh, their 1 billion + population advantage might also have something to do with it.

They have almost a 4 to 1 population advantage over the US. All they really had to do was modernize their economy and the rest fell into place.


Their *growth* is faster than ours right now because they are (still!) poorer than us, for the most part; their overall economy is bound to be bigger than ours because of the population. However, as a wealthy nation, I think we can also do better than we are doing now if we have a better social safety net, and if so many Americans weren't constantly struggling to stay ahead of ruin.
 
2019-04-15 01:33:09 PM  

The Third Man: Barfmaker: The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!

He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.

No, what _I'm_ saying is that China has been at war a lot over the last 50 years.  We just don't call it war because, well, we don't call it war when you kill your "own" people.


I think President Carter's point was that by not being in endless foriegn wars, it has given China an advantage, in that they arent sinking vast fortunes into such ventures.
It's a lot cheaper to eradicate your own population, on your own soil.
 
2019-04-15 01:38:09 PM  
This needs to get more attention, if nothing else for the impact it'll have on trumpanzees to wrap their damaged little brains around the idea that their God Emperor is calling Jimmy Carter for advice.
 
2019-04-15 01:40:03 PM  

fernt: I always liked Jimmy Carter. I share his view that America has no inherent right to force its views about government on other countries. (Now if they're stupid enough to take our foreign aid, they've compromised themselves.)

John F. Kennedy felt the same way about forcing our views on other countries, and he wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve system and we saw how that turned out.

Gen. Smedly Butler nailed it: war is a racket. Problem at this point is, it's also a 50-state jobs program. It will be hard to dismantle it, by design.


In the Kids in the Hall movie Braincandy, the pharmaceutical company had a pill that made flatulence smell like freshly baked cinnamon rolls. Now I'm wondering if this is really a thing, and curious how you happened to get a prescription.
 
2019-04-15 01:40:21 PM  

Arkanaut: keldaria: Unscratchable_Itch: When it comes to China's economic growth overtaking the U.S., the U.S. has no one to blame but itself.

Ehh, their 1 billion + population advantage might also have something to do with it.

They have almost a 4 to 1 population advantage over the US. All they really had to do was modernize their economy and the rest fell into place.

Their *growth* is faster than ours right now because they are (still!) poorer than us, for the most part; their overall economy is bound to be bigger than ours because of the population. However, as a wealthy nation, I think we can also do better than we are doing now if we have a better social safety net, and if so many Americans weren't constantly struggling to stay ahead of ruin.


I agree. In an ideal setup you need a solid social safety net to limit how far people can fall. Once they know that they will still have a roof over their heads and a meal on the table even when they completely fail, you are able to unleash their innovative capabilities and leverage them to the max.

Take any successful business man... ANY... if you look at how they succeeded it'll be either because they had a safety net provided by their parents allowing them the confidence to be bold, or they didn't have a safety net but had the big balls of steel to roll the dice anyway in a make it or break it way. They all succeeded but how many times did it take them before they succeeded... those with safety nets may have tried 2, 3 maybe 4 or more times before they finally made it work, the ones without a safety net may have even tried a few times and went bankrupt, but these are just the successful innovators who had safety nets or balls of steel to risk it all... how many others are out there that thought about trying but opted not to because they had a child at home or some other reason.

Build a strong safety net and I guarantee you will set off a wave of innovation.
 
2019-04-15 01:55:51 PM  

Mail Order American Husband: The Korean war called and would like it's facts known. Also didn't China have a brief boarder war with Vietnam?

China doesn't go to war because in the last 20 years they learned it's easier to buy friends than fight enemies, something still lost on Americans.


Note that Carter said since 1979, so Korea isn't included. But, yes, China lost a border war with Vietnam. They learned a valuable lesson - like radios are a good thing and runners are not.
 
2019-04-15 02:05:48 PM  
How DARE he disrespect the men and women in service to our country by expressing a rational opinion on maybe not blowing all our god damned money on war
 
2019-04-15 02:16:32 PM  
Democratic presidents tend to be on the intellectual side.  Republicans tend towards demagoguery.

And as noted above, if you knew you wouldn't be destroyed by a failure, alot of people would strike out on their own.
 
2019-04-15 03:25:11 PM  

Hooferatheart: "Since 1979, do you know how many times China has been at war with anybody?" Carter asked. "None. And we have stayed at war." The U.S., he noted, has only enjoyed 16 years of peace in its 242-year history, making the country "the most warlike nation in the history of the world," Carter said. This is, he said, because of America's tendency to force other nations to "adopt our American principles."

Enough said.


The Roman Republic and Empire might take exception at your claim, Mr. Carter.
 
2019-04-15 03:27:35 PM  

mr intrepid: Democratic presidents tend to be on the intellectual side.  Republicans tend towards demagoguery.

And as noted above, if you knew you wouldn't be destroyed by a failure, alot of people would strike out on their own.


I'd put "recent" in there, because Lincoln, Coolidge, Taft, Hoover, and Eisenhower all were more intellectual than demagogues. 

And a special mention for Teddy, who of course managed to be both at the same time. The man truly contained multitudes.
 
2019-04-15 04:39:21 PM  

The Third Man: Barfmaker: The Third Man: China doesn't go to war.  They just go in and genocide minority populations and semi-autonomous regions like Tibet and the Uighur nation.  Very legal, very cool!

He wasn't praising their humanity. What you're mentioning has nothing to do with what he was saying.

No, what _I'm_ saying is that China has been at war a lot over the last 50 years.  We just don't call it war because, well, we don't call it war when you kill your "own" people.


Dude, war on drugs.

The US is placing the neighbourhoods of minorities and the poor under intense police surveillance with military-equipped police services, imprisoning huge swaths of their population, killing them during police actions, and that's not going to war on your own people?
 
2019-04-15 04:46:30 PM  
Today I learned that a man with fascist tendencies is not automatically wrong about everything.
 
Displayed 38 of 38 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter




In Other Media
Top Commented
Javascript is required to view headlines in widget.
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report