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(The New York Times)   Want to help nature? Let your lawn get overgrown. Finally, a case for laziness   (nytimes.com) divider line
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2019-04-15 07:57:35 AM  
I have a couple hundred sedge plugs on order and several hundred square feet of dirt awaiting them. No HOA and no municipal lawn height rules.
 
2019-04-15 08:54:35 AM  
One of my neighbors is really into letting the clover take over his yard for his bee hive and he encourages the rest of the neighborhood to follow suit.  I'm doing my part.
 
2019-04-15 08:55:11 AM  

ZAZ: municipal lawn height rules.


Any idea how to get around this?
 
2019-04-15 08:55:49 AM  
Just don't have a lawn. Let it be meadow, turn it into edible garden, do pretty much anything other than a monoculture.
 
2019-04-15 08:55:51 AM  
To Nurture Nature, Neglect Your Lawn
Why poison the earth when you can have wildflowers at your feet and songbirds in your trees without even trying?


Says the woman that has never lived in an HOA neighborhood.
 
2019-04-15 08:58:27 AM  
Way ahead of the study.
I officially have the mullet lawn  - Business in the front, Wild in the back...
 
2019-04-15 08:59:20 AM  
I'd keep the lawn mowed around the house but after a decent distance I'd be willing to let it go wild. A cut lawn helps keep the critters away.
 
2019-04-15 09:00:08 AM  

ZAZ: I have a couple hundred sedge plugs on order and several hundred square feet of dirt awaiting them


That's the way to go. A deliberate landscaping effort is very different from just letting the grass and whatever weeds grow.

There's a neighborhood where I walk often where several people have gone grass-free with good results. Somewhat like pictured below, but the whole yard, not just a garden on the side.

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2019-04-15 09:02:03 AM  
dstanley:

Any idea how to get around this?

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Lower the underlying dirt
 
2019-04-15 09:03:12 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Says the woman that has never lived in an HOA neighborhood.


If only there were a way to not live in an HOA neighborhood.

/ Like almost everybody else on Earth
 
2019-04-15 09:07:42 AM  
I had a service caught my lawn through the end of last year.  They left me with it way too short for winter, and a lot of the grass is now gone and topsoil washed away.

I didn't even get a chance to fire them.  They sent a letter mid winter saying they were ending residential service and just doing commercial properties henceforth.

farkers.  I'm doing it myself this year.
 
2019-04-15 09:12:55 AM  

Rapmaster2000: One of my neighbors is really into letting the clover take over his yard for his bee hive and he encourages the rest of the neighborhood to follow suit.  I'm doing my part.


I'm getting clover seed.
 
2019-04-15 09:13:21 AM  
Done and Done...Well ok, i'm actually waiting for a part for the lawnmower..it might arrive today..
And the grass is kinda wet..So..Maybe tomorrow...maybe...
 
2019-04-15 09:19:28 AM  

ZAZ: I have a couple hundred sedge plugs on order and several hundred square feet of dirt awaiting them. No HOA and no municipal lawn height rules.


Carex pennsylvanica is only about 6" high
 
2019-04-15 09:21:50 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Just don't have a lawn. Let it be meadow, turn it into edible garden, do pretty much anything other than a monoculture.


And you'll get a visit from the city for not clearing the weeds.  Happened to me in CA.  I pointed out that the "weeds" were the State Flower.
 
2019-04-15 09:22:13 AM  
If you want to help nature, have a garden.  I have over 100 plants in my garden, most native to my state.  I get so many insects/bees/birds including hummingbirds.  I have mice that like to nest in the garden and rabbits too.  After I created the garden, some hawks moved in and they help keep things under control.  So much better than an overgrown lawn.
 
2019-04-15 09:29:18 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: I had a service caught my lawn through the end of last year.  They left me with it way too short for winter, and a lot of the grass is now gone and topsoil washed away.

I didn't even get a chance to fire them.  They sent a letter mid winter saying they were ending residential service and just doing commercial properties henceforth.

farkers.  I'm doing it myself this year.


We fired our lawn company for similar reasons.  They come every week, even if we're in a drought and it's barely grown (his excuse was he still has to pay his crews).  They gave us a fungus from someone else's lawn.  They billed us for days we know they didn't come because we were home.  And they broke our gate in half because they couldn't be bothered to unlatch it, left the loose half to the side, and didn't tell us.  And I was home watching out the patio door so I saw him do it.

Now I just need a lawnmower.  Well, second; first I'm regrading and reseeding our yard since they killed off all the grass and no topsoil.
 
2019-04-15 09:32:18 AM  
i literally tried this excuse during a routine inspection and got evicted dont try it
 
2019-04-15 09:33:09 AM  
But I just got me a new weed whacker this weekend and can't wait to use it plus the HOA is doing their inspection in a few weeks and I am sure they will find something wrong. Next place no damn HOA to deal with. And my yard is only like 20X20 and they always biatch about this one tree but I cant chop it down, just trim it back.
 
2019-04-15 09:35:49 AM  

Rapmaster2000: One of my neighbors is really into letting the clover take over his yard for his bee hive and he encourages the rest of the neighborhood to follow suit.  I'm doing my part.


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2019-04-15 09:36:17 AM  
Only if they pay the fine my city will impose on me for not mowing the lawn
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2019-04-15 09:37:13 AM  
I use a reel mower (non-motorized) for the small part of the small lawn that needs mowing. The previous owner's landscaper created a lawn that wasn't meant to be mowed in the sunny part, and the shady parts don't grow much. I still cut along the edge of the driveway. My mother lost a car to tall grass once.
 
2019-04-15 09:41:23 AM  
Letting your lawn get overgrown sounds like a good plan.  Who doesn't like sleeping in on Saturdays instead of mowing the lawn.

But then a few years go by and all of a sudden you've got a damn jungle in there.   And you go to clear it back a little just so you can see over it, and some pissed off vine whips back at you in self defense and then you're wearing an eyepatch for a few weeks.  And then to fire back at Mother Nature, you have to use your organic chem class to cosplay Fight Club to create some explosives to blow up a stump.

Professor Wagner was a weird, weird man.  It's a damn good thing he only caught veganism instead of cancer.
 
2019-04-15 09:47:17 AM  

dstanley: ZAZ: municipal lawn height rules.

Any idea how to get around this?


Put down some paths and borders. Have a small lawn patch conspicuously in the middle somewhere. Keep the thorny stuff from taking over.
 
2019-04-15 09:50:16 AM  
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2019-04-15 09:52:07 AM  

dstanley: ZAZ: municipal lawn height rules.

Any idea how to get around this?


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2019-04-15 09:54:52 AM  
Sounds like a good way to attract...

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2019-04-15 09:58:22 AM  

natazha: kittyhas1000legs: Just don't have a lawn. Let it be meadow, turn it into edible garden, do pretty much anything other than a monoculture.

And you'll get a visit from the city for not clearing the weeds.  Happened to me in CA.  I pointed out that the "weeds" were the State Flower.


Depends on the city. Eureka don't care.
 
2019-04-15 10:16:57 AM  
I respect the Times' news reporting, but their editorials are often Trump-level fake news. I stopped reading at "Grass requires a lot of chemicals and a lot of water to thrive." You could argue what "a lot" and "thrive" means, and it's true that grass requires chemicals like H2O and carbon, but they're naturally occurring in sufficient quantity for grass to thrive in most of the country, and certainly in New York.
 
2019-04-15 10:21:35 AM  

ThighsofGlory: natazha: kittyhas1000legs: Just don't have a lawn. Let it be meadow, turn it into edible garden, do pretty much anything other than a monoculture.

And you'll get a visit from the city for not clearing the weeds.  Happened to me in CA.  I pointed out that the "weeds" were the State Flower.

Depends on the city. Eureka don't care.


Wife and I plan on having a place outside of city limits. Cabin/yurt, grid-tied solar/wind, land will be left natural or edible plants. Screw HOAs. A bit of proper garden, probably some raspberry/blackberry around the border of the property as a natural fence. Depending on the surroundings, maybe cut down some trees for a good view of the southern sky for a few satellite dishes (c-band, large ku-band, small ku-band).
 
2019-04-15 10:38:36 AM  

kittyhas1000legs: Just don't have a lawn. Let it be meadow, turn it into edible garden, do pretty much anything other than a monoculture.


We let the back corner of our lawn go wild one summer, figured the deer would like it. They kept right on eating the mown portion and ignored the wild part. Go figure.
 
2019-04-15 10:40:08 AM  

crzybtch: If you want to help nature, have a garden.  I have over 100 plants in my garden, most native to my state.  I get so many insects/bees/birds including hummingbirds.  I have mice that like to nest in the garden and rabbits too.  After I created the garden, some hawks moved in and they help keep things under control.  So much better than an overgrown lawn.


Which region of the country.  What zone?  What do you have that does well in containers?

Show us pictures!

I'm in the Midwest, zone 9.  I have a partially covered balcony with plenty of sun.   Last year we had so much luck with sunflowers.   They brought in lots of welcome guests.
 
2019-04-15 11:00:59 AM  

ZAZ: I use a reel mower (non-motorized) for the small part of the small lawn that needs mowing. The previous owner's landscaper created a lawn that wasn't meant to be mowed in the sunny part, and the shady parts don't grow much. I still cut along the edge of the driveway. My mother lost a car to tall grass once.


Is it on cinder blocks?
 
2019-04-15 11:09:40 AM  
if by 'nature', you mean 'ticks' then by all means.
 
2019-04-15 11:16:20 AM  

jaytkay: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Says the woman that has never lived in an HOA neighborhood.

If only there were a way to not live in an HOA neighborhood.

/ Like almost everybody else on Earth


Municipal bylaws can also happen unfortunately.
 
2019-04-15 11:22:50 AM  

SpockYouOut: crzybtch: If you want to help nature, have a garden.  I have over 100 plants in my garden, most native to my state.  I get so many insects/bees/birds including hummingbirds.  I have mice that like to nest in the garden and rabbits too.  After I created the garden, some hawks moved in and they help keep things under control.  So much better than an overgrown lawn.

Which region of the country.  What zone?  What do you have that does well in containers?

Show us pictures!

I'm in the Midwest, zone 9.  I have a partially covered balcony with plenty of sun.   Last year we had so much luck with sunflowers.   They brought in lots of welcome guests.


I am in Michigan, zone 5, not sure if most of my plants would do well in your zone.  Too hot for them.

Here is a good article for your zone:

https://balconygardenweb.com/best-shr​u​bs-for-containers-container-gardening-​plants/
 
2019-04-15 11:25:22 AM  
A good article for zone 9 as well:

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/potted-​p​lants-zone-9-71698.html

Most state universities in your state are a good way to find out the best native plants for your area.  Native plants almost always do well and are better for wildlife.

Native Plants for zone 9

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/native-​p​lants-zone-9-33496.html
 
2019-04-15 11:29:14 AM  

wantingout: if by 'nature', you mean 'ticks' then by all means.


If you have birds and frogs and other animals not being killed or driven off, they eat the ticks.

This arrogant human idea that nature needs us to pick up leaves, chemically-treat lawns, and spray for insects is ridiculous. Nature doesn't need us to be its janitors. Animals and plants do fine without us.
 
2019-04-15 11:35:56 AM  

Somaticasual: Way ahead of the study.
I officially have the mullet lawn  - Business in the front, Wild in the back...


I used the exact same term in thinking of my own situation. Just bought the house last year and the previous owner hastily added some new sod in the backyard. It looked nice then predictably didn't make it through the winter so now pine cones, needles, and wild grass are coming back. But I don't want to piss off my new neighbors quite yet so I'm keeping up with the Joneses in the front yard.
 
2019-04-15 11:42:04 AM  
I'd let my lawn go wild, but crab grass really isn't very pretty. And stop telling me what to do.
 
2019-04-15 11:43:08 AM  
I spot treat my yard for dandelions, that's it. Otherwise, the massive amount of clover in the yard keeps the rabbits out of the garden. The squirrels are another thing, furry bastards.
 
2019-04-15 11:43:27 AM  
I tried this last year when our lawn mower broke and I never bother getting it fixed. Borrowed the neighbor's mowers when I needed to. I'll probably just get a new mower this spring.
 
2019-04-15 12:42:10 PM  

kittyhas1000legs: ThighsofGlory: natazha: kittyhas1000legs: Just don't have a lawn. Let it be meadow, turn it into edible garden, do pretty much anything other than a monoculture.

And you'll get a visit from the city for not clearing the weeds.  Happened to me in CA.  I pointed out that the "weeds" were the State Flower.

Depends on the city. Eureka don't care.

Wife and I plan on having a place outside of city limits. Cabin/yurt, grid-tied solar/wind, land will be left natural or edible plants. Screw HOAs. A bit of proper garden, probably some raspberry/blackberry around the border of the property as a natural fence. Depending on the surroundings, maybe cut down some trees for a good view of the southern sky for a few satellite dishes (c-band, large ku-band, small ku-band).


Cool. Bring some In-N-Out.
 
2019-04-15 01:04:33 PM  

jaytkay: ZAZ: I have a couple hundred sedge plugs on order and several hundred square feet of dirt awaiting them
That's the way to go. A deliberate landscaping effort is very different from just letting the grass and whatever weeds grow.
There's a neighborhood where I walk often where several people have gone grass-free with good results. Somewhat like pictured below, but the whole yard, not just a garden on the side.
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Just a few rules suggestions: Don't go down to the Home Depot and buy $1000 of farking "outdoors" to transplant. Work with what you have to start--see what actually grows in that area, and what kind of soil you have. Composting some of your food works better than fertilizers, and isn't wasted. Everyone overfertilizes--yes, even you.
Don't put in exotic plants, I don't give a fark how pretty they are, or how fast they grow, or how they're non-shedding or something. Use trees and shrubs that actually grow in the area.

If you all go down and the nursery and buy $10,000 worth of plants and bricks and fertilizer and "soil", then get four day laborers to install it for you, I'm going to come by every night and pee all over it until it all dies. And you will think it's cats. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG

Bleh.

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/If you want to help nature, STOP BUYING THINGS
//Fix old, no new
 
2019-04-15 01:44:21 PM  
Corporations are carcinogenic to citizens, need to poison them with chemo-therapy.  Break them up into smaller cells that can be killed by a healthy immune system.

/Hemp not herbicides.
//Grow grass you can blow instead of mow.
///Three for the tree
 
2019-04-15 02:25:06 PM  
Oh yeah, good idea... I just love the critters, mosquitoes, ticks, and other such things that thrive in tall grass. I will keep mine neatly mowed thank you...
 
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