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(Daily Star)   Moses' route from Exodus which saw him lead the Israelites out of Egypt discovered, according to experts at the highly credible "Doubting Thomas Research Foundation" (possible nsfw content on page)   (dailystar.co.uk) divider line
    More: Unlikely, Moses, Mount Sinai, The Exodus, DTRF researcher Ryan Mauro, route of Exodus, peak of Jabal al-Lawz, evidence of the Exodus, Book of Exodus  
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2019-04-15 07:45:17 AM  
Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf
 
2019-04-15 08:24:53 AM  
From the Star....really? I'm curious but refuse to go there now
 
2019-04-15 08:29:00 AM  

berylman: From the Star....really? I'm curious but refuse to go there now


I guess it's better than being from a burning bush.
 
2019-04-15 08:31:57 AM  
"Most plausible," if you don't count never happened.
 
2019-04-15 08:34:28 AM  

berylman: From the Star....really? I'm curious but refuse to go there now


They found a mountain with a blackened top, some drawings of cows, a big split rock, and what they think is a mass grave.  So, they believe that's the real Mt. Sinai. 

That's pretty much it.
 
2019-04-15 08:34:40 AM  
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When Cameron was in Egypt Land, let my Cameron go.....
 
2019-04-15 08:35:42 AM  
You'd think all those people spending all that time walking in the desert would have left some actual evidence.

That's one clean migration
 
2019-04-15 08:35:52 AM  
This is not new. Several people have proposed this exact route.
 
2019-04-15 08:36:00 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf


So the Clintons were on this exodus as well?
 
2019-04-15 08:36:06 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf


Not sure if you're serious but:

Exodus 12:35-36:
"35The Israelites did as Moses instructed and asked the Egyptians for articles of silver and gold and for clothing. 36The Lord had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people, and they gave them what they asked for; so they plundered the Egyptians."
 
2019-04-15 08:37:08 AM  
The only archaeologists who claim the exodus even happened are those who have to for religious reasons.
 
2019-04-15 08:39:36 AM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: They found a mountain with a blackened top, some drawings of cows, a big split rock, and what they think is a mass grave.  So, they believe that's the real Mt. Sinai. That's pretty much it.


The recap is appreciated! :D. What I figured
 
2019-04-15 08:40:04 AM  

MrPleasant: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf

Not sure if you're serious but:

Exodus 12:35-36:
"35The Israelites did as Moses instructed and asked the Egyptians for articles of silver and gold and for clothing. 36The Lord had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people, and they gave them what they asked for; so they plundered the Egyptians."


'Co's when *I* feel like hiking through the desert, I wanna make sure to carry lots of weighty, useless metal objects.
 
2019-04-15 08:41:42 AM  
"These events really did happen. It doesn't require belief in one of these faiths to accept the evidence."

Evidence such as there are rocks and mountains and water in that area of the world.
 
2019-04-15 08:42:00 AM  

MrPleasant: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf

Not sure if you're serious but:

Exodus 12:35-36:
"35The Israelites did as Moses instructed and asked the Egyptians for articles of silver and gold and for clothing. 36The Lord had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people, and they gave them what they asked for; so they plundered the Egyptians."


So that whole seven plagues thing was really just for shiates and giggles?

Oh sure, I could have just made them inclined to let you go at anytime, but who doesn't want to see it rain toads?
 
2019-04-15 08:46:12 AM  
If Exodus is true, Moses was a monster.if he were alive today, we'd be targeting him with drone strikes.
 
2019-04-15 08:48:50 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: berylman: From the Star....really? I'm curious but refuse to go there now

I guess it's better than being from a burning bush.


A regimen of penicillin will clear that burning bush right up.
 
2019-04-15 08:50:56 AM  

Loucifer: If Exodus is true, Moses was a monster.if he were alive today, we'd be targeting him with drone strikes.


He was the leader of a terrorist militia that committed several genocides.
 
2019-04-15 08:51:00 AM  
"Well, we think if this mountain was Mt. Sinai--nobody knows for sure--then this is the most probable route--but we need to do a lot more research because of course we found no real archaeological evidence that a million people traveled this route for 40 years. But we have faith!"
 
2019-04-15 08:53:44 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf


Exodus 12:35-36: The Hebrews were told to ask the Egyptians for their stuff (as payment for time worked), and the Egyptians complied.

There's no accounting for exactly how much, but they were able to build a tabernacle out of fancy metals and stones and fabrics just a few years later.
 
2019-04-15 08:54:00 AM  
"keep an open mind"...

...says the guy who clings to the bible as received truth.

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2019-04-15 08:58:25 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: 'Co's when *I* feel like hiking through the desert, I wanna make sure to carry lots of weighty, useless metal objects.


We hear "desert" and think "the Sahara". It's more like Arizona, only with far more random nomadic tribes. I guess rather Skyrim-y, if that helps. Having means of exchange helps out a lot, and as currency was not standardized, holding value in things like textiles and raw precious metals may have been more efficient than carrying minting equipment.

// they also had vast flocks
// probably the animals did a lot of that carrying
 
2019-04-15 08:58:45 AM  
I thought it was widely accepted among Hebrew scholars that the Exodus is not and could not be a true story. Mostly because such an event would have left a lot of indisputable evidence - other accounts of it, and the trail of such a large band that traveled so long.

That doesn't mean it's not an important story, with lessons to learn from the story itself and also from the recognition of it as a story - why were its details chosen, and why was it so accepted as truth for so long.
 
2019-04-15 09:00:16 AM  

Snapper Carr: You'd think all those people spending all that time walking in the desert would have left some actual evidence.

That's one clean migration


While I'm not supporting their claim in any way, deserts aren't exactly known for preserving evidence of anything.  Shiat, you couldn't find evidence that a world war was fought in the desert and that was only 70 years ago.

You could go to the desert and then go back to the exact same spot a month later and what used to be a valley is now a dune and was a dune is now a valley or flat land.  The sand storms will sand blast everything into oblivion.

Which makes any of their "findings" even more implausible, somehow "evidence" survived for 3500 years?  Really?  Every bit of evidence that may or may not have existed has been turned to dust, churned up, turned into something else, and then turned to dust again multiple times.
 
2019-04-15 09:02:02 AM  
Joke's on them: Mount Arafat is in Turkey!!!

wait...
 
2019-04-15 09:12:08 AM  

Snapper Carr: You'd think all those people spending all that time walking in the desert would have left some actual evidence.

That's one clean migration


I heard they had horses with no names
 
2019-04-15 09:13:58 AM  

MrPleasant: The Lord had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people


I always at least smile when I read that line.
 
2019-04-15 09:14:43 AM  

Loucifer: If Exodus is true, Moses was a monster.if he were alive today, we'd be targeting him with drone strikes.


We'd build a wall around the promise land and separate the adults from children in put them all in cages.
 
2019-04-15 09:17:09 AM  
i think sasquatch was there helping them
 
2019-04-15 09:19:11 AM  

wantingout: i think sasquatch samsquatch was there helping them


FTFY
 
2019-04-15 09:20:44 AM  

Snapper Carr: You'd think all those people spending all that time walking in the desert would have left some actual evidence.

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2019-04-15 09:47:08 AM  
Egypt was named in recent times because it just had to be the place in the bible. Many of the names that are vaguely like existing cites were common in the area for things like "town near a river" or "safe town near a river". They were the ancient version of naming a town "springfield".

There are ten thousands years of storytelling telling in the area and one of the highlights of trade was the new stories. It wasn't uncommon to trade stories for a meal along the less traveled trade routes.

The group of slaves that were let go that lead to the story were unlikely to have ever been anywhere near modern Egypt. The stories most likely were expanded along the Tigris and Euphrates trade routes.
 
2019-04-15 09:47:11 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: MrPleasant: Marcus Aurelius: Funny how the bible fails to mention how much of the Pharaoh's silverware they stole on their way out.  Must just be an oversight.

/hint: it was enough to cast a golden calf

Not sure if you're serious but:

Exodus 12:35-36:
"35The Israelites did as Moses instructed and asked the Egyptians for articles of silver and gold and for clothing. 36The Lord had made the Egyptians favorably disposed toward the people, and they gave them what they asked for; so they plundered the Egyptians."

So that whole seven plagues thing was really just for shiates and giggles?

Oh sure, I could have just made them inclined to let you go at anytime, but who doesn't want to see it rain toads?


Not all of them, but yes - some of the plagues were for shiats'n'giggles.  On the part of Yahweh.
There were several times that Pharaoh was willing to let the Israelites go, but god forced him to change his mind because god had a few more tricks he wanted to show off.
 
2019-04-15 09:50:34 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: berylman: From the Star....really? I'm curious but refuse to go there now

I guess it's better than being from a burning bush.


But not as good as the singing bush.

Three Amigos (9/12) Movie CLIP - The Singing Bush and the Invisible Swordsman (1986) HD
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2019-04-15 09:55:37 AM  

Snapper Carr: You'd think all those people spending all that time walking in the desert would have left some actual evidence.


When Israel took control of the Sinai Peninsula they did sent many archeological teams out and they found what many expected... there was evidence of Jews but only in small numbers consistent with tribal trade routes and a few log abandoned outpost.
 
2019-04-15 10:00:41 AM  

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: berylman: From the Star....really? I'm curious but refuse to go there now

They found a mountain with a blackened top, some drawings of cows, a big split rock, and what they think is a mass grave.  So, they believe that's the real Mt. Sinai. 

That's pretty much it.


In that area of the world, I doubt you could throw a stick without hitting some archaeological site with some proto-religious meaning.  I mean, if you could find a stick in the desert.
 
2019-04-15 10:04:32 AM  

uttertosh: Joke's on them: Mount Arafat is in Turkey!!!

wait...


Isn't it right next to Mt. Ararat?  You know the mountain that doesn't get involved in intifada.
 
2019-04-15 10:05:06 AM  
British supermarket tabloid....

yeah, nah.
 
2019-04-15 10:09:33 AM  
Almost 20 years ago, on the History channel, a military historian proposed a possible real life Hebrew connection Exodus.   Remember, there is no proof of Hebrews in Egypt ever, or that slave labor built the pyramids, or that Ramses (from the Bible) and Ramses from Egyptian history are the same person.  But this theory was interesting because if accounted for a lot of things.  And like conspiracies, I love a good "fill in the blanks" historical theory.

He posited that a group of mercenaries, a tribe of them wandered into Egypt from the East somewhere.  And they started working for the Pharoah as kind of a pre-historic Blackwater since they had a lot more history as savage warriors than his army/police.  There was a tribe like that from that era with a similar sounding name to Hebrew.   And then this group wasn't getting paid for their services, and decided to demand payment.  Instead of paying them, Pharoah pissed them off.  So, they decided to leave...and then took their payment out of the gold, etc... of the Egyptians...and went back to a nomadic lifestyle East.  But Pharoah had to get his riches back so he pursued them.

It made some logical sense as the guy explained it.  But like all other attempts of this, there is no archaeological support for any theory of Exodus.
 
2019-04-15 10:12:05 AM  
Oh Exodus is real, very real!  As real as it gets!  And don't you forget it!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
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2019-04-15 10:29:16 AM  

Chris Ween: uttertosh: Joke's on them: Mount Arafat is in Turkey!!!

wait...

Isn't it right next to Mt. Ararat?  You know the mountain that doesn't get involved in intifada.


It was a geography-typo/ joke, and was intended (hence the 'wait') Mount Arafat is not in Turkey, with it's real location adding to the punchline!

/sorry for the explains, but there was some though behind the punning and misdirection :)
 
2019-04-15 10:40:51 AM  

uttertosh: Chris Ween: uttertosh: Joke's on them: Mount Arafat is in Turkey!!!

wait...

Isn't it right next to Mt. Ararat?  You know the mountain that doesn't get involved in intifada.

It was a geography-typo/ joke, and was intended (hence the 'wait') Mount Arafat is not in Turkey, with it's real location adding to the punchline!

/sorry for the explains, but there was some though behind the punning and misdirection :)


Mine was a Noah's Ark/Mt. Ararat joke....combined with a PLO joke.   I had no idea there was a Mt. Arafat with an F.  I was just playing on that as Yassir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_A​r​arat

Now that we have both explained the funny out of our jokes, I feel we are ready for our own cable special.  :)
 
2019-04-15 10:47:31 AM  
Desmond Dekker - Israelites 1968
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2019-04-15 10:52:18 AM  
You found something that wasn't real? Amazing how that only ever happens when it's religious stuff.

Exodus is a total fabrication for those who didn't know.
 
2019-04-15 11:02:38 AM  

Chris Ween: uttertosh: Joke's on them: Mount Arafat is in Turkey!!!

wait...

Isn't it right next to Mt. Ararat?  You know the mountain that doesn't get involved in intifada.


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2019-04-15 11:05:55 AM  
There have been videos on YouTube a long time about this. This is accurate but not breaking news, just more people saying duh, Mt. Sinai must be in the place they now call Sinai Penisula.

The split mountain of Horeb is somewhat of a clincher.


My Bar Mitzvah portion was Yitro (Jethro) where Moses is reunited with his Midianite father-in-law Jethro. Jethro gives Moses advice to not be judge for every squabble, but appoint judges. Where is the land of Midian? Oh right by all the sites in Saudi Arabia fenced up and protected in Saudi Arabia just like TFA mentioned.

So kids, don't go looking in 2019 AD for "Mt. Sinai" on the "Sinai Peninsula". That's like looking for Helen of Troy in Troy, Michigan.
 
2019-04-15 11:09:02 AM  
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2019-04-15 11:19:35 AM  

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It's not an Israelites thread without Desmond Dekker.
 
2019-04-15 11:22:19 AM  

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I wonder what the other five were.
 
2019-04-15 11:39:04 AM  
Billy Liar:

It's not an Israelites thread without Desmond Dekker.

I figured someone had to do it.
 
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