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2019-04-15 02:44:19 AM  
Oh look, a tipping thread! Been a few months... should we just cut'n'paste the last one, or are people actually going to type new stuff?
 
2019-04-15 02:45:22 AM  
Oh look, a tipping thread! Been a few months... should we just cut'n'paste the last one, or are people actually going to type new stuff?
 
2019-04-15 02:46:09 AM  
I wouldn't give a damn if you don't clean the room. I can use the same towels and sheets for 3 days.
 
2019-04-15 02:46:58 AM  
I tip my hotel housekeeper the universally agreed-upon amount of $650.75, because I'm not a cheapskate. But whatever. You guys tip whatever you want, I guess.
 
2019-04-15 02:47:03 AM  
The size of the housekeeping tip should be proportional to the number of empty beers they have to haul away.

/until there is a cure for jet lag beer is the next best thing
 
2019-04-15 02:48:24 AM  
I worked in a hotel, where I met my ex-wife who was working as a housekeeper.  She said no one ever tipped, and I pointed out that the housekeeper supervisors, who were management, went into all the rooms before she did.  Next day she goes up before the supervisors, and runs to several of her rooms that they have not yet expected, and discovers that about half the guests left her a small tip on the nightstand.  The supervisors were pocketing all the cash for themselves.

I mention this to the higher ups, and they tell me to keep it quiet, because they didn't want to get into a dispute between the supervisors and the housekeepers.
 
2019-04-15 02:52:38 AM  
I don't tip because I tell the front desk at check in that I don't need housekeeping. The hotel gives me extra points for doing so.
 
2019-04-15 02:53:55 AM  
I generally tip $1 per day and decline housekeeping for the duration.
 
2019-04-15 02:55:21 AM  
Service fees not tips. Tipping is a bullshiat system. If you expect to be paid, be paid. This voluntary payment bullshiat is idiotic.
 
2019-04-15 02:55:27 AM  

winedrinkingman: I mention this to the higher ups, and they tell me to keep it quiet, because they didn't want to get into a dispute between the supervisors and the housekeepers.


I hope you didn't keep quiet.  What management was doing was outright theft.  They should have been fired for it, though I doubt that would ever happen.
 
2019-04-15 02:57:34 AM  
We usually keep the "do not disturb" sign on the door for the length of our stay if it's 2 - 3 days then leave a tip when we check out. There's no reason why they should have to check on our room every day.
 
2019-04-15 03:01:45 AM  
JFC, I always leave $5 a day, every day.  I'm actually appalled to read this shiat.  Do people not do this?
 
2019-04-15 03:10:17 AM  

Dr.Fey: JFC, I always leave $5 a day, every day.  I'm actually appalled to read this shiat.  Do people not do this?


bingo. i've found by observation folks in OH tend to undertip and not tip. i'm from NJ. got no problem with spreading around a little here and there. got to do the right thing.
 
2019-04-15 03:10:33 AM  

Dr.Fey: JFC, I always leave $5 a day, every day.  I'm actually appalled to read this shiat.  Do people not do this?


I'm actually appaled as how we are supposed to tip absolutely everybody.

For crying out loud, who are we NOT supposed to tip  ?
 
2019-04-15 03:15:05 AM  
I never tip them because I never use. Them

Step 1. Rent room
Step 2. Go to room
Step 3.  Put up DND sign and never remove it
 
2019-04-15 03:25:34 AM  
Lol, mandatory tipping.

You guys have the weirdest systems.
 
2019-04-15 03:29:09 AM  

Dr.Fey: JFC, I always leave $5 a day, every day.  I'm actually appalled to read this shiat.  Do people not do this?


I never heard of leaving tips for housekeeping till a couple of years ago.  It still seems crazy to me.
 
2019-04-15 03:31:17 AM  

padraig: I'm actually appaled as how we are supposed to tip absolutely everybody.

For crying out loud, who are we NOT supposed to tip  ?


You've got a little computer thing...and I'm guessing you're in America...could you try putting just the smallest bit of effort into dealing with real life social norms instead of  spending hours and hours geting some kidna weird 'bling points/respect' in some online role playing game? .

It's not that difficult. But frankly the two more common people you tip are the housekeeper and your server/bartender. The house keeper gets about 3 dollars a night./5 at upscale hotels.
You also tip ANYONE THAT TOUCHES YOUR BAGGAGE. (ahhh...hem).
So you tip the cabbies 1 dollar a bag (If they assist with the bag)..and the bellhop one dollar a bag.
However...this is not in play for counter check in at airline.
However it IS in play for curbside check in....as they have to tag it and cart it to normal check in.
 
2019-04-15 03:32:10 AM  
Oh, actually I remember narrowly avoiding a wildly expensive cruise because of your crazy customs.

I was sifting through cruise deals and one stood out, it was an American line but I can't remember which one. I was about to buy it and in the fine print it was like, "Oh, by the way there's a mandatory tip of $x per day" which blew the total price out to way more than all of the competitor lines.

Tipping is just a method of hiding the total cost of something. Any other company would say, "This is the cost, you could literally go without spending a single cent more but we know you won't."

American company, "We're 10% cheaper than the competition (lol, JK, the mandatory tip makes it 30% more expensive)"
 
2019-04-15 03:32:16 AM  
Tip my hotel housekeeper? If by hotel, you mean 'my apartment', and by housekeeper, you mean 'the person in charge of emptying my cats litter box'....then I think I can handle that. I just slipped myself a fifty.

The cat didn't give one single fark
 
2019-04-15 03:34:50 AM  

tarnok: I never heard of leaving tips for housekeeping till a couple of years ago.


Really? I"m old...but also leave tips for housekeeping.  It was just something you did...
I know we're all 'family inn' 35 dollar a night places now.
But 2 bucks each night was standard..and would make sure you got clean glasses, fresh towels and extra soap.
 
2019-04-15 03:36:08 AM  

styckx: I never tip them because I never use. Them

Step 1. Rent room
Step 2. Go to room
Step 3.  Put up DND sign and never remove it


Except after you leave they have to clean the room. So you're technically using them that one time.
 
2019-04-15 03:41:34 AM  
People shouldn't expect a tip for doing their job and only their job. That's what a wage is for. If your wage isn't enough for you to live on that ain't my problem. Mandatory tips need to be renamed as "fees" or "charges" and clearly indicated on any bill because that's what they are.

If you do something outside the realms of your normal work, at my request, or you impress me in some way then yeah, that'll probably get you a tip, otherwise no you won't - I expect my employer to remunerate me properly for doing my job, you should expect the same.
 
2019-04-15 03:44:04 AM  

frostus: styckx: I never tip them because I never use. Them

Step 1. Rent room
Step 2. Go to room
Step 3.  Put up DND sign and never remove it

Except after you leave they have to clean the room. So you're technically using them that one time.


I'm not using them.  Them cleaning up after I leave doesn't benefit me at all. Plus I just saved them days and days  of the  not having to clean my room.  They owe me money at that point.
 
2019-04-15 03:46:46 AM  

dyhchong: Oh, actually I remember narrowly avoiding a wildly expensive cruise because of your crazy customs.

I was sifting through cruise deals and one stood out, it was an American line but I can't remember which one. I was about to buy it and in the fine print it was like, "Oh, by the way there's a mandatory tip of $x per day" which blew the total price out to way more than all of the competitor lines.

Tipping is just a method of hiding the total cost of something. Any other company would say, "This is the cost, you could literally go without spending a single cent more but we know you won't."

American company, "We're 10% cheaper than the competition (lol, JK, the mandatory tip makes it 30% more expensive)"



Nope..that's not "Your" as in American. Most cruiselines...and yes even the ones in the enlightened New Zealand. Are not flagged in America...heck...being flagged in America is the thing they don't want to do.
They're flagged in the Panama, Bermuda, Italy, Malta and the oh so enlightened... Netherlands
Those ships operate Globally..and yes even in New Zealand. They hire mostly Philpinao crew and pay them crap wages. They are not an American Company...the entire reason they get 'flagged' as Bermuda, Malta, Panama..etc..and even the Netherlands (which has a whole nother set of maritime regs for min wage for imported labor, rather than your barista).

American Cruise lines/cruises seem to acknowledge this and put the 'auto tips' for your Cabin Steward etc. on your ticket. However...smart cruisers keep that one and give a envelope the first day of cruise to the steward..and another at the end of the cruise.
Okay...you ALWAYS keep on autotips...it'll be on the board in the break room about what stateroom removed their tips...you go above that never below.
Removing the auto tips...marks you as 'cheap asshole'.
 
2019-04-15 03:46:57 AM  

Averam: People shouldn't expect a tip for doing their job and only their job. That's what a wage is for. If your wage isn't enough for you to live on that ain't my problem. Mandatory tips need to be renamed as "fees" or "charges" and clearly indicated on any bill because that's what they are.

If you do something outside the realms of your normal work, at my request, or you impress me in some way then yeah, that'll probably get you a tip, otherwise no you won't - I expect my employer to remunerate me properly for doing my job, you should expect the same.


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2019-04-15 03:51:58 AM  

styckx: frostus: styckx: I never tip them because I never use. Them

Step 1. Rent room
Step 2. Go to room
Step 3.  Put up DND sign and never remove it

Except after you leave they have to clean the room. So you're technically using them that one time.

I'm not using them.  Them cleaning up after I leave doesn't benefit me at all. Plus I just saved them days and days  of the  not having to clean my room.  They owe me money at that point.


Fair enough but having known quite a few people over the years who have done that job for a living I know that tossing a few bucks down helps them much more than it hurts me so I always do.
 
2019-04-15 03:57:47 AM  

dyhchong: American company, "We're 10% cheaper than the competition (lol, JK, the mandatory tip makes it 30% more expensive)"


It's not a mandatory tip. You didn't read the fine print. It's a 'auto tip' a suggested tip for your convince.

The employees are tipped employees. And get taxed as such. The wages they get in tips are taxed at a lower percent than 'wages' in America. It's super minimal shared between housekeeping/bartenders/entertainers etc.
And you can remove those auto tips from the cruise cost in all the cruises I've taken. But they do have a 'asshole board' in crews quarters...so YMMV about how well that'll work for you.
 
2019-04-15 04:03:01 AM  
Ehh, if you're already dropping $125 a night, leaving a tented $5 isn't much.
 
2019-04-15 04:17:22 AM  
Some other countries deal with this by requiring employers to pay staff a reasonable wage, the cost of which is then simply embedded in the price charged to customers.
Buy hey America, you do your thing.
 
2019-04-15 04:19:30 AM  

padraig: Dr.Fey: JFC, I always leave $5 a day, every day.  I'm actually appalled to read this shiat.  Do people not do this?

I'm actually appaled as how we are supposed to tip absolutely everybody.

For crying out loud, who are we NOT supposed to tip  ?


The mohel.
/ironic, I know.
 
2019-04-15 04:22:50 AM  
In Asia, I wear my shoes in the house always demand to sit in a four-legged chair to eat a meal! I only eat sushi with a fork! I wear a long waistcoat and loafers to carnival in Rio and Colombia. When dancing salsa always leave room for Jesus! I shush those stupid loud talking patrons in Roman restaurants and admonish the Japanese for slurping ramen. I'm willfully ignorant of cultural norms and expectations in different countries! And damn it, I'm proud of it!
 
2019-04-15 04:28:32 AM  

jjorsett: I wouldn't give a damn if you don't clean the room. I can use the same towels and sheets for 3 days.


I put the Do Not Disturb sign on the doorknob on day one of my stay and do exactly that.
 
2019-04-15 04:36:01 AM  
I have worked for hotels in the past and I can attest to the need for housekeeping to get a tip.  At the hotels I worked at the housekeeping staff made minimum wage and could always use the extra financial help.

It is a physically demanding job and honestly the success of a hotel rests on the shoulders of the housekeeping staff.  All the expensive advertising in the world means nothing if the room is dirty. Speaking of dirty rooms there are groups that roll through and tear hotel rooms apart - road crews, construction workers, college athletic teams, and sometimes beer fueled local festivals.   Housekeepers see things that would make even the most depraved form of evil blush.  Cleaning shame and vomit are their trade.   Bringing a room from ground zero of a bachelor party to a place you want to sleep for the night is their miracle work.

Anyway, please tip - it doesn't have to be much but it is always appreciated.
 
2019-04-15 04:46:20 AM  

Averam: If you do something outside the realms of your normal work, at my request, or you impress me in some way then yeah, that'll probably get you a tip, otherwise no you won't - I expect my employer to remunerate me properly for doing my job, you should expect the same.


If I accepted a tip for doing any part of my job I would leave myself open to instant dismissal for gross misconduct. My employer has very strict rules about such things, and "no cash to be accepted, ever" is Rule One.
 
2019-04-15 04:47:34 AM  
I only use hotel rooms when I'm hiring a prostitute, and I gave her just the tip.  Does that count?
 
2019-04-15 04:49:38 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: In Asia, I wear my shoes in the house always demand to sit in a four-legged chair to eat a meal! I only eat sushi with a fork! I wear a long waistcoat and loafers to carnival in Rio and Colombia. When dancing salsa always leave room for Jesus! I shush those stupid loud talking patrons in Roman restaurants and admonish the Japanese for slurping ramen. I'm willfully ignorant of cultural norms and expectations in different countries! And damn it, I'm proud of it!


Does that mean that when we Europeans visit the US we should treat black people like shiat?
 
2019-04-15 04:59:16 AM  

orbister: bacchanalias and consequences: In Asia, I wear my shoes in the house always demand to sit in a four-legged chair to eat a meal! I only eat sushi with a fork! I wear a long waistcoat and loafers to carnival in Rio and Colombia. When dancing salsa always leave room for Jesus! I shush those stupid loud talking patrons in Roman restaurants and admonish the Japanese for slurping ramen. I'm willfully ignorant of cultural norms and expectations in different countries! And damn it, I'm proud of it!

Does that mean that when we Europeans visit the US we should treat black people like shiat?


Kind of touche? Congo, Uganda, most of North Africa, India, Myanmar, and much of the Caribbean would like you retell your enchanting tale of how the enlightened Europeans treated people of darker complexions and/or African descent so equitably and pleasantly in the Historical Revision conference room.
 
2019-04-15 05:00:56 AM  
South Africa, of course, will be chairing the meeting.
 
2019-04-15 05:27:20 AM  
I just steal all the towels , linen, and anything else that isn't nailed down. Less nasty stuff for them to clean. They've never thanked me, but I try to help.
 
2019-04-15 05:30:01 AM  
The housekeeper at the Jw Marriott in Shanghai chased me down to give me back a tip.
 
2019-04-15 05:31:23 AM  
If you're cleaning a toilet I've used I am tipping, or possibly marrying you.
 
2019-04-15 05:35:10 AM  

Valiente: padraig: Dr.Fey: JFC, I always leave $5 a day, every day.  I'm actually appalled to read this shiat.  Do people not do this?

I'm actually appaled as how we are supposed to tip absolutely everybody.

For crying out loud, who are we NOT supposed to tip  ?

The mohel.
/ironic, I know.


Bought an armchair from a mohel, once. Strange kind of leather, very confortable. If you rubbed it enough, it turned into 4-seater couch.
 
2019-04-15 05:38:18 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: orbister: Does that mean that when we Europeans visit the US we should treat black people like shiat?

Kind of touche? Congo, Uganda, most of North Africa, India, Myanmar, and much of the Caribbean would like you retell your enchanting tale of how the enlightened Europeans treated people of darker complexions and/or African descent so equitably and pleasantly in the Historical Revision conference room.


You're right, it wasn't pretty. Does that mean that we should now denounce gay men and cut up albino people for witchcraft when visiting Africa, or is it possible that some things rise above cultural relativism?
 
2019-04-15 05:39:05 AM  

padraig: Bought an armchair from a mohel, once. Strange kind of leather, very confortable. If you rubbed it enough, it turned into 4-seater couch.


How's the veal?
 
2019-04-15 05:44:20 AM  

orbister: padraig: Bought an armchair from a mohel, once. Strange kind of leather, very confortable. If you rubbed it enough, it turned into 4-seater couch.

How's the veal?


I'm not sure it's veal, to be honest.
 
2019-04-15 05:53:17 AM  
I tip basically all service types. Waittress,barber,cab drivers,your guides, mail carriers and delivery(ups FedEx etc) mail carriers and ups etc get theirs once a year at Christmas.

And as far as the work that hotel maids have to do...drive a school bus. Boogers blood vomit etc. And I dont so much as get a thank you for transporting 70 kids twice a day in rain sleet snow etc and being on time within one minute at every stop etc. I'm in a rural area where routes can be quite long and hazardous due to road conditions etc. And I dont get nor expect a tip. Teaching your kid not to tell me to go fark myself when I ask them to sit down so they dont get hurt would be appreciated though.
 
2019-04-15 05:55:41 AM  

orbister: bacchanalias and consequences: orbister: Does that mean that when we Europeans visit the US we should treat black people like shiat?

Kind of touche? Congo, Uganda, most of North Africa, India, Myanmar, and much of the Caribbean would like you retell your enchanting tale of how the enlightened Europeans treated people of darker complexions and/or African descent so equitably and pleasantly in the Historical Revision conference room.

You're right, it wasn't pretty. Does that mean that we should now denounce gay men and cut up albino people for witchcraft when visiting Africa, or is it possible that some things rise above cultural relativism?


So tipping and mutilation are the same? Ok.

Look, if you ask most Americans how they feel about tipping, they'll tell you they don't like it. A few of the more thoughtful will realize that it's actually the laborer that's getting screwed while others will just biatch about the cost. But the fact is that the system exists. If I opt out, the thing that's going to change is my service provider's pay. It almost always helps them more than it hurts me. So of course I do it, and usually a bit more than customary. But then I'm not an asshole.
 
2019-04-15 05:58:03 AM  

orbister: bacchanalias and consequences: orbister: Does that mean that when we Europeans visit the US we should treat black people like shiat?

Kind of touche? Congo, Uganda, most of North Africa, India, Myanmar, and much of the Caribbean would like you retell your enchanting tale of how the enlightened Europeans treated people of darker complexions and/or African descent so equitably and pleasantly in the Historical Revision conference room.

You're right, it wasn't pretty. Does that mean that we should now denounce gay men and cut up albino people for witchcraft when visiting Africa, or is it possible that some things rise above cultural relativism?


Uh, dude, this is a thread about tipping (i.e., observing social and cultural norms to be polite in a society). My post was about just that. You know, don't make out with a date on Japanese trains. In Italy don't be weird about touchy people and the kissing greeting. Visiting a family in Delhi? Eat with your hands. In America tip servers, taxi drivers, hotel service people.

You seem to want to shoe-horn in a cultural political argument now focused on the most extreme behaviors of a small group. Like, avoiding frying bacon in a Turkish homestay is politeness. You don't have to join a jihadist group. If you visit a religious site, dress in a respectful manner. It's not like what you mentioned is a common form of politeness in "Africa," which is course, all the same and not a vast continent that holds thousands of different cultures, politeness systems, and belief structures... so, uh, yeah, don't do that if you go to Africa, you'll likely end up in jail.
 
2019-04-15 05:58:42 AM  

comrade: The housekeeper at the Jw Marriott in Shanghai chased me down to give me back a tip.


I always tip , but housekeeping is usually confused and amazed that I would do that .
 
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