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2019-04-13 09:59:14 PM  
It certainly isn't tied to looking healthy or attractive.

See: Mercers.

Checkmate.
 
2019-04-13 10:10:49 PM  
If you came from a wealthy vagina, then your vagina is likely to birth wealthy children.  Unless you're a man, in which case your dick is rich, man.  I mean, look at the thing.  Sheesh.
 
2019-04-13 10:16:16 PM  
FTFA " For some context, another way of viewing the results is to say that 92.6 percent of a person's income is explained by factors other than genetics."
 
2019-04-14 12:29:11 AM  
Hereditary wealth is not the same as being genetically predisposed to wealth. It just means that the children of wealthy people often end up being wealthy themselves...through some weird coincidence. Must be genetics.
 
2019-04-14 12:33:01 AM  
*Rape the right chick and your progeny will prosper*

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2019-04-14 02:15:41 AM  
So America's ruling families are going to commit widespread incest and develop crippling birth defects and genetic diseases as a result?
 
2019-04-14 02:35:41 AM  
I doubt it's genetic, but it is definitely hereditary.
 
2019-04-14 04:25:00 AM  
O brave new world, that has such people in't
 
2019-04-14 04:32:36 AM  
...a Genome Wide Association Study, where they looked at 18 million places in the genome to see which ones matched up with higher paychecks. They uncovered about 30, which account for 7.4 percent of household income variation ...

It doesn't sound like a lot until you remember that this is a British sample and that's probably half the total genetic variation.
 
2019-04-14 05:56:01 AM  
So if your parents give your their vast wealth, that is proof that genetics determine wealth?

Idiots.
 
2019-04-14 06:47:42 AM  

dready zim: So if your parents give your their vast wealth, that is proof that genetics determine wealth?

Idiots.


You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2019-04-14 08:22:00 AM  

Beta Tested: dready zim: So if your parents give your their vast wealth, that is proof that genetics determine wealth?

Idiots.

You know how I know you didn't read the article?


Because this is Fark

Do you know where you are?

Is there anyone looking after you?

Have you had your medication today?
 
2019-04-14 09:07:01 AM  

sheilanagig: Hereditary wealth is not the same as being genetically predisposed to wealth. It just means that the children of wealthy people often end up being wealthy themselves...through some weird coincidence. Must be genetics.


approx 66% of all wealth in murca is inherited.
 
2019-04-14 09:08:12 AM  

UsikFark: O brave new world, that has such people in't


meritocracy is dead
 
2019-04-14 09:16:43 AM  

dready zim: So if your parents give your their vast wealth, that is proof that genetics determine wealth?

Idiots.


well fascists do think differently
 
2019-04-14 09:53:41 AM  
Genes are inherited, true.
 
2019-04-14 02:42:07 PM  
And much like ruling families, virtually every rich kid I knew married the child of another wealthy family
 
2019-04-14 03:10:51 PM  
https://www.fark.com/comments/1037853​8​/Study-has-found-that-growing-up-poor-​can-leave-a-mark-on-nearly-10-percent-​of-genes-in-our-genome-In-other-words-​your-body-never-forgets-experiences-of​-being-poor

So is the epigenome.

Which would be a pretty good working hypothesis: a primate that grows up in an environment in which food is plentiful and in which there is no fear of physical harm is one that grows up with a body that "knows" - perhaps at the level of the germ cells themselves - that calories don't have to be immediately converted into fat for the lean months of winter, that a a new sound/sight/taste/creature is more likely to represent an opportunity and not a hazard, and so on.

At birth, it's capable of the full range of human experiences. But as it matures, it learns different responses. A police siren means that help is on the way and not an approaching threat. An unfamiliar food or represents an opportunity to mate because all the attractive people are drinking kombucha and not this ain't PBR and KFC!. A doctor is someone who will make me feel better and not someone who will make me choose between medicine and mortgage payments and food. A man in a suit represents a peer offering a business opportunity and not the bank trying to foreclose on my house.

Eventually those lessons add up - and the difference is an organism predisposed to exploration and risk-taking, rather than conservation and defensiveness. Those sorts of traits often result in business success today (as they often resulted in advancement in status within the tribe hundreds of thousands of years ago: All hail Og, he who climbed over one more hill, finded moar fruit trees, killed biggest antelope, brought back most meat...)

(Get too many of these lessons ingrained into your epigenome, and your offspring may end up with Affluenza, so it's a self-limiting process: if the cops drive your kid home for his first 11 DUIs, your offspring may not live long enough to reproduce because physics doesn't care about your genome because what would have been the 12th DUI was actually the kid's 120th drunk street race, which resulted in a fatal crash.)
 
2019-04-14 03:21:14 PM  
I was thinking about the low seeming number, 2.5%, and I think it might represent much more explanatory power than initially seems.  Near as I can tell the study is more or less a snapshot, and thus is limited to a single generation more or less, and controls out social factors like family wealth.

However, that small % would compound over generations if it represented a set of behaviors that also cause non-genetic factors to compound.

To simplify for an example, let's say those thirty genes are linked to something simple, like Delayed Gratification, which we think is about 50% heritable.  Simply being born with this predisposition (in the modern UK) only confers small advantage to you, but DG doesn't just benefit you personally, it leads to other behaviors that confer additional social benefits to your kids.  So, you didn't go to college, but you planned ahead and set aside some money for university.  Now your kids not only inherit your 2.5%, but they inherit the additional benefit of being able to go to university (which is likely a much higher %).  Now, their kids (your grand kids) will probably grow up in a much nicer neighborhood than you or your children did.  So they have all the benefit of good economic and social conditions andstill inherit that 2.5% advantage.  That small amount can compound into a large benefit pretty quickly under the right conditions.

The right conditions don't always exist of course (stability and predictability being the major factor), but conditions that allow people that can delay gratification to prosper tend to reinforce the advantage of delaying gratification, doubling up the 50% inherited component with the 50% social component.

Something more complex than just one type of behavior is certainly at play, but if the inherited and social factors are something that form a feedback loop you could see a large and relatively sudden divergence based on only a small genetic component.
 
2019-04-14 04:15:52 PM  
So they are testing if sociopathy and psychopathy is hereditary?
 
2019-04-14 04:25:56 PM  

Twilight Farkle: https://www.fark.com/comments/1037853​8​/Study-has-found-that-growing-up-poor-​can-leave-a-mark-on-nearly-10-percent-​of-genes-in-our-genome-In-other-words-​your-body-never-forgets-experiences-of​-being-poor

So is the epigenome.    *snip*


Beta Tested: *snip*
Something more complex than just one type of behavior is certainly at play, but if the inherited and social factors are something that form a feedback loop you could see a large and relatively sudden divergence based on only a small genetic component.


Yup to both of you.

Small shiats add up.
 
2019-04-14 09:16:07 PM  
What he should do is run genetic markers against people whom have broken the poverty cycle. That will tell you whether there's any relevance.

Old money will by default create indications of wealth markers against progeny albeit their genes don't actually have any relevance. Such as anyone related to the royal family.
 
2019-04-15 05:32:05 AM  

Linux_Yes: dready zim: So if your parents give your their vast wealth, that is proof that genetics determine wealth?

Idiots.

well fascists do think differently


So do psychopaths, that is why they make good surgeons. You are just meat to them.
 
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