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(The Verge)   Foxconn says the none of their buildings across Wisconsin are empty. Then in the very next sentence says they are working hard to fill the empty buildings   (theverge.com) divider line
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2019-04-13 04:21:31 AM  
I mean, it's got 'con' right in the name...
 
2019-04-13 05:06:10 AM  

Nightjars: I mean, it's got 'con' right in the name...


And Wisconsin's getting jobbed.

/ The building across the street of the state capitol is totally not suspicious scheming.
 
2019-04-13 06:14:02 AM  

CrazyCurt: Nightjars: I mean, it's got 'con' right in the name...

And Wisconsin's getting jobbed.

/ The building across the street of the state capitol is totally not suspicious scheming.


They let Foxconn have a building right in front of their capitol building? LOL.

/every belligerent foreign power will write history books about how traitorous republicans sold us all out for religious freedumbs and tax cuts for the rich
 
2019-04-13 06:19:12 AM  

CrazyCurt: Nightjars: I mean, it's got 'con' right in the name...

And Wisconsin's getting jobbed.

/ The building across the street of the state capitol is totally not suspicious scheming.


They gotta have somewhere to put their laser microphones!
 
2019-04-13 07:02:47 AM  
The whole plan was to take a large pile of taxpayer dollars and hand it off to a large corporation.

Mission accomplished!
 
2019-04-13 07:08:47 AM  
The location will be very convenient for dropping off the taxpayer payments!
 
2019-04-13 07:14:09 AM  
I'd like to take this opportunity to once again reiterate, fark SCOTT WALKER.

That is all.  Carry on.
 
2019-04-13 08:44:02 AM  

Jaws_Victim: CrazyCurt: Nightjars: I mean, it's got 'con' right in the name...

And Wisconsin's getting jobbed.

/ The building across the street of the state capitol is totally not suspicious scheming.

They let Foxconn have a building right in front of their capitol building? LOL.

/every belligerent foreign power will write history books about how traitorous republicans sold us all out for religious freedumbs and tax cuts for the rich


I'd hope that reputable American historians will, too.
 
2019-04-13 09:22:43 AM  
Anyone know how much money Foxconn paid the politicians of Wisconsin for this taxpayer arse raping session?
 
2019-04-13 09:27:04 AM  
You can tell which Foxconn buildings are still empty because they haven't had the suicide nets installed around them yet.

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2019-04-13 09:37:18 AM  
You're just getting tripped up by the supposedly "unidirectional" flow of time here, folks. What they meant was Our empty buildings are were will be having been filled already soon. English is notoriously bad at expressing things that happen outside of linear time.
 
2019-04-13 09:42:14 AM  

Lochsteppe: You're just getting tripped up by the supposedly "unidirectional" flow of time here, folks. What they meant was Our empty buildings are were will be having been filled already soon. English is notoriously bad at expressing things that happen outside of linear time.


Are you sure they didn't mean "Our empty buildings are were will be have having been filled already now soon"?  Because that would make more sense.
 
2019-04-13 10:31:30 AM  

Cyber Duck: Lochsteppe: You're just getting tripped up by the supposedly "unidirectional" flow of time here, folks. What they meant was Our empty buildings are were will be having been filled already soon. English is notoriously bad at expressing things that happen outside of linear time.

Are you sure they didn't mean "Our empty buildings are were will be have having been filled already now soon"?  Because that would make more sense.


You're right. Sorry, I will be drunk when I wrote that.
 
2019-04-13 10:36:56 AM  
Foxconn has announced in Wisconsin as part of its deal with President Trump to build a (status unknown) LCD manufacturing plant in the state

Only the best journalists
 
2019-04-13 10:42:08 AM  

pissnmoan: Anyone know how much money Foxconn paid the politicians of Wisconsin for this taxpayer arse raping session?


Guess what! Nothing! We pay them! For 100 years! That's the Scott Walker genius part of the plan.
 
2019-04-13 10:43:23 AM  
Bernie Madoff is cursing quietly in his cell before the 10am badminton game starts.
 
2019-04-13 11:10:03 AM  
I await the day when Vox Media's buildings are all empty.
 
2019-04-13 11:20:14 AM  
Well there's probably a couple of guys there in a scissor lift running networking and power so...technically correct.
 
2019-04-13 11:26:06 AM  
Here's a drawing of a typical Wisconsin voter:
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2019-04-13 11:39:33 AM  

Saiga410: Foxconn has announced in Wisconsin as part of its deal with President Trump to build a (status unknown) LCD manufacturing plant in the state

Only the best journalists


For some Foxconn workers watching who'd labored at the LCD TV factory for months, the president's rhetoric didn't match reality. The LCD components weren't made in the USA, according to sources familiar with the operation. They were shipped from a Foxconn factory in Tijuana. The Wisconsin plant was only handling the last steps of assembly, and some TV displays were still labeled "Made in Mexico." Pay at the factory started at about $14 an hour with no benefits, much less than the $23 average Foxconn promised. Many people weren't hired full time-the company filled positions with temps and interns from a local technical college. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feature​s/2019-02-06/inside-wisconsin-s-disast​rous-4-5-billion-deal-with-foxconn

You know that Merriam Webster removed the definition of "gullible" from the latest version of their dictionary and replaced it with just a MAGA hat.
 
2019-04-13 11:43:34 AM  

Lochsteppe: Cyber Duck: Lochsteppe: You're just getting tripped up by the supposedly "unidirectional" flow of time here, folks. What they meant was Our empty buildings are were will be having been filled already soon. English is notoriously bad at expressing things that happen outside of linear time.

Are you sure they didn't mean "Our empty buildings are were will be have having been filled already now soon"?  Because that would make more sense.

You're right. Sorry, I will be drunk when I wrote that.


I was dreaming when I wrote this, forgive me if it goes astray
 
2019-04-13 12:01:12 PM  

Gordon Bennett: You can tell which Foxconn buildings are still empty because they haven't had the suicide nets installed around them yet.

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Did that dude roll up his shirt halter-top-like?
 
2019-04-13 12:06:13 PM  
Do you think they are kind of mystified by the 'freedom of the press' thing we have here?
 
2019-04-13 12:23:21 PM  

sdd2000: Saiga410: Foxconn has announced in Wisconsin as part of its deal with President Trump to build a (status unknown) LCD manufacturing plant in the state

Only the best journalists

For some Foxconn workers watching who'd labored at the LCD TV factory for months, the president's rhetoric didn't match reality. The LCD components weren't made in the USA, according to sources familiar with the operation. They were shipped from a Foxconn factory in Tijuana. The Wisconsin plant was only handling the last steps of assembly, and some TV displays were still labeled "Made in Mexico." Pay at the factory started at about $14 an hour with no benefits, much less than the $23 average Foxconn promised. Many people weren't hired full time-the company filled positions with temps and interns from a local technical college. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feature​s/2019-02-06/inside-wisconsin-s-disast​rous-4-5-billion-deal-with-foxconn

You know that Merriam Webster removed the definition of "gullible" from the latest version of their dictionary and replaced it with just a MAGA hat.


Who did what deal with foxcon?
 
2019-04-13 12:40:56 PM  

Saiga410: sdd2000: Saiga410: Foxconn has announced in Wisconsin as part of its deal with President Trump to build a (status unknown) LCD manufacturing plant in the state

Only the best journalists

For some Foxconn workers watching who'd labored at the LCD TV factory for months, the president's rhetoric didn't match reality. The LCD components weren't made in the USA, according to sources familiar with the operation. They were shipped from a Foxconn factory in Tijuana. The Wisconsin plant was only handling the last steps of assembly, and some TV displays were still labeled "Made in Mexico." Pay at the factory started at about $14 an hour with no benefits, much less than the $23 average Foxconn promised. Many people weren't hired full time-the company filled positions with temps and interns from a local technical college. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feature​s/2019-02-06/inside-wisconsin-s-disast​rous-4-5-billion-deal-with-foxconn

You know that Merriam Webster removed the definition of "gullible" from the latest version of their dictionary and replaced it with just a MAGA hat.

Who did what deal with foxcon?


So declared President Donald Trump onstage last June at a press event at Foxconn's new factory in Mount Pleasant, Wis. He was there to herald the potential of the Taiwanese manufacturing giant's expansion into cheesehead country. He'd joined Foxconn Chairman Terry Gou and then-Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker to celebrate a partnership he'd helped broker-"one of the great deals ever," Trump said. In exchange for more than $4.5 billion in government incentives, Foxconn had agreed to build a high-tech manufacturing hub on 3,000 acres of farmland south of Milwaukee and create as many as 13,000 good-paying jobs for "amazing Wisconsin workers" as early as 2022.

fark does not want to link Bloomberg  google "foxconn Wisconsin deal"  it is first result
 
2019-04-13 12:56:41 PM  
Just by building anything on the site, Foxconn earns $3 billion. Employing any amount of people earns them more.
If they were to employ the promised 13,000, they'd earn another $1.5 billion. The last number that was kicked around was only 1,000 employees, at wages less than the promised $50,000 annually.
If Foxconn kept all their promises, the state would break even (taxwise) in 43 years. Right now we're looking at 60+, if ever.
 
2019-04-13 01:18:28 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: The whole plan was to take a large pile of taxpayer dollars and hand it off to a large corporation.

Mission accomplished!


I've dealt with Foxconn in the past. I warned everyone I knew to not trust them at all. I said they had a track record of broken promises and that it would turn into a shiatshow.
 
2019-04-13 01:23:31 PM  

Gordon Bennett: You can tell which Foxconn buildings are still empty because they haven't had the suicide nets installed around them yet.

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Those nets aren't sturdy enough for the average american factory worker.  Also, bonus for posting the real money makers in those industrial areas:  go go boy prostitutes.
 
2019-04-13 01:41:25 PM  

Jaws_Victim: They let Foxconn have a building right in front of their capitol building


This is an odd sentence.

Who is they? What do you mean 'let'?
 
2019-04-13 03:40:44 PM  
They let Foxconn have a building right in front of their capitol building
 
2019-04-13 03:49:51 PM  

Deadguy2322: I await the day when Vox Media's buildings are all empty.


Or, The Verge.  Vox has a decent reputation, no?
 
2019-04-13 04:05:34 PM  

Nightjars: I mean, it's got 'con' right in the name...


And Fox.
 
2019-04-13 04:05:35 PM  
The pols who let these scams happen should be held accountable, and more than just voting the bastards out.
 
2019-04-13 04:06:47 PM  

Gordon Bennett: You can tell which Foxconn buildings are still empty because they haven't had the suicide nets installed around them yet.

[img.fark.net image 450x304]


Coming soon to an America near you !
 
2019-04-13 04:58:14 PM  
They bailed out Northwestern Mutual from keeping one of their buildings downtown they didn't need after the new monstrosity they built.  So thus far the state of WI gave NML about $15M for a meh building downtown
 
2019-04-13 05:13:57 PM  

Jedbone: Deadguy2322: I await the day when Vox Media's buildings are all empty.

Or, The Verge.  Vox has a decent reputation, no?


Exactly what did The Verge do here that you don't approve of. Because everything in that article reads like solid journalism.
 
2019-04-13 05:33:10 PM  

Catlenfell: Just by building anything on the site, Foxconn earns $3 billion. Employing any amount of people earns them more.
If they were to employ the promised 13,000, they'd earn another $1.5 billion. The last number that was kicked around was only 1,000 employees, at wages less than the promised $50,000 annually.
If Foxconn kept all their promises, the state would break even (taxwise) in 43 years. Right now we're looking at 60+, if ever.


I won't be alive in 60 years. My kids might not be alive. Their unborn kids will be paying for this, along with their unborn kids... and maybe their kids. Scott Walker could have taken 4.5 billion, put it in crappy CDs and gotten 112 million in interest each year, and used that to pay 2200 people to sit on their butts... and still had the principle amount left over to give back at the end, that's how stupid this is. Who knows what he could have done with higher returns. Scott Walker literally didn't know how to make a job so he bought them from scammers.
 
2019-04-13 07:30:52 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Catlenfell: Just by building anything on the site, Foxconn earns $3 billion. Employing any amount of people earns them more.
If they were to employ the promised 13,000, they'd earn another $1.5 billion. The last number that was kicked around was only 1,000 employees, at wages less than the promised $50,000 annually.
If Foxconn kept all their promises, the state would break even (taxwise) in 43 years. Right now we're looking at 60+, if ever.

I won't be alive in 60 years. My kids might not be alive. Their unborn kids will be paying for this, along with their unborn kids... and maybe their kids. Scott Walker could have taken 4.5 billion, put it in crappy CDs and gotten 112 million in interest each year, and used that to pay 2200 people to sit on their butts... and still had the principle amount left over to give back at the end, that's how stupid this is. Who knows what he could have done with higher returns. Scott Walker literally didn't know how to make a job so he bought them from scammers.


Oh. Yeah. I live in Hudson.  My taxes and revenue from my company have gone into this debacle.
When we moved from Minnesota, I wish we had gotten a similar deal.
 
2019-04-13 09:19:16 PM  

KarmicDisaster: pissnmoan: Anyone know how much money Foxconn paid the politicians of Wisconsin for this taxpayer arse raping session?

Guess what! Nothing! We pay them! For 100 years! That's the Scott Walker genius part of the plan.


What the taxpayers pay Foxconn is distinct from, but related to, what Foxconn paid the politicians.
 
2019-04-13 10:14:10 PM  

Catlenfell: KarmicDisaster: Catlenfell: Just by building anything on the site, Foxconn earns $3 billion. Employing any amount of people earns them more.
If they were to employ the promised 13,000, they'd earn another $1.5 billion. The last number that was kicked around was only 1,000 employees, at wages less than the promised $50,000 annually.
If Foxconn kept all their promises, the state would break even (taxwise) in 43 years. Right now we're looking at 60+, if ever.

I won't be alive in 60 years. My kids might not be alive. Their unborn kids will be paying for this, along with their unborn kids... and maybe their kids. Scott Walker could have taken 4.5 billion, put it in crappy CDs and gotten 112 million in interest each year, and used that to pay 2200 people to sit on their butts... and still had the principle amount left over to give back at the end, that's how stupid this is. Who knows what he could have done with higher returns. Scott Walker literally didn't know how to make a job so he bought them from scammers.

Oh. Yeah. I live in Hudson.  My taxes and revenue from my company have gone into this debacle.
When we moved from Minnesota, I wish we had gotten a similar deal.


I went from central WI into Minneapolis.  Yeah, my taxes went up some, but my health insurance cut in half and my income doubled.
 
2019-04-13 11:48:29 PM  

nacker: Catlenfell: KarmicDisaster: Catlenfell: Just by building anything on the site, Foxconn earns $3 billion. Employing any amount of people earns them more.
If they were to employ the promised 13,000, they'd earn another $1.5 billion. The last number that was kicked around was only 1,000 employees, at wages less than the promised $50,000 annually.
If Foxconn kept all their promises, the state would break even (taxwise) in 43 years. Right now we're looking at 60+, if ever.

I won't be alive in 60 years. My kids might not be alive. Their unborn kids will be paying for this, along with their unborn kids... and maybe their kids. Scott Walker could have taken 4.5 billion, put it in crappy CDs and gotten 112 million in interest each year, and used that to pay 2200 people to sit on their butts... and still had the principle amount left over to give back at the end, that's how stupid this is. Who knows what he could have done with higher returns. Scott Walker literally didn't know how to make a job so he bought them from scammers.

Oh. Yeah. I live in Hudson.  My taxes and revenue from my company have gone into this debacle.
When we moved from Minnesota, I wish we had gotten a similar deal.

I went from central WI into Minneapolis.  Yeah, my taxes went up some, but my health insurance cut in half and my income doubled.


Which is why I'm always baffled people move out of the state. Yea, taxes are relatively high compared to neighboring states, but the other benefits far outweigh them...
 
2019-04-14 09:52:22 AM  

Bugerz: nacker: Catlenfell: KarmicDisaster: Catlenfell: Just by building anything on the site, Foxconn earns $3 billion. Employing any amount of people earns them more.
If they were to employ the promised 13,000, they'd earn another $1.5 billion. The last number that was kicked around was only 1,000 employees, at wages less than the promised $50,000 annually.
If Foxconn kept all their promises, the state would break even (taxwise) in 43 years. Right now we're looking at 60+, if ever.

I won't be alive in 60 years. My kids might not be alive. Their unborn kids will be paying for this, along with their unborn kids... and maybe their kids. Scott Walker could have taken 4.5 billion, put it in crappy CDs and gotten 112 million in interest each year, and used that to pay 2200 people to sit on their butts... and still had the principle amount left over to give back at the end, that's how stupid this is. Who knows what he could have done with higher returns. Scott Walker literally didn't know how to make a job so he bought them from scammers.

Oh. Yeah. I live in Hudson.  My taxes and revenue from my company have gone into this debacle.
When we moved from Minnesota, I wish we had gotten a similar deal.

I went from central WI into Minneapolis.  Yeah, my taxes went up some, but my health insurance cut in half and my income doubled.

Which is why I'm always baffled people move out of the state. Yea, taxes are relatively high compared to neighboring states, but the other benefits far outweigh them...


Which state are you referring to?
 
2019-04-14 12:05:25 PM  

jayphat: Jedbone: Deadguy2322: I await the day when Vox Media's buildings are all empty.

Or, The Verge.  Vox has a decent reputation, no?

Exactly what did The Verge do here that you don't approve of. Because everything in that article reads like solid journalism.


Sorry, you're right. Short but well written and sourced. I guess I was looking for where that broken English blather came from.

Awful glad Scotty is out of work, and Evers has avoided any land mines thus far. We really need him to succeed, especially in education, his strong point.
 
2019-04-14 02:33:46 PM  
They really should be working in this White House.  It takes a special soul to be tough enough for conflicting statements back to back.
 
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