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2019-04-12 11:54:34 AM  
Being a land owner in a flight path, I would appreciate knowing when they start flights up again.  So I can schedule to be away from home when a 737 Max turns into a 737 Crash.
 
2019-04-12 12:02:51 PM  

OkieDookie: Being a land owner in a flight path, I would appreciate knowing when they start flights up again.  So I can schedule to be away from home when a 737 Max turns into a 737 Crash.


Virtually everyone lives in a flight path, FWIW.
 
2019-04-12 12:09:18 PM  
Ya know a simple stall warning alert would let a pilot know to push the nose down

If the attitude sensor is hit by a bird and gives wrong information about this the pilot could then fly the plane rather than a computer insisting that they auger in
 
2019-04-12 12:12:42 PM  
FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line
 
2019-04-12 12:16:23 PM  

emersonbiggins: OkieDookie: Being a land owner in a flight path, I would appreciate knowing when they start flights up again.  So I can schedule to be away from home when a 737 Max turns into a 737 Crash.

Virtually everyone lives in a flight path, FWIW.


Nothing gets by you. Your reflexes are just too quick.
 
2019-04-12 12:34:25 PM  

Schlubbe: FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line


Boeing should be picking up the costs of grounding their faulty product.  Though that cost still probably pales in comparison to getting sued by hundreds of families.
 
2019-04-12 12:36:09 PM  
As I've been saying since Day One, clearly this is the fault of everyone but Boeing.
 
2019-04-12 12:36:42 PM  

wooden_badger: Schlubbe: FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line

Boeing should be picking up the costs of grounding their faulty product.  Though that cost still probably pales in comparison to getting sued by hundreds of families.


Other countries are not as litigious as the US.
 
2019-04-12 12:43:27 PM  

wooden_badger: Schlubbe: FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line

Boeing should be picking up the costs of grounding their faulty product.  Though that cost still probably pales in comparison to getting sued by hundreds of families.


'Should' is such a quaint concept in modern, corporate America
 
2019-04-12 12:46:08 PM  

Schlubbe: wooden_badger: Schlubbe: FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line

Boeing should be picking up the costs of grounding their faulty product.  Though that cost still probably pales in comparison to getting sued by hundreds of families.

'Should' is such a quaint concept in modern, corporate America


Yup, of course Southwest could decide to start converting their fleet to Airbus if Boeing doesn't do the right thing.
 
2019-04-12 12:54:18 PM  

wooden_badger: Schlubbe: wooden_badger: Schlubbe: FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line

Boeing should be picking up the costs of grounding their faulty product.  Though that cost still probably pales in comparison to getting sued by hundreds of families.

'Should' is such a quaint concept in modern, corporate America

Yup, of course Southwest could decide to start converting their fleet to Airbus if Boeing doesn't do the right thing.


Southwest's whole business model relies on every pilot they have being rated to fly every aircraft they have (all 737 variants). Makes scheduling a no brainer. A major reason why the Max had to be an upgrade rather than an all new model.

No, swapping out their entire fleet for Airbus would be next to impossible.
 
2019-04-12 01:05:00 PM  

Schlubbe: wooden_badger: Schlubbe: wooden_badger: Schlubbe: FTA;   Southwest currently operates 34 of the jets.

I think you mean Southwest currently has 34 of the jets hanging around their necks like $120m dead albatrosses.

They're paying for financing them, having to pay for a spot to park each one, and will get to pay to put them back into service if there's an eventual fix. That cannot be good for LUV's bottom line

Boeing should be picking up the costs of grounding their faulty product.  Though that cost still probably pales in comparison to getting sued by hundreds of families.

'Should' is such a quaint concept in modern, corporate America

Yup, of course Southwest could decide to start converting their fleet to Airbus if Boeing doesn't do the right thing.

Southwest's whole business model relies on every pilot they have being rated to fly every aircraft they have (all 737 variants). Makes scheduling a no brainer. A major reason why the Max had to be an upgrade rather than an all new model.

No, swapping out their entire fleet for Airbus would be next to impossible.


Yet Boeing represented the MAX series as being the same as prior 737's, apart from some secret software. A non-corrupt FAA should require pilot recertification going forward.

I don't see how Southwest is not going to put Boeing on the hook for the costs of loss of use of these aircraft.  Their stockholders would demand it.  Why would you want to continue flying Boeing aircraft if the company won't stand behind their product? State that all future replacement aircraft will be Airbus.
 
2019-04-12 01:06:22 PM  
The "No Crash" feature will cost you extra, though.
 
2019-04-12 01:08:17 PM  
Is anyone going to bother mentioning that Southwest didn't actually ground their 737 max 8 planes? I flew on one March 28 and was very surprised that it wasn't grounded. If you search about it you'll find other confirmations.
 
2019-04-12 01:21:09 PM  

OptimisticCynicism: Is anyone going to bother mentioning that Southwest didn't actually ground their 737 max 8 planes? I flew on one March 28 and was very surprised that it wasn't grounded. If you search about it you'll find other confirmations.


No, you didn't. You were on a 737 800 that uses the same safety cards as a MAX 8.
 
2019-04-12 01:29:26 PM  

davidphogan: OptimisticCynicism: Is anyone going to bother mentioning that Southwest didn't actually ground their 737 max 8 planes? I flew on one March 28 and was very surprised that it wasn't grounded. If you search about it you'll find other confirmations.

No, you didn't. You were on a 737 800 that uses the same safety cards as a MAX 8.


That would explain it. Thank you for the correction.
 
2019-04-12 03:01:08 PM  

davidphogan: OptimisticCynicism: Is anyone going to bother mentioning that Southwest didn't actually ground their 737 max 8 planes? I flew on one March 28 and was very surprised that it wasn't grounded. If you search about it you'll find other confirmations.

No, you didn't. You were on a 737 800 that uses the same safety cards as a MAX 8.


A friend of mine had that happen just last week.
 
2019-04-12 04:00:44 PM  

davidphogan: OptimisticCynicism: Is anyone going to bother mentioning that Southwest didn't actually ground their 737 max 8 planes? I flew on one March 28 and was very surprised that it wasn't grounded. If you search about it you'll find other confirmations.

No, you didn't. You were on a 737 800 that uses the same safety cards as a MAX 8.


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2019-04-12 04:52:07 PM  
I thought the crashes were caused by not having the software fix because it cost an extra $500?
 
2019-04-12 05:14:57 PM  

OkieDookie: Being a land owner in a flight path, I would appreciate knowing when they start flights up again.  So I can schedule to be away from home when a 737 Max turns into a 737 Crash.


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2019-04-12 06:30:39 PM  

wildcardjack: I thought the crashes were caused by not having the software fix because it cost an extra $500?


It's like "undercoating." It's how they get ya.
 
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