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2019-04-12 08:15:39 AM  
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2019-04-12 08:17:08 AM  
morning all.

turns out you can't refer to Julian as "stinky Ass" in headlines anymore. *sigh*
 
2019-04-12 08:19:15 AM  
I'm going with Stephen Miller with the candlestick in the parlor.

/ Clued in.
 
2019-04-12 08:25:48 AM  
So he's saying Hannity is the brains of the bunch?

These guys are apparently even dumber than I thought.
 
2019-04-12 08:29:11 AM  

CrazyCurt: I'm going with Stephen Miller with the candlestick in the parlor.

/ Clued in.


How did Stephen Miller spend last evening?
 
2019-04-12 08:35:02 AM  
If subby wrote this headline with the show 'Soap' in mind... BRAVO!
 
2019-04-12 08:35:50 AM  
I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.
 
2019-04-12 08:45:13 AM  
Hi, Kids! <3 Things are looking up, no?
 
2019-04-12 09:04:33 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.


Prepare to be disappointed on that point.  One: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.  Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections unless it could be proven he and his associates committed the original crime.

The trial however, will be politically devastating to the Trump Reich.
 
2019-04-12 09:07:07 AM  
I hope to hear from the IRS today - and not about my return, either.
 
2019-04-12 09:32:33 AM  

AntiM: Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections


He's Australian / ex-Ecuadoran, right? How does the 1st Amendment come into play here?

(honest question)
 
2019-04-12 09:38:08 AM  

parasol: I hope to hear from the IRS today - and not about my return, either.


I'm hoping Mnuchin has a really bad Friday.
 
2019-04-12 09:49:16 AM  
AntiM: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

Prepare to be disappointed on that point.  One: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.  Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections unless it could be proven he and his associates committed the original crime.

That would be a very logical and correct argument in a country that believed in the rule of law.
 
2019-04-12 09:50:53 AM  
Jebus, weren't we promised something regarding the Mueller report? By 5 pm Eastern at least
 
2019-04-12 09:51:08 AM  

AntiM: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

Prepare to be disappointed on that point.  One: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.  Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections unless it could be proven he and his associates committed the original crime.

The trial however, will be politically devastating to the Trump Reich.


We know there are more charges coming for Assange. True, we don't know what they are but given that the UK is going through a raft of shiat also because of Assange and his friends I'm guessing that there was a wink-nod-say-no-more agreement that the US would charge him with hacking for now as a means to extradite him and after that the UK doesn't give a shiat what they do with him.

I'm not sure how anyone can get out of espionage charges - and make no mistake, Assange was conspiring to spy on the US for his Russian friends - using the first amendment. The espionage isn't him publishing what he stole from the US, it's the act of stealing the information. Assange and Manning are both staring down the barrel of espionage and I'm guessing they won't be alone.
 
2019-04-12 09:51:19 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: parasol: I hope to hear from the IRS today - and not about my return, either.

I'm hoping Mnuchin has a really bad Friday.


You and me both.
 
2019-04-12 09:51:30 AM  

AntiM: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

Prepare to be disappointed on that point.  One: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.  Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections unless it could be proven he and his associates committed the original crime.

The trial however, will be politically devastating to the Trump Reich.


No 1st Amendment protections for him.
If he is considered a journalist, which I don't think he is, a journalist is not allowed to break the law to get information for a story.
 
2019-04-12 09:53:30 AM  

AntiM: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.


So he does 5 years, gets put on a plane downunder with someone with an extradition order and they ask for him back for the rest of his life. That assumes he would last 5 years in a US federal prison which I expect he won't. Prison takes two years off life expectancy for every year in jail and 5 plus the 7 embassy years takes 24 off his life expectancy which puts it very close to the endgame for someone born in 1970s.
 
2019-04-12 10:08:34 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.


don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!
 
2019-04-12 10:12:09 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.


Give me Betsy DeVos
 
2019-04-12 10:12:54 AM  

somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!


Current pool:
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2019-04-12 10:16:48 AM  
Wish I had the day off...

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2019-04-12 10:23:40 AM  

AntiM: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

Prepare to be disappointed on that point.  One: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.  Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections unless it could be proven he and his associates committed the original crime.

The trial however, will be politically devastating to the Trump Reich.


if anything, a lot of stuff will come out when they make the case to the judge to grant extradition. He may not be charged with espionage, but that doesn't mean they won't bring it up to justify sending him back here
 
2019-04-12 10:25:52 AM  

schnee: AntiM: Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections

He's Australian / ex-Ecuadoran, right? How does the 1st Amendment come into play here?

(honest question)


charging him with espionage for publishing the hacked material may fall under the first amendment and that's why they steered clear of that in their indictment. However, espionage is totally different and wouldn't be protected under the first amendment if he knowingly hacked into the pentagon to get data which he then shared with the GRU
 
2019-04-12 10:32:20 AM  
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2019-04-12 10:38:00 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: AntiM: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

Prepare to be disappointed on that point.  One: Assange can't be charged with crimes not dealing with the "conspiring to hack computers" charge in the original extradition unless Great Britain waives its extradition agreement with the U.S. that prevents him being charged with additional crimes not related to the original.  Two: Charging him with "espionage" would run smack into 1st Amendment protections unless it could be proven he and his associates committed the original crime.

The trial however, will be politically devastating to the Trump Reich.

We know there are more charges coming for Assange. True, we don't know what they are but given that the UK is going through a raft of shiat also because of Assange and his friends I'm guessing that there was a wink-nod-say-no-more agreement that the US would charge him with hacking for now as a means to extradite him and after that the UK doesn't give a shiat what they do with him.

I'm not sure how anyone can get out of espionage charges - and make no mistake, Assange was conspiring to spy on the US for his Russian friends - using the first amendment. The espionage isn't him publishing what he stole from the US, it's the act of stealing the information. Assange and Manning are both staring down the barrel of espionage and I'm guessing they won't be alone.


We hope.

This country has become a boil on the face of the planet.
 
2019-04-12 10:44:59 AM  
So for Total Fark day, why are there even green lights today?
 
2019-04-12 10:50:08 AM  

Jelly Bean Raider: If subby wrote this headline with the show 'Soap' in mind... BRAVO!


huh

Theme From Soap (Fingerstyle Guitar)
Youtube Rhas-GCQj5g
 
2019-04-12 10:55:44 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
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It's not right that Erik Prince is up there but not Betsy.  So put me down for Mrs. Devos.
 
2019-04-12 11:01:45 AM  

BizarreMan: AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
[img.fark.net image 307x435]

It's not right that Erik Prince is up there but not Betsy.  So put me down for Mrs. Devos.


trvth just took Betsy as I was posting that.
 
2019-04-12 11:15:54 AM  

CrazyCurt: I'm going with Stephen Miller with the candlestick in the parlor.

/ Clued in.


So long as it isn't "outside the gas chamber, with the gas chamber switch."
and

AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
[img.fark.net image 307x435]


Oh, hells.  Tudorgirl stole Ivanka from me?!  Put me down for Allen Weisselberg
 
2019-04-12 11:22:14 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
[img.fark.net image 307x435]


Ehhh for shiats and giggles put me down for the Huckabeast
 
2019-04-12 11:22:49 AM  
JUST IN: Political consultant Sam Patten sentenced to 3 years probation, per @kpolantz in the courtroom. Patten avoids prison because he helped Mueller and other federal investigators, who vouched for him before sentencing. Background on the case here: https://t.co/VVQIZtztHH
- Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) April 12, 2019
 
2019-04-12 11:28:51 AM  

somedude210: JUST IN: Political consultant Sam Patten sentenced to 3 years probation, per @kpolantz in the courtroom. Patten avoids prison because he helped Mueller and other federal investigators, who vouched for him before sentencing. Background on the case here: https://t.co/VVQIZtztHH
- Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) April 12, 2019


So, do we have the money trail to prove the Inaugural Fund was a slushpool for money laundering now?
 
2019-04-12 11:29:15 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: BizarreMan: AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
[img.fark.net image 307x435]

It's not right that Erik Prince is up there but not Betsy.  So put me down for Mrs. Devos.

trvth just took Betsy as I was posting that.


Damn it. Okay

Dana Loesch
Rudy Guiliani
Lindsey Graham
 
2019-04-12 12:55:05 PM  
If only. Force this darkness from our country.
 
2019-04-12 01:21:39 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: We know there are more charges coming for Assange. True, we don't know what they are but given that the UK is going through a raft of shiat also because of Assange and his friends I'm guessing that there was a wink-nod-say-no-more agreement that the US would charge him with hacking for now as a means to extradite him and after that the UK doesn't give a shiat what they do with him.

I'm not sure how anyone can get out of espionage charges - and make no mistake, Assange was conspiring to spy on the US for his Russian friends - using the first amendment. The espionage isn't himI  publishing what he stole from the US, it's the act of stealing the information. Assange and Manning are both staring down the barrel of espionage and I'm guessing they won't be alone.


I hope you're right about the UK because the current charge is not a slam dunk.  they have to prove criminal conspiracy and Manning is unlikely to cooperate.  I'm also not sure any espionage charges against Manning will clear the double jeopardy hurdle as she has already been tried and convicted under the Espionage Act.

There is also the very real chance Assange will agree to cooperate with the DOJ and burn as many people as possible in the process to reduce his sentence.  The man is pathologically anarchistic.
 
2019-04-12 01:22:26 PM  

whidbey: If only. Force this darkness from our country.


See the other thread.  Star Wars IX promo dropped.
 
2019-04-12 01:31:17 PM  
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2019-04-12 02:47:35 PM  
Damn it, I'm really needing something to drop today.
It's Friday, a nice spring day, and my motivation was murdered around 9am.

Need a distraction.
 
2019-04-12 03:04:53 PM  

spaztic lv6 cleric: Damn it, I'm really needing something to drop today.
It's Friday, a nice spring day, and my motivation was murdered around 9am.

Need a distraction.


I just got a "WTF do you think you're doing, you can't do what you're trying to do until you fill out multiple forms and get approvals!" email from the regulatory department. At 3 pm on a Friday.

I think it's time to go home and try again next week.
 
2019-04-12 03:17:49 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
[img.fark.net image 307x435]


Stephen Miller, please :)
 
2019-04-12 03:42:17 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!


How about a new unindicted co-conspirator?
 
2019-04-12 04:02:21 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: somedude210: AdmirableSnackbar: I can't wait until Assange gets extradicted and the espionage charges drop.

don't forget your pool picks, folks!!!

Current pool:
[img.fark.net image 307x435]


Larf.

Null's pick is highlighted yellow as requested.
 
2019-04-12 04:11:37 PM  
Rod Rosenstein at private lunch today at Metropolitan Club said don't forget what Mueller probe was about: cyber crimes. When it comes out, lot of what we see will deal with *that*; it'll clear up questions about Russian election interference, he said, people in room told me. pic.twitter.com/OH3Bs4swp4
- Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) April 12, 2019
 
2019-04-12 04:22:15 PM  

schnee: He's Australian / ex-Ecuadoran, right? How does the 1st Amendment come into play here?

(honest question)


The First Amendment (and basically everything in the Bill of Rights) applies to all people.  Citizenship is irrelevant.
 
2019-04-12 04:33:18 PM  

BMFPitt: schnee: He's Australian / ex-Ecuadoran, right? How does the 1st Amendment come into play here?

(honest question)

The First Amendment (and basically everything in the Bill of Rights) applies to all people.  Citizenship is irrelevant.


It means he can publish information, yes. It doesn't mean he can break the law to acquire that information.
 
2019-04-12 04:38:08 PM  
Like it matters.
No matter what the report says, the Democrats are going to think he's a Russian asset no matter what. NO MATTER WHAT. Since you can't prove a negative, and therefore can't prove he isn't. They are just gonna ride that train for the next 6 years.
 
2019-04-12 04:53:04 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: It means he can publish information, yes. It doesn't mean he can break the law to acquire that information.


That was already covered upthread, but my answer seemed more relevant to the actual question, given the fact that nationality was brought up.
 
2019-04-12 04:53:41 PM  

BMFPitt: schnee: He's Australian / ex-Ecuadoran, right? How does the 1st Amendment come into play here?

(honest question)

The First Amendment (and basically everything in the Bill of Rights) applies to all people.  Citizenship is irrelevant.


Are we still pretending that Assange is a "journalist" and as such he is immune from prosecution for any actual crimes he commits?
 
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