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2019-04-12 05:46:35 AM  
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/decisions, decisions
 
2019-04-12 06:29:14 AM  
That's one way to take the piss.
 
2019-04-12 06:37:20 AM  
This is patently absurd.

Real urine has a better flavor than synthetic urine. You could hire a few people from por....documentary websites to taste the rainflow.

On the other hand piss-testing is an invasion of privacy which reveals little or nothing about the pisstee but reveals much about the insecurities of the pisster. Why do you desire my pee so much? Most people who do harm have passed piss-tests with flawless color-tastes. The people you exclude are people who not only want to work for you but want to do well by you.

It is a pisstery.
 
2019-04-12 08:30:30 AM  
So what if your employer decides to use a drug testing method that actually works? Washing your hair with fake piss and swishing it around in your mouth will disgust the tester, sure, but that's only a temporary solution.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. Outlawing fake piss just means these companies will sell you the tools to work with someone else's urine instead. Nothing gets changed. And who is it harming anyway? A company that is serious about workplace safety shouldn't pick urinalysis in the first place.
 
2019-04-12 09:28:35 AM  
Had a friend who worked construction and had to take a drug test after an on-the-job mishap. He was trying to beg clean samples from a few of us. Didn't want to tell him I morally objected to this, so I said my sample might be clear of marijuana, but not other substances.
 
2019-04-12 09:43:37 AM  
it's sad companies even do that. Like, what do you care what people do on their own time. slaves
 
2019-04-12 09:56:58 AM  
$20 a pop here. I have at least 1 person a week asking me for piss. I haven't smoked weed in 20 years and never touched any drugs. They know that I only drink.
 
2019-04-12 10:46:55 AM  
I believe most companies use batch testing. Multiple samples are combined, and if the collective sample shows too high levels of a substance they are looking for, then they test the individual samples. It is the cheapest available process and still provides discounts for liability and health insurance purposes. If you don't smoke much or dilute (vitamin B supplements can add color back to your urine) and your sample group doesn't smoke at all, you can pee dirty and get away with it. It is security theater to a large extent.

I used a simulated urine product years ago. I kept it in my car in an insulated container. When they popped a surprise onsite test, I had to sneak down the back stairs to my car, grab the bag that came with a belt and hose, and sneak into a restroom on another floor to put it on. I realized the kit came with a hose that was about 6 feet long for some reason, I wanted a manageable length so I wouldn't be reaching down to my ankle to access it, so I sneaked up the back stairs to my desk, grabbed scissors, and went to the other floor's bathroom to make the appropriate adjustment, then sneaked back to my desk to return the scissors. I then stayed out of sight until I was confident the stuff was up to temp. I walked to the common area and asked when I should share my sample. The person overseeing the process stood directly behind me, and since he was a foot taller, could watch over my shoulder. I extracted the hose, opened both tube clamps  and gave a sample while trying to keep the hose hidden under my flaccid peener. I then clicked a tube clamp shut and went to wash my hands. I turned to the mirror as the guy monitoring everything took the sample to his desk, and realized why there were two tube clamps. The fake urine had leaked down my pants legs. THANKFULLY I had a spare pair of jeans in my car, so I had to sneak out side again, avoiding the monitor who wanted me to sign a chain of custody acknowledgement, go to my car, get the jeans, sneak back in to the other floor's bathroom to change my pants, then back to my car to stow the wet jeans, and then sneak back inside and up the stairs so I could 'randomly' run into the monitor without looking like I had been outside or up to anything sneaky.

I realized it might have been easier to quit smoking pot, but after all that, I really wanted to get high and destress.
 
2019-04-12 11:20:34 AM  

some_beer_drinker: it's sad companies even do that. Like, what do you care what people do on their own time. slaves


Really? Do you want the pilot of your aircraft to be a junkie? Do you want that truck driver high on meth?
For a lot of jobs, yeah, it doesn't make a spit of difference, but there are jobs out there that I would like some assurance the person isn't a drug addict.
 
2019-04-12 11:56:39 AM  

mrsleep: some_beer_drinker: it's sad companies even do that. Like, what do you care what people do on their own time. slaves

Really? Do you want the pilot of your aircraft to be a junkie? Do you want that truck driver high on meth?
For a lot of jobs, yeah, it doesn't make a spit of difference, but there are jobs out there that I would like some assurance the person isn't a drug addict.


You do know that it is far more likely that people are far more likely to have debilitating addictions to legal substances, such as booze or prescription meds that cause far more harm to those in the sphere of travel than pot does?

pot needs a stronger lobbying arm. a few friends in the legalization movement here hate that I have that notion, but its the truth. Yall may want an organic, unsullied by corp influence type of movement, but that doesn't get the fat cats moving. Spend the money, quit the shiat already.

Its coming around, I hope I see it in my lifetime, im tired of buying piss that I make on my own for much less $, just because I choose the substance that posses the least amount of danger to myself and to others.
 
2019-04-12 12:07:53 PM  
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2019-04-12 03:36:14 PM  
The problem with piss tests is that they don't indicate intoxication. At all. They can just indicate if a person has had some fun sometime in the last few weeks.

I can understand an employer who have workers doing potentially dangerous things like flying an aircraft wanting them to be sober on the job, but there's got to be a better way. Maybe a blood test? Maybe some gadget that evaluates how your eyes respond to light patterns?
 
2019-04-12 04:45:30 PM  

mrsleep: some_beer_drinker: it's sad companies even do that. Like, what do you care what people do on their own time. slaves

Really? Do you want the pilot of your aircraft to be a junkie? Do you want that truck driver high on meth?
For a lot of jobs, yeah, it doesn't make a spit of difference, but there are jobs out there that I would like some assurance the person isn't a drug addict.


well, thank goodness they can get fake pee and not have their personal lives destroyed
 
2019-04-12 06:53:49 PM  
Not knowing anybody that could provide "clean" urine kind of forced my hand to combat the ridiculous invasion of privacy that is a pre-employment drug screen.
 
2019-04-12 08:08:17 PM  

Riche: The problem with piss tests is that they don't indicate intoxication. At all. They can just indicate if a person has had some fun sometime in the last few weeks.

I can understand an employer who have workers doing potentially dangerous things like flying an aircraft wanting them to be sober on the job, but there's got to be a better way. Maybe a blood test? Maybe some gadget that evaluates how your eyes respond to light patterns?


I don't know the full details because I heard about it third? hand from someone I worked with.

There used to be a blue-collar workplace in one of the most well-off Indianapolis suburburbs. The people who worked there were constantly being harrassed by the neighbourhood cops while driving to and/or from work. A lot of them had criminal records and the vechicles they used didn't fit the neighbourhood.

From what I understand that harassment stopped when the owner of the machine shop started complaining about how the police messing with his employees made everything more expensive and take longer.
 
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