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(New Musical Express)   The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame will not remove Michael Jackson, though they might not let anyone under the age of 18 into his exhibit   (nme.com) divider line
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2019-03-26 07:54:24 AM  
Maybe they should do what the Cavern Club in Liverpool did with Gary Glitter's brick -- remove it and put up a sign saying why they removed it. That would work, I'll bet.

/ambivalent about this whole "shunning" approach to artists who do bad sh*t
//as in "don't really care either way"
///I still listen to "Rock and Roll (Part 2)" now and then.
 
2019-03-26 08:28:11 AM  
I was going to ask if anyone under 50 goes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Then I thought does anyone go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Why?
 
2019-03-26 08:37:40 AM  

spongeboob: I was going to ask if anyone under 50 goes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Then I thought does anyone go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Why?


Been there a couple of times. It's kinda cool. Plus, it's within walking distance of the three-block area of downtown Cleveland that doesn't suck.
 
2019-03-26 08:56:41 AM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Maybe they should do what the Cavern Club in Liverpool did with Gary Glitter's brick -- remove it and put up a sign saying why they removed it. That would work, I'll bet.

/ambivalent about this whole "shunning" approach to artists who do bad sh*t
//as in "don't really care either way"
///I still listen to "Rock and Roll (Part 2)" now and then.


Difference being Glitter was tried and convicted; Jackson never was.
 
2019-03-26 09:14:11 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: Pazuzu Smith-Jones: Maybe they should do what the Cavern Club in Liverpool did with Gary Glitter's brick -- remove it and put up a sign saying why they removed it. That would work, I'll bet.

/ambivalent about this whole "shunning" approach to artists who do bad sh*t
//as in "don't really care either way"
///I still listen to "Rock and Roll (Part 2)" now and then.

Difference being Glitter was tried and convicted; Jackson never was.


Jackson had far more money and lawyers to pay off and silence his victims.
 
2019-03-26 09:17:00 AM  
People under 18: 'Michael who?'
 
2019-03-26 09:23:45 AM  
If you removed every artist from the RRHOF who had sex with someone underage, I'm pretty sure you'd be left with a mostly empty building.
 
2019-03-26 09:24:18 AM  

Courtney Cox-Zucker: If you removed every artist from the RRHOF who had sex with someone underage, I'm pretty sure you'd be left with a mostly empty building.


So what you're saying is we should burn it down?
 
2019-03-26 09:25:04 AM  
Can you have be a Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame and still try to ban people who defied social standards?

That's like banning people with felonies from the Jazz and Blues halls of fame. The style is built on defying the law!
 
2019-03-26 09:25:27 AM  

Nurglitch: Courtney Cox-Zucker: If you removed every artist from the RRHOF who had sex with someone underage, I'm pretty sure you'd be left with a mostly empty building.

So what you're saying is we should burn it down?


Only the roof.
 
2019-03-26 09:26:09 AM  
If they set a precedent by removing the pero muscicians, they'd have to take out the ones who statutory raped groupies. Then you get rid of the wife beaters and next thing you know, the hall of fame is empty.
 
2019-03-26 09:26:11 AM  
They put him there for his music, not his accomplishments in child molestation.
 
2019-03-26 09:26:18 AM  

spongeboob: I was going to ask if anyone under 50 goes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Then I thought does anyone go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Why?


It's a great place to play Pokemon in Cleveland. 

Laps around the factory of sadness and then Hall of Fame and Voinovitch park are standards when there is an event.
 
2019-03-26 09:34:00 AM  

Alphax: People under 18: 'Michael who?'


To their peril.
 
2019-03-26 09:37:01 AM  
Surely problem was the focus of the exhibit getting into kids under 18, not the other way around.
 
2019-03-26 09:38:21 AM  
Your favorite band sucks was pedos.
 
2019-03-26 09:39:32 AM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: spongeboob: I was going to ask if anyone under 50 goes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Then I thought does anyone go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Why?

Been there a couple of times. It's kinda cool. Plus, it's within walking distance of the three-block area of downtown Cleveland that doesn't suck.


CSB time
I interviewed at a professional school in Cleveland back in 1997, they spent more time talking about the nightlife and 'the flats' then talking about the educational opportunities at the school.
Also took us to lunch and made sure to drive us through the good neighborhood on one side of the school, when I left ended up driving through the ghetto immediately adjacent
 
2019-03-26 09:40:13 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: They put him there for his music, not his accomplishments in child molestation.


So you're saying he could also get into the NAMBLA hall of fame?
 
2019-03-26 09:42:56 AM  

Courtney Cox-Zucker: If you removed every artist from the RRHOF who had sex with someone underage, I'm pretty sure you'd be left with a mostly empty building.


17 /= 10

There are degrees of wrongness with sexual misconduct.
 
2019-03-26 09:47:36 AM  
They're drawing themselves too far into the matter.  No matter what the music stands on it's own. People don't get inducted for their character virtue.
 
2019-03-26 09:48:09 AM  

Mr_Vimes: HotWingConspiracy: They put him there for his music, not his accomplishments in child molestation.

So you're saying he could also get into the NAMBLA hall of fame?


He looked nothing like Marlon Brando...
 
2019-03-26 09:50:53 AM  
 
2019-03-26 10:06:18 AM  
Anyone with a wit of sense figured Jackson for what he was by 1994. That it's taken this long to collectively admit it is sad.
 
2019-03-26 10:18:52 AM  

This text is now purple: Can you have be a Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame and still try to ban people who defied social standards?

That's like banning people with felonies from the Jazz and Blues halls of fame. The style is built on defying the law!


Defied social standards?
 
2019-03-26 10:25:12 AM  
That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.
 
2019-03-26 10:42:47 AM  
He is more than famous, he is INFAMOUS
 
2019-03-26 11:04:36 AM  

Magnus: This text is now purple: Can you have be a Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame and still try to ban people who defied social standards?

That's like banning people with felonies from the Jazz and Blues halls of fame. The style is built on defying the law!

Defied social standards?


Consider Lead Belly.

He was convicted of murder for fatally stabbing a man in a fight over a woman. He served one term on a chaingang and was a fleeing felony for years. He served another term for assault in 1930 after trying to fatally stab a man over another woman, and then did it again in 1939. So he killed one man, tried to kill two more, and escaped from a chain gang after being convicted on a gun charge.

He's in the rock and roll hall of fame. He was one of the most influential jazz and blues artists there was. But he was not a good guy.
 
2019-03-26 11:15:23 AM  

This text is now purple: Magnus: This text is now purple: Can you have be a Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame and still try to ban people who defied social standards?

That's like banning people with felonies from the Jazz and Blues halls of fame. The style is built on defying the law!

Defied social standards?

Consider Lead Belly.

He was convicted of murder for fatally stabbing a man in a fight over a woman. He served one term on a chaingang and was a fleeing felony for years. He served another term for assault in 1930 after trying to fatally stab a man over another woman, and then did it again in 1939. So he killed one man, tried to kill two more, and escaped from a chain gang after being convicted on a gun charge.

He's in the rock and roll hall of fame. He was one of the most influential jazz and blues artists there was. But he was not a good guy.


Yeah, but he just murdered people. He didn't sexually assault kids and then paid off the parents.

/Pete Townshend is still in the Hall, right?
 
2019-03-26 11:25:31 AM  
First, the HOF is a joke. It is called the Rock and Roll HOF, but there are lots of artists in there that are clearly not R&R, eg MJ.

Second, MJ was a child abuser. Fark that guy, and fark his tainted music too.
 
2019-03-26 11:28:47 AM  

JAGChem82: That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.


And fark you for good measure.
 
2019-03-26 11:31:19 AM  

Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.

And fark you for good measure.


Piss off, you howling asshole. Nobody provoked you on here.
 
2019-03-26 11:57:55 AM  

JAGChem82: Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.

And fark you for good measure.

Piss off, you howling asshole. Nobody provoked you on here.


As a man who was abused as a child by an older man, I feel quite justified in my opinion.

But please don't let that stop you from supporting a rapist. You are totally allowed to do that, just as I am allowed to think you are a terrible person.
 
2019-03-26 12:01:02 PM  

Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.

And fark you for good measure.

Piss off, you howling asshole. Nobody provoked you on here.

As a man who was abused as a child by an older man, I feel quite justified in my opinion.

But please don't let that stop you from supporting a rapist. You are totally allowed to do that, just as I am allowed to think you are a terrible person.


Who said I supported a rapist?

Don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say - and I noticed that I'm the only one that you got the "courage" to talk shiat to on this thread.
 
2019-03-26 01:24:36 PM  

Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.

And fark you for good measure.

Piss off, you howling asshole. Nobody provoked you on here.

As a man who was abused as a child by an older man, I feel quite justified in my opinion.

But please don't let that stop you from supporting a rapist. You are totally allowed to do that, just as I am allowed to think you are a terrible person.


Was he a good musician?
 
2019-03-26 01:47:36 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: Zero Exponent: JAGChem82: That's the right call by the RRHOF. MJ's accomplishments as a musician are unparalleled, regardless of what MJ the person was like in real life.

I'll admit that I thought that he was a creep through and through, I never thought that he'd go so far as to actually be a pedo, but I guess he was real slick at playing innocent with the media, the authorities, and the public at large. At either rate, he's damn lucky that his career peaked in the 80s-90s and that he died when he did in 2009.

And fark you for good measure.

Piss off, you howling asshole. Nobody provoked you on here.

As a man who was abused as a child by an older man, I feel quite justified in my opinion.

But please don't let that stop you from supporting a rapist. You are totally allowed to do that, just as I am allowed to think you are a terrible person.

Was he a good musician?


He played the bagpipes, so I feel confident the answer to that is no.
 
2019-03-26 02:54:07 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Consider Lead Belly.

He was convicted of murder for fatally stabbing a man in a fight over a woman. He served one term on a chaingang and was a fleeing felony for years. He served another term for assault in 1930 after trying to fatally stab a man over another woman, and then did it again in 1939. So he killed one man, tried to kill two more, and escaped from a chain gang after being convicted on a gun charge.

He's in the rock and roll hall of fame. He was one of the most influential jazz and blues artists there was. But he was not a good guy.

Yeah, but he just murdered people. He didn't sexually assault kids and then paid off the parents.


That we know of.
 
2019-03-26 08:44:55 PM  

Pazuzu Smith-Jones: spongeboob: I was going to ask if anyone under 50 goes to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
Then I thought does anyone go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Why?

Been there a couple of times. It's kinda cool. Plus, it's within walking distance of the three-block area of downtown Cleveland that doesn't suck.


The immediate area around the Great Lakes Brewing Co. brewpub is pretty nice too.
 
2019-03-26 10:17:15 PM  

Zero Exponent: It is called the Rock and Roll HOF, but there are lots of artists in there that are clearly not R&R, eg MJ.


Yawn.
 
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