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(UPI)   Early trials of a male contraceptive pill are promising, according to lead scientist, Dr. Wang. No really   (upi.com) divider line
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2019-03-26 08:28:18 AM  
Yeah.  I have a feeling this may lead to the accidental sterilization of the entire human race.

/hopefully
 
2019-03-26 09:06:45 AM  
*juvenile giggling*
 
2019-03-26 09:09:06 AM  
Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?
 
2019-03-26 09:10:23 AM  
Estrogen works too, you know.
 
2019-03-26 09:11:28 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?


Previous avenues had a small problem of feminizing the user by altering fat distribution and emotional behavior.

So, while I absolutely adore femboys, most men are gonna have a big problem with that.
 
2019-03-26 09:14:34 AM  
Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.
 
2019-03-26 09:14:53 AM  
Nurgle Defectum Vult.
 
2019-03-26 09:16:37 AM  
Hey if you can't handle the consequences, keep it in your pants big boy
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2019-03-26 09:23:47 AM  
So to elaborate on why this is a big issue, this pill both mimics the natural form of Testosterone while selectively suppressing only testosterone receptors which are required for the maturation of sperm. This results in selective effects while not blocking or feminizing the user.

Previous clinical trials did not selectively target these receptors, which produced an effect similar to hormone replacement therapy in transgender women.

Most cis men are not going to want inconsistant/blocked orgasm, impotence, and feminization as side effects of a male birth control pill.
 
2019-03-26 09:24:00 AM  
"Studies are coming along swimmingly.... err, or not"

I don't see what the big deal is, the military has already developed an effective birth control device for men

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2019-03-26 09:24:16 AM  
Is it the one you put in your shoe and it makes you limp?
 
2019-03-26 09:24:59 AM  

grouser: Is it the one you put in your shoe and it makes you limp?


No, that's a foot fetish.
 
2019-03-26 09:25:36 AM  
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Wang's been moving up in the world.
 
2019-03-26 09:28:41 AM  

hardinparamedic: So to elaborate on why this is a big issue, this pill both mimics the natural form of Testosterone while selectively suppressing only testosterone receptors which are required for the maturation of sperm. This results in selective effects while not blocking or feminizing the user.

Previous clinical trials did not selectively target these receptors, which produced an effect similar to hormone replacement therapy in transgender women.

Most cis men are not going to want inconsistant/blocked orgasm, impotence, and feminization as side effects of a male birth control pill.


A vasectomy is still the most fool-proof, side-effect-free form of male birth control, but some people want to reproduce for reasons quite alien to me.

This seems like a huge step forward for men who wish to keep their options open, especially if your assessment of the rather significant side effects associated with the previous attempt at a male pill is accurate. Seems like an excellent thing to me.
 
2019-03-26 09:29:18 AM  

Sniffers Row: "Studies are coming along swimmingly.... err, or not"

I don't see what the big deal is, the military has already developed an effective birth control device for men

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Isn't growing a neckbeard completely free?
 
2019-03-26 09:32:16 AM  
Acne?
Great.
"Hey babe, nevermind the festering penis pustules, wanna fark?"
 
2019-03-26 09:33:14 AM  
Dr. CHRISTINA Wang.    Sounds like some gender dysphoria going on.
 
2019-03-26 09:37:14 AM  

rnatalie: Dr. CHRISTINA Wang.    Sounds like some gender dysphoria going on.


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2019-03-26 09:42:18 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?


I know I read years ago about trials of a male contraceptive that, while successfully suppressing sperm production, was causing impotence. While that would block unwanted pregnancies, it does rather defeat the purpose.
 
2019-03-26 09:44:14 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?


Someone committed suicide while on the trial drug, so trials were immediately stopped.
 
2019-03-26 09:45:07 AM  

j.lunatic: Herr Morgenstern: Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?

I know I read years ago about trials of a male contraceptive that, while successfully suppressing sperm production, was causing impotence. While that would block unwanted pregnancies, it does rather defeat the purpose.


I'll be damned, it really does have quite a bit in common with the female pill, which, in quite a few women, depresses the libido almost to nonexistence. Again, it gets the job done, but in the worst way.
 
2019-03-26 09:46:07 AM  

meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.


Not the target market.  This is for monogamous couples who want a second method beyond the female pill, but don't like condoms. (In other words, pretty much every monogamous couple who's not trying to have a baby.)   More convenient than a diaphram or sponge, more reversible than an IUD or a vasectomy, and it's entirely in the man's control.
 
2019-03-26 09:46:40 AM  

meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.


for a casual hookup, not a chance, and it doesn't help that it's only for pregnancy prevention, as you mentioned. but in a marriage or other long-term monogamous relationship it's a great option, especially for women who can't use hormonal birth control for one of a myriad of reasons.
 
2019-03-26 09:47:40 AM  

aagrajag: A vasectomy is still the most fool-proof, side-effect-free form of male birth control


It is. And, if you really want to have kids, they can still take a sperm sample from you without having to reverse the whole thing. In short, if you a man, you're kind of an idiot not to have it done.
 
2019-03-26 09:49:10 AM  
So, a while back I had some kidney stones, and after they passed through the ureter and into my bladder, the good doctors gave me flomax to help pass them.  It had the unfortunate side effect of making not able to not pee.  After two days, I went back and got a replacement for that (Dibenzyline, maybe).  And it worked great, but it had another side effect, discovered during some happy fun time with Mrs. Jonb; I couldn't ejaculate.

Still had orgasm, but nothing came out.  Mrs. Jonb was very happy about this, and it resulted in a lot more fun-time, at least until I passed the stones, and the drug wore off.  This seemed at the time to be a miracle drug to me, and I wonder why this avenue was never pursued?
 
2019-03-26 09:51:58 AM  

Atomic Jonb: So, a while back I had some kidney stones, and after they passed through the ureter and into my bladder, the good doctors gave me flomax to help pass them.  It had the unfortunate side effect of making not able to not pee.  After two days, I went back and got a replacement for that (Dibenzyline, maybe).  And it worked great, but it had another side effect, discovered during some happy fun time with Mrs. Jonb; I couldn't ejaculate.

Still had orgasm, but nothing came out.  Mrs. Jonb was very happy about this, and it resulted in a lot more fun-time, at least until I passed the stones, and the drug wore off.  This seemed at the time to be a miracle drug to me, and I wonder why this avenue was never pursued?


Probably, there were significant side effects associated with long-term use of the drug.
 
2019-03-26 09:52:43 AM  
I think this place is restricted Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish!
 
2019-03-26 09:55:19 AM  

Sniffers Row: "Studies are coming along swimmingly.... err, or not"

I don't see what the big deal is, the military has already developed an effective birth control device for men

[s3files.core77.com image 468x286]


Ahhh. The BCGs. I threw those away the second I was allowed to wear my own. I remember when the Army rolled out an program that actually gave you a choice in frames. You only had 5 to choose from, and they weren't *great*, but they where all much better than the BCGs. I'm thinking that was around '95 or '96?
 
2019-03-26 09:58:41 AM  

aagrajag: robably, there were significant side effects associated with long-term use of the drug.


DSB

/Deadly Sperm Buildup/
 
2019-03-26 09:58:54 AM  

virulent_loser: meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.

for a casual hookup, not a chance, and it doesn't help that it's only for pregnancy prevention, as you mentioned. but in a marriage or other long-term monogamous relationship it's a great option, especially for women who can't use hormonal birth control for one of a myriad of reasons.


So to the same degree that men trust casual hook-ups to be on the pill.

He will take a pill (or takes other precautions) because he doesn't want to get anyone pregnant and doesn't know whether he can trust the one night stand. She will take a pill (or take other precautions) because she doesn't want to get pregnant and doesn't know whether or not she can trust the one night stand.
 
2019-03-26 10:00:38 AM  

Atomic Jonb: Still had orgasm, but nothing came out.  Mrs. Jonb was very happy about this.


I'm sorry. My gf likes what comes out. It's kinda like this:
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/but, you know, with far less hairy Greeks.
 
2019-03-26 10:06:53 AM  

meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.


User name checked out
 
2019-03-26 10:07:11 AM  
After the life changing side effects birth control gave me I would never expect a guy I was dating to put anything in his body that may have negative side effects to their health.

That being said the more options for birth control the better and hopefully one day it will be perfected.
 
2019-03-26 10:13:14 AM  

MythDragon: Atomic Jonb: Still had orgasm, but nothing came out.  Mrs. Jonb was very happy about this.

I'm sorry. My gf likes what comes out. It's kinda like this:
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/but, you know, with far less hairy Greeks.


ok juice is cumming out now
 
2019-03-26 10:21:57 AM  
"I swear, baby, I'm on the pill!"
 
2019-03-26 10:24:02 AM  

aagrajag: hardinparamedic: So to elaborate on why this is a big issue, this pill both mimics the natural form of Testosterone while selectively suppressing only testosterone receptors which are required for the maturation of sperm. This results in selective effects while not blocking or feminizing the user.

Previous clinical trials did not selectively target these receptors, which produced an effect similar to hormone replacement therapy in transgender women.

Most cis men are not going to want inconsistant/blocked orgasm, impotence, and feminization as side effects of a male birth control pill.

A vasectomy is still the most fool-proof, side-effect-free form of male birth control, but some people want to reproduce for reasons quite alien to me.

This seems like a huge step forward for men who wish to keep their options open, especially if your assessment of the rather significant side effects associated with the previous attempt at a male pill is accurate. Seems like an excellent thing to me.


Excellent except for killing testosterone levels. I'm looking forward to the entertaining advertisements for this.. it'll be the exact opposite of the low-t commercials.
 
2019-03-26 10:25:03 AM  

penetrating_virga: aagrajag: hardinparamedic: So to elaborate on why this is a big issue, this pill both mimics the natural form of Testosterone while selectively suppressing only testosterone receptors which are required for the maturation of sperm. This results in selective effects while not blocking or feminizing the user.

Previous clinical trials did not selectively target these receptors, which produced an effect similar to hormone replacement therapy in transgender women.

Most cis men are not going to want inconsistant/blocked orgasm, impotence, and feminization as side effects of a male birth control pill.

A vasectomy is still the most fool-proof, side-effect-free form of male birth control, but some people want to reproduce for reasons quite alien to me.

This seems like a huge step forward for men who wish to keep their options open, especially if your assessment of the rather significant side effects associated with the previous attempt at a male pill is accurate. Seems like an excellent thing to me.

Excellent except for killing testosterone levels. I'm looking forward to the entertaining advertisements for this.. it'll be the exact opposite of the low-t commercials.


It doesn't "kill testosterone". It blocks very specific receptors inside of the testicles which prevent testosterone from maturing sperm cells.

That's the big difference between this drug and previous T-blocking medication attempts.
 
2019-03-26 10:28:31 AM  
wang means penis
 
2019-03-26 10:44:27 AM  

Atomic Jonb: So, a while back I had some kidney stones, and after they passed through the ureter and into my bladder, the good doctors gave me flomax to help pass them.  It had the unfortunate side effect of making not able to not pee.  After two days, I went back and got a replacement for that (Dibenzyline, maybe).  And it worked great, but it had another side effect, discovered during some happy fun time with Mrs. Jonb; I couldn't ejaculate.

Still had orgasm, but nothing came out.  Mrs. Jonb was very happy about this, and it resulted in a lot more fun-time, at least until I passed the stones, and the drug wore off.  This seemed at the time to be a miracle drug to me, and I wonder why this avenue was never pursued?


Phenoxybenzamine, yes it's very effective in blocking your boys from coming out, it was also used to treat BPH. A very effective aplha blocker, but not a very nice or cheap one.
 
2019-03-26 10:46:28 AM  
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2019-03-26 11:11:39 AM  

Herr Morgenstern: Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?


I just wonder if they are going to mandate yearly prostate exams before the doctor writes a prescription
 
2019-03-26 11:12:21 AM  

DerAppie: virulent_loser: meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.

for a casual hookup, not a chance, and it doesn't help that it's only for pregnancy prevention, as you mentioned. but in a marriage or other long-term monogamous relationship it's a great option, especially for women who can't use hormonal birth control for one of a myriad of reasons.

So to the same degree that men trust casual hook-ups to be on the pill.

He will take a pill (or takes other precautions) because he doesn't want to get anyone pregnant and doesn't know whether he can trust the one night stand. She will take a pill (or take other precautions) because she doesn't want to get pregnant and doesn't know whether or not she can trust the one night stand.


sure, in a perfect world where everyone is responsible and doesn't lie, which is not the world we live in. and let's be real, since only one sex can get pregnant, the potential consequences just aren't the same, especially if there's uncertainty as to the father or isn't contact information.
 
2019-03-26 11:13:26 AM  

virulent_loser: meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.

for a casual hookup, not a chance, and it doesn't help that it's only for pregnancy prevention, as you mentioned. but in a marriage or other long-term monogamous relationship it's a great option, especially for women who can't use hormonal birth control for one of a myriad of reasons.


actually I should FTFM as open marriage is a thing. so just long-term monogamous relationships of any kind.
 
2019-03-26 11:16:29 AM  

btraz70: Hey if you can't handle the consequences, keep it in your pants big boy
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The consequences are that you need to have a seat right over there you sick fark.
 
2019-03-26 11:29:56 AM  
Finally, men have the option not to get trapped with the old "keep-a-man" baby.

"it ain't mine, I'm on the pill!"
 
2019-03-26 12:16:09 PM  

virulent_loser: DerAppie: virulent_loser: meat0918: Hey ladies, I have a quick question. Are you really going to trust that some dude is properly taking his pill?

Besides, as a dude I am still wrapping it up because I don't to risk an STI.

for a casual hookup, not a chance, and it doesn't help that it's only for pregnancy prevention, as you mentioned. but in a marriage or other long-term monogamous relationship it's a great option, especially for women who can't use hormonal birth control for one of a myriad of reasons.

So to the same degree that men trust casual hook-ups to be on the pill.

He will take a pill (or takes other precautions) because he doesn't want to get anyone pregnant and doesn't know whether he can trust the one night stand. She will take a pill (or take other precautions) because she doesn't want to get pregnant and doesn't know whether or not she can trust the one night stand.

sure, in a perfect world where everyone is responsible and doesn't lie, which is not the world we live in. and let's be real, since only one sex can get pregnant, the potential consequences just aren't the same, especially if there's uncertainty as to the father or isn't contact information.


Thank you fornagreeing with me I guess.
 
2019-03-26 01:16:39 PM  

Herr Morgenstern: Didn't they already have one but men complained about side effects that were similar to what women experience with their contraceptive pills? Basically men were being babies about it, so they shelved the pill. Or do I have my facts wrong?


Or the media sucks at reporting and you get your news from "the view".
https://www.vox.com/2016/11/2/1349412​6​/male-birth-control-study

Phd's blocked it because of adverse effects.  In today's legal and political climate, it is different than during not todays, when things were easier to get through the pipeline.

And the link is from VOX, not fox news, so I hardly think that they are soft peddling it for men.
 
2019-03-26 01:40:22 PM  

aagrajag: hardinparamedic: So to elaborate on why this is a big issue, this pill both mimics the natural form of Testosterone while selectively suppressing only testosterone receptors which are required for the maturation of sperm. This results in selective effects while not blocking or feminizing the user.

Previous clinical trials did not selectively target these receptors, which produced an effect similar to hormone replacement therapy in transgender women.

Most cis men are not going to want inconsistant/blocked orgasm, impotence, and feminization as side effects of a male birth control pill.

A vasectomy is still the most fool-proof, side-effect-free form of male birth control, but some people want to reproduce for reasons quite alien to me.

This seems like a huge step forward for men who wish to keep their options open, especially if your assessment of the rather significant side effects associated with the previous attempt at a male pill is accurate. Seems like an excellent thing to me.


There is already a male contraceptive in trials called Vasalgel, a version of a method known as RISUG, that is completely non-hormonal, very effective, lasts up to 10 years with one minor procedure, and, at least in animal trials, reliably reversible.  It is already in human trials in India but, unfortunately, the company trying to do the trials in the U.S. has had little financial backing to complete them, apparently because potential investors think men won't want to use any form of birth control, which completely blows my mind.
 
2019-03-26 01:44:40 PM  
5 hours into the thread getting posted for comments and yet, not one comment about how health care insurance will cover the cost of birth control pills for men immediately upon FDA approval?  Fark, your slacking...

/tubes tied. Needed hormone replacement that was in the form of birth control. Health insurance refused to cover it because - birth control. Same insurance co covered the tube tying operation. Needless to say, it gets my ire up to this day.
 
2019-03-26 01:53:32 PM  
Harold?
 
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