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(10 News)   Mom successfully sues deadbeat dad for back child support, which, over 50 years totals over $170,000. "I realized in the middle of the night one night last year, 'Hey, there's no statute of limitations on child support.'"   (10news.com) divider line
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2019-03-25 03:51:04 PM  
Is that kid ever moving out?
 
2019-03-25 04:08:03 PM  
Good luck collecting.
 
2019-03-25 04:10:15 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.


She can always put a lien on his assets. I should tell my mom to do this.
 
2019-03-25 04:15:04 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.


They already settled.
 
2019-03-25 04:19:59 PM  

dv-ous: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

They already settled.


There's no indication he payed, just that they settled for $150,000.00, down from $170,000+. I still think he'll bail on it.
 
2019-03-25 04:29:48 PM  
Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.
 
2019-03-25 04:30:13 PM  
After 50 years mine would be 1.2 million...
 
2019-03-25 04:31:42 PM  

AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.


You still owe it if you didn't pay it in those 18 years.
 
2019-03-25 04:32:18 PM  
Wow, based off 10% interest per year.
Sounds like having a kid with that guy is a pretty solid investment.
 
2019-03-25 04:32:57 PM  
/Engage CSB
About 10 years ago. A work mate of mine got persued for alimony on 3 kids and a mortgage after his missus chucked him out when he caught her screwing their lodger. He quit work, went AWOL for a year making driveways and patios with an Irish groundworks gang then immigrated when he had enough cash.
They still don't know where he buggered off to.
/Disengage CSB
 
2019-03-25 04:33:04 PM  

AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.


Yes, but *collecting* it has not time limit.

He never paid it, but he still owes her money, in other words. It has to work this way, otherwise every deadbeat-dad would just not pay and wait until the kid turns 18.
 
2019-03-25 04:34:01 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

They already settled.

There's no indication he payed, just that they settled for $150,000.00, down from $170,000+. I still think he'll bail on it.


It would really suck if he insisted on a paternity test that proved he wasn't the dad but they still made him pay.
 
2019-03-25 04:36:15 PM  

Slypork: MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

They already settled.

There's no indication he payed, just that they settled for $150,000.00, down from $170,000+. I still think he'll bail on it.

It would really suck if he insisted on a paternity test that proved he wasn't the dad but they still made him pay.


That happens way more than you'd think. The usual reasoning is "for the good of the child". There have been multiple stories in the last few years about guys being forced to pay CP for kids that aren't theirs.
 
2019-03-25 04:36:23 PM  
See?  This is why I never give any of the people I cum in my real name.
 
2019-03-25 04:36:41 PM  
Dear Parent:

If you owe child support pay it.

Love

Your Kid

/ why is this so damn difficult? It's your kid.
 
2019-03-25 04:36:48 PM  

AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.


15 years unpaid child support and 50 years interest that started on the first missed payment.
 
2019-03-25 04:37:48 PM  

gadian: AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.

You still owe it if you didn't pay it in those 18 years.


Interest is what gets you really. 10 percent per year for her apparently.

Someone is right, in this thread, she'll never really collect unless he's rich as sin. Oh and a lien is useless if he's still in Canada because you don't want to know the hassles of dealing with property in another country, not to mention the taxes, liability insurance, and so on. My wife and I bought the family cottage over a decade ago, and we got lucky to be grandfathered in under older insurance rules and because she's still a Canadian citizen. Even with all those advantages it's still as expensive as fark, selling today is just as much of a hassle, and that's if we don't let the insurance lapse.
 
2019-03-25 04:38:23 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

They already settled.

There's no indication he payed, just that they settled for $150,000.00, down from $170,000+. I still think he'll bail on it.


Not if her lawyer is smart, and gets him to agree to an order establishing a payment schedule, which, if violated, would be contempt of court.

I became familiar with a similar case some time ago. The father had paid some support throughout the years but didn't get receipts or other documentation. (Also, he was supposed to pay through the state attorney general and pay their fees.) Once the child was out on her own, mom went to court for child support. Some of the arguments raised were:
1. The child should get the money,
2. The claim is barred by laches (an equitable legal principle that says you can't wait around to make a claim, you need to assert it in a timely manner.)
3. The court should apply equitable principles to infer a statute of limitations.
4. The money had been paid, but there was no record of it.

Regarding #4, the ex-wife lied. In the case described in the article, the length of time before the ex waited to collect should "shock the conscience."
 
2019-03-25 04:38:34 PM  
"I realized in the middle of the night one night last year, 'Hey, there's no statute of limitations on child support.'"

I doubt that you "realized" this, you thought of it and decided to look it up, but you didn't wake up from a sound sleep and say "Hey, child support doesn't have a statute of limitations" unless you're a family law lawyer or something...

And it shouldn't have a statute of limitations because it isn't a crime.
 
2019-03-25 04:38:38 PM  

GlamrLama: Dear Parent:

If you owe child support pay it.

Love

Your Kid

/ why is this so damn difficult? It's your kid.


But them sneaky wimminses tricksied them into busting without any method of birth control.
At least, that's what Fark Force Fedora likes to believe.
 
2019-03-25 04:38:52 PM  
Good for her, but a judgement doesn't guarantee she'll actually get paid.

/Hope she does
 
2019-03-25 04:41:30 PM  

stoli n coke: AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.

15 years unpaid child support and 50 years interest that started on the first missed payment.


Yea, the story itself states if he would have paid it when he should have it only would have been 30k.  Of course 30k back in the 1970s-1980s was still a chunk of change.  The real pain is the 10% interest that drives up the amount in a hurry probably along with administrative fees and collection fees.  Chances are he either owes the State or the Mom will owe the State some of the money if she collected any public benefits in lieu of the child support.
 
2019-03-25 04:42:00 PM  

radarlove: See?  This is why I never give any of the people I cum in my real name.


Always use protection. Use a burner phone.
 
2019-03-25 04:42:51 PM  

WastrelWay: Not if her lawyer is smart, and gets him to agree to an order establishing a payment schedule, which, if violated, would be contempt of court.


I had a neighbor sue a scumbag other neighbor and he was awarded something like $9k.  Scumbag neighbor disappeared a few days later.  The good neighbor hasn't seen a dime and it's been 10 years or so.

You're thinking like a good person, which says a lot about you (good things).
 
2019-03-25 04:43:53 PM  

stoli n coke: GlamrLama: Dear Parent:

If you owe child support pay it.

Love

Your Kid

/ why is this so damn difficult? It's your kid.

But them sneaky wimminses tricksied them into busting without any method of birth control.
At least, that's what Fark Force Fedora likes to believe.


The specifics don't change anything. It DOESN'T matter. If you have a child you have to support it.
 
2019-03-25 04:44:18 PM  
I'm fine with it.
 
2019-03-25 04:44:29 PM  

inglixthemad: gadian: AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.

You still owe it if you didn't pay it in those 18 years.

Interest is what gets you really. 10 percent per year for her apparently.

Someone is right, in this thread, she'll never really collect unless he's rich as sin. Oh and a lien is useless if he's still in Canada because you don't want to know the hassles of dealing with property in another country, not to mention the taxes, liability insurance, and so on. My wife and I bought the family cottage over a decade ago, and we got lucky to be grandfathered in under older insurance rules and because she's still a Canadian citizen. Even with all those advantages it's still as expensive as fark, selling today is just as much of a hassle, and that's if we don't let the insurance lapse.


Says he located back to Oregon in the article which is how she was able to serve him.  If he has property or assets he accumulated over the course of his years, they can be attached although who knows. Remember 50 years has passed so he may have done ok for himself especially wiithout supporting his kid all those years.
 
2019-03-25 04:45:24 PM  

WastrelWay: Not if her lawyer is smart, and gets him to agree to an order establishing a payment schedule, which, if violated, would be contempt of court.


Actually if his lawyer is smart he'll have his client default, give her real property (something non-mobile like land in bumfark nowhere) as compensation, and then laugh.
 
2019-03-25 04:45:31 PM  

inglixthemad: gadian: AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.

You still owe it if you didn't pay it in those 18 years.

Interest is what gets you really. 10 percent per year for her apparently.

Someone is right, in this thread, she'll never really collect unless he's rich as sin. Oh and a lien is useless if he's still in Canada because you don't want to know the hassles of dealing with property in another country, not to mention the taxes, liability insurance, and so on. My wife and I bought the family cottage over a decade ago, and we got lucky to be grandfathered in under older insurance rules and because she's still a Canadian citizen. Even with all those advantages it's still as expensive as fark, selling today is just as much of a hassle, and that's if we don't let the insurance lapse.


The farking article said he's in Oregon now.
 
2019-03-25 04:46:25 PM  

Gpzjock: /Engage CSB
About 10 years ago. A work mate of mine got persued for alimony on 3 kids and a mortgage after his missus chucked him out when he caught her screwing their lodger. He quit work, went AWOL for a year making driveways and patios with an Irish groundworks gang then immigrated when he had enough cash.
They still don't know where he buggered off to.
/Disengage CSB


My takeaway is not to catch my missus screwing our lodger. Sounds like a solid plan.
 
2019-03-25 04:46:37 PM  
Just so I'm clear on this

Is "back child" like "side piece" or something? I am unclear on what a "back child" is.
 
2019-03-25 04:46:49 PM  
I wonder if this applies if they paid SOMETHING?  Anything.
Mrs Johnson's previous husband skipped out leaving her with 2 kids and he would pay her this odd amount of around $656/year or something.

I recall trying to figure this out and found the same number showing up as some kind of legal dodge to show you DID pay CS but paid the absolute minimum possible.  (can't find a reference now though)
I wonder if she has grounds to go after him for whatever he should have paid.  He's not broke and he's easy to find.
 
2019-03-25 04:47:17 PM  
1. How much will the attorneys get?
2. How much will the mom get?
3. How much will the "child" get?
 
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2019-03-25 04:47:32 PM  

gadian: AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.

You still owe it if you didn't pay it in those 18 years.


an ex-roommate is going to be totally farked. He had three kids with three different women. He hopped from job to job, typically in food service, because employers weren't picky about any sort of background or references to hire him, and by the time the state came to garnish his wages (aka, by the time the computer systems of the new employer and the computers of the State synchronized and flagged him as the employee for garnishment) he'd be moving on to a new job.

That was the better part of twenty years ago. He himself went to Oregon last I'd heard, it would be rather poetic if they got him.
 
2019-03-25 04:48:18 PM  

GlamrLama: Dear Parent:

If you owe child support pay it.

Love

Your Kid

/ why is this so damn difficult? It's your kid.


My child support was calculated at $1,300.00 per month. After paying that and rent I've got nothing left to pay my other bills with. CS enforcement is a little heavy handed up here in Canada.
 
2019-03-25 04:49:25 PM  

Daedalus27: Says he located back to Oregon in the article which is how she was able to serve him.  If he has property or assets he accumulated over the course of his years, they can be attached although who knows. Remember 50 years has passed so he may have done ok for himself especially wiithout supporting his kid all those years.


Then it's possible, but it would've been more entertaining to watch if he had stayed in Canada. I love watching cross border nightmares. Nobody has a clue how much of a pain in the *** things become when you start crossing national borders.

He had an attorney so it's plausible he's got money, although if that was the case then the attorney would've tried to for more so let's guess that they'll try to attach to SS or similar.
 
2019-03-25 04:49:43 PM  
I get to start child support pretty soon.  I'm opting for auto-draft so there's a durable 3rd party proof of payment.
 
2019-03-25 04:50:11 PM  

inglixthemad: Someone is right, in this thread, she'll never really collect unless he's rich as sin.


Not true here in Canada. They can and will garnish ALL of your wages / income almost immediately.
 
2019-03-25 04:50:20 PM  

WastrelWay: MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

They already settled.

There's no indication he payed, just that they settled for $150,000.00, down from $170,000+. I still think he'll bail on it.

Not if her lawyer is smart, and gets him to agree to an order establishing a payment schedule, which, if violated, would be contempt of court.

I became familiar with a similar case some time ago. The father had paid some support throughout the years but didn't get receipts or other documentation. (Also, he was supposed to pay through the state attorney general and pay their fees.) Once the child was out on her own, mom went to court for child support. Some of the arguments raised were:
1. The child should get the money,
2. The claim is barred by laches (an equitable legal principle that says you can't wait around to make a claim, you need to assert it in a timely manner.)
3. The court should apply equitable principles to infer a statute of limitations.
4. The money had been paid, but there was no record of it.

Regarding #4, the ex-wife lied. In the case described in the article, the length of time before the ex waited to collect should "shock the conscience."


In the case described in the article, the following happened:

1. Hey, pay child support!
2. Ex-husband flees the farking country.
3. Time passes.
4. Ex-wife goes, hey, maybe he's back in the states now.
5. Turns out he was.
6. Jackpot.

#2 made the length of #3 legally immaterial, I would think.
 
2019-03-25 04:50:38 PM  

ltnor: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

She can always put a lien on his assets. I should tell my mom to do this.


I'm going to tell my mom to put a lien on his assets too.  Not sure why I didn't think of the before.
 
2019-03-25 04:52:46 PM  

AeAe: Am I missing something? I thought child support was only up to 18.


Have you SEEN today's millenials? Bunch of goddamn children they are. And you think keeping your kid in diapers is expensive, try keeping one in Starbucks and beard combs. I think you can collect child support on millenials up until they are 30. Or until they move out of the basement.
 
2019-03-25 04:52:56 PM  
This is why my ex is paid with a paper check, and on every check is a memo for precisely which month this is for. And every check was delivered on time.

Of course the other thing that memo is for is because she had a habit of NOT cashing them for a few months at a time and then cashing them all at once...

/That's why I need quicken to balance my checkbook...
 
2019-03-25 04:53:28 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: I get to start child support pretty soon.  I'm opting for auto-draft so there's a durable 3rd party proof of payment.


I'd set it up for e-mail alerts and print every one of the f*ckers out, not to mention store copies in multiple cloud accounts.  I've never paid child support myself but have seen friends go through some ugly, ugly things with "scorned women."

/I've also seen "scorned men" do some shiatty things too
 
2019-03-25 04:53:40 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.


Blood from a turnup.
 
2019-03-25 04:54:43 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: WastrelWay: Not if her lawyer is smart, and gets him to agree to an order establishing a payment schedule, which, if violated, would be contempt of court.

I had a neighbor sue a scumbag other neighbor and he was awarded something like $9k.  Scumbag neighbor disappeared a few days later.  The good neighbor hasn't seen a dime and it's been 10 years or so.

You're thinking like a good person, which says a lot about you (good things).


I know of a woman who was beaten and badly injured by an ex-boyfriend.   Boyfriend got 3 years in prison and the victim tried to find a lawyer to sue her attacker, but no lawyer would take it, since he was 'judgement proof'.    The victim had a paralegal help her file pro se.   The attacker got served in prison and ignored it.  The victim got a default judgement.  Mr. Attacker got out of prison and moved out of state.  End of story, right?  When the attacker's mother died, he came back to collect his share of his late mother's estate.   The victim was at the probate hearing with judgement in hand.  The attacker's entire share of his late mother's estate was handed over to the victim.   The attacker had to literally be dragged from the hearing room by court officers, while screaming threats and obscenities.
 
2019-03-25 04:54:49 PM  

etoof: Slypork: MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Good luck collecting.

They already settled.

There's no indication he payed, just that they settled for $150,000.00, down from $170,000+. I still think he'll bail on it.

It would really suck if he insisted on a paternity test that proved he wasn't the dad but they still made him pay.

That happens way more than you'd think. The usual reasoning is "for the good of the child". There have been multiple stories in the last few years about guys being forced to pay CP for kids that aren't theirs.


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2019-03-25 04:54:56 PM  

radarlove: See?  This is why I never give any of the people I cum in my real name.


ya, but using radarlover as your go to is not smart, as I've said before.  See, you're just adding an 'r', what if they accidentally forget the 'r' when typing to Google? Then your busted.  You should change the 'r' to a 'q' or something.
 
2019-03-25 04:55:32 PM  

inglixthemad: WastrelWay: Not if her lawyer is smart, and gets him to agree to an order establishing a payment schedule, which, if violated, would be contempt of court.

Actually if his lawyer is smart he'll have his client default, give her real property (something non-mobile like land in bumfark nowhere) as compensation, and then laugh.


Why should she agree to that, assuming he owns any real estate? She wants the money.
 
2019-03-25 04:55:33 PM  
It would be nice if I could ever collect some child support.

My ex was, according to out parenting agreement, supposed to have parenting time with our son every Friday, alternate weekends, and half the holidays. About 1/3 of the year.

She's got some mental health issues and has trouble keeping a job (or off drugs, or from farking other people), so I didn't ask for any support in the divorce. According to state law she should have been paying ~$150/mo, but I jumped through hoops with the judge to avoid that.

As it's worked out she moved a couple counties away, and hardly ever wants to see our son. Last weekend was the first time since October. So I'm spending 50% more on kiddo expenses than expected.

What's more, she's had a couple more kids and that could change the child support equation to the point where I'd owe her child support if she ever wanted to pursue it. I'm going to need to submit a revised parenting plan that refelects the reality of the time she has with our son just to avoid that.
 
2019-03-25 04:56:03 PM  

Gpzjock: /Engage CSB
About 10 years ago. A work mate of mine got persued for alimony on 3 kids and a mortgage after his missus chucked him out when he caught her screwing their lodger. He quit work, went AWOL for a year making driveways and patios with an Irish groundworks gang then immigrated when he had enough cash.
They still don't know where he buggered off to.
/Disengage CSB


10 years ago a workmate was sent to prison by a family court for a crime they didn't commit. This man promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the (Irish? The details are a bit foggy on this) underground. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives in an Irish groundworks gang. If you have a shallow foundation, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.

/Yeah I gave up on this pretty early on
//I have never even seen the A-Team
///Pity the fool blah blah blah
 
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