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2019-03-25 02:11:58 PM  
1) Correct shade of skin.
2) Are "recovered" items high value vs life sustaining?
Show your work.
 
2019-03-25 02:16:56 PM  
Cracker honkeys find things, everybody else is a looter.
 
2019-03-25 02:44:47 PM  
I guess you can buy a lot of high-quality meth from the sale of hot roofing trusses....

/wtf...
 
2019-03-25 03:02:48 PM  
If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.
 
2019-03-25 03:04:49 PM  
Here you go subby.

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/Hmmm
 
2019-03-25 03:04:55 PM  
I remember this from the last thread.  If the items floated out of the store it's finding if you go into the store it's looting.
 
2019-03-25 03:05:20 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.


That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.
 
2019-03-25 03:05:43 PM  
I'm no maritime lawyer, but I think the laws of flotsam and jetsam apply.

/Also, You're a crook, Cap'n Hook!
 
2019-03-25 03:05:45 PM  
Dnrtfa but I'm going with melanin concentration in the skin because this is fark.

In before this is trump's fault.
 
2019-03-25 03:06:35 PM  
This thread needs official Florida Man advice. Mostly-submerged pinball machine... grab it or leave it?
 
2019-03-25 03:07:30 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.


And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?
 
2019-03-25 03:07:51 PM  
 So Lootie was actually just returning the Heinekens to the store?
 
2019-03-25 03:08:24 PM  
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2019-03-25 03:08:25 PM  

Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?


Because melanin is denser than a duck.
 
2019-03-25 03:09:01 PM  
Well TFA said they were arrested for theft after a report of looting.
But don't let that keep woke-fark from breathlessly expressing their white guilt outrage that privileged people got away with something again!
 
2019-03-25 03:09:06 PM  
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2019-03-25 03:11:46 PM  

ChipNASA: [img.fark.net image 183x224]


I came here just for that... thank you.
 
2019-03-25 03:12:24 PM  
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"Don't tell my heart, My achy breaky heart, I just don't think he'd understand!"
 
2019-03-25 03:13:00 PM  

eKonk: I'm no maritime lawyer, but I think the laws of flotsam and jetsam apply.

/Also, You're a crook, Cap'n Hook!



Jason Newsted's old band?

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2019-03-25 03:13:16 PM  
Its "finding" when it belongs in a museum...

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2019-03-25 03:14:26 PM  
The racist asshole who writes the cutline, of course.
 
2019-03-25 03:17:49 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Here you go subby.

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/Hmmm


https://www.salon.com/test/2005/09/02​/​photo_controversy/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hur​r​icane-katrina-looters/

"Looting" photographer saw them go into the store. "Finding" photographer did not.
 
2019-03-25 03:19:48 PM  

This text is now purple: DarkSoulNoHope: Here you go subby.

[photos1.blogger.com image 671x518]
/Hmmm

https://www.salon.com/test/2005/09/02/​photo_controversy/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hurr​icane-katrina-looters/

"Looting" photographer saw them go into the store. "Finding" photographer did not.


LOL. Right. That's the explanation. No racism. You're the racism. No racism.
 
2019-03-25 03:20:36 PM  
Looting is when you take advantage of a disaster to steal property from another person or group, and they suffer a loss because of your actions.

Scavenging is fining items that have no clear connection to a person or group, in the wake of a disaster, or perishable items, like food or medicine, that would be lost anyways, and putting them to use for recovery.

If you walk into someone's store or private home and steal their TV it is theft.  If you find a lawn chair washed up along the sidewalk, it's yours.
 
2019-03-25 03:22:25 PM  

abhorrent1: Well TFA said they were arrested for theft after a report of looting.
But don't let that keep woke-fark from breathlessly expressing their white guilt outrage that privileged people got away with something again!



Looks like its just a thread of folks taking this story as an opportunity to comment about the inequality of how these things are usually reported. Settle down.
 
2019-03-25 03:22:34 PM  
Don't get me started....
 
2019-03-25 03:22:47 PM  
possession is 9/10ths of the law

and anything that's 9/10ths of anything should be considered all of it.
 
2019-03-25 03:23:32 PM  

This text is now purple: DarkSoulNoHope: Here you go subby.

[photos1.blogger.com image 671x518]
/Hmmm

https://www.salon.com/test/2005/09/02/​photo_controversy/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hurr​icane-katrina-looters/

"Looting" photographer saw them go into the store. "Finding" photographer did not.


So the people who "found" bread could have gone into a grocery store to loot it for bread.
 
2019-03-25 03:26:19 PM  
"The victim identified the 40 foot trusses as his property. Investigators said he knew where the trusses were but had not yet been able to recover them."

So he waited until they dragged the trusses up and did all the work for him.
 
2019-03-25 03:27:18 PM  

winedrinkingman: Looting is when you take advantage of a disaster to steal property from another person or group, and they suffer a loss because of your actions.

Scavenging is fining items that have no clear connection to a person or group, in the wake of a disaster, or perishable items, like food or medicine, that would be lost anyways, and putting them to use for recovery.

If you walk into someone's store or private home and steal their TV it is theft.  If you find a lawn chair washed up along the sidewalk, it's yours.



Spoken like someone who thinks that normal rules apply in life and death situations. I am NOT referring to anyone taking a television or an ipad. I'm speaking of people who "loot" bread in a disaster area. Many folks would rather see the bread rot than allow a hungry person to take it because...thats just how farked up we are right now. But, if you were ever in this situation, I'm not sure if you'd be as concerned with possession laws when you're not sure where your next meal will come from.
 
2019-03-25 03:29:01 PM  
"Looting" - taking stuff out of a building that isn't yours.
"Finding" - the stuff is floating down the street.
 
2019-03-25 03:30:41 PM  

Serious Black: This text is now purple: DarkSoulNoHope: Here you go subby.

[photos1.blogger.com image 671x518]
/Hmmm

https://www.salon.com/test/2005/09/02/​photo_controversy/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hurr​icane-katrina-looters/

"Looting" photographer saw them go into the store. "Finding" photographer did not.

So the people who "found" bread could have gone into a grocery store to loot it for bread.


Could have.
 
2019-03-25 03:32:19 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Spoken like someone who thinks that normal rules apply in life and death situations. I am NOT referring to anyone taking a television or an ipad. I'm speaking of people who "loot" bread in a disaster area. Many folks would rather see the bread rot than allow a hungry person to take it because...thats just how farked up we are right now. But, if you were ever in this situation, I'm not sure if you'd be as concerned with possession laws when you're not sure where your next meal will come from.


I mean, it's New Orleans.

I assume everything there is looted.

\It's Detroit, but warmer, and with bigger rats
 
2019-03-25 03:32:57 PM  
What's the point of this goofy thread?

The two men were arrested on felony theft charges, following reports of looting.  Why is the thread full of people complaining they got off easy because they were white? Did people not even read the article but just responded to their pictures?
 
2019-03-25 03:34:48 PM  

2chris2: What's the point of this goofy thread?

The two men were arrested on felony theft charges, following reports of looting.  Why is the thread full of people complaining they got off easy because they were white? Did people not even read the article but just responded to their pictures?



Post someone who said that. Just one.
 
2019-03-25 03:36:50 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.


Found it!

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2019-03-25 03:39:45 PM  
If you return it, you found it. If you keep it, you looted it.
 
2019-03-25 03:39:48 PM  
Skin color is my final answer!

/only here for the prizes...
 
2019-03-25 03:41:19 PM  
There have been very few incidences like this reported with almost the entire state being flooded.  Somewhat impressive, AFAIC.
 
2019-03-25 03:53:26 PM  

Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?


I'll take the word of the guy who took the pictures.  He was, after all, there at the time.
 
2019-03-25 03:54:07 PM  
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The Sturzenegger fella seems pretty bent out of shape about it.
 
2019-03-25 03:56:26 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?

I'll take the word of the guy who took the pictures.  He was, after all, there at the time.


My bad, I thought the same guy took both photos.  Still, I'll take their words over some SJW on Fark.
 
2019-03-25 03:58:44 PM  

2chris2: What's the point of this goofy thread?

The two men were arrested on felony theft charges, following reports of looting.  Why is the thread full of people complaining they got off easy because they were white? Did people not even read the article but just responded to their pictures?


Apparently the difference is a victim complex.
 
2019-03-25 04:01:59 PM  
Sturzenegger Please.
 
2019-03-25 04:02:29 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?

I'll take the word of the guy who took the pictures.  He was, after all, there at the time.


Yes.

Jesus H. Christ, how many times does this urban legend need to be debunked?

The photojournalist used the word "looting" in his caption because he witnessed people going into the closed store and walking out with items. That's the definition of looting, and he witnessed it firsthand.

The second photo is captioned "...with items that they said they found." He did not witness any looting, so he asked the white couple where they got the items and then quoted their answer directly in his caption.

This is News Writing 101, and virtually all legitimate news reporting follows the same rule. For example, most news stories about an arrest are filled with the qualifier "police said," or "according to the police." Why? Because the reporter did not witness the crime.

Why is this so hard to understand?
 
2019-03-25 04:05:41 PM  

clams_casino: NotThatGuyAgain: Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?

I'll take the word of the guy who took the pictures.  He was, after all, there at the time.

Yes.

Jesus H. Christ, how many times does this urban legend need to be debunked?

The photojournalist used the word "looting" in his caption because he witnessed people going into the closed store and walking out with items. That's the definition of looting, and he witnessed it firsthand.

The second photo is captioned "...with items that they said they found." He did not witness any looting, so he asked the white couple where they got the items and then quoted their answer directly in his caption.

This is News Writing 101, and virtually all legitimate news reporting follows the same rule. For example, most news stories about an arrest are filled with the qualifier "police said," or "according to the police." Why? Because the reporter did not witness the crime.

Why is this so hard to understand?


I understood it the first f'n time I read it, lol.  But some people will never be convinced it wasn't "institutinaolized racism" and those are the people leading an angry life, looking for ways to be offended.

/When countries kill millions of your ethnic group, we can talk.
 
2019-03-25 04:15:54 PM  
"Finding" means nobody saw you take it.
 
2019-03-25 04:16:41 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: clams_casino: NotThatGuyAgain: Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?

I'll take the word of the guy who took the pictures.  He was, after all, there at the time.

Yes.

Jesus H. Christ, how many times does this urban legend need to be debunked?

The photojournalist used the word "looting" in his caption because he witnessed people going into the closed store and walking out with items. That's the definition of looting, and he witnessed it firsthand.

The second photo is captioned "...with items that they said they found." He did not witness any looting, so he asked the white couple where they got the items and then quoted their answer directly in his caption.

This is News Writing 101, and virtually all legitimate news reporting follows the same rule. For example, most news stories about an arrest are filled with the qualifier "police said," or "according to the police." Why? Because the reporter did not witness the crime.

Why is this so hard to understand?

I understood it the first f'n time I read it, lol.  But some people will never be convinced it wasn't "institutinaolized racism" and those are the people leading an angry life, looking for ways to be offended.

/When countries kill millions of your ethnic group, we can talk.


I have no problem with calling the behavior of someone who is witnessed going into a store without goods and coming out with goods "looting". OTOH, it does seem to suggest a way for anyone to avoid being called a looter:

1) Do your looting out of awareness of anyone.
2) If caught with goods you looted that aren't your own, claim you simply encountered them in public and there's no way you could have possibly known whose goods they were when they came into your possession.
 
2019-03-25 04:24:03 PM  

Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: clams_casino: NotThatGuyAgain: Serious Black: NotThatGuyAgain: MaudlinMutantMollusk: If you float to it, it's looting. If it floats to you, you found it.

That was pretty much how the photographer of the two infamous photos put it.

And how does anyone know for a fact that items floated to a person or the person floated to the items?

I'll take the word of the guy who took the pictures.  He was, after all, there at the time.

Yes.

Jesus H. Christ, how many times does this urban legend need to be debunked?

The photojournalist used the word "looting" in his caption because he witnessed people going into the closed store and walking out with items. That's the definition of looting, and he witnessed it firsthand.

The second photo is captioned "...with items that they said they found." He did not witness any looting, so he asked the white couple where they got the items and then quoted their answer directly in his caption.

This is News Writing 101, and virtually all legitimate news reporting follows the same rule. For example, most news stories about an arrest are filled with the qualifier "police said," or "according to the police." Why? Because the reporter did not witness the crime.

Why is this so hard to understand?

I understood it the first f'n time I read it, lol.  But some people will never be convinced it wasn't "institutinaolized racism" and those are the people leading an angry life, looking for ways to be offended.

/When countries kill millions of your ethnic group, we can talk.

I have no problem with calling the behavior of someone who is witnessed going into a store without goods and coming out with goods "looting". OTOH, it does seem to suggest a way for anyone to avoid being called a looter:

1) Do your looting out of awareness of anyone.
2) If caught with goods you looted that aren't your own, claim you simply encountered them in public and there's no way you could have possibly known whose goods they were when they came into your ...


Despite the photographer's explanations that were linked to above where they said "We didn't see the two people looting so I didn't call them looters," or the other saying he had seen the people in the store, and neither of them spoke to the subjects of the photos....

Keep farkin that chicken
 
2019-03-25 04:29:17 PM  
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