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2019-03-25 02:23:18 AM  
"If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.
 
2019-03-25 05:59:41 AM  

fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.


Seems like just regular terrorism.
 
2019-03-25 06:01:57 AM  
Or Smolletism.
 
2019-03-25 06:02:38 AM  
Good people on both sides?

F*cking cowards...
 
2019-03-25 06:06:59 AM  

doglover: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Seems like just regular terrorism.


You might be right.  Let me think on it.
 
2019-03-25 06:08:04 AM  

fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.


Can we please not rush to judgement? We have no idea if this person is brown.
 
2019-03-25 06:11:02 AM  
Godfarkingdamnit.  This shiat needs to stop.  Hate is an illness.  Treat it as such.  Any future attack should be reported as done by a pissant manchild/womanchild who couldn't handle their special snowflake feefees  and view of the world not matching reality.  Pity them, mock their patheticness, but do NOT give them a platform... unless it's a gallows.
 
2019-03-25 06:32:26 AM  

doglover: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Seems like just regular terrorism.


Q: When did all the crimes become terrorism ? 

A: After the law was changed to remove some of your rights when charged with it. 

Arson is Arson ... Charging someone with Terrorism is unconstitutional.
 
2019-03-25 06:34:55 AM  

biatchqueen: Godfarkingdamnit.  This shiat needs to stop.  Hate is an illness.  Treat it as such.  Any future attack should be reported as done by a pissant manchild/womanchild who couldn't handle their special snowflake feefees  and view of the world not matching reality.  Pity them, mock their patheticness, but do NOT give them a platform... unless it's a gallows.


Interesting... 

Perhaps we should simply make all the emotions illegal  and quit pretending we are following the laws of the land and the constitution ? 

Without Up there is no down. Without Love there is no hate.
 
2019-03-25 06:36:51 AM  
From TFA: "Yusef Miller, a member of the Muslim community in Escondido, said it was fortunate the fire happened before the early morning prayer when there weren't as many people at the mosque. 'God bless that it didn't happen that way,' he said."

This.  A thousand times this.
 
2019-03-25 06:38:28 AM  
"Lieutenant Lick" would be a good name for this guy:

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2019-03-25 06:41:16 AM  

fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.


Definitely not insurance fraud, that never happens.
 
2019-03-25 06:45:26 AM  

Sean VasDeferens: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Definitely not insurance fraud, that never happens.


I don't think the NZ Mosque being attacked means that the Mosque was trying to scam insurance, though.
 
2019-03-25 06:45:58 AM  
Let's hope that the criminal was dumb enough to leave plenty of evidence so they get caught quickly.  It's better if this kind of attack never happens, but when it does, I want justice to be swift and through.
 
2019-03-25 06:47:36 AM  
Meh, NZ/Au prick was just a  derivative of the right wing gun loving US pricks.  For example the bozos who shoot up the SC Baptist church and a Synagogue recently. That NZ/AU dickhead just got lucky.  It is damn shame NZ won't do him like the US did Timmy Mcveigh, asap.
 
2019-03-25 06:48:39 AM  
I wonder if the Muslims buy into that its a miracle because everything burnt except the Sacred text BS.
 
2019-03-25 06:53:46 AM  

fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.


Just like the stabbing of the priest in Canada, and the rash of vandalism against Catholic Churches in France - both recently linked here on Fark.

Right?
 
2019-03-25 07:02:28 AM  
Is it too early to talk about fire control?
 
2019-03-25 07:05:26 AM  

bannerrefugee: Meh, NZ/Au prick was just a  derivative of the right wing gun loving US pricks.  For example the bozos who shoot up the SC Baptist church and a Synagogue recently. That NZ/AU dickhead just got lucky.  It is damn shame NZ won't do him like the US did Timmy Mcveigh, asap.


Both countries ended execution a while back: Austrialia in 1967, New Zealand in 1989. No one wants to return to state-sanctioned savagery.

It's not like executions in the US have significantly lowered the homicide rate...
 
2019-03-25 07:12:49 AM  
2:1 right wing/neocon terrorism (DNRTA, some mention of a note referring to that attack)
10:1 attention whore Muslim
20:1 paid off Muslim to take the heat off and "see, they're not all good"

/why, yes, we also have many people that would do stuff for money
//the silver lining to this bloody cloud is how much interest it brought in the faith
///there were videos from the attacked mosque with a guy showing well-wishers and visitors around. He said every single day they'd have 1-2 converts (reverts). I'm sure some people will have a problem with that. A false-flag paid off Muslim will severely affect the interest
 
2019-03-25 07:14:40 AM  
My brother and I drove through Escondido many, many years ago. We were lost and no matter what we did, we kept ending up at this family-owned donut shop.y
So we bought a couple bags of donuts and were able to get back on course after that.
They were really good donuts too.
 
2019-03-25 07:24:27 AM  
Yep I know.
I agree except, I don't think we are talking about standard homicide, this is a person who broadcast killing 50 for racist reasons.  It's a social movement.  Its not someone killing there partner in jealous rage.
 
2019-03-25 07:24:40 AM  
Took awhile for a copycat, and nobody dead?

I expected worse, tbh.
 
2019-03-25 07:25:05 AM  

Mitch Mitchell: doglover: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Seems like just regular terrorism.

You might be right.  Let me think on it.


Well, when you're done, grab your baton and lead us all in a rousing singalong.
 
2019-03-25 07:30:25 AM  

Resident Muslim: 2:1 right wing/neocon terrorism (DNRTA, some mention of a note referring to that attack)
10:1 attention whore Muslim
20:1 paid off Muslim to take the heat off and "see, they're not all good"

/why, yes, we also have many people that would do stuff for money
//the silver lining to this bloody cloud is how much interest it brought in the faith
///there were videos from the attacked mosque with a guy showing well-wishers and visitors around. He said every single day they'd have 1-2 converts (reverts). I'm sure some people will have a problem with that. A false-flag paid off Muslim will severely affect the interest


I wasn't going to bring it up because I didn't want to be "false flag!" guy, but this does have some earmarks of attention-seeking (specifically, the extremely safe and superficial fire with overly-articulated motive). But it also fits with impromptu hate speech from local idiot/child bigots.

/"insurance fraud" suggested earlier makes no sense, though
 
2019-03-25 07:30:53 AM  
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2019-03-25 07:32:11 AM  
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/have known one
//she's dead now
///the sex was amazing
 
2019-03-25 07:33:17 AM  
Druish lightning?
 
2019-03-25 07:36:30 AM  

fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.


Just like Australia.

They moved to fires next. Next comes car attacks.
 
2019-03-25 07:40:10 AM  

Richard Saunders: [img.fark.net image 425x345]
/have known one
//she's dead now
///the sex was amazing


Uh...better correct that for accuracy.

The sex was amazing prior to her death.

/love and miss her
//still mad at her
 
2019-03-25 08:01:42 AM  

Resident Muslim: 2:1 right wing/neocon terrorism (DNRTA, some mention of a note referring to that attack)
10:1 attention whore Muslim
20:1 paid off Muslim to take the heat off and "see, they're not all good"

/why, yes, we also have many people that would do stuff for money
//the silver lining to this bloody cloud is how much interest it brought in the faith
///there were videos from the attacked mosque with a guy showing well-wishers and visitors around. He said every single day they'd have 1-2 converts (reverts). I'm sure some people will have a problem with that. A false-flag paid off Muslim will severely affect the interest


This of course assumes they are not unusually well-insured.
 
2019-03-25 08:08:50 AM  

ElPresidente: [img.fark.net image 220x220]


Oi, now...

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2019-03-25 08:10:48 AM  
Are we sure it's not just a volunteer fireman getting his fix? True they usually pick abandoned properties but still.
 
2019-03-25 08:10:50 AM  
It's not like the PM of New Zealand didn't encourage it. They gave the guy everything he wanted on his wish list then topped it off by treating him as a he-who-shall-not-be-named, censoring every trace of evidence.
In he end He's more famous than ever.

Unfortunatly that means people will either copycat to get the same notoriety or false flag for the sympathetic attention.
 
2019-03-25 08:17:12 AM  

SwiftFox: Resident Muslim: 2:1 right wing/neocon terrorism (DNRTA, some mention of a note referring to that attack)
10:1 attention whore Muslim
20:1 paid off Muslim to take the heat off and "see, they're not all good"

/why, yes, we also have many people that would do stuff for money
//the silver lining to this bloody cloud is how much interest it brought in the faith
///there were videos from the attacked mosque with a guy showing well-wishers and visitors around. He said every single day they'd have 1-2 converts (reverts). I'm sure some people will have a problem with that. A false-flag paid off Muslim will severely affect the interest

This of course assumes they are not unusually well-insured.


If you torch a building for insurance fraud, you do not set a small easily-contained fire outside the concrete structure and then immediately put it out with a fire extinguisher before the FD gets there, resulting in a bit of superficial scorch damage. The idea of insurance fraud is to obtain money from the insurer. You collect that money based on the actual damage done to the insured property. What some of y'all are suggesting is kind of like punching yourself in the arm for life insurance money.
 
2019-03-25 08:38:09 AM  

geggam: doglover: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Seems like just regular terrorism.

Q: When did all the crimes become terrorism ? 

A: After the law was changed to remove some of your rights when charged with it. 

Arson is Arson ... Charging someone with Terrorism is unconstitutional.


Same thing with hate crimes. Because it's somehow worse to shoot a man in the face because you don't Iike his skin color vs shooting him in the face because you don't like the colors he's wearing.
I'd think murder is murder. (Degrees of which, notwithstanding of course)
 
2019-03-25 08:51:18 AM  
Then the killings began.
 
2019-03-25 08:55:10 AM  
Ohhhh

Copy catting

When it is white terrorist action working in collaboration toward a goal there is no pattern.

Gotcha
 
2019-03-25 08:57:44 AM  

MythDragon: geggam: doglover: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Seems like just regular terrorism.

Q: When did all the crimes become terrorism ? 

A: After the law was changed to remove some of your rights when charged with it. 

Arson is Arson ... Charging someone with Terrorism is unconstitutional.

Same thing with hate crimes. Because it's somehow worse to shoot a man in the face because you don't Iike his skin color vs shooting him in the face because you don't like the colors he's wearing.
I'd think murder is murder. (Degrees of which, notwithstanding of course)


Yes of course, no need to see patterns.

Let's do away with RICO statutes as well, theft is theft.  Isolated incidents is all
 
2019-03-25 09:01:16 AM  
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2019-03-25 09:13:02 AM  

way south: It's not like the PM of New Zealand didn't encourage it. They gave the guy everything he wanted on his wish list then topped it off by treating him as a he-who-shall-not-be-named, censoring every trace of evidence.
In he end He's more famous than ever.


Maybe in the internet circles where you roll; I have seen one picture of the dude, and couldn't even tell you his name. I've heard far more of his victims, and that, to me, seems as it should be.

But Voat/8chan/Gab, yeah, I'm sure he's a hero over there, but he would be anyway.
 
2019-03-25 09:25:51 AM  

asmodeus224: MythDragon: geggam: doglover: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Seems like just regular terrorism.

Q: When did all the crimes become terrorism ? 

A: After the law was changed to remove some of your rights when charged with it. 

Arson is Arson ... Charging someone with Terrorism is unconstitutional.

Same thing with hate crimes. Because it's somehow worse to shoot a man in the face because you don't Iike his skin color vs shooting him in the face because you don't like the colors he's wearing.
I'd think murder is murder. (Degrees of which, notwithstanding of course)

Yes of course, no need to see patterns.

Let's do away with RICO statutes as well, theft is theft.  Isolated incidents is all


RICO has nothing to do with emotions. RICO has to do with the scale of theft. 

I have no problem with giving the murderers of the 9/11 atrocity 3000+ counts of murder ... this terrorism crap and all this fear based legislation is about political ambitions in moving crowds will. 

Good thing the US is a republic or this emotional stuff could be used as crowd control  see : new zealand
 
2019-03-25 09:32:02 AM  

iron de havilland: way south: It's not like the PM of New Zealand didn't encourage it. They gave the guy everything he wanted on his wish list then topped it off by treating him as a he-who-shall-not-be-named, censoring every trace of evidence.
In he end He's more famous than ever.

Maybe in the internet circles where you roll; I have seen one picture of the dude, and couldn't even tell you his name. I've heard far more of his victims, and that, to me, seems as it should be.

But Voat/8chan/Gab, yeah, I'm sure he's a hero over there, but he would be anyway.


Imagine that YouTube has had its search filters disabled for over a week because they quite literally cannot figure out a way to stop people from uploading the footage to the platform.

I'm aware that all blogs suck and everything, but I'll propose this is actually a pretty interesting read on the topic, the gist of which is that "nothing matters" has evolved into "nothing matters so much that I'll not only go out in a blaze of glory, but I'll stream it to the entire internet".

It's like your favorite YouTube media personalities, only with more nihilism and more killings.
 
2019-03-25 09:34:26 AM  

iron de havilland: way south: It's not like the PM of New Zealand didn't encourage it. They gave the guy everything he wanted on his wish list then topped it off by treating him as a he-who-shall-not-be-named, censoring every trace of evidence.
In he end He's more famous than ever.

Maybe in the internet circles where you roll; I have seen one picture of the dude, and couldn't even tell you his name. I've heard far more of his victims, and that, to me, seems as it should be.

But Voat/8chan/Gab, yeah, I'm sure he's a hero over there, but he would be anyway.


Read the dudes manifesto and you might understand his goals a bit better. Being famous wasn't one of them on his list.
 
2019-03-25 09:41:53 AM  

SwiftFox: Resident Muslim: 2:1 right wing/neocon terrorism (DNRTA, some mention of a note referring to that attack)
10:1 attention whore Muslim
20:1 paid off Muslim to take the heat off and "see, they're not all good"

/why, yes, we also have many people that would do stuff for money
//the silver lining to this bloody cloud is how much interest it brought in the faith
///there were videos from the attacked mosque with a guy showing well-wishers and visitors around. He said every single day they'd have 1-2 converts (reverts). I'm sure some people will have a problem with that. A false-flag paid off Muslim will severely affect the interest

This of course assumes they are not unusually well-insured.


From what I've seen in my travels, mosques outside of wealthy Arab countries are rarely more than a carpeted enclosed square.
There are a few rare exceptions (usually also built by rich Arab countries), but they are usually just expensive in terms of solid architecture, carpeting and fixtures.
Mosques don't have 'artifacts' and few of them have extended libraries. And most of those libraries only have very common, inexpensive books.

All said (I'm not sure legal setup-wise) I would assume most, of not all, are trusts or established in such a way that they have a board that manages it, but no clear 'owner' that could benefit from insurance fraud.

/the one video of the mosque I saw shows it to be what I described as an enclosed, carpeted square. I doubt the others would be any different
 
2019-03-25 09:49:03 AM  

geggam: biatchqueen: Godfarkingdamnit.  This shiat needs to stop.  Hate is an illness.  Treat it as such.  Any future attack should be reported as done by a pissant manchild/womanchild who couldn't handle their special snowflake feefees  and view of the world not matching reality.  Pity them, mock their patheticness, but do NOT give them a platform... unless it's a gallows.

Interesting... 

Perhaps we should simply make all the emotions illegal  and quit pretending we are following the laws of the land and the constitution ?


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2019-03-25 09:50:22 AM  
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2019-03-25 09:52:53 AM  
0% surprised by this being in Escondido.

It's a poorer suburb of San Diego, politically dominated by a thin membrane of ultra wealthy super conservative GOPers, and populated mainly by poor latinos and rednecks, and very much feels like a place stuck in the 80's. Spent way too much time there, and never found much to like about the area except Peterson's donuts.
 
2019-03-25 09:58:37 AM  

BrerRobot: I wonder if the Muslims buy into that its a miracle because everything burnt except the Sacred text BS.


I do not see why not.  It's magical thinking after all.  I kind of hope they do, and one of them produces such a book, so we can turn it into a meme to use everytime the Christian's do so.

That said, who ever did this is a complete asshat and thankfully no one was hurt.
 
2019-03-25 09:58:49 AM  

gar1013: fusillade762: "If its an arson, it's possibly a hate crime as well," Escondido Police Department (EPD) Lt. Chris Lick said.

It's farking terrorism is what it is.

Just like the stabbing of the priest in Canada, and the rash of vandalism against Catholic Churches in France - both recently linked here on Fark.

Right?


Hey, let's not forget about the 12 Christian villages in Nigeria that were wiped out by Muslims in 4 days with over 200 dead last year. I'll bet you are all familiar with that one?

Oh right, the American press didn't even report on it...
 
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