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2019-03-23 07:53:27 PM  
Single stream here and they toss everything into a compactor before shipping.
 
2019-03-23 08:06:49 PM  
Umm I don't care.  I just want my dime back.
 
2019-03-23 08:13:32 PM  
I'm so glad I live in a city that doesn't bother with recycling.  No need to waste my time on that BS.
 
2019-03-23 08:19:51 PM  
We have a can bag. Only aluminum cans go in there. They are crushed to conserve space. Haven't gotten any complaints from anyone we take them to.
 
2019-03-23 08:46:44 PM  
1. Fark that.  I'm being forced to separate my recyclables from my trash.  I will remain  in guidelines and flatten  my cans to save space.

2.  Article is stupid.  States that it's good to store plastic bottles crushed with caps on.  Truth is, the lids can be made of a different recyclable material (plastic bottle, metal cap) and they have to employ people at great expense to uncap and separate the materials.

To summarize, Fark That.
 
2019-03-23 08:53:15 PM  
You can only get money back if the UPC can be read.
 
2019-03-23 08:56:09 PM  

Earguy: 2.  Article is stupid.  States that it's good to store plastic bottles crushed with caps on.  Truth is, the lids can be made of a different recyclable material (plastic bottle, metal cap) and they have to employ people at great expense to uncap and separate the materials.


They have a separate article about the bottles. You should crush the bottle then put the cap back on. Loose caps end up falling through the cracks and not being recycled, and the caps are made from the high grade plastic they they want. Separating them is done by shredding then putting them in water. The shredded cap remains float, the bottle remains sink. Easy.
 
2019-03-23 08:58:59 PM  
Listen, there are a lot of steps between my place and the dumpster.  And trash bags are like $0.50 each so imma fill it up.
 
2019-03-23 09:05:33 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Earguy: 2.  Article is stupid.  States that it's good to store plastic bottles crushed with caps on.  Truth is, the lids can be made of a different recyclable material (plastic bottle, metal cap) and they have to employ people at great expense to uncap and separate the materials.

They have a separate article about the bottles. You should crush the bottle then put the cap back on. Loose caps end up falling through the cracks and not being recycled, and the caps are made from the high grade plastic they they want. Separating them is done by shredding then putting them in water. The shredded cap remains float, the bottle remains sink. Easy.


You're really making it hard for me to be a know-it-all.
 
2019-03-23 09:09:46 PM  
We pay a deposit, 5 cents a can. We save our cans for kids doing bottle drives, I have to crash them or it would get overwhelming, there are very few bottles drives from November to May. It's completely fine to crush them, they are sorted at the bottle depot.
 
2019-03-23 09:14:50 PM  

Earguy: Carter Pewterschmidt: Earguy: 2.  Article is stupid.  States that it's good to store plastic bottles crushed with caps on.  Truth is, the lids can be made of a different recyclable material (plastic bottle, metal cap) and they have to employ people at great expense to uncap and separate the materials.

They have a separate article about the bottles. You should crush the bottle then put the cap back on. Loose caps end up falling through the cracks and not being recycled, and the caps are made from the high grade plastic they they want. Separating them is done by shredding then putting them in water. The shredded cap remains float, the bottle remains sink. Easy.

You're really making it hard for me to be a know-it-all.


I read it because last time I checked the official advice here was "No caps". After reading that article I checked my local recycling site and they now say leave caps on. An hour ago I'd have argued the exact same point as you.
 
2019-03-23 09:38:07 PM  
Can we just admit that we've destroyed this planet and get on with our lives?
 
2019-03-23 09:57:09 PM  
Carter Pewterschmidt: I read it because last time I checked the official advice here was "No caps".

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NO CAPS!


/just checked mine: no caps or lids
 
2019-03-23 09:59:10 PM  
If that's true why does the machine at the store crush them automatically?
 
2019-03-23 10:25:56 PM  
I have to separate glass, plastic bottles, and aluminum cans before I take them to the local recycling center. The dudes there never complain about crushed cans.
 
2019-03-23 10:33:36 PM  
Ah, the folks that didn't read the article.

If you sort them out before you drop them off, it doesn't matter. They're already sorted, so they dont have to go through a machine that could mis-sort them.

If you dump everything in one bin you probably shouldn't crush them, because the sorting machine might sort them incorrectly.
 
2019-03-23 10:36:19 PM  

fusillade762: If that's true why does the machine at the store crush them automatically?


Because they are then sent to a dedicated can recycling process. Mixed trash has to be sorted and separated, and that's where cans should be left uncrushed to make the sorting easier.
 
2019-03-23 10:43:30 PM  
and then baled & shipped to a landfill in south dakota.
 
2019-03-23 10:44:41 PM  
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2019-03-23 10:44:46 PM  
I will say, having moved from St. Louis to southeast Michigan, and being an avid fisherman, I appreciate the recycling program.  Won't find many cans and bottles on the banks around here.  Definitely makes me buy more 2 liter bottles than 12 packs, though.  And I'll be deep in the cold earth before I call it "pop".
 
2019-03-23 10:57:58 PM  
Single stream where I live and they tell us to keep the caps off of the bottles as they're two different kinds of plastic.
 
2019-03-23 10:59:04 PM  
Why even farking bother with this shiat.  You try to do the right thing, then you get informed that you're doing it the wrong way.  It doesnt matter to me, because I throw all my trash in the trash and don't mess with it.  but this article is just another thing that confirms that its not worth it for the amount of trouble you go through.   They want me to recycle this shiat, design something that sorts out garbage without me having to remember seventeen things to do it right.

I know that this makes me an asshole to some people but, but rest assured you and your well done recycling are surely saving the world one can at a time.
 
2019-03-23 11:03:13 PM  

UseUrHeadFred: I will say, having moved from St. Louis to southeast Michigan, and being an avid fisherman, I appreciate the recycling program.  Won't find many cans and bottles on the banks around here.  Definitely makes me buy more 2 liter bottles than 12 packs, though.  And I'll be deep in the cold earth before I call it "pop".


Well, then you will be dead and not able to call it 'pop', even though I get your sentiment.  coke is the correct answer.
 
2019-03-23 11:12:51 PM  

phedex: Why even farking bother with this shiat.  You try to do the right thing, then you get informed that you're doing it the wrong way.  It doesnt matter to me, because I throw all my trash in the trash and don't mess with it.  but this article is just another thing that confirms that its not worth it for the amount of trouble you go through.   They want me to recycle this shiat, design something that sorts out garbage without me having to remember seventeen things to do it right.

I know that this makes me an asshole to some people but, but rest assured you and your well done recycling are surely saving the world one can at a time.


Our City pays for trash disposal, but not recycling.
The more stuff that ends up properly recycled means less trash to be disposed of which keeps our trash pickup bill low.
So for me, it is about $$$, not "saving the world"
 
2019-03-23 11:17:29 PM  
I'm an anti-recycletarian...I crush the cans and then feed the cans to large fish, large mammals, large lizards, large birds and normal sized platypusii.
 
2019-03-23 11:24:42 PM  
I honestly don't get the reflexive hate some people seem to have for recycling.

Have you ever driven by a landfill?
 
2019-03-23 11:26:19 PM  

almejita: I'm an anti-recycletarian...I crush the cans and then feed the cans to large fish, large mammals, large lizards, large birds and normal sized platypusii.


Platypodes.
 
2019-03-23 11:28:37 PM  
I don't crush them. The machine at the liquor store crushes them. Blame them.

Actually I don't bring them there either. I stopped returning them when I realized I made more money working in my profession than the money I got back from returning my calls and bottles.

I do still collect them and leave them out for the nice old Asian lady that prowls the streets looking for them so she can return them for the money.
 
2019-03-23 11:40:27 PM  
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2019-03-23 11:49:23 PM  
Redemption state here; .5 cents a can. The place our cans go to pay 12$ per large bag. If I crush them, I'm only hurting myself.

/Crushed one on my head, once.
//..and only once.
 
2019-03-23 11:51:45 PM  
Oh, and the third '/' fell between the slats on the sorting belt and is gone forever.
 
2019-03-23 11:55:58 PM  

ZMugg: almejita: I'm an anti-recycletarian...I crush the cans and then feed the cans to large fish, large mammals, large lizards, large birds and normal sized platypusii.

Platypodes.


That was my bad, we actually feed the crushed cans to all normal sized monotremes.  We don't discriminate.
 
2019-03-23 11:57:41 PM  
I don't crush mine, the guy that checks my garbage  for cans does. I don't even bother to place them in the recycle bin, since that guy will happily rummage through my garbage and get them.
/He's like my own recycling middle man
 
2019-03-24 12:47:22 AM  

UseUrHeadFred: And I'll be deep in the cold earth before I call it "pop".


It's coke dammit y'all.
 
2019-03-24 12:50:18 AM  

Esc7: I honestly don't get the reflexive hate some people seem to have for recycling.

Have you ever driven by a landfill?


Do you actually believe that what you put in the blue bin is being recycled?

We used to ship that sh*t to China, where they half-assed it. Now China won't take our garbage any more. It's going in the landfill anyway.
 
2019-03-24 01:02:55 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Earguy: Carter Pewterschmidt: Earguy: 2.  Article is stupid.  States that it's good to store plastic bottles crushed with caps on.  Truth is, the lids can be made of a different recyclable material (plastic bottle, metal cap) and they have to employ people at great expense to uncap and separate the materials.

They have a separate article about the bottles. You should crush the bottle then put the cap back on. Loose caps end up falling through the cracks and not being recycled, and the caps are made from the high grade plastic they they want. Separating them is done by shredding then putting them in water. The shredded cap remains float, the bottle remains sink. Easy.

You're really making it hard for me to be a know-it-all.

I read it because last time I checked the official advice here was "No caps". After reading that article I checked my local recycling site and they now say leave caps on. An hour ago I'd have argued the exact same point as you.


Seems to me that just tossing everything in the trash and mining landfills later is the more effective thing to do than constantly re-educating the population how you want the recyclables delivered.
 
2019-03-24 01:13:57 AM  

Esc7: I honestly don't get the reflexive hate some people seem to have for recycling.

Have you ever driven by a landfill?


I think the hate comes from the fact that every city's rules are different, and ever changing.  No matter what/how you recycle, you are informed after the fact you did it wrong and your load has been sent to the dump instead.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some soup cans ready to recycle.  I've removed the labels and washed them thoroughly.  Now I just need to knit them each a sweater and read them Goodnight Moon.
 
2019-03-24 01:51:47 AM  
I've started just melting them into ingots in the backyard. cans and glass are a huge pain in the ass to recycle
 
2019-03-24 03:14:14 AM  
Its really not that hard to find a place that only takes cans and pays you for them based on weight
 
2019-03-24 03:18:24 AM  

almejita: I'm an anti-recycletarian...I crush the cans and then feed the cans to large fish, large mammals, large lizards, large birds and normal sized platypusii.


"Charismatic megafauna" is a term that will change your life.
 
2019-03-24 03:50:49 AM  

HeathenHealer: [img.fark.net image 425x181]


Crushing a can one handed (from Jaws clip) was much more impressive when they were steel cans.
 
2019-03-24 06:13:06 AM  

optikeye: HeathenHealer: [img.fark.net image 425x181]

Crushing a can one handed (from Jaws clip) was much more impressive when they were steel cans.


It's even better when, in response to that, Dreyfuss crushes the plastic cup he's drinking from... :P
 
2019-03-24 06:21:59 AM  
When I lived in a redemption state I crushed them and left bags of them in the ally behind my house. I didn't feel like hauling them to the redemption center and that homeless guy down the street wanted to eat.
 
2019-03-24 07:03:50 AM  
I worked with  a guy many years ago who told me that he and his wife would put gravel in their empty aluminum cans before taking to be recycled. Added weight.
 
2019-03-24 08:32:31 AM  
Ripped aluminum is extremely sharp. Crushed cans have ripped edges and pointy corners that can cut you, or the bag they're stored in. Other than that, crush away.

And keeping the caps on bottles is stupid. People do that because they're too farking lazy to go to the sink and dump it out so you get containers full of water and sugar and spit and air in the recycling stream which the recycler really does not want.
 
2019-03-24 08:57:17 AM  
Modern systems don't care about crushed cans, or lid bottles. Get a modern system and it won't matter.

Can recycling is still a great business for money laundering. Around here glass and cans in the mixed recycling pay for everything else but the grey ties want a can deposit which will end recycling of cardboard and everything else or make it insanely expensive.
 
2019-03-24 09:02:09 AM  

Esc7: I honestly don't get the reflexive hate some people seem to have for recycling.

Have you ever driven by a landfill?


I lived in Philly for a while, so yes I've driven by New Jersey.
 
2019-03-24 09:39:53 AM  

dryknife: I worked with  a guy many years ago who told me that he and his wife would put gravel in their empty aluminum cans before taking to be recycled. Added weight.


As a kid I collected cans for money and yeah, my dad taught me to do that with a few cans "here or there." He also taught me to rinse the bags down with water for a few minutes. Ostensibly to "clean" them but it was really to add water weight.
 
2019-03-24 10:55:40 AM  

SharkaPult: dryknife: I worked with  a guy many years ago who told me that he and his wife would put gravel in their empty aluminum cans before taking to be recycled. Added weight.

As a kid I collected cans for money and yeah, my dad taught me to do that with a few cans "here or there." He also taught me to rinse the bags down with water for a few minutes. Ostensibly to "clean" them but it was really to add water weight.


Is your dad named "Mac," and has an ass crack that goes all the way up to his shoulders by any chance?
Oh, and is a junkie?
 
2019-03-24 01:44:12 PM  
Recycling is just cheating our descendants of good loot when they have to mine our landfills.
 
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