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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   Jobs coming to northeast Georgia as massive battery factory breaks ground. The project, involving a division of Korean conglomerate SK Group, is being called Georgia's largest economic development prize in a decade   (ajc.com) divider line
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2019-03-19 04:29:37 PM  
Awesome and with Governor Douche Von Cheater in charge I am sure they will be able to  dump the waste directly in the streams. Especially if libs in Atlanta may have to drink it.
 
2019-03-19 04:30:15 PM  
How much was that land they're building the battery factory on?
"No charge."
/got nuthin'
//and it shows
 
2019-03-19 05:42:43 PM  
Initially, it will have a production capacity of 10 gigawatts...

Great Scott!
 
2019-03-19 06:43:59 PM  
And we all know how well these work out.

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2019-03-19 06:48:21 PM  
"The deal is expected to bring 2,000 jobs to Jackson County, northeast of Atlanta, making it the largest economic development deal in Georgia since Kia Motors opened in West Point a decade ago."
"The nearly $1.7 billion factory, which will open in phases and is expected to reach its full jobs potential by 2025, is a coup for Georgia."
If those are the bs promise numbers then I gotta say I'm not too impressed. Especially if that number is counting the outside service jobs created by the factory workers kind of thing. I mean, good for them for landing a bunch of jobs but that's about 1% of the countries average job gains but over the next 6 years. Also didn't say if the state is handing them a bunch of money and tax breaks as well.
 
2019-03-19 06:58:50 PM  
Good.
 
2019-03-19 07:20:33 PM  
Good.  It also shows that the investment is in the future of electric and hybrid vehicles, not gasoline-powered only. The supply chain for the US market will locate in the US if it is economical just as the supply chain for the Asian market will locate there if economical.
 
2019-03-19 07:34:26 PM  
I hope they have some really powerful smelling salts because he's been dead for awhile.
 
2019-03-19 07:45:53 PM  
Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.
 
2019-03-19 07:49:13 PM  

make me some tea: Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.


Yes. And the more they make, the more affordable they will be.
 
2019-03-19 07:49:29 PM  

Bannanaslug: "The deal is expected to bring 2,000 jobs to Jackson County, northeast of Atlanta, making it the largest economic development deal in Georgia since Kia Motors opened in West Point a decade ago."
"The nearly $1.7 billion factory, which will open in phases and is expected to reach its full jobs potential by 2025, is a coup for Georgia."
If those are the bs promise numbers then I gotta say I'm not too impressed. Especially if that number is counting the outside service jobs created by the factory workers kind of thing. I mean, good for them for landing a bunch of jobs but that's about 1% of the countries average job gains but over the next 6 years. Also didn't say if the state is handing them a bunch of money and tax breaks as well.


They'll get it built and then say "well it would appear the wonders of automation have drastically lowered our expected labor needs". Just like Foxconn did. And the highly specialized jobs end up bringing people in not hiring local (which is still a boon to the community, but does nothing for the guy working at 7-11 that would have loved $21-36/hr)

And, we'll see how much they gave away. If the people living there (not getting the actually-automated jobs) end up having to pick up the tax bill for all the increased infrastructure and maintenance required to the area around the factory. And making batteries can possibly be nasty business depending on what type. That's gonna have an impact.

Or maybe not. Maybe it will be a good thing, and we're just jaded by all the shady shiat we've been exposed to. But I wouldn't bet on it.
 
2019-03-19 07:58:16 PM  

make me some tea: Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.


I bet shipping costs of (heavy) batteries is enough alone for the move to make sense. Not sure what kind of margin they operate in but it can't be huge.

How much of a Tesla's cost is in the batteries I wonder?  Perhaps domestic production could also help lower electric car prices...

I see enough on the road but I don't think they've taken off yet (because of price). And they really need to. I mentioned battery production can be nasty, but.... if you could trade all combustion engines on the road for some battery factories I think that would almost certainly be a good trade.
 
2019-03-19 08:25:52 PM  
Union Carbide - Love Canal
 
2019-03-19 08:41:37 PM  

MurphyMurphy: And, we'll see how much they gave away. If the people living there (not getting the actually-automated jobs) end up having to pick up the tax bill for all the increased infrastructure and maintenance required to the area around the factory. And making batteries can possibly be nasty business depending on what type. That's gonna have an impact.

Or maybe not. Maybe it will be a good thing, and we're just jaded by all the shady shiat we've been exposed to. But I wouldn't bet on it.


Jackson County already has a bunch of warehouses and distribution centers. They need roads and infrastructure anyway. They needed to widen I-85 years ago, it's a bottleneck of rolling hills and lots of trucks. I don't have to drive that way often, thank goodness.
 
2019-03-19 08:54:13 PM  

WTFDYW: make me some tea: Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.

Yes. And the more they make, the more affordable they will be.


It's not affordable, bui I still want my Tesla Model X....( leave the Rollin' Coal* morons here in Oregon far behind, eating my volts...)

* not really a problem near Portland, its more of a Southern Oregon thing...
 
2019-03-19 08:59:28 PM  

MurphyMurphy: make me some tea: Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.

I bet shipping costs of (heavy) batteries is enough alone for the move to make sense. Not sure what kind of margin they operate in but it can't be huge.

How much of a Tesla's cost is in the batteries I wonder?  Perhaps domestic production could also help lower electric car prices...

I see enough on the road but I don't think they've taken off yet (because of price). And they really need to. I mentioned battery production can be nasty, but.... if you could trade all combustion engines on the road for some battery factories I think that would almost certainly be a good trade.


IRRC the battery pack in a Tesla is ~$10k, varying based on range. Their Gigafactory only assembles cells into batteries. The actual lithium cells are still produced in Asia.
 
2019-03-19 09:00:23 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: WTFDYW: make me some tea: Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.

Yes. And the more they make, the more affordable they will be.

It's not affordable, bui I still want my Tesla Model X....( leave the Rollin' Coal* morons here in Oregon far behind, eating my volts...)

* not really a problem near Portland, its more of a Southern Oregon thing...


Edit; Model S , not X
 
2019-03-19 09:01:56 PM  
Lunacy has found them.
 
2019-03-19 09:21:10 PM  

MurphyMurphy: How much of a Tesla's cost is in the batteries I wonder?  Perhaps domestic production could also help lower electric car prices...


Tesla has a battery factory in Nevada. Largest building footprint on Earth

Tesla Gigiafactory 1
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2019-03-19 09:26:57 PM  

dsmith42: Their Gigafactory only assembles cells into batteries. The actual lithium cells are still produced in Asia.


This story says they started making their own cells in 2017. Also that getting battery cost down with in-house production is a key part of their strategy.

Tesla Gigafactory 1 has already produced over half a billion battery cells
"According to a recent report, Tesla's Gigafactory 1 battery cells have a 20% cost advantage over LG Chem, which is seen as the leader in EV battery cell by many.
They claim that Tesla's battery cell cost is at $111 per kWh and LG Chem is at $148 per kWh.
Tesla recently said that it aims to be at $100 per kWh by the end of last year. The new cost level would enable the production of the standard Model 3 battery pack next year."
 
2019-03-19 09:53:24 PM  

jaytkay: dsmith42: Their Gigafactory only assembles cells into batteries. The actual lithium cells are still produced in Asia.

This story says they started making their own cells in 2017. Also that getting battery cost down with in-house production is a key part of their strategy.

Tesla Gigafactory 1 has already produced over half a billion battery cells
"According to a recent report, Tesla's Gigafactory 1 battery cells have a 20% cost advantage over LG Chem, which is seen as the leader in EV battery cell by many.
They claim that Tesla's battery cell cost is at $111 per kWh and LG Chem is at $148 per kWh.
Tesla recently said that it aims to be at $100 per kWh by the end of last year. The new cost level would enable the production of the standard Model 3 battery pack next year."


Cool. Thanks for the update.
 
2019-03-19 09:54:19 PM  

jaytkay: MurphyMurphy: How much of a Tesla's cost is in the batteries I wonder?  Perhaps domestic production could also help lower electric car prices...

Tesla has a battery factory in Nevada. Largest building footprint on Earth

Tesla Gigiafactory 1
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LOL,,, no. Not even in the Top 10 largest.
Google is your friend and teacher.
 
2019-03-19 09:57:34 PM  

CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.


Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.
 
2019-03-19 10:03:37 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Forbidden Doughnut: WTFDYW: make me some tea: Great news!

Also good to know that electric car sales are picking up stateside so much that companies are investing in battery production here.

Yes. And the more they make, the more affordable they will be.

It's not affordable, bui I still want my Tesla Model X....( leave the Rollin' Coal* morons here in Oregon far behind, eating my volts...)

* not really a problem near Portland, its more of a Southern Oregon thing...

Edit; Model S , not X


Model X is the only Tesla that I do not like.  Model Y performance is my favorite
 
2019-03-19 10:05:36 PM  

jaytkay: CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.

Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.


Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.
 
2019-03-19 10:07:55 PM  
Battery factory in Jackson county one of their main customers (Volkswagen) is in Chattanooga
Glad to see the jobs My question Are they going to deliver them going down 85 across 285 and up 75 or just shoot across the 2 lane twisty roads of N Georgia
No win either way
 
2019-03-19 10:17:11 PM  

CaptSS: jaytkay: CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.

Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.

Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.


And the Tesla factory is number 3, interesting considering it was an abandoned car plant before Teala bought it.
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2019-03-19 10:25:33 PM  

Bannanaslug: CaptSS: jaytkay: CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.

Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.

Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.

And the Tesla factory is number 3, interesting considering it was an abandoned car plant before Teala bought it.
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Yeah, my dog Sparky showed me the list with the Tesla factory in Fremont, CA on it. My dog is a smart ass.
 
2019-03-19 10:30:19 PM  
CaptSS:Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.

Now use your link to see the list "Largest Footprint"

The list is out of date. Note it shows the largest at 518,000 m2 .

The "footprint of the [Tesla battery factory ] is about 6 million square feet [557,418 square meters] the total planned floor space could exceed 10 million square feet.

Google is your your friend. Thanks for playing. Dipshiat.
 
2019-03-19 10:31:07 PM  

Bannanaslug: CaptSS: jaytkay: CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.

Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.

Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.

And the Tesla factory is number 3, interesting considering it was an abandoned car plant before Teala bought it.
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That isn't footprint. Different measurement.

Now lecture me on Googling some more.
 
2019-03-19 10:55:41 PM  

jaytkay: Bannanaslug: CaptSS: jaytkay: CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.

Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.

Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.

And the Tesla factory is number 3, interesting considering it was an abandoned car plant before Teala bought it.
[img.fark.net image 425x227]

That isn't footprint. Different measurement.

Now lecture me on Googling some more.


You cited an article 2 1/2 years old.
Straight from the horse's mouth
Currently 1.9 million sq.ft, which is what is referenced in the link my dog Sparky looked up for you.
So no, your statement is still wrong. It is not the largest building footprint.
It's ok to be wrong. Everybody gets schooled on occasional.
Now, if you will excuse me, Sparky wants to argue about the spelling of dumbass/dumb ass. Got to run, nice talking to you pal.
 
2019-03-19 11:15:47 PM  

CaptSS: It's ok to be wrong.


Like when you pointed to a chart that wasn't relevant.

LOL smarmy child.
 
2019-03-19 11:21:37 PM  
Can we just take a step back here and point out that the largest building on that list is a flower auction. Never would I have guessed that shiat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aalsm​e​er_Flower_Auction
And one day the giga factory could be the biggest, that article linked above is old but said Tesla bought the land around the current facility and they have lots of room to expand if business stays good. And batteries are a pretty solid long term technology so even if it's not soon it will likely be later.
 
2019-03-20 07:06:45 AM  

jaytkay: CaptSS: It's ok to be wrong.

Like when you pointed to a chart that wasn't relevant.

LOL smarmy child.


Thanks for entertaining me this morning with this all this macho posturing.

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2019-03-20 09:24:14 AM  

CaptSS: jaytkay: Bannanaslug: CaptSS: jaytkay: CaptSS: Google is your friend and teacher.

Feel free to list 10 bigger ones, Sparky.

Your claim comes in at #16. Thanks for playing.

And the Tesla factory is number 3, interesting considering it was an abandoned car plant before Teala bought it.
[img.fark.net image 425x227]

That isn't footprint. Different measurement.

Now lecture me on Googling some more.

You cited an article 2 1/2 years old.
Straight from the horse's mouth
Currently 1.9 million sq.ft, which is what is referenced in the link my dog Sparky looked up for you.
So no, your statement is still wrong. It is not the largest building footprint.
It's ok to be wrong. Everybody gets schooled on occasional.
Now, if you will excuse me, Sparky wants to argue about the spelling of dumbass/dumb ass. Got to run, nice talking to you pal.


I figure if you fine morning folk are being pedantic...
 
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