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5 days ago  
Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.
 
5 days ago  
"Hey boss, I saw a story that parents in Cali were donating to schools so their kids could get the teachers they want"
"That's not a bad idea!"
"I only skimmed it but that was the gist of it I think"
 
5 days ago  
How mind-blowingly stupid does that principal have to be to think that was a good idea?  Holy shiat.
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.


Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".
 
5 days ago  
DNRTFA.  However if it is a private school, and this is a known fact of enrollment in that school, then let the buyer beware when they enroll in that school.
 
5 days ago  
If only teachers themselves could start accepting gratuities from parents then perhaps this whole "underpaid teacher" thing might sort itself out.

Who am I kidding, nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
 
5 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: How mind-blowingly stupid does that principal have to be to think that was a good idea?  Holy shiat.


Hey, when schools are broke as fark, you gotta make up for the shortfalls somehow.
 
5 days ago  
Oregoons

meh
 
5 days ago  
I've been to some schools where it would have been good to be able to bribe them to fire some teachers.
 
5 days ago  

advex101: DNRTFA.  However if it is a private school, and this is a known fact of enrollment in that school, then let the buyer beware when they enroll in that school.


It's a public school and, "the news outlet reported that 50 percent of Markham Elementary School's students come from underserved communities, and 46.1 percent of them receive free or reduced-price lunch."
 
5 days ago  

advex101: DNRTFA.  However if it is a private school, and this is a known fact of enrollment in that school, then let the buyer beware when they enroll in that school.


It's also well known that generally speaking, the shiattier the student, the richer the parents, when it comes to private schools.
 
5 days ago  
I remember in elementary school every boy wanted to get the male teacher in 4th grade, Mr. Huffman. He's a boy, but he's a teacher! Whoa! Finally a teacher that would understand how weird girls were and how much better micro machines were than barbie.
Alas, I was not one of the chosen ones.
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.


Truly, nothing bad can come from discouraging parental involvement.

\and then they squawk when their funding gets cut
 
5 days ago  
That is just cringe-worthy...you just know one teacher got like $1.
 
5 days ago  
Next up: your local PD and FD.
 
5 days ago  

jaytkay: advex101: DNRTFA.  However if it is a private school, and this is a known fact of enrollment in that school, then let the buyer beware when they enroll in that school.

It's a public school and, "the news outlet reported that 50 percent of Markham Elementary School's students come from underserved communities, and 46.1 percent of them receive free or reduced-price lunch."


Which would put it just under the state average of 47% for free or reduced lunch.   Posted just for information, it's been my experience that most people don't understand how many kids fall under those programs.
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.


Not that there aren't assholes everywhere, but at my school admin is tired as fark about every whiny helicopter parent trying to micromanage their child's every life experience. And those parents suck ass.  When my son didn't get the teacher we wanted for 1st grade, My point to my wife is that kids need to deal with challenges now while they're young, or they will be poorly equipped to deal with reality.
 
5 days ago  

Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".


In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)
 
5 days ago  
Unless you are born at the front of the line, you will never see it.

But at college I learned this lesson well. If you have friends in sufficient numbers you can join them in line.

The line is always twice as long as it looks because of all the people serving as place-holders for those who can't be arsed to arrive early and often.
 
5 days ago  
I read all the comments and just now rtfa. WTF? This was wrong on so many levels.
 
5 days ago  
Sometimes I was the guy joining his friends, sometimes I was the guy behind. Unless you got there very early, you didn't get through the line without being one or the other. Of course, some people arrived unavoidably late and were only able to get the leftovers, if that.

That's the great thing about college. Not all the education takes place in the classrooms or seminars.
 
5 days ago  
Weren't some people just indicted for doing something similar?
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)


Thanks for clearly illustrating why people devalue possibly one of the most important parts of our society. Many teachers pay out of pocket for their own supplies. You can kiss my ass with they are overpaid or paid enough line. it's the over paid administration that needs a good, hard look at.
 
5 days ago  
There are two kinds of triage. Money and non-money.

Under a National Health Care system, you may go to the front of the line according to need. This is socialism: From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

Or you can buy a place in line at auction or from a friend or family member.

The US loves money, so money triage rules.

This school has simply brought the bidding above the table and formalized it so that everybody can see who has the pecuniary power, the conspicuous leisure and the conspicuous consumption. Instead of the rich and  motivated parents holding the carwashs and the bakesales, they hold an auction. Forthright, simple, and hopefully not open to as much cheating and false shows of effort.

It's wrong, but it is a more capitalist form of wrong than social jockeying for position and preferment at the tiny orange hands of the King.

Very American. Still wrong, but a pragmatic and democratic form of wrong. Those with the gold make the rules. Anybody can work harder, work smarter, push their children harder, but only money is totally innocent, like a hot smoking pistol.

Welcome to America! And welcome to Fark if this is your first time as a Farker!
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)


shiat, dude, my public school district was so broke that we had to have bake sales, promotions, and so on to be able to afford shiat, plus grants given from the local businesses.

Hell, my mom, who was an art teacher there for 40 years, ended up having to go around to all the office supply stores in the area and beg for donations, dumpster-dive when various companies cleaned out their supply closets, etc. to get the materials she needed for her classes.

That district, because of the encroachment of charter schools, is now over 20Mil in debt, with no way to pay for shiat.

When you literally cannot afford to run your school without extra money coming in, it's not a matter of it being an ethical problem, it's a matter of "shiat, we either take it and actually be able to run our school, or we don't and we go another year without textbooks newer than 1967."
 
5 days ago  

vsavatar: Weren't some people just indicted for doing something similar?


Parents who are lawyers don't have to cheat or lie. They know where the loopholes are buried, because most of the people who buried them in the legislation, lobbyists, members of Congress, Presidents and their cronies, are the same sort of people.

Same for all professionals and business people. They can all do it all legal like. Legal like. Not ethically, perhaps, but people expect their lawyers and accountants and doctors to know how to game the game. It's a game. Winners win and losers die.
 
5 days ago  

viscountalpha: beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)

Thanks for clearly illustrating why people devalue possibly one of the most important parts of our society. Many teachers pay out of pocket for their own supplies. You can kiss my ass with they are overpaid or paid enough line. it's the over paid administration that needs a good, hard look at.


This.

People biatch and moan about having to be on an airline or in a restaurant with someone else's "crotch fruit" because they don't want to deal with kids.

Well, Teachers have volunteered to not only be around them, but to deal with them and teach 20+ of them, in one room, all day, every business day of the week. For those that do K-3rd grade, that may include dealing with kids having issues with bodily functions and every damn plague that comes along.

On top of that, they agree to all of the extra work to handle curriculum building, grading, and all of the extra work that goes into preparing a student.

Teachers work their farking asses off by and large.

If you think the teachers are paid too much, how about we lock you in a room with 20 screaming 8 year olds for 8-9 hours a day, 5 days a week, and see how YOU feel about it.
 
5 days ago  
Silly actresses, thinking their children are born to be elite. Only lawyers and clerical brats and army brats are born entitled. Unless they are rich. Most of the rich are born that way. The children, grandchildren and greatgrandchildren of the rich are born to the manor and the manners. They outnumber their Founders by many to one.

There are thousands of Duponts, on average millionaires even today. But most of them are mere millionaires, not the super-rich kind you think of when you think of the great aristocratic names of Dupont, Rockefeller, Gates, Texaco and Chucky Cheeze.
 
5 days ago  

God-is-a-Taco: I remember in elementary school every boy wanted to get the male teacher in 4th grade, Mr. Huffman. He's a boy, but he's a teacher! Whoa! Finally a teacher that would understand how weird girls were and how much better micro machines were than barbie.
Alas, I was not one of the chosen ones.


same thing happened in my school for 6th grade.  I did get in the class.  but then he died.  right in front of us.  went into a diabetic coma and never came out.
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)


Where is "around here?"
 
5 days ago  

SUMMERSN0WS: Where is "around here?"


Somewhere extremely bootstrappy, where those kids tell that teachin lady the only letters they need to know are U, S, and A.
 
5 days ago  

viscountalpha: beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)

Thanks for clearly illustrating why people devalue possibly one of the most important parts of our society. Many teachers pay out of pocket for their own supplies. You can kiss my ass with they are overpaid or paid enough line. it's the over paid administration that needs a good, hard look at.


We spent at least $100 on the "classroom supply list" at the beginning of the year (everything went into communal tubs). Along with every other parent. My daughter's teacher most certainly didn't "pay for all the supplies," or even a substantial portion of the supplies (if anything at all).

Clearly, in some places, parents don't kick in. Schools should pay for supplies in those areas. But your broad assertion that teachers must finance their own supplies isn't entirely correct.
 
5 days ago  

SUMMERSN0WS: beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)

Where is "around here?"


Lexington, Kentucky.
 
5 days ago  
America though, is an extremely boot-strapy nation. Very rare and precious, although not so beautiful if you have to work yourself to death so you don't have to work yourself to death like poor people do.


I have said this before: 9% of Americans will be in the top 1% of earners for part or all of their life.

That is extraordinary. In Europe you can be born an aristocrat with a grand title and no money, or with the grand title (which you will soft-soap) and lots of money. But you are born to it and can't escape it even if you renounce the title, and squander the money. A duke is a duke is a duke even if he is a common journalist or policeman by day and only an aristocrat at the times when he can scrape together enough theft, begging, borrowing and charity to rent the ermines and coronet back from whoever they were sold to by his impecunious father, uncle or grandfather.

America is truly the home and native land of money, and it can simulate anything, including happiness and sexiness and wit and wisdom.

Count yourself luck to be Americans unless you are in the bottom 80%, in chich case you might be better off in Canada or somewhere American-Lite or simply more efficiently capitalistic than American capital. Luxembourg is tiny, but the average per capita income is several times the US average, and the number of rich and upper middle class professionals and business people to every addict is high.

The countries I call All the Usual Suspects have many advantages and many disadvantages. Choose your poison, pardnuh.
 
5 days ago  
I can imagine what would have happened if this stupid idea went through.  When little Kyleleigh isn't getting the grades/extra attention her parents expect, they are going to come back to that teacher

But...but...we BOUGHT you.
 
5 days ago  

beezeltown: SUMMERSN0WS: beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)

Where is "around here?"

Lexington, Kentucky.


The average teacher pay in Lexington Kentucky is not 70,000 a year. It's less than that.

https://www1.salary.com/KY/Lexington/​T​eacher-Elementary-School-salary.html
 
5 days ago  

booniepepper: I can imagine what would have happened if this stupid idea went through.  When little Kyleleigh isn't getting the grades/extra attention her parents expect, they are going to come back to that teacher

But...but...we BOUGHT you.


Intellectuals, and school teachers are notional such even if they are dumber than half a brick, are the worst kind of scum in this world.

Like Congresscritters, they just won't STAY BOUGHT. Have no worries and put your faith in Dharma or Karma. I call it randomness or chance, but the laws of Nature I believe to be at best serving suggestions, like the ridiculous numbers printed as "potions" on packaging.

Two Oreo cookies per serving? Who ever ate two? Some old woman perhaps, my Mother can eat half a banana or drink half a can of Coke, but really, real people (besides Mothers) don't do that kind of thing.
 
5 days ago  
I requested a specific teacher for one of my kids when he entered 3rd grade. The letter I sent to the principal included the reason why I wanted that specific teacher.  His kindergarten teacher was a nice woman who saw his blond hair, blue eyes and thought he did no wrong. The teacher he had in 1st grade was also a nice woman who was not blinded by his impish good looks and charm. 'Kid, your gonna stop fiddlefarking around and get your work done!'  2nd grade, pushover.

The year he was moving to 3rd grade, his first grade teacher was moved to 3rd grade to teach. Oh yes, I want that one!  She was brilliant and saw right thru the shenanigans.
/he is 22 now. Favorite teacher ever was the one he had twice. Why? She instilled a love of reading and history into him.
//I was the first parent at that school to ask for their child to have that specific teacher. The other parents tried to get their kids out of her class. She was too tough on them...
 
5 days ago  
For "potions" read "portions". I am not advocating Harry Potterism.

Magic portions! Hmmm! As if you could stay slim through exercise (which doesn't really exist) and caloric restriction! Ha! Not one person in a thousand can stay slim. It ain't human without personal trainers.
 
5 days ago  

brantgoose: For "potions" read "portions". I am not advocating Harry Potterism.

Magic portions! Hmmm! As if you could stay slim through exercise (which doesn't really exist) and caloric restriction! Ha! Not one person in a thousand can stay slim. It ain't human without personal trainers.


Are you ok?
 
5 days ago  

no_tan_lines: I requested a specific teacher for one of my kids when he entered 3rd grade. The letter I sent to the principal included the reason why I wanted that specific teacher.  His kindergarten teacher was a nice woman who saw his blond hair, blue eyes and thought he did no wrong. The teacher he had in 1st grade was also a nice woman who was not blinded by his impish good looks and charm. 'Kid, your gonna stop fiddlefarking around and get your work done!'  2nd grade, pushover.

The year he was moving to 3rd grade, his first grade teacher was moved to 3rd grade to teach. Oh yes, I want that one!  She was brilliant and saw right thru the shenanigans.
/he is 22 now. Favorite teacher ever was the one he had twice. Why? She instilled a love of reading and history into him.
//I was the first parent at that school to ask for their child to have that specific teacher. The other parents tried to get their kids out of her class. She was too tough on them...


Cool story, Bro (or Sis). I wish my parents had cared a bit more about my education when I was getting straight As with no effort. The teachers, sadly, were good people mostly, and worked hard to bring up the laggards and the, well, 'tards". Which is fair and good. But I was left to my own devices because I was smart, well-baved if too mouthy, and apparently self-motivating, but really a bit too lazy because I could do it  all without putting my nose to the grindstone. My siblings were not so bright nor so lucky, and had to work harder for an education and a living.

Hey, you are probably damned if you do, and damned if you don't, so enjoy whatever you can in the way of victories, while learning from the mistakes. So few people learn from any mistakes, theirs or other peoples, that you are way ahead of the game if you learn how to work or how to play the game fairly and honestly.
 
5 days ago  

booniepepper: brantgoose: For "potions" read "portions". I am not advocating Harry Potterism.

Magic portions! Hmmm! As if you could stay slim through exercise (which doesn't really exist) and caloric restriction! Ha! Not one person in a thousand can stay slim. It ain't human without personal trainers.

Are you ok?


Oh, save your concern trolling for somebody you can hope to understand. If I don't care, why should other people? It's just a joke, son. A joke. J-o-k-e.
 
5 days ago  

SUMMERSN0WS: beezeltown: SUMMERSN0WS: beezeltown: Kit Fister: beezeltown: Wow. In my daughter's school, if you so much as breathe the name of a preferred teacher, your kid is shiatlisted and packed into Ms. Don't Talk To Me I Retire In 200 Days' class.

Not sure if there's any group more vindictive and convinced of their self-importance than the teachers and administrators at her school. I mean, the school is decent, but they're not cranking out Nobel Laureates or anything.

Cooperation of staff and their politeness towards you is directly proportional to the size of your "donations".

In a public school, I see that as a substantial ethical problem. Of course, there likely is some truth to it, but the standard parental shakedown for fundraisers and all the extras already runs about $200/month. That's just to "keep up" with what the majority of other kids are doing.

The "pay the teachers more" argument, around here, is a little hard to swallow. They average $70k/year, plus generous benefits, pension and summers off. Not saying they're "overpaid," but they seem to be doing pretty well. The principal earns twice that amount. Teachers, locally, are relatively well paid.
(I know someone's going to throw bricks at me for saying that, but the "low pay" load of shiat needs to be flushed, around here, anyway.)

Where is "around here?"

Lexington, Kentucky.

The average teacher pay in Lexington Kentucky is not 70,000 a year. It's less than that.

https://www1.salary.com/KY/Lexington/T​eacher-Elementary-School-salary.html


Ain't nobody got time for a link: "The average Teacher Elementary School salary in Lexington, KY is $54,251 as of February 28, 2019, but the range typically falls between $44,440 and $64,346. "

That seems a pretty long way from "$70k" and not particularly great pay. $54k is not Kansas bad, but it's not overpaid.
 
5 days ago  
I switched teachers in high school to move classes from an incompetent physics teacher to a competent one. It was not easy. The school of course told my parents it was impossible and could not be done, I put a lot of effort into convincing my incompetent physics teacher that she did not want me in her class anymore than I wanted to be in her class. I got changed by her request.
/Worth it, loved physics and still do
 
5 days ago  

booniepepper: brantgoose: For "potions" read "portions". I am not advocating Harry Potterism.

Magic portions! Hmmm! As if you could stay slim through exercise (which doesn't really exist) and caloric restriction! Ha! Not one person in a thousand can stay slim. It ain't human without personal trainers.

Are you ok?


He's always like that.
 
5 days ago  

mathamagical: I switched teachers in high school to move classes from an incompetent physics teacher to a competent one. It was not easy. The school of course told my parents it was impossible and could not be done, I put a lot of effort into convincing my incompetent physics teacher that she did not want me in her class anymore than I wanted to be in her class. I got changed by her request.
/Worth it, loved physics and still do


If you're clever enough to identify incompetence in a highschool physics teacher, you're clever enough to teach yourself whatever it is you need to know at that level and more.  The life lesson to be learned is how to cope with idiocy in the workplace without screwing up your career.
 
5 days ago  
ftfa: ''They checked with the school's principal who approved the idea moments before the auction was set to begin.''

So, they conveniently *didn't* tell the principal until the last minute?...   Sounds odd.
 
5 days ago  

cefm: mathamagical: I switched teachers in high school to move classes from an incompetent physics teacher to a competent one. It was not easy. The school of course told my parents it was impossible and could not be done, I put a lot of effort into convincing my incompetent physics teacher that she did not want me in her class anymore than I wanted to be in her class. I got changed by her request.
/Worth it, loved physics and still do

If you're clever enough to identify incompetence in a highschool physics teacher, you're clever enough to teach yourself whatever it is you need to know at that level and more.  The life lesson to be learned is how to cope with idiocy in the workplace without screwing up your career.


Sure* but the good physics teachers give better demos. Had another phys teacher almost set the room on fire with a homemade Rubens tube, that was a good one.

*IB HL physics went a long way beyond f=ma so having a teacher that actually understood the subject made a lot of difference because they were able to explain why the equations worked rather than just presenting it as algebraic formulas to be memorized.
 
5 days ago  
They should do it the old fashioned way.  Mom would talk to the principal, the principal would be very clear that they couldn't accommodate requests for teacher assignments, and then I would be assigned to the requested teacher.  No money or gifts involved.
 
5 days ago  

This text is now purple: booniepepper: brantgoose: For "potions" read "portions". I am not advocating Harry Potterism.

Magic portions! Hmmm! As if you could stay slim through exercise (which doesn't really exist) and caloric restriction! Ha! Not one person in a thousand can stay slim. It ain't human without personal trainers.

Are you ok?

He's always like that.


Thanks for the clarification.  I actually was concerned.  The writing reminded ne of a friend when he went manic.
 
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