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2019-03-15 06:49:18 PM  
The BAD kind, Submitter.

Gotta make that clear.
 
2019-03-15 07:59:24 PM  
We endorsed Sen. Cory Gardner in 2014 because we believed he'd be a statesman.

If you believed any Republican would demonstrate statesmanship, that's on your dumb ass.
 
2019-03-15 08:00:03 PM  
We endorsed Sen. Cory Gardner in 2014 because we believed he'd be a statesman. We knew he'd be a conservative voice in Congres...

Stop right there, I see your problem.
 
2019-03-15 08:02:53 PM  
As a Colorado resident, my best guess for that vote is that Gardner figured he was farked in 2020 anyway and is angling for a conservative media or similar position.
 
2019-03-15 08:03:06 PM  
Donnie is -15pts. in approval in Colorado. In November, every single statewide GOP candidate on the ballot lost. Is Gardner insane or stupid? He's dead meat next year.
 
2019-03-15 08:05:04 PM  

El_Dan: As a Colorado resident, my best guess for that vote is that Gardner figured he was farked in 2020 anyway and is angling for a conservative media or similar position.


He's worried he'd have to face a Republican primary in what's perceived as an increasingly blue state. The reality of Colorado is that it isn't more Democratic than even 10 years ago, it's just that the Republicans have increasingly lost their damned minds.
 
2019-03-15 08:05:23 PM  
Stop linking sites that stop people  from reading linked articles.
 
2019-03-15 08:07:53 PM  
Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.
 
2019-03-15 08:08:39 PM  

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2019-03-15 08:12:44 PM  
I gotta think there will be more, many more, of these retractions, or at a minimum endorsements for someone else as we work our way into 2020.

But, there is a part of me that says "Who gives a shiat about these endorsements anymore?".

Used to be that your local paper and the big 3 evening newscasts were your only news sources. So if the local Bugle or Telegraph told you that Bob Smith was a good man and he is who you should vote for, people did.

Now, what with the interwebz, cable news, and other outlets from which to get your daily fix, I just don't think they matter all that much.

I can remember when, believe it or not, an endorsement from the Des Moines Register and Tribune was a big deal. (I never really did understand why). Even to POTUS races. Not so much anymore.
 
2019-03-15 08:14:47 PM  

This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.


Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.
 
2019-03-15 08:16:10 PM  

gonegirl: This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.

Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.


Wasn't the Rocky Mountain News the more conservative one?
 
2019-03-15 08:16:27 PM  

Massively Multiplayer Addict: Stop linking sites that stop people  from reading linked articles.


I refuse to click on Rawstory links anymore. I swear that farkin' place is full of malware. And I am not the only one who has complained about it, but it still gets 2-3 greenlights a day.
 
2019-03-15 08:18:11 PM  
From TFA:

"This is a bogus emergency that takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama."

imgs.xkcd.comView Full Size


Gonna need an example of Obama's "overreach" here, Chief.
 
2019-03-15 08:18:57 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Stop linking sites that stop people  from reading linked articles.

I refuse to click on Rawstory links anymore. I swear that farkin' place is full of malware. And I am not the only one who has complained about it, but it still gets 2-3 greenlights a day.


It's also just absolute and total garbage. Full of lies and whatnot. It's so bad that I kinda think it's a right-wing plot to make the left look bad.
 
2019-03-15 08:19:10 PM  

firefly212: El_Dan: As a Colorado resident, my best guess for that vote is that Gardner figured he was farked in 2020 anyway and is angling for a conservative media or similar position.

He's worried he'd have to face a Republican primary in what's perceived as an increasingly blue state. The reality of Colorado is that it isn't more Democratic than even 10 years ago, it's just that the Republicans have increasingly lost their damned minds.


Yup. I liked Mike Coffman except for him being a Republican.
 
2019-03-15 08:19:57 PM  

This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.


Funny thing, they used to be considered the more liberal of the two papers. But the Rocky Mountain News folded in 2009 after 9 years of a bizarre joint operating agreement with the Post. Then the Post got bought by a hedge fund that neutered it by firing tons of reporters and putting it behind a paywall. Setting aside small outfits like The Colorado Independent and  The Denverite, Denver is basically a zero-newspaper town.
 
2019-03-15 08:21:52 PM  

Mrtraveler01: gonegirl: This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.

Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.

Wasn't the Rocky Mountain News the more conservative one?


Oh yeah it was.

The Post has always been more accurate. Far more accurate. The RMN liked to try and beat the Post to the story and half the time they missed critical parts of them.
 
2019-03-15 08:22:38 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

"This is a bogus emergency that takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama."

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

Gonna need an example of Obama's "overreach" here, Chief.


Presidenting while black was an overreach for a large segment of the country.
 
2019-03-15 08:23:14 PM  

Dafatone: Farkin_Crazy: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Stop linking sites that stop people  from reading linked articles.

I refuse to click on Rawstory links anymore. I swear that farkin' place is full of malware. And I am not the only one who has complained about it, but it still gets 2-3 greenlights a day.

It's also just absolute and total garbage. Full of lies and whatnot. It's so bad that I kinda think it's a right-wing plot to make the left look bad.


That and they've throw up a paywall for "articles" where they comment on reports from other news agencies, it's a shiatshow on there.
 
2019-03-15 08:23:20 PM  

Mrtraveler01: gonegirl: This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.

Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.

Wasn't the Rocky Mountain News the more conservative one?


It was legitimately the worse of the two: the Denver sneer slogan used to be that the RMN's coverage is yesterday's news, today. But I'd say that its loss still has weakened newspaper coverage - if nothing else, the Post is dancing with compensating for its loss by the tone and view of its writing.
 
2019-03-15 08:24:47 PM  

gonegirl: Mrtraveler01: gonegirl: This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.

Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.

Wasn't the Rocky Mountain News the more conservative one?

It was legitimately the worse of the two: the Denver sneer slogan used to be that the RMN's coverage is yesterday's news, today. But I'd say that its loss still has weakened newspaper coverage - if nothing else, the Post is dancing with compensating for its loss by the tone and view of its writing.


I get better news on CPR/npr
 
2019-03-15 08:25:33 PM  

El_Dan: As a Colorado resident, my best guess for that vote is that Gardner figured he was farked in 2020 anyway and is angling for a conservative media or similar position.


So did Trump in 2016.
That didn't turn out so well for the rest of us.
;^(
 
2019-03-15 08:25:56 PM  

gonegirl: Mrtraveler01: gonegirl: This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.

Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.

Wasn't the Rocky Mountain News the more conservative one?

It was legitimately the worse of the two: the Denver sneer slogan used to be that the RMN's coverage is yesterday's news, today. But I'd say that its loss still has weakened newspaper coverage - if nothing else, the Post is dancing with compensating for its loss by the tone and view of its writing.


As a non-Denver resident, I'm on the outside looking in here, but it sounds like at least part of the problem is that, as much as the RMN may have sucked, they were still competition, and the Denver Post still had to suck slightly less. Now the Post doesn't even have that bar to clear and they're free to suck almost as hard as they want.
 
2019-03-15 08:30:39 PM  
Gee I can't imagine why the hedge-fund-owned Denver Post endorsed him in the first place.

/it's almost as if moneyed interests have gone virtually unchecked for a handful of decades
 
2019-03-15 08:37:02 PM  

gonegirl: Mrtraveler01: gonegirl: This Face Left Blank: Judging by their original endorsement of Senator Gardner, and their standing by him through his vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act, I'd say the Denver Post sucks balls almost as much as the senator.

Denver is another city that's suffered from the loss of competing newspapers: it used to have the Rocky Mountain News to provide genuinely different viewpoints. Now, there's just the Post, and it has some issues with balance.

Wasn't the Rocky Mountain News the more conservative one?

It was legitimately the worse of the two: the Denver sneer slogan used to be that the RMN's coverage is yesterday's news, today. But I'd say that its loss still has weakened newspaper coverage - if nothing else, the Post is dancing with compensating for its loss by the tone and view of its writing.


I always kind thought there were 2 stories that did the RMN in.

Jon Bonet Ramsey
and
The Rocky Flats clean up fiasco.

They just published stories about both without statements from officials and sorta winged it. IIRC, they often took the side of JBR's dad without hesitation, but showed skepticism when police, the DA (and I can't remember his name right now), and investigators would speak to them.

Yeah, both papers kept each other sorta honest, but RMN was never what I would consider "quality" journalism. And the Post just barely makes it into that category these days.

They (the Post) have their moments though. When the nuts were trying to take over the Douglas County Public School Board, they were all over that one. One woman, in particular, was threatening them daily with lawsuits for what they would print about her, but they always brought the goods. Kids were walking out of school, parents were joining in, etc. And she always wanted to lie about what was happening. IIRC a few of them got busted for diverting funds.
 
2019-03-15 08:39:32 PM  
FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.
 
2019-03-15 08:40:48 PM  

JerryHeisenberg: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Stop linking sites that stop people  from reading linked articles.

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Exactly. Usually on sites like this if I click Reader View fast enough I can read the article, but no luck here, it only gives me the first paragraph.
 
2019-03-15 08:41:56 PM  

Badmoodman: Donnie is -15pts. in approval in Colorado. In November, every single statewide GOP candidate on the ballot lost. Is Gardner insane or stupid? He's dead meat next year.


When the US govt starts combatting pro-Republican Russian propaganda, will the pubs say this is a violation of Russia's free speech and that countries are people too?

Or is that already part of a Supreme Court decision that hasn't been tested yet?

Or will the pubs just play the red to have law enforcement look the other way?
 
2019-03-15 08:42:12 PM  
*ref
 
2019-03-15 08:44:32 PM  

fernt: FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.


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2019-03-15 08:45:11 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: fernt: FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.

[img.fark.net image 850x367]


RINO!!!
 
2019-03-15 08:50:17 PM  

UNC_Samurai: We endorsed Sen. Cory Gardner in 2014 because we believed he'd be a statesman.

If you believed any Republican would demonstrate statesmanship, that's on your dumb ass.



Further proof that the editorial team of this newspaper is made up of dumb asses:
"This is a bogus emergency that takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama."
 
2019-03-15 08:52:49 PM  

fernt: FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.


One that Trump has removed. Also, the point of the temporary solution was to give Congress time to work out immigration reform... something that over a decade later the GOP still haven't figured out. So apparently DACA has proved something, much like the PPACA... they don't have a farking clue how to work it out themselves, or don't care.

Now go ahead and tell the class how a National Emergency for building a wall that the GOP couldn't pass a bill for in 2 years while they controlled everything during a record low of pretty much every metric on the southern border... isn't overreach. Otherwise, what the fark was the point of your post?
 
2019-03-15 09:03:24 PM  

El_Dan: As a Colorado resident, my best guess for that vote is that Gardner figured he was farked in 2020 anyway and is angling for a conservative media or similar position.


Yea he's totally angling for a lobbying job. Hopefully he chokes on it.
 
2019-03-15 09:11:25 PM  

Badmoodman: Donnie is -15pts. in approval in Colorado. In November, every single statewide GOP candidate on the ballot lost. Is Gardner insane or stupid? He's dead meat next year.


Neither, really. Given the choice, almost everyone will opt to guarantee a primary win and hope to luck out in the general.
 
2019-03-15 09:14:15 PM  

jake_lex: From TFA:

"This is a bogus emergency that takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama."

[imgs.xkcd.com image 500x271]

Gonna need an example of Obama's "overreach" here, Chief.


Both sides are exactly equally as bad. Now, do you want me to tell you who you should vote for?

Basically picture the "b b but if we're just nice enough to them, our inherent niceness will osmotically diffuse into the GOPers and they're start being nice to us" of the old Democratic party, and turn it up to 11: "b b but if we just bend over backwards in 7 separate dimensions to always say the Democrats are bad, maybe the GOPers will stop calling for the elimination of all news that isn't Der Sturmer and for liberals to be put in concentration camps!
 
2019-03-15 09:14:28 PM  

quiotu: One that Trump has removed. Also, the point of the temporary solution was to give Congress time to work out immigration reform... something that over a decade later the GOP still haven't figured out. So apparently DACA has proved something, much like the PPACA... they don't have a farking clue how to work it out themselves, or don't care.


"Democrat/RINO obstruction!"
 
2019-03-15 09:50:59 PM  
If you remember, the guy he defeated in 2014 was Mark Udall, who was making at least something of a stand about warrantless wiretapping
 
2019-03-15 10:02:38 PM  
I was surprised to see Gardner vote no given the fact that he's a bright red Republican in a deeply purple state that voted bright blue in 2018, and he's up for election in 2020, which looks like a potential bloodbath for anyone closely associated with Trump in places like Colorado. His support for the state's marijuana policies is not going to be nearly enough to get him off the hook. I, for one, cannot farking wait to help make him a one-term Senator and get the country started on waking up from this nightmare.
 
2019-03-15 10:04:08 PM  

Lamberts Ho Man: If you remember, the guy he defeated in 2014 was Mark Udall, who was making at least something of a stand about warrantless wiretapping


You are correct.

I always wished that when I lived in Breckenridge that Summit County would get gobbled up into the 2nd district so I could vote for Udall. Alas, that didn't happen until I left the state.

Udall is a good man.
 
2019-03-15 10:19:41 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: I was surprised to see Gardner vote no given the fact that he's a bright red Republican in a deeply purple state that voted bright blue in 2018, and he's up for election in 2020, which looks like a potential bloodbath for anyone closely associated with Trump in places like Colorado. His support for the state's marijuana policies is not going to be nearly enough to get him off the hook. I, for one, cannot farking wait to help make him a one-term Senator and get the country started on waking up from this nightmare.


Only 1 or 2 of the republicans I think could be in danger in 2020 voted against the declaration. Collins. I guess you could throw Murkowski in there, but I think she is pretty safe.

Ernst, Gardner, Tillis are for sure in danger. Out of them, only Tillis is likely to see reward at the booth for his vote. This will kill Ernst I think. Ag in Iowa employs a lot of migrants. Legal and illegal. That bullshiat you hear Steve King spew only works in his district. And barely there anymore.

The ones that surprised me were Blunt and Rubio voting against the declaration. Rubio may have done it to give the impression in Florida that he is inclusive. Or maybe as a fark you to Trump. I just don't know. Neither of them are up next year so it's a head scratcher.
 
2019-03-16 02:38:29 AM  
I wrote to Senator Gardner and asked him to not vote to repeal Obamacar (ACA) because it was important to keep healthcare available.

He voted to nuke it.

fark him.
 
2019-03-16 04:26:24 AM  
Cory Gardner will be the Dean Heller of the 2020 election cycle.

Forecasters will say it's a tossup and then he will go on to lose by ~5 points or so.
 
2019-03-16 09:16:48 AM  

UNC_Samurai: We endorsed Sen. Cory Gardner in 2014 because we believed he'd be a statesman.

If you believed any Republican would demonstrate statesmanship, that's on your dumb ass.


I thought a statesman was a dead politician.  By  that definition, I would like to see as many Republican statesmen as possible.
 
2019-03-16 09:19:03 AM  

El_Dan: As a Colorado resident, my best guess for that vote is that Gardner figured he was farked in 2020 anyway and is angling for a conservative media or similar position.


The Republican Welfare System
 
2019-03-16 09:48:54 AM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: fernt: FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.

[img.fark.net image 850x367]


The Democrats promised border security in exchange for amnesty for millions. The millions got their amnesty, but the Democrats blocked the border security. They reneged on the deal. Other than that, great example of why Trump shouldn't deal with the Democrats on border security.
 
2019-03-16 09:50:07 AM  

quiotu: fernt: FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.

One that Trump has removed. Also, the point of the temporary solution was to give Congress time to work out immigration reform... something that over a decade later the GOP still haven't figured out. So apparently DACA has proved something, much like the PPACA... they don't have a farking clue how to work it out themselves, or don't care.

Now go ahead and tell the class how a National Emergency for building a wall that the GOP couldn't pass a bill for in 2 years while they controlled everything during a record low of pretty much every metric on the southern border... isn't overreach. Otherwise, what the fark was the point of your post?


That Trump's emergency declaration isn't over-reach and perfectly constitutional under the circumstances.
 
2019-03-16 10:32:06 AM  

Boo_Guy: Dafatone: Farkin_Crazy: Massively Multiplayer Addict: Stop linking sites that stop people  from reading linked articles.

I refuse to click on Rawstory links anymore. I swear that farkin' place is full of malware. And I am not the only one who has complained about it, but it still gets 2-3 greenlights a day.

It's also just absolute and total garbage. Full of lies and whatnot. It's so bad that I kinda think it's a right-wing plot to make the left look bad.

That and they've throw up a paywall for "articles" where they comment on reports from other news agencies, it's a shiatshow on there.


I thought the only reason we got RawStory links in the first place is because they posted stuff from like WSJ that was behind paywalls, but now that they are paywalling, WTF are we still getting links to them?
 
2019-03-16 10:35:47 AM  

fernt: Ow! That was my feelings!: fernt: FTFA:

"takes executive over-reach to an extreme not seen even under President Barack Obama"

That's rich, seeing as how DACA is a textbook extreme over-reach.

[img.fark.net image 850x367]

The Democrats promised border security in exchange for amnesty for millions. The millions got their amnesty, but the Democrats blocked the border security. They reneged on the deal. Other than that, great example of why Trump shouldn't deal with the Democrats on border security.


So the Dems should act more like Trump next time?
 
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