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(Mercury News)   Lori Loughlin's daughters get the hell out of college town, quit USC amid admissions scandal   (mercurynews.com) divider line
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2019-03-15 08:35:12 AM  
Right. They withdrew because of the "fear" of bullying, not because of any actual bullying. And certainly not because they're lying, attention whoring assholes who never deserved to be there in the first place.
 
2019-03-15 08:59:04 AM  
Setting aside any emotional response, this is a pretty realistic fear.  Judging by the responses they've already received on their Instagrams, they're going to take some heat from fellow students and strangers, some of which will rise to "bullying" behavior. If they had nothing to do with it, then I feel bad for them.  But if they did participate or were aware of their mom's activities, does it still count as bullying?
 
2019-03-15 09:12:08 AM  
They can now look forward to their new career in porn.
 
2019-03-15 09:12:47 AM  
I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.
 
2019-03-15 09:34:38 AM  

croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.


They posed on a rowing machine pretending to be crew rowers.
 
2019-03-15 09:35:15 AM  

RexTalionis: croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.

They posed on a rowing machine pretending to be crew rowers.


Okay, yeah.

Git gone.
 
2019-03-15 09:58:05 AM  
Just sayin', twenty bucks and an Archie comic book will let them sneak into Arizona State.
 
2019-03-15 10:03:02 AM  
And the pivot to victimhood begins...
 
2019-03-15 10:05:38 AM  
Oh shiat!, We're going to have to study now, let's get out of here.
 
2019-03-15 10:07:31 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: They can now look forward to their new career in porn.


We can dare to dream.
 
2019-03-15 10:07:48 AM  
You can't kick me out, I quit!
 
2019-03-15 10:09:13 AM  
Is it illegal to accept bribes as well?  can the colleges get in trouble?
 
2019-03-15 10:10:46 AM  

You Are All Sheep: Is it illegal to accept bribes as well?  can the colleges get in trouble?


The way I read it the colleges are victims of fraud. Individual coaches and employees were getting the bribes and fudging paperwork.
 
2019-03-15 10:11:34 AM  
Wow, what happened? This is the first I've heard of this story.
 
2019-03-15 10:12:54 AM  

croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.


Generally I agree. However, in this case the parents took this action on the belief it would benefit their children. If the all the children who were admitted fraudulently get kicked out, whether they knowingly participated in the fraud, then hopefully in the future parents will think twice when contemplating taking this course of action.
 
2019-03-15 10:13:08 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: You Are All Sheep: Is it illegal to accept bribes as well?  can the colleges get in trouble?

The way I read it the colleges are victims of fraud. Individual coaches and employees were getting the bribes and fudging paperwork.


This is basically the case. I've worked for a major University and it's easy to see how it happened. Each department is very much its own entity, so it'd be pretty easy to hide fraud in admissions from the administration.
 
2019-03-15 10:14:05 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Wow, what happened? This is the first I've heard of this story.


I know, right?  Is it too much to ask the mods to greenlight a thread or two about this?
 
2019-03-15 10:16:05 AM  

flamark: croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.

Generally I agree. However, in this case the parents took this action on the belief it would benefit their children. If the all the children who were admitted fraudulently get kicked out, whether they knowingly participated in the fraud, then hopefully in the future parents will think twice when contemplating taking this course of action.


True. I would hope they would at least have to re-enroll and go through the admissions process again, if they in fact had no involvement or knowledge.
 
2019-03-15 10:16:45 AM  

Wadded Beef: Just sayin', twenty bucks and an Archie comic book will let them sneak into Arizona State.


Mint condition, or "gently used"?

Same question for the comic book.
 
2019-03-15 10:17:28 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: They can now look forward to their new career in porn.


I know I am.
 
2019-03-15 10:18:01 AM  

Wadded Beef: Just sayin', twenty bucks and an Archie comic book will let them sneak into Arizona State.


Northern Arizona university, Arizona State demands at least 100 bucks, a budweiBud party ball, wrap around Oakley's and some GHB.
 
2019-03-15 10:18:52 AM  
Trojan Whores
 
2019-03-15 10:19:16 AM  
Are we going to look at sports scholarships next? If not then i really don't give a shiat about this story.
 
2019-03-15 10:22:30 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: The way I read it the colleges are victims of fraud.


I think they'll have a hard time proving damages.
 
2019-03-15 10:23:42 AM  

flamark: croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.

Generally I agree. However, in this case the parents took this action on the belief it would benefit their children. If the all the children who were admitted fraudulently get kicked out, whether they knowingly participated in the fraud, then hopefully in the future parents will think twice when contemplating taking this course of action.


The younger of the two never wanted to go to college in the first place, and thinks she is gainfully employed (and, to be fair, she probably is doing quite well). Whether those contracts will disappear is another matter.
 
2019-03-15 10:23:47 AM  

phimuskapsi: This is basically the case. I've worked for a major University and it's easy to see how it happened. Each department is very much its own entity, so it'd be pretty easy to hide fraud in admissions from the administration.


So the system is working as designed. The people who are paid to be in charge are never held responsible.
 
2019-03-15 10:26:44 AM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Wow, what happened? This is the first I've heard of this story.


Parents are being persecuted for following time honored traditions when their kids apply for college. It's really a shame. If your kid can't get into an ivy league school there are always other options
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2019-03-15 10:28:20 AM  
It's good to know we still punish the children for the sins of the parents.

#notsowokeafterall
 
2019-03-15 10:35:17 AM  

luidprand: flamark: croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.

Generally I agree. However, in this case the parents took this action on the belief it would benefit their children. If the all the children who were admitted fraudulently get kicked out, whether they knowingly participated in the fraud, then hopefully in the future parents will think twice when contemplating taking this course of action.

The younger of the two never wanted to go to college in the first place, and thinks she is gainfully employed (and, to be fair, she probably is doing quite well). Whether those contracts will disappear is another matter.


According to the article, they have and that makes me happy.
 
2019-03-15 10:35:48 AM  

Trik: It's good to know we still punish the children for the sins of the parents.

#notsowokeafterall


We generally only care about what happens to  young white girls when they're missing. Otherwise, fark 'em.
 
2019-03-15 10:36:22 AM  
"USC officials would likely have tried to determine whether Isabella and Olivia Jade were complicit in their parents' alleged  bribery."

Kids posed for fake pictures in their case,  knowingly participated in the fraud, were over 18, even were called out by high school guidance counselor, they should be arrested also,

USC shockingly has not kicked out the social media stars which were good for recruitment,

Olivia had interview about her father:
"He didn't come from a lot so it's cool to see that he built it all himself," she said. "He, like, built his whole entire brand and he wasn't actually, like, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this, ever enrolled in college. But he, like, faked his way through it and then he started his whole business with tuition money that his parents thought was going to college. That's, like, such a different time. I don't know if I was supposed to say that, but it's okay."

Read that in a clueless voice and try not to cringe
 
2019-03-15 10:37:27 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: We can dare to wet dream.


/ftfy
 
2019-03-15 10:40:30 AM  

Magruda: Are we going to look at sports scholarships next? If not then i really don't give a shiat about this story.


This IS a sports scholarship story. The celebrity in question paid for her daughters to be designated as crew (rowing) recruits when they had no athletic experience whatsoever.

The Athletic Director of USC was fired the day this story broke, as well as the coaches of individual sports.
 
2019-03-15 10:41:26 AM  
Honestly, I think their punishment should be to suspend them pending a review of their status which amounts to the same process as ordinary applications, as of the time they applied to the school. If they pass the review, they can stay; if not, they're expelled.

This is not an attempt at being soft on them. Quite the opposite: I don't think they have any realistic chance of passing. But they did all this to avoid fair judgment and the possibility of rejection by society, which makes those two things an ideal punishment.
 
2019-03-15 10:41:47 AM  

CommonName2: phimuskapsi: This is basically the case. I've worked for a major University and it's easy to see how it happened. Each department is very much its own entity, so it'd be pretty easy to hide fraud in admissions from the administration.

So the system is working as designed. The people who are paid to be in charge are never held responsible.


The people who are paid to be in charge, e.g. the President of a University, are usually there because they are amazing fundraisers and socialites, and nothing more.
 
2019-03-15 10:46:45 AM  
"Instead, Isabella and Olivia Jade Giannulli won't return to USC because they fear they will be bullied, sources connected to both daughters told TMZ."

I'm sure Onion Jiffy or whatever her name is (yes, I'm bullying) will be able to make this part of her "Instacrap Influenza" narrative.
 
2019-03-15 10:49:00 AM  

ElectricPeterTork: We generally only care about what happens to  young white girls when they're missing. Otherwise, fark 'em.


What else are they good for?
 
2019-03-15 10:49:25 AM  

luidprand: flamark: croesius: I don't believe in punishing children for the sins of their parents, but if they took part in the scheme, it's probably wise to vacate the locale.

Generally I agree. However, in this case the parents took this action on the belief it would benefit their children. If the all the children who were admitted fraudulently get kicked out, whether they knowingly participated in the fraud, then hopefully in the future parents will think twice when contemplating taking this course of action.

The younger of the two never wanted to go to college in the first place, and thinks she is gainfully employed (and, to be fair, she probably is doing quite well). Whether those contracts will disappear is another matter.


Beyond losing sponsors, what can the child of a lower level celebrity really expect is the half life of an instagram influencer? An education would probably be good long term planning... or just inheriting parents' money, I suppose.
 
2019-03-15 10:56:01 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: You Are All Sheep: Is it illegal to accept bribes as well?  can the colleges get in trouble?

The way I read it the colleges are victims of fraud. Individual coaches and employees were getting the bribes and fudging paperwork.


This college, a collection of smart people I suppose, sure got fooled easily.  I wonder if they really look at the applications of rich or famous people all that closely.  I wonder if there is some gain for the college as a whole if a person with a famous mom and dad and has a large on-line presence were enrolled in their college and let a bunch of people know it.
 
2019-03-15 10:58:17 AM  
Did Amazon pay for their moving truck?
 
2019-03-15 11:03:29 AM  
Getting ktfo for cheating is bullying now.  Got it
 
2019-03-15 11:05:07 AM  
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USC scandal you say?
 
2019-03-15 11:07:24 AM  

The Slush: Getting ktfo for cheating is bullying now.  Got it


Why are you being so politically correct?

Let people say what they want to say.
 
2019-03-15 11:08:31 AM  
So will Hallmark do a movie based on a young mothers desire to do whatever it takes to get her innocent and much deserving snowflake into a good college...if so, who can they call to play Lori Loughlin?
 
2019-03-15 11:10:18 AM  

The Slush: Getting ktfo for cheating is bullying now.  Got it


They weren't kicked out.
They left because of bullying.
 
2019-03-15 11:10:30 AM  

Atomic Jonb: HotWingConspiracy: You Are All Sheep: Is it illegal to accept bribes as well?  can the colleges get in trouble?

The way I read it the colleges are victims of fraud. Individual coaches and employees were getting the bribes and fudging paperwork.

This college, a collection of smart people I suppose, sure got fooled easily.


Happens every day. Smart people can be pretty stupid.

I wonder if they really look at the applications of rich or famous people all that closely.

I would assume so, considering that the applications had to be put together by a team of scam artists and placed in front of bribed individuals to get them through.

I wonder if there is some gain for the college as a whole if a person with a famous mom and dad and has a large on-line presence were enrolled in their college and let a bunch of people know it.

I feel like that kind of exchange is more direct. The parents could have went straight to the school and started spreading cash around via donations or whatever instead of working with a scummy broker. It would have just cost them more.
 
2019-03-15 11:10:48 AM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: So will Hallmark Vivid Entertainment do a movie based on a young mothers desire to do whatever it takes to get her innocent and much deserving snowflake into a good college...if so, who can they call to play Lori Loughlin?

 
2019-03-15 11:15:40 AM  

Eddie Hazel's E string: Magruda: Are we going to look at sports scholarships next? If not then i really don't give a shiat about this story.

This IS a sports scholarship story. The celebrity in question paid for her daughters to be designated as crew (rowing) recruits when they had no athletic experience whatsoever.

The Athletic Director of USC was fired the day this story broke, as well as the coaches of individual sports.


I just have an issue with dumb jocks taking up seats in classes they are not qualified for. Whether they committed fraud to get there is irrelevant.
 
2019-03-15 11:16:02 AM  

Millennium: Honestly, I think their punishment should be to suspend them pending a review of their status which amounts to the same process as ordinary applications, as of the time they applied to the school. If they pass the review, they can stay; if not, they're expelled.

This is not an attempt at being soft on them. Quite the opposite: I don't think they have any realistic chance of passing. But they did all this to avoid fair judgment and the possibility of rejection by society, which makes those two things an ideal punishment.


Even if they were oblivious to the fact the letters welcoming them to the Crew team and training schedules, etc, allowing them to continue would be the equivalent to allowing the person who purchased a stolen Lambo for $500 from a car thief to keep it as long as he hadn't gotten a speeding ticket.
 
2019-03-15 11:16:22 AM  
That would suck for the kids if they didn't know that their parents were doing any of this.  It's a hell of a public comeuppance for something you (theoretically) didn't do anything wrong for.

Thankfully for my bleeding heart, it's more likely that they did know about it so fark them.
 
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