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(Amazon)   Subby has a book coming out. Give a little love. I need to prepare for when my son inevitably still lives at home at 30. Also, I hate my job. It's urban fantasy mixed with science fiction (the book, not my job)   (amazon.com) divider line
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2019-03-14 06:22:57 PM  
It sounds good, good luck!
 
2019-03-14 06:57:18 PM  
interesting! you had me right up until 'Florida' then I shrugged and thought; that's certainly just as interesting a place as any and probably more so because it's Florida.

/what darkhorse23 said
 
2019-03-14 07:00:29 PM  
I just put it on my wishlist and I'll check it out! Hope it goes very well for ya, subby... they say always follow your dreams and never give up!
 
2019-03-14 07:41:53 PM  
I'm not your accountant or business manager, but $7.99 exceeds my price point for a 200 page self published first offering.

I spend about $200 a month on fantasy books from Amazon, I've pretty much finished all the obvious/recommended books, and often have to wade through piles of   I've also been burned a bit too often by self published books.  A low page count has been a fairly consistent red flag for me.  Too often indicative of either rush to publishing, or lack of enough creative plot content.  At best it's pretty good, and I have to wait to spend another $8 for another half of a book.

I don't want to dissuade anyone else from spending their money as they see fit, maybe I'm just too poor and haven't accounted for rising prices over the decades.
 
2019-03-14 07:44:38 PM  
According to your twit profile you are a 'stay at home dad' that writes. Why should anyone buy your book if you hate writing?
 
2019-03-14 08:02:35 PM  
Cool, good luck.
 
2019-03-14 08:22:15 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm not your accountant or business manager, but $7.99 exceeds my price point for a 200 page self published first offering.

I spend about $200 a month on fantasy books from Amazon, I've pretty much finished all the obvious/recommended books, and often have to wade through piles of   I've also been burned a bit too often by self published books.  A low page count has been a fairly consistent red flag for me.  Too often indicative of either rush to publishing, or lack of enough creative plot content.  At best it's pretty good, and I have to wait to spend another $8 for another half of a book.

I don't want to dissuade anyone else from spending their money as they see fit, maybe I'm just too poor and haven't accounted for rising prices over the decades.


Subby here. In print it's actually 278 in trade paperback (6x9 with slim outer margins). The link is for the ebook, which seems to calculate differently. It's also my second book, though the first was several years ago.
 
2019-03-14 08:23:14 PM  

bratface: According to your twit profile you are a 'stay at home dad' that writes. Why should anyone buy your book if you hate writing?


I work from home doing another job.
 
2019-03-14 08:25:21 PM  

bratface: According to your twit profile you are a 'stay at home dad' that writes. Why should anyone buy your book if you hate writing?


That is ridiculously tedious and mind-numbing. At least I'm not still in the office, I guess, which was a different kind of pain.
 
2019-03-14 09:13:15 PM  
We'll see, after the 'look inside' is available. Most self published works are complete nightmares. Sure you get the occasional jewel like The Martian but in the majority of the cases it's bad.  And as somebody said above the price point is a bad sign.
 
2019-03-14 09:20:28 PM  

Bob Falfa: Cool, good luck.


what he said.
 
2019-03-14 10:56:18 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I'm not your accountant or business manager, but $7.99 exceeds my price point for a 200 page self published first offering.

I spend about $200 a month on fantasy books from Amazon, I've pretty much finished all the obvious/recommended books, and often have to wade through piles of   I've also been burned a bit too often by self published books.  A low page count has been a fairly consistent red flag for me.  Too often indicative of either rush to publishing, or lack of enough creative plot content.  At best it's pretty good, and I have to wait to spend another $8 for another half of a book.

I don't want to dissuade anyone else from spending their money as they see fit, maybe I'm just too poor and haven't accounted for rising prices over the decades.


As to your other points, it's a fully fleshed out book. My writing style, however, is light on setting details and environment, which doesn't lend itself to long books. As to the price point, I had meant to lower that and have done so (5.99). The book itself was finished in 2012. I've been editing since then, though not continously as life, a move to Ohio, and a surprise kid kind of got thrown into the mix. I promise, this was not rushed in any way. However, if you want to avoid being burned, which I understand, I'm doing a Goodreads giveaway that begins on Sunday. Feel free to enter.
 
2019-03-15 12:56:27 AM  
It doesn't look like the genre I'd usually read, but for 5.99, I'll give it a shot.

I wanted to be a writer looking ago, but didn't have the guts.

Good luck.
 
2019-03-15 03:13:22 AM  
Picked it up on preorder. You should offer autographed and personalized copies :) Some of those collect signed 1st editions.
 
2019-03-15 07:19:25 AM  

greatgodyoshi: The book itself was finished in 2012. I've been editing since then


And it's book 1 of a series.

Is this you George R R?
 
2019-03-15 08:12:50 AM  

Noah_Tall: greatgodyoshi: The book itself was finished in 2012. I've been editing since then

And it's book 1 of a series.

Is this you George R R?


Ha! Trust me, I know. When I write, I write quickly. My time has recently been limited by a now almost 4-year old. He'll be going to pre-school soon, so I'll get that time back. The next one won't be so long in coming (though I will be working at the same time on a separate stand-alone story). Also, unlike Martin, I know where this is going.
 
2019-03-15 09:32:28 AM  

greatgodyoshi: Noah_Tall: greatgodyoshi: The book itself was finished in 2012. I've been editing since then

And it's book 1 of a series.

Is this you George R R?

Ha! Trust me, I know. When I write, I write quickly. My time has recently been limited by a now almost 4-year old. He'll be going to pre-school soon, so I'll get that time back. The next one won't be so long in coming (though I will be working at the same time on a separate stand-alone story). Also, unlike Martin, I know where this is going.


So, is this REALLY a preorder with a date, or is this a Martin release date? :)

/JK
//happy Friday
///mmmm, books
 
2019-03-15 10:07:46 AM  

greatgodyoshi: Ker_Thwap: I'm not your accountant or business manager, but $7.99 exceeds my price point for a 200 page self published first offering.

I spend about $200 a month on fantasy books from Amazon, I've pretty much finished all the obvious/recommended books, and often have to wade through piles of   I've also been burned a bit too often by self published books.  A low page count has been a fairly consistent red flag for me.  Too often indicative of either rush to publishing, or lack of enough creative plot content.  At best it's pretty good, and I have to wait to spend another $8 for another half of a book.

I don't want to dissuade anyone else from spending their money as they see fit, maybe I'm just too poor and haven't accounted for rising prices over the decades.

As to your other points, it's a fully fleshed out book. My writing style, however, is light on setting details and environment, which doesn't lend itself to long books. As to the price point, I had meant to lower that and have done so (5.99). The book itself was finished in 2012. I've been editing since then, though not continously as life, a move to Ohio, and a surprise kid kind of got thrown into the mix. I promise, this was not rushed in any way. However, if you want to avoid being burned, which I understand, I'm doing a Goodreads giveaway that begins on Sunday. Feel free to enter.


I put it on my wish list.  Like Noah_Tail said, I'll peek at the "Look Inside" before buying.  Nothing personal, but all too often with self published books, I feel like I've paid for the job of being the an editor, or worse the front line guy at a publishing house who has to wade through all the crap submissions.

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head? Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot?  Are the characters charismatic?  Can you make me care about them?  Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any kind of consistency.  Do all your characters think with the same brain?

No, I'm not asking you to answer these things, but these are just a tiny fraction of the ugly writing I've seen lately with self published, self edited books.  I'm always appreciative of the effort the author has put in, there are some amazing idea that are just poorly executed.  I'm just a bit tired of being that front line guy in a publishing house, and I certainly don't mean to take that out on you.
 
2019-03-15 11:00:15 AM  

Ker_Thwap: I put it on my wish list.  Like Noah_Tail said, I'll peek at the "Look Inside" before buying.  Nothing personal, but all too often with self published books, I feel like I've paid for the job of being the an editor, or worse the front line guy at a publishing house who has to wade through all the crap submissions.

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head? Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot?  Are the characters charismatic?  Can you make me care about them?  Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any ...


Thanks, and I entirely understand. I feel like I've run into that with some house published books as well recently. Honestly, I think of myself as a better editor than a writer. Idea development is really what I'm best at. However, I'll go ahead and answer your questions:

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head?No. I also hate this and only tell what's necessary. Beyond that I tend to "show" more. At least, I think I do. You tell me. :P

Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot? No. I hate this as well. I try my best to have them act consistently. However, with character development comes some change, so I can't promise they will always act the same down the line as they previously have.

Are the characters charismatic? I like to think so, except for one. He's not really supposed to be except when he wants something. He's kind of an amoral character.

Can you make me care about them? I really hope so. Or at least care about the story enough to see where it's going.

Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any kind of consistency? Yes, but if there's any confusion please let me know and I'll fix it in the future.

Do all your characters think with the same brain? Definitely not.

Tell you what. If you're really interested but too wary, and don't enter or win the Goodreads contest, I've got some paperback proofs that are just going to be sitting around. I'll send you one and you can decide for free. If so, all I ask in return is a review, good or bad. Just let me know.
 
2019-03-15 11:15:24 AM  

greatgodyoshi: Ker_Thwap: I put it on my wish list.  Like Noah_Tail said, I'll peek at the "Look Inside" before buying.  Nothing personal, but all too often with self published books, I feel like I've paid for the job of being the an editor, or worse the front line guy at a publishing house who has to wade through all the crap submissions.

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head? Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot?  Are the characters charismatic?  Can you make me care about them?  Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any ...

Thanks, and I entirely understand. I feel like I've run into that with some house published books as well recently. Honestly, I think of myself as a better editor than a writer. Idea development is really what I'm best at. However, I'll go ahead and answer your questions:

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head?No. I also hate this and only tell what's necessary. Beyond that I tend to "show" more. At least, I think I do. You tell me. :P

Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot? No. I hate this as well. I try my best to have them act consistently. However, with character development comes some change, so I can't promise they will always act the same down the line as they previously have.

Are the characters charismatic? I like to think so, except for one. He's not really supposed to be except when he wants something. He's kind of an amoral character.

Can you make me care about them? I really hope so. Or at least care about the story enough to see where it's going.

Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any kind of consistency? Yes, but if there's any confusion please let me know and I'll fix it in the future.

Do all your characters think with the same brain? Definitely not.

Tell you what. If you're really interested but too wary, and don't enter or win the Goodreads contest, I've got some paperback proofs that are just going to be sitting around. I'll send you one and you can decide for free. If so, all I ask in return is a review, good or bad. Just let me know.


Well as long as you are answering questions please tell me that it isn't first or second person present. That is the writing style used by all the worst self published authors.

"I open the door and look into the room but nobody is there. I see a bookcase on the wall directly across from me."

Or worse.

"You squint your eyes as you try to read some of the book titles. You take two steps forward into the room to get a better look."
 
2019-03-15 11:52:15 AM  

Noah_Tall: greatgodyoshi: Ker_Thwap: I put it on my wish list.  Like Noah_Tail said, I'll peek at the "Look Inside" before buying.  Nothing personal, but all too often with self published books, I feel like I've paid for the job of being the an editor, or worse the front line guy at a publishing house who has to wade through all the crap submissions.

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head? Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot?  Are the characters charismatic?  Can you make me care about them?  Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any ...

Thanks, and I entirely understand. I feel like I've run into that with some house published books as well recently. Honestly, I think of myself as a better editor than a writer. Idea development is really what I'm best at. However, I'll go ahead and answer your questions:

Are you an over-explainer who tells us every thought in the character's head?No. I also hate this and only tell what's necessary. Beyond that I tend to "show" more. At least, I think I do. You tell me. :P

Do your characters make stupid decisions out of their own character, just to drive the plot? No. I hate this as well. I try my best to have them act consistently. However, with character development comes some change, so I can't promise they will always act the same down the line as they previously have.

Are the characters charismatic? I like to think so, except for one. He's not really supposed to be except when he wants something. He's kind of an amoral character.

Can you make me care about them? I really hope so. Or at least care about the story enough to see where it's going.

Do you switch back and forth between character speech with any kind of consistency? Yes, but if there's any confusion please let me know and I'll fix it in the future.

Do all your characters think with the same brain? Definitely not.

Tell you what. If you're really interested b ...


Nope. Standard third person. I do have something that I've always envisioned as first person, but I find it difficult to do correctly. It's almost as if when writing first person you have to go with unreliable narrator, otherwise you give too much and the character either comes off as whiny or arrogant, even if they aren't either of those things. That project has been going on a while.
 
2019-03-15 11:58:13 AM  

Noah_Tall: Well as long as you are answering questions please tell me that it isn't first or second person present. That is the writing style used by all the worst self published authors.

"I open the door and look into the room but nobody is there. I see a bookcase on the wall directly across from me."

Or worse.

"You squint your eyes as you try to read some of the book titles. You take two steps forward into the room to get a better look."


I once started reading a book that nearly devolved into... Go room... you go into the room.  Search room... you search the room.  You notice a bump in the carpet.  You lift the carpet and find a key.  Look at key...it appears to be the size and shape to fit the blue box on the nightstand...

/Must not punch my Kindle... must not punch my Kindle...
 
2019-03-15 05:48:14 PM  
God life is unfair. Subby wants eight lousy bucks for a book, and people expect a freaking dissertation on why they should consider it first.

Meanwhile that asshole Kevin Trudeau can fill a book with total horseshiat, and sell them for triple that to any one of your grandparents.

hey, there are people in this world who pay 12 bucks for Danielle Steel. Why not take a gamble on eight bucks for a fellow Farker?
 
2019-03-15 08:29:44 PM  

Made of Gold Titanium Sulfur and Carbon: God life is unfair. Subby wants eight lousy bucks for a book, and people expect a freaking dissertation on why they should consider it first.

Meanwhile that asshole Kevin Trudeau can fill a book with total horseshiat, and sell them for triple that to any one of your grandparents.

hey, there are people in this world who pay 12 bucks for Danielle Steel. Why not take a gamble on eight bucks for a fellow Farker?


Because encouraging lack of experience just because the guy is 'one of us' is what resulted in the current government.
 
2019-03-16 04:17:56 AM  

Noah_Tall: Made of Gold Titanium Sulfur and Carbon: God life is unfair. Subby wants eight lousy bucks for a book, and people expect a freaking dissertation on why they should consider it first.

Meanwhile that asshole Kevin Trudeau can fill a book with total horseshiat, and sell them for triple that to any one of your grandparents.

hey, there are people in this world who pay 12 bucks for Danielle Steel. Why not take a gamble on eight bucks for a fellow Farker?

Because encouraging lack of experience just because the guy is 'one of us' is what resulted in the current government.


Well, if you only read books as often as you vote, it certainly explains how America got in this fix...I guess I'd be more choosey if I only bought one book every four years, too.

/You're going to sit there and tell me that Trump wouldn't be ten times better than he is, if he were an actual fark reader?
 
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