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(Washington Post)   In another example of science fiction turning into science fact, screw flying cars. How about a flying motorcycle? Pre-order is only $380,000. No problem. *grabs checkbook*   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2019-03-14 03:35:52 PM  
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2019-03-14 03:45:42 PM  
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2019-03-14 04:01:34 PM  

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2019-03-14 04:01:50 PM  
Wait...How am I supposed to afford that AND my college "deposit"?
 
2019-03-14 04:09:18 PM  
LOL.

Okay, so you'll need a private pilot license at the very least.  Airspace over most cities is pretty tight; the FAA might not like these buzzing around any large metro area.

How is it stabilized?  A sharp bank combined with an unfortunate wind and you're gonna auger in.

If I have that kind of scratch to throw around on a toy, I'll opt for one of these:  Cobalt Co50 Valkyrie.
 
2019-03-14 04:09:23 PM  
 
2019-03-14 04:09:32 PM  
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2019-03-14 04:10:45 PM  
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2019-03-14 04:12:09 PM  
Probability of this thing ever making it to market: 0.0000000001%

Probability of the $380,000 check I just wrote clearing: 0.0000000001%

I think we're good.
 
2019-03-14 04:13:11 PM  
I want their prospective buyers list for my deadpool.
 
2019-03-14 04:19:41 PM  

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I knew I wouldn't be first
 
2019-03-14 04:26:53 PM  

indy_kid: LOL.

Okay, so you'll need a private pilot license at the very least.  Airspace over most cities is pretty tight; the FAA might not like these buzzing around any large metro area.

How is it stabilized?  A sharp bank combined with an unfortunate wind and you're gonna auger in.

If I have that kind of scratch to throw around on a toy, I'll opt for one of these:  Cobalt Co50 Valkyrie.


How do I know you didn't read the entire article?

Unlike with conventional aircraft, the Federal Aviation Administration does not require a pilot's license to operate a "powered ultralight" craft. The agency's rules require instead that ultralights operate during daylight hours in open areas and limit their use to sport and recreation.
Like others developing similar craft, Mayman said the Speeder will be used for recreation and operated on personal property until rules and regulations begin to evolve. The craft can be operated autonomously or semiautonomously using a throttle and a joystick that will feel familiar to video game enthusiasts, he said
 
2019-03-14 04:28:04 PM  
Why we support anything that will pull over the youthful but rebellious James t Kirk
 
2019-03-14 04:30:28 PM  
380k? Suckers, I built my own for 50 bucks. It's a bit iffy on the flying part but it makes a mean martini.
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2019-03-14 04:31:57 PM  
Up yours Washington Post.  Go FARK yourselves.  Stop posting these!
 
2019-03-14 04:32:37 PM  

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2019-03-14 04:33:53 PM  
103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
 
2019-03-14 04:35:28 PM  
Yeah, I'll hold my pre-order until their demo reel isn't computer generated.
 
2019-03-14 04:37:40 PM  
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2019-03-14 05:17:33 PM  
Good news farkers:

a throttle and a joystick that will feel familiar to video game enthusiasts

Unfortunately most fakers are probably way, way, way over the weight limit.
 
2019-03-14 05:18:46 PM  
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2019-03-14 05:30:46 PM  
Hiro Protagonist eagerly awaits his delivery.
 
2019-03-14 05:37:14 PM  
Only the rich and extremely gullible need apply.
 
2019-03-14 05:53:37 PM  
I would love a flying motorcycle
 
2019-03-14 06:06:32 PM  
Ya kidding me?  I'd love to try one.
 
2019-03-14 06:57:03 PM  
It will make a great weapon for terrorists. #Kamikaze
 
2019-03-14 06:57:16 PM  
If we get them in real life, can we ban them in GTA5?

Please?

/What's the difference between an Opressor and a Deluxo?
//Depends on if you're compensating for small width or small girth.
 
2019-03-14 06:58:14 PM  

Made of Gold Titanium Sulfur and Carbon: If we get them in real life, can we ban them in GTA5?

Please?

/What's the difference between an Opressor and a Deluxo?
//Depends on if you're compensating for small width or small girth.


Small LENGTH

crap, I farked that up.

I'll see myself out.
 
2019-03-14 07:05:40 PM  
Ah, JetPack Aviation...the same folks who have the multi-jet-engine jetpack.

That demo reel's live-action, so this gives me hope that this "flying motorcycle" thing might actually work.

Then again, there was something similar put out several years ago, powered by Gluhareff pressure-jet engines, that was a build-it-yourself kit. I think it was called the "Space Ranger"...it was essentially a welded aluminum frame "basket", with four Gluhareff engines (one at each corner).

(AHA! I was right! It *was* called the "Space Ranger"! )

The old ad said it could attain an altitude of 5000 feet...that's plenty of empty space to build enough momentum to make a fairly deep hole if/when the engines crap out on you.

/I also had an idea to build something called the WASP II, powered by a single, modified, turbofan engine.
//if I'd have used a Gluhareff engine, instead of a turbofan engine, I'd have fried myself.
 
2019-03-14 07:07:27 PM  
*the jet pack's demo reel is live action...crap...farked that up...

...hey, Made of Gold Titanium Sulfur and Carbon...hold the door...
 
2019-03-14 07:23:35 PM  
they can only have shiattiest versions of guns, and you give them permission to own a flying bike thats more dangerous than any of them. . . wtf cali
 
2019-03-14 07:25:07 PM  
Well there's no way the FAA is going to license that bullshiat so basically this is just a scam.
 
2019-03-14 07:26:09 PM  
Long as I can fly it over Paul Moeller's house....
 
2019-03-14 07:30:58 PM  
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2019-03-14 07:33:10 PM  

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whats with the scuba gear, that design also looks more functional and easier to execute than the articles
 
2019-03-14 07:35:46 PM  

Any Pie Left: Long as I can fly it over Paul Moeller's house....


Anyone? Moeller? Moeller?
 
2019-03-14 08:19:56 PM  
If it doesn't run one some sort of anti-gravity technology it doesn't count.
 
2019-03-14 08:31:25 PM  

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whats with the scuba gear, that design also looks more functional and easier to execute than the articles


That was MASK.  I have no idea why, honestly, but they all had those masks that they put on when their "normal" vehicle turned into the awesome one.

/I loved that green motorcycle, and I think that was the only MASK toy I ever had
 
2019-03-14 08:50:42 PM  
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2019-03-14 09:30:44 PM  
Pricetag a tad steep.....
Ride looks like fun...
Me too old to..
 
2019-03-14 10:05:17 PM  

ChipNASA: indy_kid: LOL.

Okay, so you'll need a private pilot license at the very least.  Airspace over most cities is pretty tight; the FAA might not like these buzzing around any large metro area.

How is it stabilized?  A sharp bank combined with an unfortunate wind and you're gonna auger in.

If I have that kind of scratch to throw around on a toy, I'll opt for one of these:  Cobalt Co50 Valkyrie.

How do I know you didn't read the entire article?

Unlike with conventional aircraft, the Federal Aviation Administration does not require a pilot's license to operate a "powered ultralight" craft. The agency's rules require instead that ultralights operate during daylight hours in open areas and limit their use to sport and recreation.
Like others developing similar craft, Mayman said the Speeder will be used for recreation and operated on personal property until rules and regulations begin to evolve. The craft can be operated autonomously or semiautonomously using a throttle and a joystick that will feel familiar to video game enthusiasts, he said


Yeah, was gonna say basically the same thing without even reading TFA.

It's obviously an ultralight.  You need a driver's license.  The same one you need to drive a car.

There are more conventional ultralight helicopters too.


Mosquito XEL Helicopter Flight @ KCOI - 18Jul12!
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You're probably already licensed.  (Do not attempt to fly without adequate training.)

/If I ever win the lottery, I'm buying the flying bike.
//I know enough math to not play, so I'll never win.  Wouldn't win anyway, but....
///Still, would totally get the flying bike.  And a pilot's license.  And a small jet.
////But yeah, stay the fark out of controlled airspace with an ultralight and you're good, unless you crash and die, which you might because they're nowhere close to as safe as commercial flight (or driving a car), though still safer than being an astronaut.
//I've had a friend die in an ultralight.  Wouldn't stop me from flying one anyway.
 
2019-03-14 10:46:59 PM  

DarkVader: ChipNASA: indy_kid: LOL.

Okay, so you'll need a private pilot license at the very least.  Airspace over most cities is pretty tight; the FAA might not like these buzzing around any large metro area.

How is it stabilized?  A sharp bank combined with an unfortunate wind and you're gonna auger in.

If I have that kind of scratch to throw around on a toy, I'll opt for one of these:  Cobalt Co50 Valkyrie.

How do I know you didn't read the entire article?

Unlike with conventional aircraft, the Federal Aviation Administration does not require a pilot's license to operate a "powered ultralight" craft. The agency's rules require instead that ultralights operate during daylight hours in open areas and limit their use to sport and recreation.
Like others developing similar craft, Mayman said the Speeder will be used for recreation and operated on personal property until rules and regulations begin to evolve. The craft can be operated autonomously or semiautonomously using a throttle and a joystick that will feel familiar to video game enthusiasts, he said

Yeah, was gonna say basically the same thing without even reading TFA.

It's obviously an ultralight.  You need a driver's license.  The same one you need to drive a car.

There are more conventional ultralight helicopters too.


[YouTube video: Mosquito XEL Helicopter Flight @ KCOI - 18Jul12!]

You're probably already licensed.  (Do not attempt to fly without adequate training.)

/If I ever win the lottery, I'm buying the flying bike.
//I know enough math to not play, so I'll never win.  Wouldn't win anyway, but....
///Still, would totally get the flying bike.  And a pilot's license.  And a small jet.
////But yeah, stay the fark out of controlled airspace with an ultralight and you're good, unless you crash and die, which you might because they're nowhere close to as safe as commercial flight (or driving a car), though still safer than being an astronaut.
//I've had a friend die in an ultralight.  Wouldn't stop me from flying one anyway.


dude was good getting out of that corridor of hangars and around.
 
2019-03-14 11:02:52 PM  

ChipNASA: Like others developing similar craft, Mayman said the Speeder will be used for recreation and operated on personal property until rules and regulations begin to evolve. The craft can be operated autonomously or semiautonomously using a throttle and a joystick that will feel familiar to video game enthusiasts, he said


So, why did that video have the craft flying through a city when that would be against the law right now?

I can promise you, as "the rules and regulations begin to evolve", it will require a private pilot's license, primarily because multiple jets are involved vs. the lawn mower engines used on ultralights.
 
2019-03-14 11:17:13 PM  

DarkVader: It's obviously an ultralight.


No, it's not obvious.  Here are the FAA rules for ultralights:

Ultralight aircraft:  155 lb (70 kg) for unpowered, with extra weight allowed for amphibious landing gear and ballistic parachute systems; daylight hours; no license required; less than 5 US gallons (19 L) fuel capacity, empty weight of less than 254 pounds (115 kg), a top speed of 55 knots (102 km/h or 64 mph), and a maximum stall speed not exceeding 24 knots (45 km/h or 27.6 mph). May only be flown over unpopulated areas.

Light-sport aircraft -    -    -    sport pilot certificate -

That "flying motorcycle" wouldn't qualify as an ultralight on a number of factors: weight, speed, fuel capacity, etc.  It certainly couldn't be flown around a city, as shown in their video.

There are more conventional ultralight helicopters too.

An "ultralight helicopter" as you showed is still a HELICOPTER.  Pilot's license required.
 
2019-03-15 12:22:14 AM  

DarkVader: ChipNASA: indy_kid: LOL.

Okay, so you'll need a private pilot license at the very least.  Airspace over most cities is pretty tight; the FAA might not like these buzzing around any large metro area.

How is it stabilized?  A sharp bank combined with an unfortunate wind and you're gonna auger in.

If I have that kind of scratch to throw around on a toy, I'll opt for one of these:  Cobalt Co50 Valkyrie.

How do I know you didn't read the entire article?

Unlike with conventional aircraft, the Federal Aviation Administration does not require a pilot's license to operate a "powered ultralight" craft. The agency's rules require instead that ultralights operate during daylight hours in open areas and limit their use to sport and recreation.
Like others developing similar craft, Mayman said the Speeder will be used for recreation and operated on personal property until rules and regulations begin to evolve. The craft can be operated autonomously or semiautonomously using a throttle and a joystick that will feel familiar to video game enthusiasts, he said

Yeah, was gonna say basically the same thing without even reading TFA.

It's obviously an ultralight.  You need a driver's license.  The same one you need to drive a car.

There are more conventional ultralight helicopters too.


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You're probably already licensed.  (Do not attempt to fly without adequate training.)

/If I ever win the lottery, I'm buying the flying bike.
//I know enough math to not play, so I'll never win.  Wouldn't win anyway, but....
///Still, would totally get the flying bike.  And a pilot's license.  And a small jet.
////But yeah, stay the fark out of controlled airspace with an ultralight and you're good, unless you crash and die, which you might because they're nowhere close to as safe as commercial flight (or driving a car), though sti ...


I like that, It looks like it could be adapted to military use if they dont already have something close to it built like a mini apache or viper. Pilots could easily adapt to its controls... more so than the jet hover bike fta I would think.
 
2019-03-15 10:01:04 AM  
The Speeder builds on JPA's jet turbine expertise, developed over the years working on the company's astounding JB-series jetpacks. It uses a cluster of four turbojet engines putting out a combined maximum thrust of 705 lbf - enough to lift the 231-lb (105 kg) airframe and a pilot up to 240 lb (109 kg).

Crucially, they're also rigged up to a fly-by-wire control system that allows the Speeder to self-stabilize in the air, much like a quadcopter drone. Running on kerosene, JetA or diesel, you can get yourself between 10 and 22 minutes in the air, dependent on pilot weight and density altitude.

It's got hand controls, a 12-inch touch screen for navigation, and a built-in two-way aviation radio system for air-to-air and air-to-ground communications. JPA says it will build different versions to fit ultralight and recreational categories under FAA law, meaning you'll be able to fly the ultralight version with no license at all. The experimental category version will need a full pilot's license, but JPA is in contact with the FAA, trying to have that reduced to a Recreational Pilot Certificate or Sport Pilot's License to make life easier.

As to the Speeder, the company plans to build just 20 for the time being. You can reserve one yourself now for US$10,000. After that, all production will be dedicated to military and government use. The military version will be slightly different, with an additional jet turbine for redundancy and extra lift, and the capability to remote-fly it as a drone or cargo carrier.
 
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