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(CNBC)   Boeing's fix for the 737 MAX may take 3-6 months, predicts... Bank of America? Man, I don't even know what the hell's even going on in this world anymore   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2019-03-14 04:09:32 PM  
Other articles make it sound like they been working it since the Fall. Now the focus of attention is on them and the FAA. Now way it will take that long.
 
2019-03-14 04:34:41 PM  

edmo: Other articles make it sound like they been working it since the Fall. Now the focus of attention is on them and the FAA. Now way it will take that long.


If they've known it needed fixing for that long and didn't tell anyone.... They are going to be handing over a large amount of cash to lots of people
 
2019-03-14 05:21:35 PM  

Gubbo: If they've known it needed fixing for that long and didn't tell anyone.... They are going to be handing over a large amount of cash to lots of people


Boring's corporate policy is basically that their airplanes are *never* defective, and they go to great lengths to try to influence that in investigations.  They were able to drag out the 737' rudder hardover issues for a long time, to the point that they were trying to excuse it with freak wind gusts and seizures on the part of the pilot.

IIRC, a reporter for some paper up in Seattle got a Pulitzer for his investigation into it, and IIRC, Boeing wasn't amused and things got a bit underhanded for a while.

The 737's a cash cow for the company.  They're going to do whatever they can to ensure it stays that way, even if it ultimately takes the entire company down.
 
2019-03-14 05:22:08 PM  
Boeing was already going to have the FAA issue an Airworthy Directive in April for the new software. It was supposedly going to be ready in March but the government shut delayed it.
 
2019-03-14 05:28:41 PM  
From my experiences with BoA, both as an employee and as a customer, they know squat about software.
 
2019-03-14 05:54:46 PM  

cptcaveman: Boeing was already going to have the FAA issue an Airworthy Directive in April for the new software. It was supposedly going to be ready in March but the government shut delayed it.


Original AD was issued last November.
Extension issued 3 days ago.
 
2019-03-14 06:12:02 PM  
BoA? Let's wait for the inevitable Forbes article about something they know nothing about.
 
2019-03-14 06:52:05 PM  
Some people don't know about stocks and who issues buy ratings, apparently.
 
2019-03-14 07:16:38 PM  

Gubbo: edmo: Other articles make it sound like they been working it since the Fall. Now the focus of attention is on them and the FAA. Now way it will take that long.

If they've known it needed fixing for that long and didn't tell anyone.... They are going to be handing over a large amount of cash to lots of people


The FAA knew this was coming (some have blamed the shutdown for slowing it's progress at the FAA). It wan't a secret. A story from November: https://www.aerotime.aero/r​uta.burbait​e/22137-boeing-is-reportedly-planning-​737-max-software-upgrade
 
2019-03-14 07:23:40 PM  
A fix for a non-existent problem? Or a problem that no one even knows the aircraft has?
 
2019-03-14 08:00:03 PM  

mrmopar5287: A fix for a non-existent problem? Or a problem that no one even knows the aircraft has?


Call it a patch for a patch for a design with a real handling problem in certain situations
 
2019-03-14 08:22:42 PM  

cptcaveman: a real handling problem in certain situations


The fix is the same procedure that has been in place for 40+ years.
 
2019-03-14 09:26:49 PM  
I wonder what they based that estimate on.
 
2019-03-15 12:47:53 AM  

natazha: From my experiences with BoA, both as an employee and as a customer, they know squat about software.


your view from the parking lot may be obscured.
 
2019-03-15 03:16:50 AM  
Yeah well.
If the aircraft computer thinks it's going nose high and forces the nose down against the efforts of the pilots to keep it from nosing down, well there's your problem.
Software badly done to save the trouble of redoing the aerodynamics because they put on new engines.
When is a 737 no longer a 737?
When it's scattered all over the ground.
 
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