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(The Daily Beast)   Volkswagen CEO apologizes for comment that's a bit too on-brand for his company's founding history   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
    More: Awkward, Arbeit macht frei, Volkswagen CEO Herbert Diess, company event, EBIT macht frei, Arbeit Macht Frei, Auschwitz concentration camp, Nazi slogan, unfortunate choice of words  
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1608 clicks; posted to Business » on 14 Mar 2019 at 12:35 PM (6 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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6 days ago  
That's not good.
 
6 days ago  
Tone deaf fat-cats are gonna do their tone deaf fat-cat thing.
 
6 days ago  
Arby's macht fries.
 
6 days ago  
Hey...it's the motto of every "investor" in the world.
 
6 days ago  
Ugh.  It's just a cheap pun.  It's not exactly bad, it's that this idiot didn't think for a moment about the context or maybe the fact that he wasn't just having a been with his friends.

For anyone not clicking the link, he's all "EBIT macht frei", riffing on "Arbeit Macht Frei."  I am not going to judge you too hard if you tell Nazi jokes with your friends and having a laugh, because most of the time you and your friends all understand "this is bad don't do this in public."  I am going to judge the hell out of you if you think "this German company event in Germany needs a concentration camp joke!  Told by someone in leadership!"
 
6 days ago  

mcmnky: That's not good.


It's not a Bug, it's a feature.
 
6 days ago  

Kegluneq: Ugh.  It's just a cheap pun.  It's not exactly bad, it's that this idiot didn't think for a moment about the context or maybe the fact that he wasn't just having a been with his friends.

For anyone not clicking the link, he's all "EBIT macht frei", riffing on "Arbeit Macht Frei."  I am not going to judge you too hard if you tell Nazi jokes with your friends and having a laugh, because most of the time you and your friends all understand "this is bad don't do this in public."  I am going to judge the hell out of you if you think "this German company event in Germany needs a concentration camp joke!  Told by someone in leadership!"


Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).  How he could not see this backfiring in a huge way is shocking.

Also, much better info at the BBC than the crappy Daily Beast:  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47​56​6898
 
6 days ago  

Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).


He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.
 
6 days ago  
They've hated their customers for years. There's nothing surprising about this.
 
6 days ago  
So, have they ever found a final solution to their emissions shenanigans?

/Yes, I went there....
 
6 days ago  

Craw Fu: Kegluneq: Ugh.  It's just a cheap pun.  It's not exactly bad, it's that this idiot didn't think for a moment about the context or maybe the fact that he wasn't just having a been with his friends.

For anyone not clicking the link, he's all "EBIT macht frei", riffing on "Arbeit Macht Frei."  I am not going to judge you too hard if you tell Nazi jokes with your friends and having a laugh, because most of the time you and your friends all understand "this is bad don't do this in public."  I am going to judge the hell out of you if you think "this German company event in Germany needs a concentration camp joke!  Told by someone in leadership!"

Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).  How he could not see this backfiring in a huge way is shocking.

Also, much better info at the BBC than the crappy Daily Beast:  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-475​66898


Right?!  What brainfart led him to this?

Gah!
 
6 days ago  

dittybopper: Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).

He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.


Thank you for the clarification.
 
6 days ago  

Craw Fu: dittybopper: Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).

He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.

Thank you for the clarification.


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6 days ago  
He also shouldn't have mentioned the camp that they send workers to so that they can concentrate on their jobs.
 
6 days ago  
I can't believe that after WWII nobody at VW thought they maybe they should rebrand so that nobody would think of them as 'that Nazi car company'.

But what's even more unbelievable is that being 'that Nazi car company' didn't actually hurt their brand!
 
6 days ago  

Kegluneq: Ugh.  It's just a cheap pun.  It's not exactly bad, it's that this idiot didn't think for a moment about the context or maybe the fact that he wasn't just having a been with his friends.


His apology suggests that he wasn't making a pun or stupid joke but just talked his way into some terrible phrasing. I'd be curious if anyone who speaks German natively would buy that argument, or if the phrasing is not plausible without some level of intent.
 
6 days ago  

RalphW: I can't believe that after WWII nobody at VW thought they maybe they should rebrand so that nobody would think of them as 'that Nazi car company'.

But what's even more unbelievable is that being 'that Nazi car company' didn't actually hurt their brand!


It didn't hurt Bosch or Bayer or BASF either, so VW is hardly alone there. Same with Mitsubishi I suppose.
 
6 days ago  

dukeblue219: RalphW: I can't believe that after WWII nobody at VW thought they maybe they should rebrand so that nobody would think of them as 'that Nazi car company'.

But what's even more unbelievable is that being 'that Nazi car company' didn't actually hurt their brand!

It didn't hurt Bosch or Bayer or BASF either, so VW is hardly alone there. Same with Mitsubishi I suppose.


I mean, hell, this company is still in business:

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6 days ago  

jake_lex: dukeblue219: RalphW: I can't believe that after WWII nobody at VW thought they maybe they should rebrand so that nobody would think of them as 'that Nazi car company'.

But what's even more unbelievable is that being 'that Nazi car company' didn't actually hurt their brand!

It didn't hurt Bosch or Bayer or BASF either, so VW is hardly alone there. Same with Mitsubishi I suppose.

I mean, hell, this company is still in business:

[imagingenocide.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]


Is that a... soil aerator? A thing that puts holes in other things? D:
 
6 days ago  
"well I'm sure it can't be that bad"....clicks link....."Hoooo boy, it's that bad".
 
6 days ago  
Gott Mit Volkswagen
 
6 days ago  
If you're offended by this, you're a huge pussy.
 
6 days ago  

dittybopper: Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).

He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.


And Ferdinand Porsche was a card carrying Nazi that designed tanks for Nazi Germany. It's kind of bad no matter how you look at it.
 
6 days ago  

spooky.action: dittybopper: Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).

He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.

And Ferdinand Porsche was a card carrying Nazi that designed tanks for Nazi Germany. It's kind of bad no matter how you look at it.


Apparently, he wasn't good enough of a designer. My hey lost.
 
6 days ago  
*THEY* lost.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
Is this better or worse than that time the manager of Germany's football team described their comeback win over Poland as a "triumph of the will"?

/Yes, that really happened
 
6 days ago  
He forgot the DA. It's EBITDA!
Stupid ass acronym invented more than 20 years ago.
The 'CEO' of my employer started throwing it around at company meetings to make himself sound special.
Then every lower in the chain schmuck started to parrot it, because they wanted to be cool too.
"OH, you don't know what it means?" Well, you're just stupid, and I'm better than you.
 
5 days ago  
Something something ashtray?
 
5 days ago  

dittybopper: spooky.action: dittybopper: Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).

He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.

And Ferdinand Porsche was a card carrying Nazi that designed tanks for Nazi Germany. It's kind of bad no matter how you look at it.

Apparently, he wasn't good enough of a designer. My hey lost.


Speaking of designers working for the Nazis:

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5 days ago  

RalphW: I can't believe that after WWII nobody at VW thought they maybe they should rebrand so that nobody would think of them as 'that Nazi car company'.

But what's even more unbelievable is that being 'that Nazi car company' didn't actually hurt their brand!


Maybe because all the Nazi fatkatts drove around in Mercedeses.
And it was probably ten years after the war before they showed up in the US (in any sizeable numbers anyway).
 
5 days ago  

Billy Liar: RalphW: I can't believe that after WWII nobody at VW thought they maybe they should rebrand so that nobody would think of them as 'that Nazi car company'.

But what's even more unbelievable is that being 'that Nazi car company' didn't actually hurt their brand!

Maybe because all the Nazi fatkatts drove around in Mercedeses.
And it was probably ten years after the war before they showed up in the US (in any sizeable numbers anyway).


Actually, they didn't really start showing up in Germany long before that:

The construction of the new factory started in May 1938 in the new town of "Stadt des KdF-Wagens" (modern-day Wolfsburg), which had been purpose-built for the factory workers.[15] This factory had only produced a handful of cars by the time war started in 1939. None were actually delivered to any holder of the completed saving stamp books, though one Type 1 Cabriolet was presented to Hitler on 20 April 1944 (his 55th birthday).[15]

The "saving stamp books" thing is that basically you got to pay for the car in advance.  But no one actually got a car.  I doubt very many people complained, however.
 
5 days ago  

jake_lex: dittybopper: spooky.action: dittybopper: Craw Fu: Not only that, but also in a company that sold a car designed by Hitler (the VW Bug).

He didn't *DESIGN* it.  He conceived it.  It was actually designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.

And Ferdinand Porsche was a card carrying Nazi that designed tanks for Nazi Germany. It's kind of bad no matter how you look at it.

Apparently, he wasn't good enough of a designer. My hey lost.

Speaking of designers working for the Nazis:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 551x444]


Although, IIRC, they made some kind of reparations or donations or something awhile back.  It didn't garner the coverage it probably should have though.  Maybe Hugo Boss isn't the household name they thought it was, or more likely, it's not something most people could pick out on sight, like you could with a VW Beetle.
 
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