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(Reuters)   When even Russia is complaining that you're too corrupt to do business with, you should step back and take a hard look at your country   (reuters.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Petroleum, Rosneft's local partner, Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA, Russian state, Peak oil, scores of internal Rosneft communications, oil firm, Rosneft  
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2019-03-14 10:54:26 AM  
Hey Vlad, I'd like to talk to you about a diamond mine in Guyana. A surefire thing...just wire $800millionUSD to this numbered account in The Maldives, and the profit will start rolling in, really soon. Promise...
Your comrade,
B. Zelltown
 
2019-03-14 12:03:26 PM  
Money go bye bye.
 
2019-03-14 12:04:26 PM  
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Mr. Putin, I'm sure we can trust the president of Venezuela.
 
2019-03-14 12:05:07 PM  
I don't think it is a wise move to cheat the Russian government.  It's a good way to accidentally trip over some polonium.
 
2019-03-14 12:07:58 PM  
I've been assured that this is somehow the CIA's fault.
 
2019-03-14 12:12:41 PM  
Listen, I'm not about to defend Venezuela current policies.  But Russian sources are not exactly the bellwether for validation.  If Russian state sources told me that Water was Wet, I would want it independently verified.
 
2019-03-14 12:14:53 PM  

v2micca: Listen, I'm not about to defend Venezuela current policies.  But Russian sources are not exactly the bellwether for validation.  If Russian state sources told me that Water was Wet, I would want it independently verified.


This.  "These guys are so corrupt they managed to screw us when we were trying to screw them"
 
2019-03-14 12:15:13 PM  
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2019-03-14 12:16:51 PM  
Not gonna lie, I assumed this was about President Sniveling Asshole and his band of greedy minions.

Plus, who gives a fark if "Russia" lost money investing in Venezuela?
 
2019-03-14 12:18:40 PM  
Hey, they paid for Disaster Maldonado to add a dash of excitement to F1, so there's that.
 
2019-03-14 12:23:17 PM  
Russia is a CIA economic hitman doing shock doctrine to Venezuela so Bush can steal their oil!
 
2019-03-14 12:24:33 PM  
Better not let that money go to waste and send more rubles to Venezuela to keep it propped up.

/Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy?
 
2019-03-14 12:29:12 PM  
Protip: don't steal from the Russians. That being said it's nice to see one of these little power plays blow up in their faces.
 
2019-03-14 12:37:14 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Not gonna lie, I assumed this was about President Sniveling Asshole and his band of greedy minions.

Plus, who gives a fark if "Russia" lost money investing in Venezuela?


They lost money in Ukraine. They used to have the whole country by paying off their puppets in the government. Now they only have Crimea and some no man's land in the east. But most of the country is entirely outside of their control and hates them with a passion. Plus, when you factor in sanctions, that investment is not paying off the dividends it once did. They're also losing money on Syria. Assad used to prop up himself, now the Russians have to spend money to keep him in power and when he finally wins his civil war, his country will be mostly ashes.

The only investment of theirs that's paying off are the republicans.
 
2019-03-14 12:37:58 PM  
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2019-03-14 12:41:15 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Better not let that money go to waste and send more rubles to Venezuela to keep it propped up.

/Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy?


Venezuela isn't a Russian financial investment, it's a strategic one.
 
2019-03-14 12:46:33 PM  

BigNumber12: The Irresponsible Captain: Better not let that money go to waste and send more rubles to Venezuela to keep it propped up.

/Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy?

Venezuela isn't a Russian financial investment, it's a strategic one.


They're not any better at those, either. Haven't been for over a century.

You have to be a special kind of inept and malicious to waste resources on a level the Russians have.
 
2019-03-14 12:50:03 PM  

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what a sniveling, ignorant muthafuka!
 
2019-03-14 12:50:29 PM  
How could they have lost money? It's a Socialist paradise! We've been told so by people like Sean Penn, and everyone knows Hollywood would never lie to us.

Right?

Hey bartender, are you listening?
 
2019-03-14 12:53:35 PM  

Intel154: v2micca: Listen, I'm not about to defend Venezuela current policies.  But Russian sources are not exactly the bellwether for validation.  If Russian state sources told me that Water was Wet, I would want it independently verified.

This.  "These guys are so corrupt they managed to screw us when we were trying to screw them"


Giving people money is trying to screw them. Are there like American bots on Fark?
 
2019-03-14 12:59:51 PM  

Marine1: BigNumber12: The Irresponsible Captain: Better not let that money go to waste and send more rubles to Venezuela to keep it propped up.

/Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy?

Venezuela isn't a Russian financial investment, it's a strategic one.

They're not any better at those, either. Haven't been for over a century.

You have to be a special kind of inept and malicious to waste resources on a level the Russians have.


No argument whatsoever. But cost and efficiency aren't their purpose. Russia is nostalgic for empire and desperate for "allies." All the better if one of those allies lets them point a dagger at our back from time to time, as they love to do (disproportionate to cost or benefit). Russia (the State*) is all about message, image, and pride.

*distinct from Russia-the-Oligarchs who are all about graft and luxury
 
2019-03-14 01:01:15 PM  
I was kinda shocked to see "Venezuela" when "USA" was the most obvious reference.
 
2019-03-14 01:01:52 PM  
They're hiding the oil UNDER the city!!

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2019-03-14 01:04:48 PM  

BigNumber12: Marine1: BigNumber12: The Irresponsible Captain: Better not let that money go to waste and send more rubles to Venezuela to keep it propped up.

/Isn't that some kind of logical fallacy?

Venezuela isn't a Russian financial investment, it's a strategic one.

They're not any better at those, either. Haven't been for over a century.

You have to be a special kind of inept and malicious to waste resources on a level the Russians have.

No argument whatsoever. But cost and efficiency aren't their purpose. Russia is nostalgic for empire and desperate for "allies." All the better if one of those allies lets them point a dagger at our back from time to time, as they love to do (disproportionate to cost or benefit). Russia (the State*) is all about message, image, and pride.

*distinct from Russia-the-Oligarchs who are all about graft and luxury


That's just it, though. Cost and efficiency are the way to get those things. No other country has the resources Russia has/had... they're the largest country by area in the world, have tons of fertile land, lots of oil and natural gas, large forests, smart people... Economically, the US is what Russia should be, the richest country in the world.
 
2019-03-14 01:05:59 PM  
Only a thief thinks everyone want to steal from them.
 
2019-03-14 01:06:17 PM  
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch of criminals.
 
2019-03-14 01:11:26 PM  

Marine1: That's just it, though. Cost and efficiency are the way to get those things. No other country has the resources Russia has/had... they're the largest country by area in the world, have tons of fertile land, lots of oil and natural gas, large forests, smart people... Economically, the US is what Russia should be, the richest country in the world.


Yep, but their leaders are simply too Russian. Their national wealth is hiding in European and Tropical banks, rather than working for their economy in any meaningful fashion.
 
2019-03-14 01:11:42 PM  
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2019-03-14 01:13:39 PM  

gameshowhost: I was kinda shocked to see "Venezuela" when "USA" was the most obvious reference.


Our home grown version of Maduro hasn't finished dumping us into the turd world yet.
Give him time - he's working on it.
 
2019-03-14 01:14:39 PM  
How do you right a sunken ship?
 
2019-03-14 01:15:13 PM  
.. and you believe Russians

Hahahahaha
 
2019-03-14 01:16:33 PM  

Deep Contact: How do you right a sunken ship?


How can you mend a broken heart?
 
2019-03-14 01:21:05 PM  
Oh, Dimitri..
 
2019-03-14 01:24:36 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: .. and you believe Russians

Hahahahaha


Russian pride and superiority are in play. Rosneft's execs are the cocaine dealer who complains to the police when someone robs them, because it pisses them off that someone out-swindled them. With a dose of "Those backwards Venezuelans wouldn't have gotten the better of us, but politicians are forcing us to be a victim."

"...complaining there was no progress in getting PDVSA to explain a $700 million hole in the balance sheet of a joint venture."

"$700 million vanished into private coffers?! That's our job, damn it!"
 
2019-03-14 01:29:11 PM  

Marine1: That's just it, though. Cost and efficiency are the way to get those things.


Venezuela is a Spite House. It's not particularly efficient or cost-effective, but it sends a message and shows that Russia has the means to afford such things simply for the purpose of stigginit to you.
 
2019-03-14 01:53:22 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Deep Contact: How do you right a sunken ship?

How can you mend a broken heart?


Vlad is a heart breaker.
 
2019-03-14 01:56:19 PM  

Deep Contact: SirEattonHogg: Deep Contact: How do you right a sunken ship?

How can you mend a broken heart?

Vlad is a heart breaker.


and a dream maker....
 
2019-03-14 02:21:09 PM  
Send in Bernie

He knows how to make socialism work.

( Waits for  hate from bernie lovers and how they are a different kind of socialism)
 
2019-03-14 02:34:50 PM  
Venezuela officials invited to Russian polonium tea party
 
2019-03-14 02:46:48 PM  

SirEattonHogg: Deep Contact: How do you right a sunken ship?

How can you mend a broken heart?


How can you stop the rain from falling
what makes the world go around
 
2019-03-14 02:47:42 PM  

jackandwater: snocone: [img.fark.net image 500x347]

what a sniveling, ignorant muthafuka!


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2019-03-14 03:22:42 PM  
The TDS is real, very, very real.
https://www.newsweek.com/therapists-r​e​port-rise-anxiety-trump-was-elected-10​46687

Causing, what I assume are reasonable people, to think Trump is a dictator.
(Riddle me this if you think Trump is a dictator: Why does the ACA still exist?)
It would be funny if it wasn't so damn sad.
 
2019-03-14 03:44:27 PM  

mrsleep: The TDS is real, very, very real.
https://www.newsweek.com/therapists-re​port-rise-anxiety-trump-was-elected-10​46687

Causing, what I assume are reasonable people, to think Trump is a dictator.
(Riddle me this if you think Trump is a dictator: Why does the ACA still exist?)
It would be funny if it wasn't so damn sad.


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Turns out there are legitimate reasons to be upset and/or anxious about the Trump presidency.
 
2019-03-14 03:54:03 PM  

mrsleep: Causing, what I assume are reasonable people, to think Trump is a dictator.
(Riddle me this if you think Trump is a dictator: Why does the ACA still exist?)


I'll tell you.  Trump is a wannabe dictator and his most ardent followers "wannahimtobe".  They are willing not to overlook, but to cheer on behavior and decisions that make unfavorable executive actions made by Obama look like playing "tea time" with the kiddos.

The ACA still exists because Trump *hasn't* achieved dictatorship.  But that's down to the division of Federal powers still working so far, not for lack of will on the part of Trump's followers.
 
2019-03-14 04:21:29 PM  

v2micca: Listen, I'm not about to defend Venezuela current policies.  But Russian sources are not exactly the bellwether for validation.  If Russian state sources told me that Water was Wet, I would want it independently verified.


Water Isn't Wet
Youtube mV-CmdVU8HU
 
2019-03-14 07:33:17 PM  

Kefka1911: v2micca: Listen, I'm not about to defend Venezuela current policies.  But Russian sources are not exactly the bellwether for validation.  If Russian state sources told me that Water was Wet, I would want it independently verified.

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Strong hammer and sickle hydrogen bonds.
 
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