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6 days ago  
No giggity tag?
 
6 days ago  
"I accept that some of what I did was not just wrong, but criminal. '

biatch hasn't learned a damned thing. She's sorry she got caught.
 
6 days ago  
This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.
 
6 days ago  
Add in the Child Pr0n charges also filed today, I would say these folks are toast.
 
TWX
6 days ago  

Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.


Some people don't want the, "voluntary and can walk away" aspects. Like the 58 year old guy that had managed to get even some fairly prominent actresses under his control.

Ncki Clyne, who played Cally on Battlestar Galactica, left the show when she got more deeply involved in the cult. Somehow he/they convinced her to leave a promising acting career to join their sex cult. Still trying to figure out how that happened.
 
6 days ago  
Pleaded guilty to identity theft and hacking, not to running a sex slave cult.
 
6 days ago  

Another Government Employee: Add in the Child Pr0n charges also filed today, I would say these folks are toast.


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6 days ago  
What's Alison Mack's status in all of this?
 
6 days ago  

browneye: What's Alison Mack's status in all of this?


Well and truly trucked.
 
6 days ago  

Trik: Pleaded guilty to identity theft and hacking, not to running a sex slave cult.


Technically, I don't think running a sex slave cult violates any laws.

Though I can imagine that....

The meanest, ugliest, nastiest one the meanest 
Father-raper of them all was comin' over to me, and he was mean and 
Ugly and nasty and horrible and all kinds of things, and he sat down next to 
Me. He said, "Kid, what'd you get?"

I said, "I didn't get nothin'. I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage."

He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" and I said, "litterin'"

And they all moved away from me on the bench there, with the hairy eyeball 
And all kinds of mean, nasty things, till I said, "And running a sex slave cult"

And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the 
Bench talkin' about crime, mother-stabbin', father-rapin', all kinds 
Of groovy things that we was talkin' about on the bench, and everything was fine
 
6 days ago  

browneye: What's Alison Mack's status in all of this?


She's had her Secret World exposed.
 
6 days ago  

TWX: Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.

Some people don't want the, "voluntary and can walk away" aspects. Like the 58 year old guy that had managed to get even some fairly prominent actresses under his control.

Ncki Clyne, who played Cally on Battlestar Galactica, left the show when she got more deeply involved in the cult. Somehow he/they convinced her to leave a promising acting career to join their sex cult. Still trying to figure out how that happened.


Inappropriate and I'll report myself but I just had a thought about Tricia Helfer and the other women from BSG as sex slaves and now I'll be in my bunk.
 
6 days ago  
She ran a sex cult? Lies.
 
6 days ago  

browneye: What's Alison Mack's status in all of this?


Is Mack frakked?
 
6 days ago  
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meow..
 
6 days ago  
Nice work if you can get it.
 
6 days ago  

dittybopper: Trik: Pleaded guilty to identity theft and hacking, not to running a sex slave cult.

Technically, I don't think running a sex slave cult violates any laws.

Though I can imagine that....

The meanest, ugliest, nastiest one the meanest 
Father-raper of them all was comin' over to me, and he was mean and 
Ugly and nasty and horrible and all kinds of things, and he sat down next to 
Me. He said, "Kid, what'd you get?"

I said, "I didn't get nothin'. I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage."

He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" and I said, "litterin'"

And they all moved away from me on the bench there, with the hairy eyeball 
And all kinds of mean, nasty things, till I said, "And running a sex slave cult"

And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the 
Bench talkin' about crime, mother-stabbin', father-rapin', all kinds 
Of groovy things that we was talkin' about on the bench, and everything was fine


Dittybopper, you got a lot of god-damned gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself! I mean I mean I
mean that you send I'm sittin' here on the bench I mean I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench, 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough to post on Fark, start a sex cult, burn women, kids, houses and trolls after bein' a litterbug."
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.


A lot of it, like the branding, wasn't consensual. You could say the same sort of things about Sea Org or the women in Quiverful cults - theoretically, they all could just wander away. Things like threats, intimidation, and whole heaping of brainwashing keep people there.
 
6 days ago  

Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.


I guess because the idea of laying Allison Mack, who was standing right there in front of you, in all her Chloe Sullivanesque glory, sort of got to them. Which was sort of the point, from a recruiting standpoint.
 
6 days ago  

luidprand: Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.

A lot of it, like the branding, wasn't consensual. You could say the same sort of things about Sea Org or the women in Quiverful cults - theoretically, they all could just wander away. Things like threats, intimidation, and whole heaping of brainwashing keep people there.


I remember when Rose McGowan talked about growing up in the Children of God cult in the 70s, and that female members (some thought to be underage) used sex to recruit male members (known as "Flirty Fishing").  I know they completely re-branded the group in the 80s but their legacy as a sex cult remained, although I'm uncertain of current or recent evidence.  NXIVM just seems like a dude who wanted a harem and recruited vulnerable women to fill it.
 
6 days ago  

th0th: luidprand: Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.

A lot of it, like the branding, wasn't consensual. You could say the same sort of things about Sea Org or the women in Quiverful cults - theoretically, they all could just wander away. Things like threats, intimidation, and whole heaping of brainwashing keep people there.

I remember when Rose McGowan talked about growing up in the Children of God cult in the 70s, and that female members (some thought to be underage) used sex to recruit male members (known as "Flirty Fishing").  I know they completely re-branded the group in the 80s but their legacy as a sex cult remained, although I'm uncertain of current or recent evidence.  NXIVM just seems like a dude who wanted a harem and recruited vulnerable women to fill it.


Just takes one bad apple to ruin the whole sex cult industry.
 
6 days ago  
These kind of mind games get played out in the BDSM scene too often. People have this fantasy image of a 24/7 master/slave relationship that is unrealistic and unhealthy, but online communication allows them to invest in the fantasy very deeply. The tactics in most cases I've heard of weren't terribly dissimilar to catfishing for cash. Anyone interested in that kind of activity should seek out healthy support structures such as munches in their area.

It is impressive that this guy was so successful as most of the players I'm aware of were playing small ball for short periods of time.
 
6 days ago  

Vodka Zombie: browneye: What's Alison Mack's status in all of this?

Is Mack frakked?


What I meant was is she in jail?  Out on bail?  Acquitted?  Just curious because I hadn't heard anything lately about her.
 
6 days ago  

Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.


Because for some, the simulation isn't enough they want the "real" thing (they don;t, on either side on one side it's dehumanizing on the other it's simply exhausting being that in control of another human being 24/7.  That said I'm still struggling with (at least form the reporting) the prosecutors essentially blurring the lines of when a sane adult can give consent to something someone else may find wrong or repugnant.  That way lies the reinstatement of Sodomy laws
 
6 days ago  

th0th: luidprand: Esroc: This whole thing is so stupid. I know this is probably victim blaming, but sex clubs exist. Why join a cult to live out your submission fantasy when every major city, and a few small ones, have multiple legal places to go to for exactly that. And you're free to leave at any time during and afterwards.

In fact, if NXIVM hadn't gone the blackmail route they wouldn't be in this situation either. And it was unnecessary since they already had consenting slaves. So everyone involved is a farking moron.

A lot of it, like the branding, wasn't consensual. You could say the same sort of things about Sea Org or the women in Quiverful cults - theoretically, they all could just wander away. Things like threats, intimidation, and whole heaping of brainwashing keep people there.

I remember when Rose McGowan talked about growing up in the Children of God cult in the 70s, and that female members (some thought to be underage) used sex to recruit male members (known as "Flirty Fishing").  I know they completely re-branded the group in the 80s but their legacy as a sex cult remained, although I'm uncertain of current or recent evidence.  NXIVM just seems like a dude who wanted a harem and recruited vulnerable women to fill it.


Pretty much all cults start that way.  And religions.
 
6 days ago  
"If I could go back and do it all over again, I would. But I can't."

She's not showing remorse, she said she'd do it all over again if she could!
 
5 days ago  
Shot through the heart
and you're to blame
you give sex cults
a bad name
 
5 days ago  

shabu: Anyone interested in that kind of activity should seek out healthy support structures such as munches in their area.


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5 days ago  
I say Allison was being blackmailed. There was a sex tape of her and Kristin Kreuk doing all sorts of unspeakable things.  The leader of the cult confronted them with it and said he would expose them if they didn't start recruiting for him. Allison sacrificed herself by saying that she would not only help him but become his partner in all ways if he just let Kristin go.  He agreed and so she joined him in that horrible life. Any day now Kristin will save her lover by telling the world what happened and the sex tape will go public but Allison will be free to be a normal actress once again.

Or at least that's my favorite theory.
 
5 days ago  

Noah_Tall: I say Allison was being blackmailed. There was a sex tape of her and Kristin Kreuk doing all sorts of unspeakable things.  The leader of the cult confronted them with it and said he would expose them if they didn't start recruiting for him. Allison sacrificed herself by saying that she would not only help him but become his partner in all ways if he just let Kristin go.  He agreed and so she joined him in that horrible life. Any day now Kristin will save her lover by telling the world what happened and the sex tape will go public but Allison will be free to be a normal actress once again.

Or at least that's my favorite theory.


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5 days ago  

Noah_Tall: I say Allison was being blackmailed. There was a sex tape of her and Kristin Kreuk doing all sorts of unspeakable things.  The leader of the cult confronted them with it and said he would expose them if they didn't start recruiting for him. Allison sacrificed herself by saying that she would not only help him but become his partner in all ways if he just let Kristin go.  He agreed and so she joined him in that horrible life. Any day now Kristin will save her lover by telling the world what happened and the sex tape will go public but Allison will be free to be a normal actress once again.

Or at least that's my favorite theory.


Try to avoid getting too excited about non-consensual activity. That kind of thinking is what led to this sad state of affairs.
 
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