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2019-03-13 09:14:31 PM  
He is as Hispanic as I am. Beto my arse.
 
2019-03-13 09:17:19 PM  
He is nowhere near as Irish as I am.  B'eto my arse.
 
2019-03-13 09:20:31 PM  
He's a proper Englishman, my tuckus!

B'eto my Piccadilly.
 
2019-03-13 09:20:35 PM  
I hope he gets in, and I hope he gets the nomination.  And I hope he picks pete bootiege as his vice president. Maybe then I'll learn how to spell Pete's last name right.
 
2019-03-13 09:22:51 PM  

stir22: I hope he gets in, and I hope he gets the nomination.  And I hope he picks pete bootiege as his vice president. Maybe then I'll learn how to spell Pete's last name right.


That's Bootie-gig.
 
2019-03-13 09:26:20 PM  
OFFS.  When your party's last nominee was hated for the idea that it was "her turn" (which she never, ever said), you thought it was the smart thing to say, right out of the gate, "Man, I was f*cking BORN for this!"

Hay. Seuss. Kreist.
 
2019-03-13 09:35:27 PM  
This race is going to be so watered down I fear it will only weaken the chance to get Herr Turmp out.
 
2019-03-13 09:39:56 PM  

feckingmorons: He is as Hispanic as I am. Beto my arse.


He grew up in El Paso, which makes him more Hispanic than a lot of Hispanics I know.  Fecking my arse.


Wait, that came out wrong!
 
2019-03-13 09:55:01 PM  

feckingmorons: He is as Hispanic as I am. Beto my arse.


He was given that nickname when he was three. It's Spanglish for Robert.

Very common in S TX and El Paso.
 
2019-03-13 09:55:20 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OFFS.  When your party's last nominee was hated for the idea that it was "her turn" (which she never, ever said), you thought it was the smart thing to say, right out of the gate, "Man, I was f*cking BORN for this!"

Hay. Seuss. Kreist.


This. Do something (like win your home state) first. Win the governorship or something, then hit the next cycle.

/Even if she never said it out loud, it was definitely front and center in her mind.
//I still think 2020 will be like 1992... "look at all these heavy-hitters... and who's this dude from Arkansas?"
///Any of them would still be orders of magnitude better than Dolt45.
 
2019-03-13 10:10:25 PM  

feckingmorons: He is as Hispanic as I am. Beto my arse.


Did he claim to be Hispanic? Because having a nickname isn't disqualifying as far as I know
 
2019-03-13 10:36:24 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: feckingmorons: He is as Hispanic as I am. Beto my arse.

Did he claim to be Hispanic? Because having a nickname isn't disqualifying as far as I know


Well I'm not voting for him!
 
2019-03-13 11:19:12 PM  

basemetal: This race is going to be so watered down I fear it will only weaken the chance to get Herr Turmp out.


It's like they are AFRAID to tap into the real rage people do feel against watching what the right is doing and feeling helpless. Maybe if that is the way they feel...they should be. They have something to be afraid of.

That blue wave wasn't for the Democratic party. It was for Democracy. And if they don't give the fire, people will rise up.

I hope Abrams runs. She's got moxie.
 
2019-03-13 11:20:23 PM  
The only person I wouldn't vote for in the General would be "uncle joe".If it was between him and Trump...
America already lost. The election won't even matter.
 
2019-03-13 11:25:04 PM  

nekom: He is nowhere near as Irish as I am.  B'eto my arse.


He's certainly no true Scotsman.
 
2019-03-13 11:26:43 PM  
BretMavrik:

I still think 2020 will be like 1992... "look at all these heavy-hitters... and who's this dude from Arkansas?"

I couldn't agree more, well said.  And who knows, he may have the charisma and retail skills to pull it off
 
2019-03-13 11:48:59 PM  
 
2019-03-14 12:29:19 AM  
I already know how to spell Buttigieg and I've already given money to his campaign, but I'm excited about Beto as well. It's going to be a tough call who to vote for in the primary.

But no matter who wins the D nomination, they've got my vote.
 
2019-03-14 02:57:05 AM  
I really don't care.

I think I'd prefer Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren.
 
2019-03-14 03:00:13 AM  

basemetal: This race is going to be so watered down I fear it will only weaken the chance to get Herr Turmp out.


The next president of the United States may be a guy who was in a band with the dudes from Mars Volta and At the Drive In. I can't say I saw that one coming.
 
2019-03-14 03:01:37 AM  
A Democrat with a very real chance of carrying Texas, is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
2019-03-14 03:02:48 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OFFS.  When your party's last nominee was hated for the idea that it was "her turn" (which she never, ever said), you thought it was the smart thing to say, right out of the gate, "Man, I was f*cking BORN for this!"

Hay. Seuss. Kreist.


Beto is a dude. No one cares when men act entitled.
 
2019-03-14 03:08:27 AM  

feckingmorons: He is as Hispanic as I am. Beto my arse.


Beto your own arse.
 
2019-03-14 03:14:50 AM  

aleister_greynight: A Democrat with a very real chance of carrying Texas, is not necessarily a bad thing.


In the primaries, it kinda is. He takes no early states but holds out for Super Tuesday where he brings in Texas and you are well on your way to a brokered convention.
 
2019-03-14 03:15:31 AM  
Beto or not Beto, that is the question.
 
2019-03-14 03:19:50 AM  
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2019-03-14 03:35:03 AM  
Now I'll have send Bernie another $27
 
2019-03-14 03:47:22 AM  
Loser
 
2019-03-14 03:55:57 AM  

basemetal: This race is going to be so watered down I fear it will only weaken the chance to get Herr Turmp out.


That and the Democratic preferred tactic of using Circular Firing Squads.
 
2019-03-14 03:56:15 AM  

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I feel bad for his dog. His pupper seems sad
 
2019-03-14 03:57:51 AM  
Want to hug
 
2019-03-14 04:02:32 AM  
He lost to Ted Cruz in Texas.

If you think that reflects on the national stage, he'll lose to anyone.

If you think that doesn't reflect on the national stage, Bernie polls better and would have won 2016.
 
2019-03-14 04:15:53 AM  
Beto's power is his ability to address the wedge issues that trip up so many in the Democratic party, and speak to them in a way that highlights our shared values. As he did in the NFL kneeling brohaha. I love Warren's policy initiatives, and I like Harris' freshness, but I haven't see anyone but Beto on the Democratic side who can communicate and navigate as effectively as Beto.

If the last election taught us anything it is that Policy does not beat Communication. We saw it with the bare bones, policy-free campaign of Trump, which was boiled down to soundbites like MAGA and "Mexico will build the wall." Clinton had policies on everything, but couldn't communicate or defend them in an effective way.

The policy means nothing if it can't be communicated effectively, and defended against the constant mischaracterization we see in the modern era. This is the age of the soundbite, and Beto is fully capable of waging that war. AOC probably could hold her own too after a few terms in the house, she already does spectacularly on Twitter and in interviews. Beto is pretty liberal, and he can and probably will win this election. I am willing to give a little on the policy side for that, and if we have learned anything over the last three years so will the rest of the party in the primary.

This 'he lost Texas' pony that keeps getting trotted out as an excuse to make him wait is also weapons grade stupid. He made Texas competitive, when no one else could, and carried Democrats into the house. If he can replicate that same margin nation wide he gets Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona.
 
2019-03-14 04:16:18 AM  

doglover: He lost to Ted Cruz in Texas.

If you think that reflects on the national stage, he'll lose to anyone.

If you think that doesn't reflect on the national stage, Bernie polls better and would have won 2016.


Wow you're weapons grade stupid.
 
2019-03-14 04:28:07 AM  

BretMavrik: Benevolent Misanthrope: OFFS.  When your party's last nominee was hated for the idea that it was "her turn" (which she never, ever said), you thought it was the smart thing to say, right out of the gate, "Man, I was f*cking BORN for this!"

Hay. Seuss. Kreist.

This. Do something (like win your home state) first. Win the governorship or something, then hit the next cycle.

/Even if she never said it out loud, it was definitely front and center in her mind.
//I still think 2020 will be like 1992... "look at all these heavy-hitters... and who's this dude from Arkansas?"
///Any of them would still be orders of magnitude better than Dolt45.


And you know this how?

Also, any time anyone pulls the "HURR DURR, THEY GOTS NO EXPERIENCE" idiocy about any candidate, they need to take a long hard look at who our current president is, and then shut the fark up because it's pretty farking obvious that experience in related or applicable matters is not a motherfarking factor anymore unless you're pulling some purity test bs.
 
2019-03-14 04:30:09 AM  

basemetal: This race is going to be so watered down I fear it will only weaken the chance to get Herr Turmp out.


GOP had a clown car and somehow Trump emerged from it. None of the Republicans would go for the jugular, thinking Trump would choke on his own.

Jeb, the Wisconsin governor guy, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were the initial favorites before Trump descended the escalator with theme music, and it's not like DT rocketed to the top when he announced. He even announced after the CPAC before the primary season kicked in, if I recall. Look how clown car the GOP looked in March 2015.

/damn, not a word of Trump in that thread. March 2015 seems like another world.
 
2019-03-14 04:43:41 AM  

nekom: He is nowhere near as Irish as I am.  B'eto my arse.


I bet that mother*cker doesn't even even speak Farsi.
 
2019-03-14 04:47:01 AM  

Alunan: If the last election taught us anything it is that Policy does not beat Communication. We saw it with the bare bones, policy-free campaign of Trump, which was boiled down to soundbites like MAGA and "Mexico will build the wall." Clinton had policies on everything, but couldn't communicate or defend them in an effective way.


One day the Democratic party will realize that "Being a good President" and "Being a good Presidential candidate" are two different skill sets.
 
2019-03-14 04:50:56 AM  
 As a reminder, we have had other relatively inexperienced but talented and intelligent people run this show. Also, he's very electable. I've watched and read his interviews- while he might best serve as a VP for a while, the guy has the charisma and brains to eventually get this done.
 
2019-03-14 04:51:24 AM  

jgbrowning: Alunan: If the last election taught us anything it is that Policy does not beat Communication. We saw it with the bare bones, policy-free campaign of Trump, which was boiled down to soundbites like MAGA and "Mexico will build the wall." Clinton had policies on everything, but couldn't communicate or defend them in an effective way.

One day the Democratic party will realize that "Being a good President" and "Being a good Presidential candidate" are two different skill sets.


I know right? And it's not even like Beto is going to be that bad of a President. I mean, my god, the worse anyone has on him is that people who work for oil companies donated to his campaign. Individual people who also lived in his state, not actual corporations. That's the evil of Beto. As if everyone who ever worked for a company believes in everything a certain company does. I know a mid-level Verizon executive who thinks net neutrality is awesome.
 
2019-03-14 04:57:44 AM  

Alunan: Beto's power is his ability to address the wedge issues that trip up so many in the Democratic party, and speak to them in a way that highlights our shared values. As he did in the NFL kneeling brohaha. I love Warren's policy initiatives, and I like Harris' freshness, but I haven't see anyone but Beto on the Democratic side who can communicate and navigate as effectively as Beto.

If the last election taught us anything it is that Policy does not beat Communication. We saw it with the bare bones, policy-free campaign of Trump, which was boiled down to soundbites like MAGA and "Mexico will build the wall." Clinton had policies on everything, but couldn't communicate or defend them in an effective way.

The policy means nothing if it can't be communicated effectively, and defended against the constant mischaracterization we see in the modern era. This is the age of the soundbite, and Beto is fully capable of waging that war. AOC probably could hold her own too after a few terms in the house, she already does spectacularly on Twitter and in interviews. Beto is pretty liberal, and he can and probably will win this election. I am willing to give a little on the policy side for that, and if we have learned anything over the last three years so will the rest of the party in the primary.

This 'he lost Texas' pony that keeps getting trotted out as an excuse to make him wait is also weapons grade stupid. He made Texas competitive, when no one else could, and carried Democrats into the house. If he can replicate that same margin nation wide he gets Ohio, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Arizona.


This.
 
2019-03-14 04:58:56 AM  

dickfreckle: As a reminder, we have had other relatively inexperienced but talented and intelligent people run this show. Also, he's very electable. I've watched and read his interviews- while he might best serve as a VP for a while, the guy has the charisma and brains to eventually get this done.


Also this.
 
2019-03-14 05:06:38 AM  
I will vote for any Democrat.  Biden/Beto.  Harris/Beto.  Beto/Buttigieg.  Warren/Harris.  Buttigieg/Yang.

Heck, i'd even vote for Bernie, even though i don't care much for him.
 
2019-03-14 05:14:44 AM  
while I think Warren or Harris would be the better choice, if/when Beto wins the nomination I'll support his campaign 150%.
 
2019-03-14 05:15:03 AM  

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if you need him he'll be in his lab

/seriousface: and hopefully the white house at some point.
 
2019-03-14 05:24:37 AM  

Weaver95: while I think Warren or Harris would be the better choice, if/when Beto wins the nomination I'll support his campaign 150%.


He's young, but he inspires confidence. Just like Obama did. And he's smart, meaning he.may actually read his briefings. I'm still on the fence but were he to get the nod I'd be all over it .
 
2019-03-14 05:26:24 AM  

dickfreckle: Weaver95: while I think Warren or Harris would be the better choice, if/when Beto wins the nomination I'll support his campaign 150%.

He's young, but he inspires confidence. Just like Obama did. And he's smart, meaning he.may actually read his briefings. I'm still on the fence but were he to get the nod I'd be all over it .


well, the way I see it we're way early yet on who's gonna get the Democratic nod for President.  I very much look forward to these discussions tho.  whomever wins, gets my vote.  if that's Beto, then he's got my support all the way.
 
2019-03-14 06:02:15 AM  

I created this alt just for this thread: Also, any time anyone pulls the "HURR DURR, THEY GOTS NO EXPERIENCE" idiocy about any candidate, they need to take a long hard look at who our current president is, and then shut the fark up because it's pretty farking obvious that experience in related or applicable matters is not a motherfarking factor anymore unless you're pulling some purity test bs.


"Presidential nominees should have experience"

"But ... Donald Trump didn't have experience."

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2019-03-14 06:02:31 AM  

I created this alt just for this thread: BretMavrik: Benevolent Misanthrope: OFFS.  When your party's last nominee was hated for the idea that it was "her turn" (which she never, ever said), you thought it was the smart thing to say, right out of the gate, "Man, I was f*cking BORN for this!"

Hay. Seuss. Kreist.

This. Do something (like win your home state) first. Win the governorship or something, then hit the next cycle.

/Even if she never said it out loud, it was definitely front and center in her mind.
//I still think 2020 will be like 1992... "look at all these heavy-hitters... and who's this dude from Arkansas?"
///Any of them would still be orders of magnitude better than Dolt45.

And you know this how?

Also, any time anyone pulls the "HURR DURR, THEY GOTS NO EXPERIENCE" idiocy about any candidate, they need to take a long hard look at who our current president is, and then shut the fark up because it's pretty farking obvious that experience in related or applicable matters is not a motherfarking factor anymore unless you're pulling some purity test bs.


Yeah, after all if the other side does it it's clearly OK.
 
2019-03-14 06:07:32 AM  

BretMavrik: Benevolent Misanthrope: OFFS.  When your party's last nominee was hated for the idea that it was "her turn" (which she never, ever said), you thought it was the smart thing to say, right out of the gate, "Man, I was f*cking BORN for this!"

Hay. Seuss. Kreist.

This. Do something (like win your home state) first. Win the governorship or something, then hit the next cycle.

/Even if she never said it out loud, it was definitely front and center in her mind.
//I still think 2020 will be like 1992... "look at all these heavy-hitters... and who's this dude from Arkansas?"
///Any of them would still be orders of magnitude better than Dolt45.


Your line of thinking is wrong. Beto came pretty close to beating Cruz in TEXAS. If you look at pretty much any of the large metropolitan cities in Texas (Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas), he not only won those cities decisively, but was able to do two things that the Democratic Party is in dire need of.

The first being motivate voters with his charisma and authenticity (there have been parallels to Obama in this regard, and having seen him speak and interact with the people, that is a pretty close comparison). For the first time you have voters NOT in a super Blue state who were excited and turned out in droves to vote. The mix of voters was very diverse in terms of age, gender, and race.

The second major thing that Beto brings is the fact that he is not a Party Puppet. This has allowed him to pick up a lot of the moderate vote and flip people. That is pretty hard to do, and a damn near miracle in Texas. His appeal and policy stances are progressive enough without being batshiat stupid. This does not mean he is a weak Democrat, but that he is in fact capable of mending this massive divide in our country.

In my opinion, Beto is the best shot the Democratic Party has of winning the presidency outside of perhaps Biden. In all honesty, I would love to see a Beto/Biden ticket (or even Biden/Beto). Mark my words, any other candidates will fail miserably.
 
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