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(The Hill)   GOP: "We don't really want to challenge Dear Leader, but here are some bills to make sure Dems can't declare climate change or guns as national emerg--" Pelosi: "C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER"   (thehill.com) divider line
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2019-03-13 12:16:09 PM  
Now watch McConnell whine about the House not even bringing it up for a vote.

You just know he will
 
2019-03-13 12:16:12 PM  
Well done, Nancy.
 
2019-03-13 12:17:01 PM  
Golly, it's almost like a senior statesman knows how to do her job.
 
2019-03-13 12:17:28 PM  
You want to have your cake and eat it too? Eat shiat instead.
 
2019-03-13 12:17:58 PM  
This is a good move.
 
2019-03-13 12:18:17 PM  
Good.
 
MFK
2019-03-13 12:19:03 PM  
"Republican Senators are proposing new legislation to allow the President to violate the Constitution just this once in order to give themselves cover," Pelosi said in a statement. "The House will not take up this legislation to give President Trump a pass."

Good on Nancy for not only blocking this piece of shiat but also calling them out on their motivations.
 
2019-03-13 12:19:10 PM  
I mean....did the Senate actually believe Nancy would bring it up for a vote?
 
2019-03-13 12:20:56 PM  

raerae1980: I mean....did the Senate actually believe Nancy would bring it up for a vote?


"But... you're supposed to do what we want!"
 
2019-03-13 12:21:58 PM  
The Republican Party motto:
It's legal when we do it!
 
2019-03-13 12:22:31 PM  

raerae1980: I mean....did the Senate actually believe Nancy would bring it up for a vote?


IOKIYAR is real legislation to some of them and they're confused why democrats keep thwarting the law.
 
2019-03-13 12:22:50 PM  
Damn, she's brutal.  I wanted new leadership at the beginning of the term, but I have to admit, she's killing it.
 
2019-03-13 12:23:08 PM  
I like the cut of her jib.  The GOP should not be allowed to weasel out of this vote.

/sorry to actual weasels
 
2019-03-13 12:23:25 PM  
The only way a bill to reform emergencies should pass is if it includes with in it the cancellation of Trump's current bullshiat emergency declaration. Republicans are just a bunch of dumb animals and they'll only understand they're doing wrong if we rub their noses on their crap and beat them with a newspaper. The Dems decided not to investigate GWBs blunders over and over so that we could move on and govern and the GOP spent the entire Obama admin investigating Benghazi and emails. The only way they'll learn is if the Dems investigate every Trump scandal (which are real ones unlike Benghazi) and then move on to every scandal of his complicit trash. They also need to play the same kind of hardball with judge nominations, since the GOP stole the Merick Garland seat, and if the GOP wants to open the door on emergency powers, then the next Dem president needs to promise to rule via emergency powers... not just as a hypothetical: It has to be a farking promise that this is how we'll do things from now on if the GOP opens that door. If this causes a constitutional crisis that breaks the country, so be it. It's best to rip off the band aid that sit back as the republican scum pulls it away slowly.
 
2019-03-13 12:27:47 PM  

raerae1980: I mean....did the Senate actually believe Nancy would bring it up for a vote?


No. They're just trying to generate material for Fox and AM radio to fill the airwaves with this week to give them cover for the EO
 
2019-03-13 12:27:48 PM  

wood0366: Golly, it's almost like a senior statesman knows how to do her job.


"This is more gridlock caused by the Democrats to protect this nation from potential illegal powergrabs by the executive branch" - Some GOP Talkpoint that'll come out

And someone will believe it
 
2019-03-13 12:30:06 PM  
Vice President Pence discussed a potential offer with GOP senators on Tuesday of Trump signing legislation to curb his national emergency powers if senators defeat the resolution of disapproval to spare him the first veto of his presidency. But so far Trump has made no such pledges.

AHAHAHA!

Stepford Pence: "Guys just let Trumpy the Hutt have his wall, then he totally pinky swears he'll never use National Emergency legislation again."

The President: "I made no such promise, bring me another deep-fried immigrant child, with extra ketchup!"
 
2019-03-13 12:31:12 PM  

raerae1980: I mean....did the Senate actually believe Nancy would bring it up for a vote?


It is all about messaging now instead of actually passing laws.  The house passes something, the Senate passes something else. And nothing else gets done except to point fingers
 
2019-03-13 12:32:01 PM  

Aar1012: wood0366: Golly, it's almost like a senior statesman knows how to do her job.

"This is more gridlock caused by the Democrats to protect this nation from potential illegal powergrabs by the executive branch" - Some GOP Talkpoint that'll come out

And someone will believe it


Or "Look, we don't know what the orange shiatgibbon is gonna declare as the next emergency and the Left is just fine letting him do it.  Lord knows we won't try to stop him using the mechanics already in place."
 
2019-03-13 12:34:08 PM  
Has the Senate voted on the resolution to vote down the emergency yet?  Weren't they supposed to vote on that soon?
 
2019-03-13 12:34:55 PM  
I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?
 
2019-03-13 12:35:51 PM  
Good. We needed someone willing to biatchslap these assholes when they try their assholery.
 
2019-03-13 12:36:00 PM  
How long before Trump criticizes the Democrats for this?

"The corrupt democrats won't check my emergency powers!"
 
2019-03-13 12:36:50 PM  
If the state of the planet wasn't at stake, it would be really interesting to watch how the Pelosi / McConnell thing plays out.  Say what you want about him (he's a soulless, traitorous, sack if shiat for instance), but he's really good at politics.  As is Nancy.
 
2019-03-13 12:36:52 PM  

Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?


Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.
 
2019-03-13 12:37:03 PM  
I would bet good money that trump was outraged when he found out he couldn't fire Pelosi.
 
2019-03-13 12:38:59 PM  
While I agree that the process for qualifying what does or does not constitute a "national emergency" desperately needs an overhaul, I'm glad Pelosi's not allowing the GOP treasonweasels to play the "it'll only be this one time, we swear!" game.

Make them either go on record as standing by the emergency declaration, or force them to go on record as being against Dear Leader.  Both options are bad for them...which is good for the rest of us.
 
2019-03-13 12:39:00 PM  

LL316: If the state of the planet wasn't at stake, it would be really interesting to watch how the Pelosi / McConnell thing plays out.  Say what you want about him (he's a soulless, traitorous, sack if shiat for instance), but he's really good at politics.  As is Nancy.


There is a difference though.

One (McConnell) is trying to protect his out of control POTUS.

The other isn't.

McConnell has done the same farkin' think as what Pelosi is right now, so any whining from him will be met with laughter. Loud laughter.
 
2019-03-13 12:39:06 PM  

Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?


Why can't the Senate close the door for Trump,?
 
2019-03-13 12:39:48 PM  

Farkin_Crazy: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.


Sorry, how about "undermines the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse, a power exclusively reserved by the text of the Constitution to the first branch of government, the Legislative branch, a branch co-equal to the Executive. "
 
2019-03-13 12:41:27 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Why can't the Senate close the door for Trump,?


They are.
 
2019-03-13 12:41:48 PM  

Saiga410: cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Why can't the Senate close the door for Trump,?

They are.


Uh, no they specifically are not
 
2019-03-13 12:42:35 PM  
Way to go Nancy, we knew those bastards were going to try this
 
2019-03-13 12:42:57 PM  

flypusher713: I like the cut of her jib.  The GOP should not be allowed to weasel out of this vote.

/sorry to actual weasels


Apology accepted
 
2019-03-13 12:43:05 PM  

freetomato: I would bet good money that trump was outraged when he found out he couldn't get someone to fire Pelosi.


Fixed that for you.
 
2019-03-13 12:44:07 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Why can't the Senate close the door for Trump,?

They are.

Uh, no they specifically are not


They are getting blocked by the house.
 
2019-03-13 12:46:19 PM  

raerae1980: I mean....did the Senate actually believe Nancy would bring it up for a vote?


The senate has proven itself to be incapable of actual governance, preferring instead to simply play political games and point fingers. It is all they have done since the days of Newt Gingrich.
 
2019-03-13 12:46:40 PM  
Vice President Pence discussed a potential offer with GOP senators on Tuesday of Trump signing legislation to curb his national emergency powers if senators defeat the resolution of disapproval to spare him the first veto of his presidency. But so far Trump has made no such pledges.

Motherfarker, nothing of what you just said makes sense, and we're all stupider for having heard it.

If Trump is willing to sign legislation curbing his national emergency powers and doesn't want to use his first veto, then he could just simply sign the legislation Pelosi started with aims to cub his national emergency powers instead of saying he would veto it.
 
2019-03-13 12:47:03 PM  

Saiga410: cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Why can't the Senate close the door for Trump,?

They are.

Uh, no they specifically are not

They are getting blocked by the house.


No, they're not, the bill that the Senate is considering specifically does NOT apply to Trumps existing emergency declaration with regard to the law. They're not closing the door on Trump, they're closing the door on the next President.
 
2019-03-13 12:47:31 PM  
Oops. It's terrible when you have to lie in a bed you've already made...

Yertle, get used to it.

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2019-03-13 12:49:15 PM  

Saiga410: Farkin_Crazy: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.

Sorry, how about "undermines the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse, a power exclusively reserved by the text of the Constitution to the first branch of government, the Legislative branch, a branch co-equal to the Executive. "


Gee, you make it almost sound like something that should be stopped now, not just at some unspecified time in the future.
 
2019-03-13 12:49:19 PM  

Saiga410: Farkin_Crazy: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.

Sorry, how about "undermines the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse, a power exclusively reserved by the text of the Constitution to the first branch of government, the Legislative branch, a branch co-equal to the Executive. "


I can't say I have even ever seen that argument made.

What IS being argued is, there is no emergency. And that diverting allocated funds away from their original use to use for folly is unconstitutional. Guess who the POTUS was that signed that into law. Go ahead, hazard a guess.
 
2019-03-13 12:51:21 PM  

LL316: If the state of the planet wasn't at stake, it would be really interesting to watch how the Pelosi / McConnell thing plays out.  Say what you want about him (he's a soulless, traitorous, sack if shiat for instance), but he's really good at politics.As is Nancy.


No, he's not. He's really good at cheating, but that's all. He's never had one success that was due to anything but twisting the rules in his favor or flat out ignoring them.

Mitch McConnell is the Grave Digger of Democracy.
 
2019-03-13 12:53:01 PM  
This was to be expected. What we need to move forward is for the leadership (assuming the house is the only rational place here) to state "Fark putting party first, we are here to serve at the leisure of our constituents, and if anyone is not doing this, then your voters need to Get You the Fark Out (GYTFO)  of DC and back into the unemployment line."

/ I'd give Nancy the Time Person of the Year award if she said that to a national audience.
//It would rock the voters back on their heels, and probably put her in the lead for presidential candidate for both parties.
/// I'm not expecting leadership from anyone up there, so this statemanship gaming is the best we can hope for.
 
2019-03-13 12:53:41 PM  

Catlenfell: Damn, she's brutal.  I wanted new leadership at the beginning of the term, but I have to admit, she's killing it.


Which is why I'm getting VERY tired of the whining (still) about her.
 
2019-03-13 12:56:43 PM  

Karac: Saiga410: Farkin_Crazy: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.

Sorry, how about "undermines the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse, a power exclusively reserved by the text of the Constitution to the first branch of government, the Legislative branch, a branch co-equal to the Executive. "

Gee, you make it almost sound like something that should be stopped now, not just at some unspecified time in the future.


A permanent correction now.  Yes that is what this bill would do.
 
2019-03-13 12:57:13 PM  

Karac: Vice President Pence discussed a potential offer with GOP senators on Tuesday of Trump signing legislation to curb his national emergency powers if senators defeat the resolution of disapproval to spare him the first veto of his presidency. But so far Trump has made no such pledges.

Motherfarker, nothing of what you just said makes sense, and we're all stupider for having heard it.

If Trump is willing to sign legislation curbing his national emergency powers and doesn't want to use his first veto, then he could just simply sign the legislation Pelosi started with aims to cub his national emergency powers instead of saying he would veto it.


It's no longer a matter of a policy that Trump promised in his  campaign. It has become his Alamo.
 
2019-03-13 12:57:27 PM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: Catlenfell: Damn, she's brutal.  I wanted new leadership at the beginning of the term, but I have to admit, she's killing it.

Which is why I'm getting VERY tired of the whining (still) about her.


I will stand up, proudly, and say I supported her from day 1. Openly.

And that her challengers, and her challengers supporters, had no idea how to handle what was going to come their way with Trump at the helm, and I had far more faith in Pelosi than them.

Tim Ryan and his backers can straight go fark themselves.
 
2019-03-13 12:57:57 PM  

Saiga410: Karac: Saiga410: Farkin_Crazy: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.

Sorry, how about "undermines the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse, a power exclusively reserved by the text of the Constitution to the first branch of government, the Legislative branch, a branch co-equal to the Executive. "

Gee, you make it almost sound like something that should be stopped now, not just at some unspecified time in the future.

A permanent correction now.  Yes that is what this bill would do.


No, not now.
 
2019-03-13 12:59:56 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Saiga410: Karac: Saiga410: Farkin_Crazy: Saiga410: I thought the emergency declaration law was an unconstitutional violation of the separation of power.  So let's keep that door open?

Who ever said it was unconstitutional? That is a new claim to me.

Sorry, how about "undermines the separation of powers and Congress's power of the purse, a power exclusively reserved by the text of the Constitution to the first branch of government, the Legislative branch, a branch co-equal to the Executive. "

Gee, you make it almost sound like something that should be stopped now, not just at some unspecified time in the future.

A permanent correction now.  Yes that is what this bill would do.

No, not now.


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