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2019-03-13 10:58:16 AM  
How big is that school?
 
2019-03-13 10:58:33 AM  
O_O  That's a whole lot of dead.
 
2019-03-13 10:58:57 AM  
Taut pairs?
 
2019-03-13 10:59:15 AM  
Shoot up a school then commit suicide? Not sure what these farkers goal was but at least they are out of the gene pool. I hope it hurt on the way out.
 
2019-03-13 10:59:33 AM  
So some Americans were vacationing in Brazil?
 
2019-03-13 10:59:58 AM  
It's nice to see Americans winning on exports in this trade war
 
2019-03-13 11:01:29 AM  
Now imagine what could have happened if they had knives in Brazil.
 
2019-03-13 11:03:37 AM  
How many Brazilians?
 
2019-03-13 11:04:14 AM  
"While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon."
"While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon."
"While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon."

/runs
//runs
///runs
 
2019-03-13 11:04:33 AM  
How many New Jersey's is that?
 
2019-03-13 11:05:33 AM  
Was hoping someone would submit this as "gunman whacks Brazilians"...
 
2019-03-13 11:06:16 AM  
Cultural appropriation at its worst.

/ that's our thing
 
2019-03-13 11:06:24 AM  
The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.
 
2019-03-13 11:06:26 AM  

MBooda: Was hoping someone would submit this as "gunman whacks Brazilians"...


Bruh
 
2019-03-13 11:06:45 AM  

Soulless Carbon Rod: Now imagine what could have happened if they had knives in Brazil.


Their normal everyday type violence.
 
2019-03-13 11:06:56 AM  
Knowing Brazil i'm surprised there weren't any off duty police nearby.
 
2019-03-13 11:09:53 AM  
I bet the new Brazilian President would want to blame Goth kids or Satanic conspiracy theories for this one. Would help his fear mongering campaign of terror.
 
2019-03-13 11:10:00 AM  

Dimensio: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.


Did you ever know that you're my hero?
 
2019-03-13 11:10:32 AM  
Reuters weird ad accompanies story
 
2019-03-13 11:10:41 AM  
Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.
 
2019-03-13 11:14:46 AM  

MyNameIsMofuga: Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.


Taurus, a gun manufacturer, is based in Brazil.
 
2019-03-13 11:15:08 AM  

Dimensio: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.


Brazil? I don't think they have that there.
 
2019-03-13 11:17:08 AM  
While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon.

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2019-03-13 11:17:32 AM  

Dimensio: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.


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2019-03-13 11:18:03 AM  
why didn't they just suck each other's gun and save everyone some heartache
 
2019-03-13 11:18:54 AM  
And that's terrible.
 
2019-03-13 11:19:49 AM  

MyNameIsMofuga: Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.


Read your history. Cabral introduced firearms into Brazil in 1500, 65 years before Menéndez de Avilés introduced them into the North American continent.
 
2019-03-13 11:22:11 AM  
They got waxed.
 
2019-03-13 11:23:54 AM  
lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.
 
2019-03-13 11:28:40 AM  
As a white American male, I find this to be an atrocious example of Brazilians trying appropriate our culture.

These young ethnic kids don't realize the cultural significance of mass shooting. Going postal is basically white American male version of the Indian headdress (as in neither are appropriate for a rock concert).
 
2019-03-13 11:30:49 AM  

Dimensio: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.



At first I thought it was that other guy.
 
2019-03-13 11:31:08 AM  

Destructor: MyNameIsMofuga: Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.

Taurus, a gun manufacturer, is based in Brazil.


Bull.
 
2019-03-13 11:31:21 AM  

Dimensio: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.


And everything I would like to be?
 
2019-03-13 11:31:46 AM  

adj_m: lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.


Yea, don't use places where gun control fails as examples of gun control failing.  It doesn't support my agenda so it doesn't count.
 
2019-03-13 11:31:48 AM  

tjsands1118: As a white American male, I find this to be an atrocious example of Brazilians trying appropriate our culture.

These young ethnic kids don't realize the cultural significance of mass shooting. Going postal is basically white American male version of the Indian headdress (as in neither are appropriate for a rock concert).


Postal was such a fun game to play, especially level <whatever> when it starts with a marching band and you have molotov cocktails.
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2019-03-13 11:31:49 AM  

Destructor: MyNameIsMofuga: Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.

Taurus, a gun manufacturer, is based in Brazil.


I was referring to school shootings.  It was a joke.  Maybe not a good one.  I'll go.
 
2019-03-13 11:32:15 AM  
Nuts!
 
2019-03-13 11:34:28 AM  

This text is now purple: Destructor: MyNameIsMofuga: Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.

Taurus, a gun manufacturer, is based in Brazil.

Bull.


Taurus is indeed a Brazilian company, as is Imbel, which builds a lot of military weapons, like copies of the FN FAL and others.
 
2019-03-13 11:36:14 AM  

MythDragon: Dimensio: The 2nd amendment is a curse upon this country.

Brazil? I don't think they have that there.


The Brazilian constitution has had dozens of amendments, but they're not listed the same way that the U.S. does.
 
2019-03-13 11:38:08 AM  

Resident Muslim: "While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon."
"While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon."
"While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil, it is not difficult to illegally purchase a weapon."

/runs
//runs
///runs


Sounds like the gun laws aren't really that strict.
 
2019-03-13 11:38:19 AM  
"While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil".

Not true.  Every Brazilian adult is allowed to have up to 4 guns at home.  First you need to pass a psychological test, then take a certain number of hours of firearms training, then you may purchase up to 2 handguns, and 2 long guns.  The hand guns are limited to .38 caliber, and I can't remember what's caliber restriction on the long guns.  To get a CC permit, then it gets a lot more strict.  And for larger calibers, you must be with the police or military.

Many of my friends in Rio have legal guns at home.  A couple have CC permits.  And my friend who works as a prison guard at the infamous Bangu 1 prison is always complaining that the law only allows him to carry a .38 since he's not a cop.
 
2019-03-13 11:41:45 AM  

Callous: adj_m: lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.

Yea, don't use places where gun control fails as examples of gun control failing.  It doesn't support my agenda so it doesn't count.


It's Brazil. My point that you so clumsily sidestepped was that you can't cherry pick it as an example of why gun control would fail, while ignoring all the countries where it works. Then again you'd probably prefer it if the US was more like Brazil, and with Russia and half of your own population farkin up your country you are well on your way. :)
 
2019-03-13 11:41:47 AM  

adj_m: lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.


You're right, it's not like it's happening in Europe...oh wait... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/w​o​rldviews/wp/2018/04/18/for-europes-cri​minals-and-terrorists-buying-a-gun-is-​getting-easier/?noredirect=on&utm_term​=.6b70ed2a5874
(open link in new private window to avoid paywall)

https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-a​r​eas-and-trends/crime-areas/illicit-fir​earms-trafficking

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44053904

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gun-use-​s​urges-in-europe-where-firearms-are-rar​e-11546857000

and it happens in australia...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-austra​l​ia-44105129
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/default​/​files/2016/10/illicit_firearms_in_aust​ralia_0.pdf?v=1477016769
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/natio​n​al/2015/11/10/australias-secret-gun-pr​oblem-exposed/


So, yeah, totally not on point to point to nations with struct gun controls where it fails as evidence that gun control doesn't work. Because it's not like illegal guns are a thing in other nations, right?
 
2019-03-13 11:43:37 AM  

Joe Peanut: "While gun laws are extremely strict in Brazil".

Not true.  Every Brazilian adult is allowed to have up to 4 guns at home.  First you need to pass a psychological test, then take a certain number of hours of firearms training, then you may purchase up to 2 handguns, and 2 long guns.  The hand guns are limited to .38 caliber, and I can't remember what's caliber restriction on the long guns.  To get a CC permit, then it gets a lot more strict.  And for larger calibers, you must be with the police or military.

Many of my friends in Rio have legal guns at home.  A couple have CC permits.  And my friend who works as a prison guard at the infamous Bangu 1 prison is always complaining that the law only allows him to carry a .38 since he's not a cop.


You're right, that's not strict at all. What were we thinking?
 
2019-03-13 11:45:33 AM  

Kit Fister: This text is now purple: Destructor: MyNameIsMofuga: Trump did say he was going to do more to increase the exportation of American products.

Taurus, a gun manufacturer, is based in Brazil.

Bull.

Taurus is indeed a Brazilian company, as is Imbel, which builds a lot of military weapons, like copies of the FN FAL and others.


Taurus means bull. =)
 
2019-03-13 11:47:17 AM  

Kit Fister: adj_m: lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.

You're right, it's not like it's happening in Europe...oh wait... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wo​rldviews/wp/2018/04/18/for-europes-cri​minals-and-terrorists-buying-a-gun-is-​getting-easier/?noredirect=on&utm_term​=.6b70ed2a5874
(open link in new private window to avoid paywall)

https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-ar​eas-and-trends/crime-areas/illicit-fir​earms-trafficking

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44053904

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gun-use-s​urges-in-europe-where-firearms-are-rar​e-11546857000

and it happens in australia...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-austral​ia-44105129
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/default/​files/2016/10/illicit_firearms_in_aust​ralia_0.pdf?v=1477016769
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nation​al/2015/11/10/australias-secret-gun-pr​oblem-exposed/


So, yeah, totally not on point to point to nations with struct gun controls where it fails as evidence that gun control doesn't work. Because it's not like illegal guns are a thing in other nations, right?


Well you've got links so I guess I'll pack it up here, well played linking those links. Weird that they don't have anywhere near the same ballpark of shootings and gun related crime though eh?
 
2019-03-13 11:47:58 AM  

adj_m: Callous: adj_m: lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.

Yea, don't use places where gun control fails as examples of gun control failing.  It doesn't support my agenda so it doesn't count.

It's Brazil. My point that you so clumsily sidestepped was that you can't cherry pick it as an example of why gun control would fail, while ignoring all the countries where it works. Then again you'd probably prefer it if the US was more like Brazil, and with Russia and half of your own population farkin up your country you are well on your way. :)


Except that, as I provided links for, gun control in those other nations doesn't work all that well, either. The difference is that outside of terrorist attacks, they haven't gotten to the point of a major event like a school shooting yet, so it's not information which makes the news.  Since it's not on the news, no one, like you, bothers to do the boring research into the statistics and facts about how well they work or don't work. You just make the assumption that the laws are working because not much makes it into the news that gets to you.

Sorry to break it to you, man, but the black market for guns is alive and well all over the place, except maybe Japan. People who buy those guns just aren't in places where they're culturally inclined to go gunning people down all the time like we are, that's all.
 
2019-03-13 11:48:07 AM  
City of God?
 
2019-03-13 11:50:32 AM  

adj_m: Callous: adj_m: lol yeah, let's use brazil as an example of why gun control wouldn't work. I mean if it can happen in that shining bastion of justice it will happen everywhere amiright. Hey don't look at all the other countries, eyes forward and hands over the sheets now.

Yea, don't use places where gun control fails as examples of gun control failing.  It doesn't support my agenda so it doesn't count.

It's Brazil. My point that you so clumsily sidestepped was that you can't cherry pick it as an example of why gun control would fail, while ignoring all the countries where it works. Then again you'd probably prefer it if the US was more like Brazil, and with Russia and half of your own population farkin up your country you are well on your way. :)


I can "cherry pick it" as easily as you dismissed it.
 
2019-03-13 11:51:50 AM  

adj_m: Well you've got links so I guess I'll pack it up here, well played linking those links. Weird that they don't have anywhere near the same ballpark of shootings and gun related crime though eh?


Which has absolutely nothing to do with the rate of firearm ownership, or the level of illegal gun sales.

There can be a lot of black market guns going into a country while there isn't a lot of outright "gun crime", as the willingness to commit a crime and use a gun to do it, as well as the type of crimes, has absolutely nothing to do with whether the person has a gun, but rather whether the person was in a position to commit the crime in the first place.

Amazingly enough, if you're culturally predisposed towards not behaving violently or committing violent crimes, just having a gun does not automatically mean you're going to run out and use the gun to commit a violent crime.

Nice logical fallacy, man.
 
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