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2019-03-13 12:41:08 AM  
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2019-03-13 12:44:34 AM  
Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.
 
2019-03-13 12:57:23 AM  
Le'Veon, Le'Veon likes his money
He makes a lot they say
Spends his days counting
In a garage by the motorway
 
2019-03-13 07:12:17 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.


But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.
 
2019-03-13 07:23:51 AM  
Ahh, no Todd Gurley contract for you haha.
 
2019-03-13 07:37:36 AM  

weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.


Bell played it poorly. He left a ton of money on the table and many teams who otherwise would want him instead wanted nothing to do with him.

In contrast AB got everything he wanted. He showed that non-QBs have leverage. He showed up and did his job on game days, pointed out a hostile work environment and teams wanted him. He also screwed his old team because they had to trade him which depressed his trade value, making a new contract possible with his new team. Not the cleanest way but it got the job done better than sitting out a year.
 
2019-03-13 07:44:47 AM  

weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.


Yeah good for him, he ruined his teammates season, missed out on 14 million last year, and got less money per then he'd have gotten a signing the deal the Steelers offered him. Nice work Leveon, I'm sure his rap album is going to top the charts too.
 
2019-03-13 07:45:40 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.

Bell played it poorly. He left a ton of money on the table and many teams who otherwise would want him instead wanted nothing to do with him.

In contrast AB got everything he wanted. He showed that non-QBs have leverage. He showed up and did his job on game days, pointed out a hostile work environment and teams wanted him. He also screwed his old team because they had to trade him which depressed his trade value, making a new contract possible with his new team. Not the cleanest way but it got the job done better than sitting out a year.


They really didn't have to trade him. He could have pouted on the sidelines.
 
2019-03-13 07:55:42 AM  
Sitting out a year hasn't traditionally worked out very well for running backs with regard to performance and injury. Add to this that 27-28 is the age at which running backs hit their tipping point and start to decline (he's now 27.) This is a bad deal for the Jets... which of course isn't a surprise.
 
2019-03-13 07:58:45 AM  

js34603: weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.

Yeah good for him, he ruined his teammates season, missed out on 14 million last year, and got less money per then he'd have gotten a signing the deal the Steelers offered him. Nice work Leveon, I'm sure his rap album is going to top the charts too.


Only the first 2 years of the Steelers' offer was guaranteed.  Bell (or his agent) knew that deal was a $30 million deal, not $70.

It didnt work out in Bells favor, but so what?  I sure dont feel like players owe teams sh*t.  Loyalty is not a meaningful term from teams so why should players be obligated?
 
2019-03-13 08:11:27 AM  

js34603: AdmirableSnackbar: weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.

Bell played it poorly. He left a ton of money on the table and many teams who otherwise would want him instead wanted nothing to do with him.

In contrast AB got everything he wanted. He showed that non-QBs have leverage. He showed up and did his job on game days, pointed out a hostile work environment and teams wanted him. He also screwed his old team because they had to trade him which depressed his trade value, making a new contract possible with his new team. Not the cleanest way but it got the job done better than sitting out a year.

They really didn't have to trade him. He could have pouted on the sidelines.


They did trade him. He won. They didn't have to, they didn't really want to, but he made them do it.

One might say he Roethlisbergered them.
 
2019-03-13 08:33:16 AM  
I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year
 
2019-03-13 08:57:21 AM  
The Jets, where players go to die.
 
2019-03-13 09:03:17 AM  
Lose out on $14 million, then sign with the Jets. Sorry, Bell, you messed this up. RBs are important in the NFL, but they have really short shelf lives.
 
2019-03-13 09:10:37 AM  
All that and he takes $13M a year?  Would have made more on the tag?
Guess he didn't have teams beating down his door like he hoped.
 
2019-03-13 09:20:29 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year


I agree-- I make this argument a lot, actually. I don't quite recall the specifics, but a few years back I compared two playoff teams that were going head-to-head. One had a highly paid star RB, the other team had three decent RBs who split time fairly evenly and collectively made less than the one star player. Over the season, the total  yards from scrimmage and TDs for those three players was greater than the stats of the star player. And in the playoffs, they were much more rested. I understand this is just a single example to support my point, and there are probably other situations in which the star RB outperforms a RBBC. But no one is signing lower tier RBs to 4-5 year deals with any guaranteed money. I think you touched on one of the missing components, which is where the extra money is spent.
 
2019-03-13 09:31:46 AM  

weddingsinger: js34603: weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.

Yeah good for him, he ruined his teammates season, missed out on 14 million last year, and got less money per then he'd have gotten a signing the deal the Steelers offered him. Nice work Leveon, I'm sure his rap album is going to top the charts too.

Only the first 2 years of the Steelers' offer was guaranteed.  Bell (or his agent) knew that deal was a $30 million deal, not $70.

It didnt work out in Bells favor, but so what?  I sure dont feel like players owe teams sh*t.  Loyalty is not a meaningful term from teams so why should players be obligated?


It's not a question of obligation. Pittsburgh made their business decision, he made his.

That said, as a fan it's really hard not to call him a dummy. He miscalculated, and he lost BIG, whereas Pittsburgh won big with Conner and Samuels. There's no implication of loyalty involved in any of this.
 
2019-03-13 09:35:58 AM  

abhorrent1: All that and he takes $13M a year?  Would have made more on the tag?
Guess he didn't have teams beating down his door like he hoped.


His complaint was that the Steelers were going to trade or cut him this year anyway, and that the Steelers were only using the tag to avoid giving him a longer contract. Supposedly, he was saving his body. If he'd had a severe injury, his career would have been over.

I think he's correct with what the Steelers were trying to pull, but missing out on $14 million is a pretty insane bet.
 
2019-03-13 09:48:16 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year


Did you miss the Osemele signing?  The jets also have the third pick.  Still need to make some more moves. Week at center, tight end, WR, and corner.  The Jets are making progress, and I wouldn't be surprised if you see a 2020 season where the Jets and Browns are in the playoffs and the pats are lucky to be 6 and 10
 
2019-03-13 09:48:37 AM  

Groupon boob job: Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year

I agree-- I make this argument a lot, actually. I don't quite recall the specifics, but a few years back I compared two playoff teams that were going head-to-head. One had a highly paid star RB, the other team had three decent RBs who split time fairly evenly and collectively made less than the one star player. Over the season, the total  yards from scrimmage and TDs for those three players was greater than the stats of the star player. And in the playoffs, they were much more rested. I understand this is just a single example to support my point, and there are probably other situations in which the star RB outperforms a RBBC. But no one is signing lower tier RBs to 4-5 year deals with any guaranteed money. I think you touched on one of the missing components, which is where the extra money is spent.


There is still a place in the NFL for an RB that can take the lion's share of your offensive snaps at the position, but I think examples like yours shows that percentage could be as low as 40-50%, maybe higher if the RB is also an effective receiver or pass protector. There is definitely a line to straddle between fresh legs and getting into a rhythm, not just for the RB, but for the whole offense.

I think the RB position is becoming a lot more like pitchers, where teams realize they can use situational backs, like the cannonball FB to extend a series and hammer on a DL, the shifty pass catcher to burn an overzealous pass rush, or your traditional bell cow that provides your team with balance.
 
2019-03-13 09:54:36 AM  
Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.
 
2019-03-13 09:57:18 AM  
Don't really get the signing.

I could see a team like the Eagles or Green Bay who has a lot of pieces in place offensively and wants a stud RB to push their offense into elite territory.

But the Jets are still struggling for relevance.  They have a young QB who finished the last 4 games well, but overall was pretty meh last year, so he's still kind of a question mark.

Sort of the reverse idiocy of the Giants who drafted a RB before getting the next QB, and then trading away the best WR and still having just the old QB.
 
2019-03-13 10:12:44 AM  
Could the Jets still  please take Barr?

Please?
 
2019-03-13 10:13:06 AM  

MugzyBrown: Sort of the reverse idiocy of the Giants who drafted a RB before getting the next QB, and then trading away the best WR and still having just the old QB.


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2019-03-13 10:22:38 AM  

MugzyBrown: Don't really get the signing.

I could see a team like the Eagles or Green Bay who has a lot of pieces in place offensively and wants a stud RB to push their offense into elite territory.

But the Jets are still struggling for relevance.  They have a young QB who finished the last 4 games well, but overall was pretty meh last year, so he's still kind of a question mark.

Sort of the reverse idiocy of the Giants who drafted a RB before getting the next QB, and then trading away the best WR and still having just the old QB.


The Giants foolishness with WR nonwithstanding, having Barkley already on the roster makes it much easier to ease in a new QB this year or next as it takes that pressure off.

The Giants definitely shot themselves in the foot last year by making him their ONLY offensive output, though, so hopefully he isn't either broken down or demanding a Gurley contract by the time they move on from Eli.
 
2019-03-13 10:26:02 AM  
Patriots a wild card team next season.
 
2019-03-13 10:29:54 AM  

mattgsx: The Giants foolishness with WR nonwithstanding, having Barkley already on the roster makes it much easier to ease in a new QB this year or next as it takes that pressure off.

The Giants definitely shot themselves in the foot last year by making him their ONLY offensive output, though, so hopefully he isn't either broken down or demanding a Gurley contract by the time they move on from Eli.


You don't start with the RB. It doesn't make sense since they have the shortest shelf-life.
 
2019-03-13 10:58:32 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year


$13 million does not get you three very good offensive lineman.
 
2019-03-13 11:02:28 AM  

FreeLawyer: Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year

$13 million does not get you three very good offensive lineman.


It'll get you 1 and a rookie backup!
 
2019-03-13 11:17:07 AM  

jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.


Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.
 
2019-03-13 11:17:30 AM  

weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.


Adolf Oliver Nipples: weddingsinger: js34603: weddingsinger: AdmirableSnackbar: Sitting out the year didn't quite turn out the way he expected.

But good for him all the same.  Steelers were never going to resign him so it was going to be one more year of 400 Carrie's that broke the man's body but no semblance of job security (or what passes for it in the NFL)

Non-QB players need a bit more leverage in the NFL.

Yeah good for him, he ruined his teammates season, missed out on 14 million last year, and got less money per then he'd have gotten a signing the deal the Steelers offered him. Nice work Leveon, I'm sure his rap album is going to top the charts too.

Only the first 2 years of the Steelers' offer was guaranteed.  Bell (or his agent) knew that deal was a $30 million deal, not $70.

It didnt work out in Bells favor, but so what?  I sure dont feel like players owe teams sh*t.  Loyalty is not a meaningful term from teams so why should players be obligated?

It's not a question of obligation. Pittsburgh made their business decision, he made his.

That said, as a fan it's really hard not to call him a dummy. He miscalculated, and he lost BIG, whereas Pittsburgh won big with Conner and Samuels.


Would have won bigger (at least a half game more I'd wager) with those two AND Bell, so you can't really call them "winners" in this situation. No one won in this, except maybe the Jets
 
2019-03-13 11:20:21 AM  

TDWCom29: Would have won bigger (at least a half game more I'd wager) with those two AND Bell, so you can't really call them "winners" in this situation. No one won in this, except maybe the Jets


All the Steelers have won is a complete rebuild and a lot of dead cap
 
2019-03-13 11:21:06 AM  

Magnus: jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.

Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.


Do you think a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator are going to use last year's playbook?
 
2019-03-13 11:24:10 AM  

jfivealive: Magnus: jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.

Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.

Do you think a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator are going to use last year's playbook?


I can't imagine The Jets hiring a HC and/or an OC that could spell playbook much less use one given to them.
 
2019-03-13 11:33:21 AM  

MugzyBrown: TDWCom29: Would have won bigger (at least a half game more I'd wager) with those two AND Bell, so you can't really call them "winners" in this situation. No one won in this, except maybe the Jets

All the Steelers have won is a complete rebuild and a lot of dead cap


Yup, they should probably just not even play this season. No need to worry about them at all
 
2019-03-13 11:42:08 AM  

jfivealive: Magnus: jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.

Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.

Do you think a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator are going to use last year's playbook?


It'll probably be hard to find the IHOP napkin at this point.
 
2019-03-13 11:42:38 AM  
It must really suck playing for Tomlin and Ben.
 
2019-03-13 11:47:09 AM  

Magnus: jfivealive: Magnus: jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.

Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.

Do you think a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator are going to use last year's playbook?

I can't imagine The Jets hiring a HC and/or an OC that could spell playbook much less use one given to them.


Adam Gase is a good HC. He wasn't the problem in Miami. I think the Jest are going to surprise this year, much to my chagrin.
 
2019-03-13 11:51:22 AM  

H31N0US: Magnus: jfivealive: Magnus: jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.

Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.

Do you think a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator are going to use last year's playbook?

I can't imagine The Jets hiring a HC and/or an OC that could spell playbook much less use one given to them.

Adam Gase is a good HC. He wasn't the problem in Miami. I think the Jest are going to surprise this year, much to my chagrin.


Surely, you Jets?
 
2019-03-13 12:03:44 PM  

jfivealive: Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year

Did you miss the Osemele signing?  The jets also have the third pick.  Still need to make some more moves. Week at center, tight end, WR, and corner.  The Jets are making progress, and I wouldn't be surprised if you see a 2020 season where the Jets and Browns are in the playoffs and the pats are lucky to be 6 and 10


Meth, not even once.
 
2019-03-13 12:07:28 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen


Probably not the dumbest post I'll see today but it definitely deserves a nomination.
 
2019-03-13 12:20:01 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year


Steelers learned to put big money in their oline (plus a good coach who is now gone) and it paid big dividends.  Sooner or later more and more teams will realize that.  Plenty of A+ qbs and rbs are destryed behind bad olines.

See James conner.  He isnt magically as good as bell.  He has an A+ oline.
 
2019-03-13 12:39:41 PM  
How did Bell lose out with this contract? He could have taken ~18mil to play in 2018 but he chose to sit out the season instead. Now he has a contract with a guaranteed 35mil. Sure, he missed out on 18mil from last season but he almost doubled that by doing so. Plus, his body didn't take on the wear and tear of another season. If he's healthy enough he can earn close to 60mil in total, via incentives, throughout the life of the contract. He may have fallen short of his goals for guaranteed money but, in the end, he's still making out. Well, besides playing for the Jets, obviously.
 
2019-03-13 12:40:41 PM  

jfivealive: Magnus: jfivealive: Not to mention a good running back like Bell, who's also very good at catching the ball, keeps the opponent's defense on their toes.  It really opens the playbook for a team, rather than just using a few situational backs where the play is more predictable.

Well, that's a nice thought:  The Jets having a playbook.

Do you think a new head coach and a new offensive coordinator are going to use last year's playbook?


Of course not, all the pictures have been colored in already.
 
2019-03-13 12:42:00 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Nana's Vibrator: $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen

Probably not the dumbest post I'll see today but it definitely deserves a nomination.


I stand by it.  Pro Bowlers are making $10- $15 mil, but very good offensive linemen are available in the 3-5 mil range.  And thanks for the insult.  We love Steelers fans.
 
2019-03-13 12:44:08 PM  
I am really looking forward to betting against the 11-5 Jets in their Wild Card Game at 8-8 Houston next season...
 
2019-03-13 12:44:43 PM  

Captain Kickass: jfivealive: Nana's Vibrator: I love this.  The Jets offensive line was collectively dead last in the NFL as a unit.  When were the Jets NOT dead last running the ball?  In the open field, when blocking didn't quite matter, where they were top 10.  Bell is going to run into piles of fat guys and eat up cap space.  Sorry Jets fans.  $13 million gets you 3 very good offensive linemen that can open holes that a $1,000,000 running back can run through.

/They were average pass protectors last year

Did you miss the Osemele signing?  The jets also have the third pick.  Still need to make some more moves. Week at center, tight end, WR, and corner.  The Jets are making progress, and I wouldn't be surprised if you see a 2020 season where the Jets and Browns are in the playoffs and the pats are lucky to be 6 and 10

Meth, not even once.


I couldn't argue with Osmele comment.  He's 30, was injured and is expensive, but he's an upgrade.
Also, this week is always important for Cleveland and the Jets and Lions, etc...
Let them believe!
 
2019-03-13 12:50:49 PM  

booztravlr: How did Bell lose out with this contract? He could have taken ~18mil to play in 2018 but he chose to sit out the season instead. Now he has a contract with a guaranteed 35mil. Sure, he missed out on 18mil from last season but he almost doubled that by doing so. Plus, his body didn't take on the wear and tear of another season. If he's healthy enough he can earn close to 60mil in total, via incentives, throughout the life of the contract. He may have fallen short of his goals for guaranteed money but, in the end, he's still making out. Well, besides playing for the Jets, obviously.


https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/le​v​eon-bell-reportedly-turned-down-a-mons​trous-70-million-deal-from-the-steeler​s/

He got roughly $2 million more in guarantees and gave up $14 to do it. You think if he doesn't have even just a halfway decent year he doesn't get the same exact contract or better? I mean unless you think he was absolutely guaranteed to have a career altering injury he lost out on this. He would have had this contract PLUS the $14 million from last season. AB was smart, Bell was not
 
2019-03-13 01:09:56 PM  

MugzyBrown: mattgsx: The Giants foolishness with WR nonwithstanding, having Barkley already on the roster makes it much easier to ease in a new QB this year or next as it takes that pressure off.

The Giants definitely shot themselves in the foot last year by making him their ONLY offensive output, though, so hopefully he isn't either broken down or demanding a Gurley contract by the time they move on from Eli.

You don't start with the RB. It doesn't make sense since they have the shortest shelf-life.


Counterpoint - they're cheaper to extend than QBs or WRs, and a strong running game takes pressure off your QB and helps with TOP to keep your defense fresher.

I'm not saying the Giants aren't stupid with the way they've handled the end of the Eli era. They absolutely needed a QB in the wings at least 1 year ago. But Barkley could prove to be a good stabilizing force if a new QB gets playing time this year, and it makes sense to have strong offensive weapons on cheap contracts if you need the extra room to pick up a FA quarterback or trade for one already on a large contract.
 
2019-03-13 01:16:42 PM  
I'm not sure I get this "Bell didn't win" thing? He didn't lose. He gets 35 million guaranteed. Shreds a knee tomorrow and he's still paid. The franchise tag only guarantees one year. And the Steelers were using him at an insane rate. He just got generationally rich in one go, something the Steelers contract was never going to do...
 
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